The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 10:36 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:31 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:22 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:19 am 7% odds that we randomly hit all town on that first team. Not great.
Yikes 7%? Fortunately we didn't rush into things.
Thing is, based on the requirements for trial two and four, there's a 7% chance that we've already won the game, right? Shouldn't we try it out instead of counting on DP?

7% odds are "Not Great".

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 10:39 am**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:29 am [VOTE: disapprove] aubergine

What's more suspicious?

a) Trying to get a feel for who people nominate
b) Calling someone suspicious for reasons you can't adequately explain and then running and hiding rather than being caught in why your reasons for discounting someone are suspicious

"I"m not going to argue with you DH I'm just going to hide and vote" = "I am just going to blend in since I got on this first team and can float the results for later rounds"

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 10:41 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:36 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:31 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:22 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:19 am 7% odds that we randomly hit all town on that first team. Not great.
Yikes 7%? Fortunately we didn't rush into things.
Thing is, based on the requirements for trial two and four, there's a 7% chance that we've already won the game, right? Shouldn't we try it out instead of counting on DP?
7% odds are "Not Great".

The odds with DP aren't any better. That's just the numbers talking. Why DP?? I get why you'd put yourself on the team, sure. But are you that certain that there are two scum to replace?

I follow some of your logic, but not all of it.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 10:47 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:41 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:36 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:31 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:22 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:19 am 7% odds that we randomly hit all town on that first team. Not great.
Yikes 7%? Fortunately we didn't rush into things.
Thing is, based on the requirements for trial two and four, there's a 7% chance that we've already won the game, right? Shouldn't we try it out instead of counting on DP?
7% odds are "Not Great".
The odds with DP aren't any better. That's just the numbers talking. Why DP?? I get why you'd put yourself on the team, sure. But are you that certain that there are two scum to replace?

I follow some of your logic, but not all of it.

He's consistently disapproved teams. So if the last one was a float for some reason, then he would have approved it if he were bad I think. And if he is bad, he's less likely to try and sink this mission because last mission succeeded.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 10:52 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:23 am Scotty/Ed

Why the disapprovals?

I don't trust that both of you new additions are on the Civ side. I'd bet that one of you isn't.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 11:05 am**

EdJou wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:52 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:23 am Scotty/Ed

Why the disapprovals?
I don't trust that both of you new additions are on the Civ side. I'd bet that one of you isn't.

Odds are good that the mission as I've proposed it passes tho..

Although I'm satisfied with your answer.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 11:05 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:08 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 9:31 pm I believe MP+7 will not be a problem with a prompt enough vote, because Spacedaisy is there to nudge him. And I would not count that as any kind of BTSC even during closed BTSC time. It's just sensible.

So, if a Not Guilty verdict comes up, is the common practice to create juries that contain none of the original four?
So you approved the team, we had a guilty verdict, DH makes a team that only has 2 of the original, adding himself and...DP, who no one has talked about yet, and you wholeheartedly agree with it, saying that it’s in the bag?

I actually assumed that he made the same team, I didn't realize he had changed people. We need to have the same jury.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 11:08 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 11:05 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:08 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 9:31 pm I believe MP+7 will not be a problem with a prompt enough vote, because Spacedaisy is there to nudge him. And I would not count that as any kind of BTSC even during closed BTSC time. It's just sensible.

So, if a Not Guilty verdict comes up, is the common practice to create juries that contain none of the original four?
So you approved the team, we had a guilty verdict, DH makes a team that only has 2 of the original, adding himself and...DP, who no one has talked about yet, and you wholeheartedly agree with it, saying that it’s in the bag?

I actually assumed that he made the same team, I didn't realize he had changed people. We need to have the same jury.

Seems you need reading glasses. Or you were intentionally careless.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 11:17 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 11:08 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 11:05 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:08 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 9:31 pm I believe MP+7 will not be a problem with a prompt enough vote, because Spacedaisy is there to nudge him. And I would not count that as any kind of BTSC even during closed BTSC time. It's just sensible.

So, if a Not Guilty verdict comes up, is the common practice to create juries that contain none of the original four?
So you approved the team, we had a guilty verdict, DH makes a team that only has 2 of the original, adding himself and...DP, who no one has talked about yet, and you wholeheartedly agree with it, saying that it’s in the bag?

I actually assumed that he made the same team, I didn't realize he had changed people. We need to have the same jury.
Seems you need reading glasses. Or you were intentionally careless.

Which do you think it was?

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 11:20 am**

[VOTE: disapprove] aubergine

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 11:23 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 11:17 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 11:08 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 11:05 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:08 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 9:31 pm I believe MP+7 will not be a problem with a prompt enough vote, because Spacedaisy is there to nudge him. And I would not count that as any kind of BTSC even during closed BTSC time. It's just sensible.

So, if a Not Guilty verdict comes up, is the common practice to create juries that contain none of the original four?
So you approved the team, we had a guilty verdict, DH makes a team that only has 2 of the original, adding himself and...DP, who no one has talked about yet, and you wholeheartedly agree with it, saying that it’s in the bag?

I actually assumed that he made the same team, I didn't realize he had changed people. We need to have the same jury.
Seems you need reading glasses. Or you were intentionally careless.
Which do you think it was?

Difficult to say.if last mission contained baddies, LC's vote for that mission is suspect.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:01 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:06 am Wait, why are we not nominating the same team?

Because DH is picking. Good luck convincing him to select a team with himself not on it.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:02 pm**

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:01 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:06 am Wait, why are we not nominating the same team?
Because DH is picking. Good luck convincing him to select a team with himself not on it.

Especially in this current climate.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:08 pm**

[VOTE: approve] aubergine

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:17 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:23 am Scotty/Ed

Why the disapprovals?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:32 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:30 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:28 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:26 pm
When all of the jury has finished voting, the outcome of the trial will be revealed. A unanimous vote is required to reach a Guilty verdict
That's why, Scotty.
What’s why? I don’t see anywhere that mentions a time limit. MP will eventually get around here, and vote. Then the results will be revealed
*eventually

Linki - Its a matter of expediency for me, he could be good, but it doesn't do me any good to fuck around and wait to find out.
You prefer to rush into things, eh?

Duly noted. I’m rejecting whatever mission you propose

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:18 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 11:05 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:08 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 9:31 pm I believe MP+7 will not be a problem with a prompt enough vote, because Spacedaisy is there to nudge him. And I would not count that as any kind of BTSC even during closed BTSC time. It's just sensible.

So, if a Not Guilty verdict comes up, is the common practice to create juries that contain none of the original four?
So you approved the team, we had a guilty verdict, DH makes a team that only has 2 of the original, adding himself and...DP, who no one has talked about yet, and you wholeheartedly agree with it, saying that it’s in the bag?

I actually assumed that he made the same team, I didn't realize he had changed people. We need to have the same jury.

ok

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:19 pm**

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:22 pm**

What's the tally?

Has anyone received a PM from anyone else? Anything they'd feel comfortable reporting?

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:23 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:17 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:23 am Scotty/Ed

Why the disapprovals?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:32 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:30 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:28 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:26 pm
When all of the jury has finished voting, the outcome of the trial will be revealed. A unanimous vote is required to reach a Guilty verdict
That's why, Scotty.
What’s why? I don’t see anywhere that mentions a time limit. MP will eventually get around here, and vote. Then the results will be revealed
*eventually

Linki - Its a matter of expediency for me, he could be good, but it doesn't do me any good to fuck around and wait to find out.
You prefer to rush into things, eh?

Duly noted. I’m rejecting whatever mission you propose

How is prefering that the jury we've already selected make their votes in a timely manner "rushing into things"?

You and Daisy have no idea what those three words mean.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:24 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:22 pm What's the tally?

Has anyone received a PM from anyone else? Anything they'd feel comfortable reporting?

4-3 in favor of scrapping the team. MP will probably vote against, so 5-3. Nobody's talked to me at all.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:27 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:22 pm What's the tally?

Has anyone received a PM from anyone else? Anything they'd feel comfortable reporting?

Sure. Edjou PM’d us all while on the jury and told us he was voting guilty lol

So yeah, some revealing stuff so far

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:28 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:23 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:17 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:23 am Scotty/Ed

Why the disapprovals?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:32 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:30 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:28 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 3:26 pm
When all of the jury has finished voting, the outcome of the trial will be revealed. A unanimous vote is required to reach a Guilty verdict
That's why, Scotty.
What’s why? I don’t see anywhere that mentions a time limit. MP will eventually get around here, and vote. Then the results will be revealed
*eventually

Linki - Its a matter of expediency for me, he could be good, but it doesn't do me any good to fuck around and wait to find out.
You prefer to rush into things, eh?

Duly noted. I’m rejecting whatever mission you propose

How is prefering that the jury we've already selected make their votes in a timely manner "rushing into things"?

You and Daisy have no idea what those three words mean.

I was more alluding to the comment below the “rushing into things”.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:30 pm**

So you're just arbitrarily sinking teams with me on it. Cool glad I played.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:34 pm**

I realize that MP may not have even voted in the last jury mission. For that reason, I’d assume that we should do the same team again, because if it fails and MP still doesn’t post, the bad guy would be one of me, Daisy, or edjou.

I currently don’t think Daisy is bad because we seem to share a similar viewpoint of DH, but if there’s one person I’m on th fence about, it’s Edjou. I just don’t know how he games yet. So if we do the same mission, and it comes back not guilty (provided MP is still MIA) then I think it pretty obvious who is bad

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:35 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:30 pm So you're just arbitrarily sinking teams with me on it. Cool glad I played.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:39 pm**

I have no issue with running the same team again. It isn't really more or less likely to be successful than another team, given the likelihood of floaters. Low risk, high reward.

Dunno if the upcoming choosers will agree, though.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:46 pm**

If Golden and Dispor and Sprityo hold to their votes, this team is toast anyway. Didn't think it would pass.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:54 pm**

[VOTE: Disapprove] aubergine

Throwing me in seems a little strange and I don't know if it's an effort to put a question mark on my back. I'd rather be safe than sorry in this situation.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:56 pm**

Guess I'll have to wait till round 3 to play the game. Which is good, and cool and fun, because I hate rushing into things.

I won't be offering any tips or tricks or insights or advice in later rounds to anyone for any reason. Bless you all and good luck.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:58 pm**

[VOTE: Disapprove] aubergine

Sure, there could be floaters. But I think the best way to test for sure is to put the same team up. I doubt the baddies will tank the first two juries, so if they both pass we are on to something.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 12:59 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:58 pm [VOTE: Disapprove] aubergine

Sure, there could be floaters. But I think the best way to test for sure is to put the same team up. I doubt the baddies will tank the first two juries, so if they both pass we are on to something.

This is a very good point unless it's not.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 1:20 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:56 pm Guess I'll have to wait till round 3 to play the game. Which is good, and cool and fun, because I hate rushing into things.

I won't be offering any tips or tricks or insights or advice in later rounds to anyone for any reason. Bless you all and good luck.

DH I just find you bad in this game. If you’re not I apologize. No hard feelings

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 1:39 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 1:20 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:56 pm Guess I'll have to wait till round 3 to play the game. Which is good, and cool and fun, because I hate rushing into things.

I won't be offering any tips or tricks or insights or advice in later rounds to anyone for any reason. Bless you all and good luck.
DH I just find you bad in this game. If you’re not I apologize. No hard feelings

No need to apologize. I'm not, but I'm also not keen on being sidelined for dumb reasons.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 1:46 pm**

The original team contains at least one floating baddie in my opinion, and that's Space "I think its a bad idea to rush into things, even though DH never said rush into things, and we should approve the second team ever proposed even though that's also rushing into things" Daisy.

Poison the well with a silly suspicion and then run and hide when I present exactly how silly it is? Yeah OK nothing suspect there.

Definitely not a criminal who got onto a team and is afraid being active/challenged in the thread will reveal her so she's just hiding and voting and nothing else.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 1:51 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 1:46 pm The original team contains at least one floating baddie in my opinion, and that's Space "I think its a bad idea to rush into things, even though DH never said rush into things, and we should approve the second team ever proposed even though that's also rushing into things" Daisy.

Poison the well with a silly suspicion and then run and hide when I present exactly how silly it is? Yeah OK nothing suspect there.

Definitely not a criminal who got onto a team and is afraid being active/challenged in the thread will reveal her so she's just hiding and voting and nothing else.

Except of the other 2 (Mp and edjou) SpaceDaisy is the one I trust the most. I happen to agree with her assessment: you said you preferred things expedited, which, as far as my years at galactic school have taught me, is synonymous with going fast aka rushing

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:00 pm**

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:54 pm [VOTE: Disapprove] aubergine

Throwing me in seems a little strange and I don't know if it's an effort to put a question mark on my back. I'd rather be safe than sorry in this situation.

What will you be suggesting? We can hash it out before you suggest it so that more people might agree.

[VOTE: DISAPPROVE] aubergine

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:06 pm**

I dunno guys, I’m of the belief if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Just like that shelving unit in my kitchen- the back left leg is whopaja but it hasn’t collapsed yet so ima drink my coffee and ignore it until it does

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:08 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 1:51 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 1:46 pm The original team contains at least one floating baddie in my opinion, and that's Space "I think its a bad idea to rush into things, even though DH never said rush into things, and we should approve the second team ever proposed even though that's also rushing into things" Daisy.

Poison the well with a silly suspicion and then run and hide when I present exactly how silly it is? Yeah OK nothing suspect there.

Definitely not a criminal who got onto a team and is afraid being active/challenged in the thread will reveal her so she's just hiding and voting and nothing else.
Except of the other 2 (Mp and edjou) SpaceDaisy is the one I trust the most. I happen to agree with her assessment: you said you preferred things expedited, which, as far as my years at galactic school have taught me, is synonymous with going fast aka rushing

I said I would like the jury pass/fails to be expedited. I said I wanted to see as many team nominations as possible before settling on a functional team. 2 Different Things

Yall are fuckin' loopy.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:13 pm**

A majority of players have voted against DH’s jury, so it does not pass.

[mention]DisgruntledPorcupine[/mention], please propose a jury for the second trial.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:13 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 2:08 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 1:51 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 1:46 pm The original team contains at least one floating baddie in my opinion, and that's Space "I think its a bad idea to rush into things, even though DH never said rush into things, and we should approve the second team ever proposed even though that's also rushing into things" Daisy.

Poison the well with a silly suspicion and then run and hide when I present exactly how silly it is? Yeah OK nothing suspect there.

Definitely not a criminal who got onto a team and is afraid being active/challenged in the thread will reveal her so she's just hiding and voting and nothing else.
Except of the other 2 (Mp and edjou) SpaceDaisy is the one I trust the most. I happen to agree with her assessment: you said you preferred things expedited, which, as far as my years at galactic school have taught me, is synonymous with going fast aka rushing
I said I would like the jury pass/fails to be expedited. I said I wanted to see as many team nominations as possible before settling on a functional team. 2 Different Things

Yall are fuckin' loopy.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:14 pm**

DP, do whatever mission you want man. I’m all ears

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:22 pm**

I would do the same team as last time.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:32 pm**

I will put the same people up as the ones that got a good result, subbing myself in for one person (EdJou). I agree with the thought that messing around with it too much is no more likely to pass, so I'll just sub myself in since I know I'm on the good side.

Not a great reason for my choice in subbing out, I just feel OK about Scotty and Daisy being on there still and want to see what happens if MP is around to vote.

DisgruntledPorcupine
M Plus 7
Scotty
Spacedaisy

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:34 pm**

Yikes my dude.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:35 pm**

[VOTE: approve] aubergine

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:36 pm**

[VOTE: Approve] aubergine

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:37 pm**

Thinking about this.

On one hand I think the same team is what we want. On the other I’m up next and I’d definitely sub myself in as well.

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:37 pm**

[VOTE: disapprove] aubergine

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:38 pm**

Who would you sub yourself in for?

Posted: **Wed May 02, 2018 2:38 pm**

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 2:37 pm [VOTE: disapprove] aubergine

QUE!?!?

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