The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:02 pm
So you are voting DH because he was a civilian in the a completely different game and you suspected him there?

I have my reasons, or it could be DH just reads scummy each game. (that could be a thing; I would need to have played more games with him to test this theory).

But I think he's being different.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:03 pm
Are you reading the thread or not?

I skipped some posts. Were yours important?

I'm starting to think Owner of a Lonely Heart just doesn't like me very much which I'm not sure how to take.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:02 pm
I didn't say I was done for the day, I said I'm tired and I don't think I'd be able to dig into the thread productively.

So you are chalking up any potential future badly typed posts "oh I'm tired" or "basically you are downplaying your ability"?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:24 pm [VOTE: Sonjei] aubergine

Hufflepuffs are wimps and he’s from a poor family.

*sneer*

Hitting at house and home already, ouch.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:01 pm This Glorf talk reminds me of the presence of Veritaserum. This game has lie detection - can we lie-detect any post successfully, or are there restrictions? Some games have a rule that you can't LD answers to direct questions, to avoid everyone lining up and saying "I am a Civilian" as an automatic checkable phrase. Also, what happens when Glorf is given Veritaserum? Super-honesty?

The effects of Veritaserum are described in the OPs under set-up, which clearly state it's limitations. Any attempts at a loophole would be grounds for asking the host, not something to go off on a tangent discussing with other players. I am puzzled at why you are asking about it's effect on a specific player, unless it's meant to be a joke as by what I can ascertain from other's posts Glorf has a truth meta.

I don't see a point in this post in furthering town's goals, if anything it reminds mafia of a mechanic they might have forgotten about. It just wants to go off into pure speculation, you don't even bring up any good targets for use of it.

Baseless mechanics talk is a general scumtell for me so :

[/b][VOTE: [/b]] aubergine

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:06 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:03 pm
Are you reading the thread or not?

I skipped some posts. Were yours important?

No. Not really.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:08 pm I'm starting to think Owner of a Lonely Heart just doesn't like me very much which I'm not sure how to take.

I respect you, but that doesn't mean I'll stop being critical of you.

Didn't know that triggered the voting function here, that was :

Vote Lynch Longcon

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:09 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:02 pm
I didn't say I was done for the day, I said I'm tired and I don't think I'd be able to dig into the thread productively.

So you are chalking up any potential future badly typed posts "oh I'm tired" or "basically you are downplaying your ability"?

...no? What?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:08 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:37 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:26 pm Reasons?

If you want to hold up the name of Ravenclaw, you ought to read the rules.

I am not following this, help a brother out.

So here's the deal, bro. Some students have these "deathly hallows" whatchamacallits. (holy heck my spell check recognizes that word) And the only way for someone else to get them is to kill the player that has it.

... or to be the LAST vote on a condemned player's lynch train at day end. If the lynched player has a Deathly Hallow, it'll go to whoever the last vote was.
Thus the dogpiling on the end. You're welcome to join me. I have no idea how DDL will determine who the last person was to vote, but it'll be me.

linki: SONEJI ARRIVED!

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:11 pm
...no? What?

By saying that you were tired, you excused yourself from the thread and haven't been posting here, until I voted for you and started talking.

That potentially means you were still around in the thread or "hovering". There could be a variety of reasons why you weren't saying anything, but I don't know. I might need to look at the Firefly game again to see if your posts in that game were as scummy as the ones that I'm currently seeing in this game.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:11 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:08 pm I'm starting to think Owner of a Lonely Heart just doesn't like me very much which I'm not sure how to take.

I respect you, but that doesn't mean I'll stop being critical of you.

Seems like you're constantly and exclusively critical of me, but hell I've got pretty thick skin I'll be fine. Anyway good luck with that I guess.

Soneji said the same thing I said. I agree with both him and myself. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I might seriously not be able to post again during Day 1. I will try my best.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:18 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:11 pm
...no? What?

By saying that you were tired, you excused yourself from the thread and haven't been posting here, until I voted for you and started talking.

That potentially means you were still around in the thread or "hovering". There could be a variety of reasons why you weren't saying anything, but I don't know. I might need to look at the Firefly game again to see if your posts in that game were as scummy as the ones that I'm currently seeing in this game.

Before you got here and after I told Jay that I'd do more serious and focused work on the thread tomorrow, I asked Epi if he meant that I was a filer position on his list of suspects or if he mean that I was on his list of suspects because I'd been posting "filler".

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:19 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:11 pm
I respect you, but that doesn't mean I'll stop being critical of you.

Seems like you're constantly and exclusively critical of me, but hell I've got pretty thick skin I'll be fine. Anyway good luck with that I guess.

JJJ seems alright. I want to look at Quin. Epi is null. Speedy, I'm slightly worried about.

I think yourself, JJJ, nova, and poutanko are the players I feel like I might have some meta on.

Owner if you just admit you hate me I'll be cool with it, seriously its fine I've been through much worse mafia-relationships before.

I called you filler, DH, because a filler is unimportant. That's all.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:25 pm I called you filler, DH, because a filler is unimportant. That's all.

See I told you, much worse relationships.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:20 pm Soneji said the same thing I said. I agree with both him and myself. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I might seriously not be able to post again during Day 1. I will try my best.

"I agree with both him and myself."

Is there a scenario in which you disagree with yourself?

You are fucking around.

Vote: JJJ

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:21 pm
Before you got here and after I told Jay that I'd do more serious and focused work on the thread tomorrow, I asked Epi if he meant that I was a filer position on his list of suspects or if he mean that I was on his list of suspects because I'd been posting "filler".

You did. You felt it necessary to tell JJJ that you weren't a full strength, but that's potentially null. If you're scum and Epi is town, then this question would be to find out where Epi stands on you. So far, these two things could support scum motivations.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:24 pm Owner if you just admit you hate me I'll be cool with it, seriously its fine I've been through much worse mafia-relationships before.

I can't tell if you are trying to appeal to emotion or if this is a joke.

This sounds like a bullshit act to me.

So far DH, I haven't seen anything that screams town from you. Cause, in Firefly, you did do some townie things that almost made me read you correctly.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:31 pm This sounds like a bullshit act to me.

Which part? And who?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:32 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:31 pm This sounds like a bullshit act to me.

Which part? And who?

I think you're trying to set DH up.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:29 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:24 pm Owner if you just admit you hate me I'll be cool with it, seriously its fine I've been through much worse mafia-relationships before.

I can't tell if you are trying to appeal to emotion or if this is a joke.

That was a joke.

Or was it.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:27 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:21 pm
Before you got here and after I told Jay that I'd do more serious and focused work on the thread tomorrow, I asked Epi if he meant that I was a filer position on his list of suspects or if he mean that I was on his list of suspects because I'd been posting "filler".

You did. You felt it necessary to tell JJJ that you weren't a full strength, but that's potentially null. If you're scum and Epi is town, then this question would be to find out where Epi stands on you. So far, these two things could support scum motivations.

i don't understand what you're talking about. I told Jay I'd get to the meat of things tomorrow, and I asked Epi for clarification on his "filler" remark. Where's that track to "if you're scum and Epi is town" territory?

IDK Fam you do you.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:34 pm
I think you're trying to set DH up.

A lot of his posts read scummy to me. Maybe, he'll improve tomorrow, but so far, I don't see it.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:35 pm
That was a joke.

Or was it.

Hmm. You really aren't helping your case. But then again, I can be pretty annoying too.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:31 pm So far DH, I haven't seen anything that screams town from you. Cause, in Firefly, you did do some townie things that almost made me read you correctly.

I dunno out of everything you've said I take this as the biggest lie. I don't recall you ever even almost reading me as town in Firefly for one thing and for another it's barely D1 and your reasons for "scum" reading me are convoluted and backwards.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:37 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:27 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:21 pm
Before you got here and after I told Jay that I'd do more serious and focused work on the thread tomorrow, I asked Epi if he meant that I was a filer position on his list of suspects or if he mean that I was on his list of suspects because I'd been posting "filler".

You did. You felt it necessary to tell JJJ that you weren't a full strength, but that's potentially null. If you're scum and Epi is town, then this question would be to find out where Epi stands on you. So far, these two things could support scum motivations.

i don't understand what you're talking about. I told Jay I'd get to the meat of things tomorrow, and I asked Epi for clarification on his "filler" remark. Where's that track to "if you're scum and Epi is town" territory?

IDK Fam you do you.

That's just one possible world. It's kind of light right now.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:54 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:52 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:28 pm
It's relatively late, my sleep schedule is fucked, and I win games when I troll you and refuse to add anything of value to discussion.

2/3 of those things means I'll dig my heels in and do some rock-squeezing tomorrow.

Hi, it's good to play with you again, though I'm still suspicious of you.

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

"Still?"

In the Firefly game we played together, I was suspicious of him the whole game. I just couldn't bring myself to trust him sadly. We were actually on the same side though. Rip.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:04 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:02 pm
So you are voting DH because he was a civilian in the a completely different game and you suspected him there?

I have my reasons, or it could be DH just reads scummy each game. (that could be a thing; I would need to have played more games with him to test this theory).

But I think he's being different.

Cool.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:39 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:31 pm So far DH, I haven't seen anything that screams town from you. Cause, in Firefly, you did do some townie things that almost made me read you correctly.

I dunno out of everything you've said I take this as the biggest lie. I don't recall you ever even almost reading me as town in Firefly for one thing and for another it's barely D1 and your reasons for "scum" reading me are convoluted and backwards.

I want to say I was back and forth on you on day 2 that game, but I don't know if I voiced this opinion or not. I thought I did. *takes slight offense at calling me a liar*

I don't understand why I'm engaging in this conversation.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:41 pm

Spoiler: show

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:54 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:52 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:28 pm
It's relatively late, my sleep schedule is fucked, and I win games when I troll you and refuse to add anything of value to discussion.

2/3 of those things means I'll dig my heels in and do some rock-squeezing tomorrow.

Hi, it's good to play with you again, though I'm still suspicious of you.

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

"Still?"

In the Firefly game we played together, I was suspicious of him the whole game. I just couldn't bring myself to trust him sadly. We were actually on the same side though. Rip.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:04 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:02 pm
So you are voting DH because he was a civilian in the a completely different game and you suspected him there?

I have my reasons, or it could be DH just reads scummy each game. (that could be a thing; I would need to have played more games with him to test this theory).

But I think he's being different.

Cool.

This post here is very different from the last game. Those statements don't contradict each other. I struggled to trust you in the Firefly game, and in this game, you feel different from the Firefly game.

I feel different than I did in the game you scum read me, but you scum read me in this game as well.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:39 pm
I dunno out of everything you've said I take this as the biggest lie. I don't recall you ever even almost reading me as town in Firefly for one thing and for another it's barely D1 and your reasons for "scum" reading me are convoluted and backwards.

I haven't said all the reasons. And am I not allowed to start this early? It shouldn't matter of how early or late in the game it is.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:50 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:39 pm
I dunno out of everything you've said I take this as the biggest lie. I don't recall you ever even almost reading me as town in Firefly for one thing and for another it's barely D1 and your reasons for "scum" reading me are convoluted and backwards.

I haven't said all the reasons. And am I not allowed to start this early? It shouldn't matter of how early or late in the game it is.

"its barely D1" meaning "Get off my jock about not participating or excusing myself from the thread or w/e"

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:49 pm I feel different than I did in the game you scum read me, but you scum read me in this game as well.

Yay!! You actually understood me. That is correct.

Yes, it might be weird to some, but I guess I'm waiting for you to do something to prove me wrong. I can't explain what that is, but I'll know it when I see it...if it even happens though, which it might not.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:51 pm
"its barely D1" meaning "Get off my jock about not participating or excusing myself from the thread or w/e"

You sound angry. Are you going to be okay?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:55 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:51 pm
"its barely D1" meaning "Get off my jock about not participating or excusing myself from the thread or w/e"

You sound angry. Are you going to be okay?

I'm fine. If I get angry you'll recognize it.

Well that was absolutely not productive so I'm gonna *actually* step away from the thread and maybe go watch Doctor Who or w/e

I'll tell you what I'm not gonna do, is jump through hoops to get someone who won't change their mind about me to change their mind about me. Nah son, not this guy.

what about me, owner? Give DH a break and flag me for a bit.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:58 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:55 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:51 pm
"its barely D1" meaning "Get off my jock about not participating or excusing myself from the thread or w/e"

You sound angry. Are you going to be okay?

I'm fine. If I get angry you'll recognize it.

Okay, if you're sure, I wouldn't want to have been able to get you riled up that easily.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:04 am what about me, owner? Give DH a break and flag me for a bit.

You knowing the intricacies of the Dark Arts stuff and sharing it could be an act to try to buy townie points. I remember reading the stuff about it but not nearly picking up enough about it to understand it all. Basically, if someone had or possessed Dark Arts abilities this game, they would probably read up on it or make sure they understood their abilities.

Technically, what you said is some form of mechanical-talk or a retelling of information, in which some of it is free to us. But it doesn't necessarily solve us the game or anything.

It's potenitally the kind of post meant to look like a person is being useful, but in reality, they aren't truly really adding to the thread.

The problem, speedy, I guess is that you might be too comfortable or have something that keeps you safe at night or whatever, while DH over here seems more squishy.

Yeah, you're probably a great tank, but maybe I want to sometimes play with DH bard.

Me: *Talks to speedy*
Speedy: *is frozen or typing a freakishly long post*...or idk
Me: What? He wanted me to talk to him. Is that a bad thing? Hmmm

Owner, how many times have you played mafia with dh?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:21 am The problem, speedy, I guess is that you might be too comfortable or have something that keeps you safe at night or whatever, while DH over here seems more squishy.

Yeah, you're probably a great tank, but maybe I want to sometimes play with DH bard.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:10 pm I'm going to have essentially zero time until Tuesday night or Wednesday. While I'm not here y'all best find excuses to do work and not excuses to do fuck all. Epi's recent grumbles are valid.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine, because he said some shit I didn't like earlier. He provided a token response to Epi's dig at juliets which just looked like "this is where I am supposed to interject with this here comment" instead of "this is a problem and I want to address it".

This is the post in question:

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:35 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:29 pm juliets and I are not teammates.

There. Go. Find bad guys.

so you know you're on different teams

I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't have read anything at all into Quin saying that, and the fact that Jay did is a little weird.

Agree