Gossip Girl Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MacDougall]

I am gonna dub that read "Explainer Salad" because lol.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Too late. I've already performed the calculations.

What do your calculations usually consist of? (or is this a joke that I accidentally read into?)

That was a joke.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I am gonna dub that read "Explainer Salad" because lol.

I'm on board.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I suspect indiglo but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.

I suspect Lunalee but I would feel bad lynching her first again.

I suspect Matahari but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This has that "I'm accusing people who have no names" vibe:

So, with that thought covered, I’ll now voice an opinion, although it is apt to change. I frequently find people who are aggressive on day zero and day one, to be bad. At this early point in the game, I’m looking at the aggressive people.

[juliets]

And yes, I do suspect you Jay.

k, y

I don't like your empty day 0 reads. They seem baseless, and just throw suspicion on random people. Why?

I've come to accept that nutella is a a hound at sniffing out scum. Also, her back-and-forth with you leaves her looking a bit better than you in my opinion.

I might understand throwing out reads like you did on day 0 to get people talking. But you actually stuck with them into day 1. You say you suspect Indiglo and myself, then later on day 1, you still suspect us but "feel bad" lynching either of us. Day 1 is a time to build a case on those suspects if you were serious about them, or drop them if you weren't. Instead you're trying to look like you're staying "consistent," but you still just have no real reason for the suspicions.

So Luna, you say you suspect Jay but you voted Mongoose. I don't see anything about Mongoose in your recent posts. What did I miss?

[juliets]

I am gonna dub that read "Explainer Salad" because lol.

I'm on board.

I'm confused but what else is new.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't like your empty day 0 reads. They seem baseless, and just throw suspicion on random people. Why?

Hol' up, hol' up.

Why?

Why?

How many games have we played together at this point?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

"Your Day 0 reads are baseless"

Shall we as a class explore why this assertion has no meaning? It's right there in it.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

[juliets]

Jay, I can't find your explanation of your Luna suspicion. I know you're probably in class now but at some point can you point this out? I looked in your ISO.

I explained my suspicions of Luna and indiglo, and neither of them have shit to do with anything on Day 0.

I have to devote my present energy to the other game, so I am kind of throwing shit out here in isolated moments while I work. That's all I can do right now.

[juliets]

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] just to be clear, I understand the problem you brought up in your very recent post about you throwing out names early on in the game. Its the earlier explanation of suspicion I can't find.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Initially this, juliets. Luna discarded all three men in this post without giving a clear read.

Nutella didn't say No U and I know she knows the saying SMH
Lunalee is bad because she said the party could begin while not being the last person to check in. SMH

JJJ is good because he also thinks these two boobs (see what I did there) are bad
Mac is good for reason i gave above.

Hi Rey. It's okay, you don't have to like me. I have plenty of friends.
Careful trusting Mac and Jay just because they agree with your reads. That's actually a terrible reason to trust someone.

Do you suspect rey for this? Do you suspect either Mac or myself? What is this?

My last few posts expand to more recent gripes. Accusing someone of having baseless reads on Day 0 is like accusing cows of mooing. Asking “why” one might hurl them out baselessly is hard to believe. I do it constantly and for reasons I have shared in 90 games.

[juliets]

Initially this, juliets. Luna discarded all three men in this post without giving a clear read.

Nutella didn't say No U and I know she knows the saying SMH
Lunalee is bad because she said the party could begin while not being the last person to check in. SMH

JJJ is good because he also thinks these two boobs (see what I did there) are bad
Mac is good for reason i gave above.

Hi Rey. It's okay, you don't have to like me. I have plenty of friends.
Careful trusting Mac and Jay just because they agree with your reads. That's actually a terrible reason to trust someone.

Do you suspect rey for this? Do you suspect either Mac or myself? What is this?

My last few posts expand to more recent gripes. Accusing someone of having baseless reads on Day 0 is like accusing cows of mooing. Asking “why” one might hurl them out baselessly is hard to believe. I do it constantly and for reasons I have shared in 90 games.

Yes, I definitely understood the problem with Luna's "why" post. You do this every game, for the same reasons. Moreover, I thought you covered at least one reason in a discussion you had with someone - indiglo I think - earlier.

[indiglo]

I've discarded more than 3 men, no reads needed. Y'all are expendable in general.

I have an appointment I have to leave for in the next hour or less. So I'm going to go ahead and vote, and be around as long as I can for any discussion after that. But I won't be here for EOD.

[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine


It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.


*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*

[Matahari]

This has that "I'm accusing people who have no names" vibe:

So, with that thought covered, I’ll now voice an opinion, although it is apt to change. I frequently find people who are aggressive on day zero and day one, to be bad. At this early point in the game, I’m looking at the aggressive people.

Just for the record, by aggressive, I don’t mean people who post too much. I mean people who try to build serious cases on someone on day one. They passively-aggressively start building a case against someone in the hopes of a surviving day one lynch. Even civs do this, but mafia do it more deviously. This is what I’m looking for.

I am also trying to make connections, including reverse connections. To be even more UNclear, I see connections between Nutella and Lunalee, and possibly Mongoose. Reverse connections would be you, Rey, or anyone who hasn’t connected with the ones connected. This is how my brain works in a game, although I may not always come up with the right answer.

[MacDougall]

I've discarded more than 3 men, no reads needed. Y'all are expendable in general.

I have an appointment I have to leave for in the next hour or less. So I'm going to go ahead and vote, and be around as long as I can for any discussion after that. But I won't be here for EOD.

[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine


It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.


*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*

If you insist

[MacDougall]

Matahari town

[indiglo]

Just for the record, by aggressive, I don’t mean people who post too much. I mean people who try to build serious cases on someone on day one. They passively-aggressively start building a case against someone in the hopes of a surviving day one lynch. Even civs do this, but mafia do it more deviously. This is what I’m looking for.

I am also trying to make connections, including reverse connections. To be even more UNclear, I see connections between Nutella and Lunalee, and possibly Mongoose. Reverse connections would be you, Rey, or anyone who hasn’t connected with the ones connected. This is how my brain works in a game, although I may not always come up with the right answer.

To clarify - by reverse connections, you mean that you feel those people are NOT connected to each other?

[Matahari]

Just for the record, by aggressive, I don’t mean people who post too much. I mean people who try to build serious cases on someone on day one. They passively-aggressively start building a case against someone in the hopes of a surviving day one lynch. Even civs do this, but mafia do it more deviously. This is what I’m looking for.

I am also trying to make connections, including reverse connections. To be even more UNclear, I see connections between Nutella and Lunalee, and possibly Mongoose. Reverse connections would be you, Rey, or anyone who hasn’t connected with the ones connected. This is how my brain works in a game, although I may not always come up with the right answer.

To clarify - by reverse connections, you mean that you feel those people are NOT connected to each other?

People who argue with or even vote the connected people to put distance between them. Like busing a teammate.

[Mongoose]

I’m checking in. You all are cracking me up. I’m on my phone, yoga at 530, will be around after, comma abuse.

Wow, we got a real live Clarence Darrow in the house tonight.

[juliets]

[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine


It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.


*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*

Something about this isn't sitting right with me. I went back to see what questions you were talking about. In her last 6 posts she had no questions. In the prior post, going back 7, she asked this question:

"For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ?" Time: 1:03 EST

And then going back two more posts she asked:

"Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles?" Time: 11:31 am

Are these the "questions she was asking and the way she was asking them" that pinged you? They were not in her last few posts as you indicated. And the last question was hours ago. I find your post slightly suspicious unless I'm just not understanding what you're saying.

[indiglo]

*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*

If you insist

[Mongoose]

I've discarded more than 3 men, no reads needed. Y'all are expendable in general.

I have an appointment I have to leave for in the next hour or less. So I'm going to go ahead and vote, and be around as long as I can for any discussion after that. But I won't be here for EOD.

[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine


It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.


*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*

In RE: The State v Mongoose (or how everyone can’t read her or is scared of her analysis acumen)

In fairness to me, I am indeed on a phone that does not display the thread like it supposed to and this makes visibility marginal at best (which may explain some noobish behavior - I’m appalled I didn’t figure out who Owner is) I’m checking in from work, where I’m supposed to be working on some briefs, so some of my responses may seem clipped or truncated. I don’t even have WiFi because this a government building. This is all 100% accurate. I’ll vote to save myself, but it would have been nice to stick around a little longer since this was my first proper game in literally years, and I think you would have enjoyed my quirky persona throughout the game too. But that’s the problem with those that want to help, people can assume the help offered is instead a sword wielded against them.

Linki

[indiglo]

[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine


It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.


*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*

Something about this isn't sitting right with me. I went back to see what questions you were talking about. In her last 6 posts she had no questions. In the prior post, going back 7, she asked this question:

"For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ?" Time: 1:03 EST

And then going back two more posts she asked:

"Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles?" Time: 11:31 am

Are these the "questions she was asking and the way she was asking them" that pinged you? They were not in her last few posts as you indicated. And the last question was hours ago. I find your post slightly suspicious unless I'm just not understanding what you're saying.

It was these posts that have been pinging me:

Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles? I’ve been to AWOL to know.

This one because if she's been here regularly playing with these folks (which she has) then it's a weird question. If she had been gone for a while and this was a first game back, or first game period, I could see asking this. Otherwise it strikes me as just plain weird, and "off". Plus, she mentions being AWOL, which she later said she's been playing burglarys regularly, so... I don't understand that.

For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ? When someone believes something about you that is so patently untrue, the frustration becomes palpable.

Apologies for the leading question, but I really want to know the veracity of my (foregone?) conclusion.

Jay - yes, regarding Nutella. It’s more or less what I was trying to posit yesterday, although I concede I did not do so artfully.

This pair struck me as odd because after asking the question, she seemed to be satisfied with only the response of 3J. Which I think is odd.


When the ping began, those were her last few posts. Since time has passed since starting to feel pingy, I do see she has made further posts, however those few are the ones that pinged me.

Linki~

[Matahari]

Indiglo, lord I suck at stating things clearly. I see several people who keep coming to the others aid, specifically Luna, Nutella, Mongoose ( only once). Then I see people who don’t take notice of their interactions at all (complete distancing), and people who challenge them or even vote them (if they were teammates, it would be a cover, sort of). These people I call reverse connections and they are much harder to make decisions about). I really don’t want to cast a wrong vote, so I’m waiting as long as I can. But if I had to vote now, it would probably be for Luna or Nutella.

[juliets]

[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine


It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.


*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*

Something about this isn't sitting right with me. I went back to see what questions you were talking about. In her last 6 posts she had no questions. In the prior post, going back 7, she asked this question:

"For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ?" Time: 1:03 EST

And then going back two more posts she asked:

"Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles?" Time: 11:31 am

Are these the "questions she was asking and the way she was asking them" that pinged you? They were not in her last few posts as you indicated. And the last question was hours ago. I find your post slightly suspicious unless I'm just not understanding what you're saying.

[mention]indiglo[/mention] I missed the "Who is Owner" question that was in her last two posts, but is that really a question that made you think she is bad?

[Mongoose]

[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine


It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.


*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*

Something about this isn't sitting right with me. I went back to see what questions you were talking about. In her last 6 posts she had no questions. In the prior post, going back 7, she asked this question:

"For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ?" Time: 1:03 EST

And then going back two more posts she asked:

"Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles?" Time: 11:31 am

Are these the "questions she was asking and the way she was asking them" that pinged you? They were not in her last few posts as you indicated. And the last question was hours ago. I find your post slightly suspicious unless I'm just not understanding what you're saying.

It was these posts that have been pinging me:

Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles? I’ve been to AWOL to know.

This one because if she's been here regularly playing with these folks (which she has) then it's a weird question. If she had been gone for a while and this was a first game back, or first game period, I could see asking this. Otherwise it strikes me as just plain weird, and "off". Plus, she mentions being AWOL, which she later said she's been playing burglarys regularly, so... I don't understand that.

For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ? When someone believes something about you that is so patently untrue, the frustration becomes palpable.

Apologies for the leading question, but I really want to know the veracity of my (foregone?) conclusion.

Jay - yes, regarding Nutella. It’s more or less what I was trying to posit yesterday, although I concede I did not do so artfully.

This pair struck me as odd because after asking the question, she seemed to be satisfied with only the response of 3J. Which I think is odd.


When the ping began, those were her last few posts. Since time has passed since starting to feel pingy, I do see she has made further posts, however those few are the ones that pinged me.

Linki~

Ive played two burglaries (if that’s the game that’s only hours long) over the last two years. I feel like I should be offended.

In other news, mafia is scared of me, true/false. (Spoiler alert: true)

[indiglo]

this was my first proper game in literally years,

What's the difference between a burglary and a proper game?

[Mongoose]

this was my first proper game in literally years,

What's the difference between a burglary and a proper game?

Is this is a legitimate question, I meant no offense to burglary hosts. Clearly, I mean not a game of a transitory nature, but one that’s got more complex roles, more players, more time. Like a side mission or a full game.

[MacDougall]

Masculine maleness flows through my male body and into my male genitals.

[MacDougall]

Male.

[indiglo]

Oooh, no I was just unaware of the burglary mafia genre in its entirety.

And that makes a world of difference. I assumed it was just like a smaller game of regular mafia.

I too meant no offense.

Linki~ (really weird linki, too)

[MacDougall]

What a strange thing to be transfixed by. Male vs. Female. Male. I am a shadow observing particle movement chaos stuck inside a meat sack I am no male.

[juliets]

Its getting late and I agree with Jay re: Luna. She sees him throw out names every game and its always for the same reason so why try to throw shade at him for doing it? I also didn't like that she said she suspected Jay but voted instead for Mongoose with no explanation (unless I somehow missed it). It's not much but it's enough for a day 1 vote I think.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

[Mongoose]

Oooh, no I was just unaware of the burglary mafia genre in its entirety.

And that makes a world of difference. I assumed it was just like a smaller game of regular mafia.

I too meant no offense.

Linki~ (really weird linki, too)

Appreciate this post! Your linki made me laugh. There’s been several times this thread I’ve done that, so I thank you all for that.

[dunya]

Anyone want to start the bidding on what happens next? Going once, going twice. Just under 2 hours before your deadline, bitches. Remember, if you miss any 2 votes, you're out of the game.
XOXO —Gossip Girl

[indiglo]

this was my first proper game in literally years,

What's the difference between a burglary and a proper game?

Is this is a legitimate question, I meant no offense to burglary hosts. Clearly, I mean not a game of a transitory nature, but one that’s got more complex roles, more players, more time. Like a side mission or a full game.

Sorry, I was replying to you earlier but didn't quote because I didn't know there'd be linki.

In this case, I am more comfortable with the questions you asked, seeing as how you haven't been a regular mafia player for a while.

I should be happy to move my vote, as my ping has now been quieted. Now to find a new votee in the next 10 minutes.


Linki again, but less weird this time

[MacDougall]

Lunalee is town reading me and voting Mongoose with me why are you all trying to kill her. Fiends.

[Lunalee]

And yes, I do suspect you Jay.

k, y

I don't like your empty day 0 reads. They seem baseless, and just throw suspicion on random people. Why?

I've come to accept that nutella is a a hound at sniffing out scum. Also, her back-and-forth with you leaves her looking a bit better than you in my opinion.

I might understand throwing out reads like you did on day 0 to get people talking. But you actually stuck with them into day 1. You say you suspect Indiglo and myself, then later on day 1, you still suspect us but "feel bad" lynching either of us. Day 1 is a time to build a case on those suspects if you were serious about them, or drop them if you weren't. Instead you're trying to look like you're staying "consistent," but you still just have no real reason for the suspicions.

So Luna, you say you suspect Jay but you voted Mongoose. I don't see anything about Mongoose in your recent posts. What did I miss?

Mongoose received a frowny face in my read list. I didn't feel comfortable with them after reading through their ISO.

I'm going to do an emoji read based off what I gathered from reading through each person's posts.
means I feel like you're town and means I feel like you may not be town.
Elohcin -
indiglo
JaggedJimmyJay
Juilets
MacDougall
Matahari
Mongoose
nutella
Owner of a Lonely Heart
reywas
Spacedaisy

[Lunalee]

I don't like your empty day 0 reads. They seem baseless, and just throw suspicion on random people. Why?

Hol' up, hol' up.

Why?

Why?

How many games have we played together at this point?

Okay, but that aside, why are you so adamant that your day 0 reads are correct? You've only voted Indiglo and myself today. Do you not have any other suspects?

[juliets]

And yes, I do suspect you Jay.

k, y

I don't like your empty day 0 reads. They seem baseless, and just throw suspicion on random people. Why?

I've come to accept that nutella is a a hound at sniffing out scum. Also, her back-and-forth with you leaves her looking a bit better than you in my opinion.

I might understand throwing out reads like you did on day 0 to get people talking. But you actually stuck with them into day 1. You say you suspect Indiglo and myself, then later on day 1, you still suspect us but "feel bad" lynching either of us. Day 1 is a time to build a case on those suspects if you were serious about them, or drop them if you weren't. Instead you're trying to look like you're staying "consistent," but you still just have no real reason for the suspicions.

So Luna, you say you suspect Jay but you voted Mongoose. I don't see anything about Mongoose in your recent posts. What did I miss?

Mongoose received a frowny face in my read list. I didn't feel comfortable with them after reading through their ISO.

I'm going to do an emoji read based off what I gathered from reading through each person's posts.
means I feel like you're town and means I feel like you may not be town.
Elohcin -
indiglo
JaggedJimmyJay
Juilets
MacDougall
Matahari
Mongoose
nutella
Owner of a Lonely Heart
reywas
Spacedaisy

Ah, I forgot to look at your emoji reads, my bad. Why do you see her as bad?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't like your empty day 0 reads. They seem baseless, and just throw suspicion on random people. Why?

Hol' up, hol' up.

Why?

Why?

How many games have we played together at this point?

Okay, but that aside, why are you so adamant that your day 0 reads are correct? You've only voted Indiglo and myself today. Do you not have any other suspects?

I’m not adamant about anything. I don’t even remember some of my Day 0 reads. Matahari is a suspect. Why is your vote on Mongoose?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]Mongoose[/mention], why Luna?

[Lunalee]

@Mongoose, why Luna?

I just assumed it was a "no u" vote.

[MacDougall]

Jay and Mongoose are teammates

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay and Mongoose are teammates

I do understand none of the case save for her first post.

[Lunalee]

If you and MacD were in a city together, would it be called Cahoots? Asking for a friend.

You are one strange maphier

That's literally the first correct thing you've surmised about me all day.

This just seems like a funny thing to say if you're actually really scum. If you're town, what's the motive?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Or whichever one was the explanation salad.

[Lunalee]

I don't like your empty day 0 reads. They seem baseless, and just throw suspicion on random people. Why?

Hol' up, hol' up.

Why?

Why?

How many games have we played together at this point?

Okay, but that aside, why are you so adamant that your day 0 reads are correct? You've only voted Indiglo and myself today. Do you not have any other suspects?

I’m not adamant about anything. I don’t even remember some of my Day 0 reads. Matahari is a suspect. Why is your vote on Mongoose?

Mongoose's tone is overall timid, questioning, and her posts don't hold a lot of content. It doesn't look like a strong town play to me. Which is why she's on my watch list.