Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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That was a joke.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:49 pmWhat do your calculations usually consist of? (or is this a joke that I accidentally read into?)
I'm on board.
I suspect Matahari but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:57 pmI suspect Lunalee but I would feel bad lynching her first again.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:00 pm I suspect indiglo but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.
So Luna, you say you suspect Jay but you voted Mongoose. I don't see anything about Mongoose in your recent posts. What did I miss?Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:46 pmI don't like your empty day 0 reads. They seem baseless, and just throw suspicion on random people. Why?
I've come to accept that nutella is a a hound at sniffing out scum. Also, her back-and-forth with you leaves her looking a bit better than you in my opinion.
I might understand throwing out reads like you did on day 0 to get people talking. But you actually stuck with them into day 1. You say you suspect Indiglo and myself, then later on day 1, you still suspect us but "feel bad" lynching either of us. Day 1 is a time to build a case on those suspects if you were serious about them, or drop them if you weren't. Instead you're trying to look like you're staying "consistent," but you still just have no real reason for the suspicions.
I'm confused but what else is new.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:52 pm I explained my suspicions of Luna and indiglo, and neither of them have shit to do with anything on Day 0.
I have to devote my present energy to the other game, so I am kind of throwing shit out here in isolated moments while I work. That's all I can do right now.
My last few posts expand to more recent gripes. Accusing someone of having baseless reads on Day 0 is like accusing cows of mooing. Asking “why” one might hurl them out baselessly is hard to believe. I do it constantly and for reasons I have shared in 90 games.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:11 pmDo you suspect rey for this? Do you suspect either Mac or myself? What is this?Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:58 amHi Rey. It's okay, you don't have to like me. I have plenty of friends.reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:41 am Nutella didn't say No U and I know she knows the saying SMH
Lunalee is bad because she said the party could begin while not being the last person to check in. SMH
JJJ is good because he also thinks these two boobs (see what I did there) are bad
Mac is good for reason i gave above.
Careful trusting Mac and Jay just because they agree with your reads. That's actually a terrible reason to trust someone.
Yes, I definitely understood the problem with Luna's "why" post. You do this every game, for the same reasons. Moreover, I thought you covered at least one reason in a discussion you had with someone - indiglo I think - earlier.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:09 pm Initially this, juliets. Luna discarded all three men in this post without giving a clear read.
My last few posts expand to more recent gripes. Accusing someone of having baseless reads on Day 0 is like accusing cows of mooing. Asking “why” one might hurl them out baselessly is hard to believe. I do it constantly and for reasons I have shared in 90 games.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:11 pmDo you suspect rey for this? Do you suspect either Mac or myself? What is this?Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:58 amHi Rey. It's okay, you don't have to like me. I have plenty of friends.reywaS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:41 am Nutella didn't say No U and I know she knows the saying SMH
Lunalee is bad because she said the party could begin while not being the last person to check in. SMH
JJJ is good because he also thinks these two boobs (see what I did there) are bad
Mac is good for reason i gave above.
Careful trusting Mac and Jay just because they agree with your reads. That's actually a terrible reason to trust someone.
Just for the record, by aggressive, I don’t mean people who post too much. I mean people who try to build serious cases on someone on day one. They passively-aggressively start building a case against someone in the hopes of a surviving day one lynch. Even civs do this, but mafia do it more deviously. This is what I’m looking for.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:49 pm This has that "I'm accusing people who have no names" vibe:
If you insistindiglo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:23 pm I've discarded more than 3 men, no reads needed. Y'all are expendable in general.
I have an appointment I have to leave for in the next hour or less. So I'm going to go ahead and vote, and be around as long as I can for any discussion after that. But I won't be here for EOD.
[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine
It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.
*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*
To clarify - by reverse connections, you mean that you feel those people are NOT connected to each other?Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:29 pm
Just for the record, by aggressive, I don’t mean people who post too much. I mean people who try to build serious cases on someone on day one. They passively-aggressively start building a case against someone in the hopes of a surviving day one lynch. Even civs do this, but mafia do it more deviously. This is what I’m looking for.
I am also trying to make connections, including reverse connections. To be even more UNclear, I see connections between Nutella and Lunalee, and possibly Mongoose. Reverse connections would be you, Rey, or anyone who hasn’t connected with the ones connected. This is how my brain works in a game, although I may not always come up with the right answer.
People who argue with or even vote the connected people to put distance between them. Like busing a teammate.indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:38 pmTo clarify - by reverse connections, you mean that you feel those people are NOT connected to each other?Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:29 pm
Just for the record, by aggressive, I don’t mean people who post too much. I mean people who try to build serious cases on someone on day one. They passively-aggressively start building a case against someone in the hopes of a surviving day one lynch. Even civs do this, but mafia do it more deviously. This is what I’m looking for.
I am also trying to make connections, including reverse connections. To be even more UNclear, I see connections between Nutella and Lunalee, and possibly Mongoose. Reverse connections would be you, Rey, or anyone who hasn’t connected with the ones connected. This is how my brain works in a game, although I may not always come up with the right answer.
Wow, we got a real live Clarence Darrow in the house tonight.
Something about this isn't sitting right with me. I went back to see what questions you were talking about. In her last 6 posts she had no questions. In the prior post, going back 7, she asked this question:indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:23 pm
[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine
It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.
*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*
In RE: The State v Mongoose (or how everyone can’t read her or is scared of her analysis acumen)indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:23 pm I've discarded more than 3 men, no reads needed. Y'all are expendable in general.
I have an appointment I have to leave for in the next hour or less. So I'm going to go ahead and vote, and be around as long as I can for any discussion after that. But I won't be here for EOD.
[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine
It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.
*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:43 pmSomething about this isn't sitting right with me. I went back to see what questions you were talking about. In her last 6 posts she had no questions. In the prior post, going back 7, she asked this question:indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:23 pm
[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine
It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.
*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*
"For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ?" Time: 1:03 EST
And then going back two more posts she asked:
"Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles?" Time: 11:31 am
Are these the "questions she was asking and the way she was asking them" that pinged you? They were not in her last few posts as you indicated. And the last question was hours ago. I find your post slightly suspicious unless I'm just not understanding what you're saying.
This one because if she's been here regularly playing with these folks (which she has) then it's a weird question. If she had been gone for a while and this was a first game back, or first game period, I could see asking this. Otherwise it strikes me as just plain weird, and "off". Plus, she mentions being AWOL, which she later said she's been playing burglarys regularly, so... I don't understand that.
Mongoose wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:03 pm For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ? When someone believes something about you that is so patently untrue, the frustration becomes palpable.
Apologies for the leading question, but I really want to know the veracity of my (foregone?) conclusion.
This pair struck me as odd because after asking the question, she seemed to be satisfied with only the response of 3J. Which I think is odd.
[mention]indiglo[/mention] I missed the "Who is Owner" question that was in her last two posts, but is that really a question that made you think she is bad?juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:43 pmSomething about this isn't sitting right with me. I went back to see what questions you were talking about. In her last 6 posts she had no questions. In the prior post, going back 7, she asked this question:indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:23 pm
[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine
It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.
*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*
"For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ?" Time: 1:03 EST
And then going back two more posts she asked:
"Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles?" Time: 11:31 am
Are these the "questions she was asking and the way she was asking them" that pinged you? They were not in her last few posts as you indicated. And the last question was hours ago. I find your post slightly suspicious unless I'm just not understanding what you're saying.
Ive played two burglaries (if that’s the game that’s only hours long) over the last two years. I feel like I should be offended.indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:52 pmjuliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:43 pmSomething about this isn't sitting right with me. I went back to see what questions you were talking about. In her last 6 posts she had no questions. In the prior post, going back 7, she asked this question:indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:23 pm
[VOTE: mongoose] aubergine
It was her last few posts that pinged me. The questions she was asking and the way she was asking them. I thought perhaps she was a noob, which would have explained it away at least for today... but she isn't a noob, so they just ping me.
*waits for a man to take credit for this post and read*
"For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ?" Time: 1:03 EST
And then going back two more posts she asked:
"Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles?" Time: 11:31 am
Are these the "questions she was asking and the way she was asking them" that pinged you? They were not in her last few posts as you indicated. And the last question was hours ago. I find your post slightly suspicious unless I'm just not understanding what you're saying.
It was these posts that have been pinging me:
This one because if she's been here regularly playing with these folks (which she has) then it's a weird question. If she had been gone for a while and this was a first game back, or first game period, I could see asking this. Otherwise it strikes me as just plain weird, and "off". Plus, she mentions being AWOL, which she later said she's been playing burglarys regularly, so... I don't understand that.
Mongoose wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:03 pm For the good of the group: don’t you think such unbridled frustration tends to read/skew more civ? When someone believes something about you that is so patently untrue, the frustration becomes palpable.
Apologies for the leading question, but I really want to know the veracity of my (foregone?) conclusion.This pair struck me as odd because after asking the question, she seemed to be satisfied with only the response of 3J. Which I think is odd.
When the ping began, those were her last few posts. Since time has passed since starting to feel pingy, I do see she has made further posts, however those few are the ones that pinged me.
Linki~
Is this is a legitimate question, I meant no offense to burglary hosts. Clearly, I mean not a game of a transitory nature, but one that’s got more complex roles, more players, more time. Like a side mission or a full game.
Appreciate this post! Your linki made me laugh. There’s been several times this thread I’ve done that, so I thank you all for that.
Sorry, I was replying to you earlier but didn't quote because I didn't know there'd be linki.
Mongoose received a frowny face in my read list. I didn't feel comfortable with them after reading through their ISO.juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:52 pmSo Luna, you say you suspect Jay but you voted Mongoose. I don't see anything about Mongoose in your recent posts. What did I miss?Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:46 pmI don't like your empty day 0 reads. They seem baseless, and just throw suspicion on random people. Why?
I've come to accept that nutella is a a hound at sniffing out scum. Also, her back-and-forth with you leaves her looking a bit better than you in my opinion.
I might understand throwing out reads like you did on day 0 to get people talking. But you actually stuck with them into day 1. You say you suspect Indiglo and myself, then later on day 1, you still suspect us but "feel bad" lynching either of us. Day 1 is a time to build a case on those suspects if you were serious about them, or drop them if you weren't. Instead you're trying to look like you're staying "consistent," but you still just have no real reason for the suspicions.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:29 pm I'm going to do an emoji read based off what I gathered from reading through each person's posts.
means I feel like you're town and
means I feel like you may not be town.
Elohcin -
indiglo
JaggedJimmyJay
Juilets
MacDougall
Matahari
Mongoose
nutella
Owner of a Lonely Heart
reywas
Spacedaisy
Okay, but that aside, why are you so adamant that your day 0 reads are correct? You've only voted Indiglo and myself today. Do you not have any other suspects?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:57 pmHol' up, hol' up.
Why?
Why?
How many games have we played together at this point?
Ah, I forgot to look at your emoji reads, my bad. Why do you see her as bad?Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:13 pmMongoose received a frowny face in my read list. I didn't feel comfortable with them after reading through their ISO.juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:52 pmSo Luna, you say you suspect Jay but you voted Mongoose. I don't see anything about Mongoose in your recent posts. What did I miss?Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:46 pmI don't like your empty day 0 reads. They seem baseless, and just throw suspicion on random people. Why?
I've come to accept that nutella is a a hound at sniffing out scum. Also, her back-and-forth with you leaves her looking a bit better than you in my opinion.
I might understand throwing out reads like you did on day 0 to get people talking. But you actually stuck with them into day 1. You say you suspect Indiglo and myself, then later on day 1, you still suspect us but "feel bad" lynching either of us. Day 1 is a time to build a case on those suspects if you were serious about them, or drop them if you weren't. Instead you're trying to look like you're staying "consistent," but you still just have no real reason for the suspicions.Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:29 pm I'm going to do an emoji read based off what I gathered from reading through each person's posts.
Elohcin -
indiglo
JaggedJimmyJay
Juilets
MacDougall
Matahari
Mongoose
nutella
Owner of a Lonely Heart
reywas
Spacedaisy
I’m not adamant about anything. I don’t even remember some of my Day 0 reads. Matahari is a suspect. Why is your vote on Mongoose?Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:17 pmOkay, but that aside, why are you so adamant that your day 0 reads are correct? You've only voted Indiglo and myself today. Do you not have any other suspects?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:57 pmHol' up, hol' up.
Why?
Why?
How many games have we played together at this point?
I just assumed it was a "no u" vote.
I do understand none of the case save for her first post.
This just seems like a funny thing to say if you're actually really scum. If you're town, what's the motive?Mongoose wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:59 pmThat's literally the first correct thing you've surmised about me all day.
Mongoose's tone is overall timid, questioning, and her posts don't hold a lot of content. It doesn't look like a strong town play to me. Which is why she's on my watch list.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:20 pmI’m not adamant about anything. I don’t even remember some of my Day 0 reads. Matahari is a suspect. Why is your vote on Mongoose?Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:17 pmOkay, but that aside, why are you so adamant that your day 0 reads are correct? You've only voted Indiglo and myself today. Do you not have any other suspects?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:57 pmHol' up, hol' up.
Why?
Why?
How many games have we played together at this point?