The Syndicate

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:06 pm hm, well yes mac. i can deduce that today is in fact, day 0

thank you, this has been my ted talk

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:47 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:11 pm Jackofhearts2005 would you mind having a still image for an avatar for once. the fast movement makes it really hard for me to focus on reading posts

That is the entire point of moving avatars.

Well if you insist on that it's anti-town.

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:28 pm Forgot that the felicity player can't just post results

In that case, what we might want to try a coordinated effort to allow the felicity player to "claim indirectly"

Here's what I'm thinking, if all of us come together and decide on D1 that nobody is allowed to cast a vote, except for the felicity player who casts a vote on her peek, we get whoever we want out D1.

This doesn't break the claiming rules as far as I understand, because anybody can still step forth and vote. But if someone else does vote, we'll still know one is felicity and one is scum. So still a net +

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:18 pm This is a great lineup.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:57 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 1:55 pm Before I catch up: what comes after D0? N1 or D1?

Day 1

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:19 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:28 pm Forgot that the felicity player can't just post results

In that case, what we might want to try a coordinated effort to allow the felicity player to "claim indirectly"

Here's what I'm thinking, if all of us come together and decide on D1 that nobody is allowed to cast a vote, except for the felicity player who casts a vote on her peek, we get whoever we want out D1.

This doesn't break the claiming rules as far as I understand, because anybody can still step forth and vote. But if someone else does vote, we'll still know one is felicity and one is scum. So still a net +

Interesting idea but that would not only out them and give scum a target

But wouldnt it be better to hold off using that until late game where there’ll be more information regarding player alignment?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:53 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:49 pm Hot take

Felicity player should use her one shot on Rip Hunter to prevent Cult Shenanigans

at first glance cult looks pretty harmless early game, in my personal opinion it should be spent on someone like deathstroke, it brings down the average kpn from 2.5 (i assume) down to 1.5

i dont see any posts of ultra that would let me make a read as they are all pregame fluff which happens or strategic thinking which comes from both alignments

Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:24 pm Why can't I set 100 posts per page?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:15 pm Hello. This is a mafia game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:24 pm Why can't I set 100 posts per page?

You should be able to, but I was curious and started clicking around in my own UCP and it doesn't seem like the posts-per-page function is working at all. No matter what number I set it to, it stays at 50. I'll get to the bottom of this or die trying, you have my word.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:29 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:53 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:49 pm Hot take

Felicity player should use her one shot on Rip Hunter to prevent Cult Shenanigans

at first glance cult looks pretty harmless early game, in my personal opinion it should be spent on someone like deathstroke, it brings down the average kpn from 2.5 (i assume) down to 1.5

i dont see any posts of ultra that would let me make a read as they are all pregame fluff which happens or strategic thinking which comes from both alignments

Hmmmm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:36 pmBe aware my game is likely starting soon

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:32 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:24 pm Why can't I set 100 posts per page?

You should be able to, but I was curious and started clicking around in my own UCP and it doesn't seem like the posts-per-page function is working at all. No matter what number I set it to, it stays at 50. I'll get to the bottom of this or die trying, you have my word.

here lies sloonei, cause of death: phpbb fuckery

Cooler wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 11:22 am Hi all,

First game here.

I tried catching up but the black background made my eyes bleed...

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:45 pm

I am here!

Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:35 pm Also signatures confuse me a lot.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:35 pm

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:12 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:03 pm I'll drop this for a second because you mentioned earlier other ways to make use of info roles - do you mind expanding, and how do you think we could possibly make use of felicia

"Breadcrumbing" is the popular term here for info-proliferation. Just because people aren't allowed to claim their roles, it doesn't mean they have to ignore the information they receive. If, for instance, a cop gets a guilty ID on a player they hadn't previously suspected, there's nothing preventing them from launching into a full tirade against that player the next day, or dropping subtle hints here and there. Basically the no-claiming rules make it so information is to be used more personally, and puts the onus on the civilians to be active in the thread and function as a group to solve the game, rather than waiting for power roles to come along.

This is part of the reason why I'm in no hurry to read all of the roles in the setup. It's never that bit of a deal to me early on. I know my role and I know how I want to approach the game as a civilian. That's all I need to get started.

I don't care to comment on how to make use of Felicia at this time. I think the player who has that role can be trusted to use it however they see fit. I don't think it's a bad idea to provide suggestions, though.

Dont think I’ve played a game before where a cop got a perk and didn’t immediately go “y’all this is it we gottem” by outing their role.

Or a game where everyone didnt claim peeks so the cop could easily out their information without outing themselves

This is both interesting and annoying since I do think it minimizes info a bit but site differences

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:36 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:35 pm Also signatures confuse me a lot.

Turn them off?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:32 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:29 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:53 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:49 pm Hot take

Felicity player should use her one shot on Rip Hunter to prevent Cult Shenanigans

at first glance cult looks pretty harmless early game, in my personal opinion it should be spent on someone like deathstroke, it brings down the average kpn from 2.5 (i assume) down to 1.5

i dont see any posts of ultra that would let me make a read as they are all pregame fluff which happens or strategic thinking which comes from both alignments

Hmmmm

what's on yer mind?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:37 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:35 pm

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:12 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:03 pm I'll drop this for a second because you mentioned earlier other ways to make use of info roles - do you mind expanding, and how do you think we could possibly make use of felicia

"Breadcrumbing" is the popular term here for info-proliferation. Just because people aren't allowed to claim their roles, it doesn't mean they have to ignore the information they receive. If, for instance, a cop gets a guilty ID on a player they hadn't previously suspected, there's nothing preventing them from launching into a full tirade against that player the next day, or dropping subtle hints here and there. Basically the no-claiming rules make it so information is to be used more personally, and puts the onus on the civilians to be active in the thread and function as a group to solve the game, rather than waiting for power roles to come along.

This is part of the reason why I'm in no hurry to read all of the roles in the setup. It's never that bit of a deal to me early on. I know my role and I know how I want to approach the game as a civilian. That's all I need to get started.

I don't care to comment on how to make use of Felicia at this time. I think the player who has that role can be trusted to use it however they see fit. I don't think it's a bad idea to provide suggestions, though.

Dont think I’ve played a game before where a cop got a perk and didn’t immediately go “y’all this is it we gottem” by outing their role.

Or a game where everyone didnt claim peeks so the cop could easily out their information without outing themselves

This is both interesting and annoying since I do think it minimizes info a bit but site differences

It's the best way to play, imo. My favorite role is vanilla town though, so maybe don't listen to me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:52 pm Lol hi, @Creature.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:37 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:35 pm

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:12 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:03 pm I'll drop this for a second because you mentioned earlier other ways to make use of info roles - do you mind expanding, and how do you think we could possibly make use of felicia

"Breadcrumbing" is the popular term here for info-proliferation. Just because people aren't allowed to claim their roles, it doesn't mean they have to ignore the information they receive. If, for instance, a cop gets a guilty ID on a player they hadn't previously suspected, there's nothing preventing them from launching into a full tirade against that player the next day, or dropping subtle hints here and there. Basically the no-claiming rules make it so information is to be used more personally, and puts the onus on the civilians to be active in the thread and function as a group to solve the game, rather than waiting for power roles to come along.

This is part of the reason why I'm in no hurry to read all of the roles in the setup. It's never that bit of a deal to me early on. I know my role and I know how I want to approach the game as a civilian. That's all I need to get started.

I don't care to comment on how to make use of Felicia at this time. I think the player who has that role can be trusted to use it however they see fit. I don't think it's a bad idea to provide suggestions, though.

Dont think I’ve played a game before where a cop got a perk and didn’t immediately go “y’all this is it we gottem” by outing their role.

Or a game where everyone didnt claim peeks so the cop could easily out their information without outing themselves

This is both interesting and annoying since I do think it minimizes info a bit but site differences

It's the best way to play, imo. My favorite role is vanilla town though, so maybe don't listen to me.

Run mountainous game so there isnt any mechanic info to be had :tipping:

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:07 pmI'm used to playing milder role madness closed set ups, and some normal open set ups

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:23 pm Hi I'm new how do I play?

Vote where I vote and use your role power on the person I say to use it on.

Welcome aboard.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:29 pm Let's decide whether or not a thing is pingworthy, gang.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:10 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:02 pm @Ultra what does your scum hunting look like? What types of games are you used to playing, mechanics/setup-wise? What kind of pizza did you get earlier?

This is, like, the opposite of what I saw last game.

Also hi guys

What did you see last game?

Ultra has hesitant to interact with the thread, which is why I voted him D1. He spoke mostly to Nova, who was answering whatever was thrown his way. Some weird dependent thing.

This game, Ultra has already made a hot take and claimed that he's going to flex on the thread (not hesitant), and you're buzzing him with questions as if he needs the help. (Where Nova was just whatever about it)

Enough for an early townread on Ultra. Not sure what to think of all your questions yet. Feels kinda like fluff, but it's also something you do with new players.

The highlighted portion feels tacked on and arbitrary. Speedchuck has shared a straightforward read about Ultra when prompted. He then adds a nothing read on Sloonei which acknowledges that he is observing Regular Sloonei Behavior, but quibbles over it anyway. Why does this non-read on Sloonei exist?

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:28 pm Forgot that the felicity player can't just post results

In that case, what we might want to try a coordinated effort to allow the felicity player to "claim indirectly"

Here's what I'm thinking, if all of us come together and decide on D1 that nobody is allowed to cast a vote, except for the felicity player who casts a vote on her peek, we get whoever we want out D1.

This doesn't break the claiming rules as far as I understand, because anybody can still step forth and vote. But if someone else does vote, we'll still know one is felicity and one is scum. So still a net +

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:46 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:29 pm Let's decide whether or not a thing is pingworthy, gang.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:10 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:02 pm @Ultra what does your scum hunting look like? What types of games are you used to playing, mechanics/setup-wise? What kind of pizza did you get earlier?

This is, like, the opposite of what I saw last game.

Also hi guys

What did you see last game?

Ultra has hesitant to interact with the thread, which is why I voted him D1. He spoke mostly to Nova, who was answering whatever was thrown his way. Some weird dependent thing.

This game, Ultra has already made a hot take and claimed that he's going to flex on the thread (not hesitant), and you're buzzing him with questions as if he needs the help. (Where Nova was just whatever about it)

Enough for an early townread on Ultra. Not sure what to think of all your questions yet. Feels kinda like fluff, but it's also something you do with new players.

The highlighted portion feels tacked on and arbitrary. Speedchuck has shared a straightforward read about Ultra when prompted. He then adds a nothing read on Sloonei which acknowledges that he is observing Regular Sloonei Behavior, but quibbles over it anyway. Why does this non-read on Sloonei exist?

Tinfoil

Next question

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:12 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:45 pm

I am here!

Welcome back. What is your first impression of Ultra?

holy shit we're allowed to read people on day 0?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:19 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:28 pm Forgot that the felicity player can't just post results

In that case, what we might want to try a coordinated effort to allow the felicity player to "claim indirectly"

Here's what I'm thinking, if all of us come together and decide on D1 that nobody is allowed to cast a vote, except for the felicity player who casts a vote on her peek, we get whoever we want out D1.

This doesn't break the claiming rules as far as I understand, because anybody can still step forth and vote. But if someone else does vote, we'll still know one is felicity and one is scum. So still a net +

Interesting idea but that would not only out them and give scum a target

But wouldnt it be better to hold off using that until late game where there’ll be more information regarding player alignment?

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:46 pm Though, I appreciate the universal town read, and if we can find townies, it goes a long way

Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:48 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:12 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:45 pm

I am here!

Welcome back. What is your first impression of Ultra?

holy shit we're allowed to read people on day 0?

What would be the point of a day 0 otherwise?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:35 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:45 pm

I am here!

Nice Google image

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:49 pm Civilians must vote to keep their heels on the throat of mafia. Any plan that recommends civilians do not vote is suspect to me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:47 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:46 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:29 pm Let's decide whether or not a thing is pingworthy, gang.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:10 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:02 pm @Ultra what does your scum hunting look like? What types of games are you used to playing, mechanics/setup-wise? What kind of pizza did you get earlier?

This is, like, the opposite of what I saw last game.

Also hi guys

What did you see last game?

Ultra has hesitant to interact with the thread, which is why I voted him D1. He spoke mostly to Nova, who was answering whatever was thrown his way. Some weird dependent thing.

This game, Ultra has already made a hot take and claimed that he's going to flex on the thread (not hesitant), and you're buzzing him with questions as if he needs the help. (Where Nova was just whatever about it)

Enough for an early townread on Ultra. Not sure what to think of all your questions yet. Feels kinda like fluff, but it's also something you do with new players.

The highlighted portion feels tacked on and arbitrary. Speedchuck has shared a straightforward read about Ultra when prompted. He then adds a nothing read on Sloonei which acknowledges that he is observing Regular Sloonei Behavior, but quibbles over it anyway. Why does this non-read on Sloonei exist?

Tinfoil

Next question

Which thing qualifies as tinfoil here?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:25 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:19 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:28 pm Forgot that the felicity player can't just post results

In that case, what we might want to try a coordinated effort to allow the felicity player to "claim indirectly"

Here's what I'm thinking, if all of us come together and decide on D1 that nobody is allowed to cast a vote, except for the felicity player who casts a vote on her peek, we get whoever we want out D1.

This doesn't break the claiming rules as far as I understand, because anybody can still step forth and vote. But if someone else does vote, we'll still know one is felicity and one is scum. So still a net +

Interesting idea but that would not only out them and give scum a target

But wouldnt it be better to hold off using that until late game where there’ll be more information regarding player alignment?

This has already been resolved and put to bed, but any type of maneuver like this would violate the no-claiming rules.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:48 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:46 pm Though, I appreciate the universal town read, and if we can find townies, it goes a long way

Or it makes you a target for recruitment

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:48 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:19 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:28 pm Forgot that the felicity player can't just post results

In that case, what we might want to try a coordinated effort to allow the felicity player to "claim indirectly"

Here's what I'm thinking, if all of us come together and decide on D1 that nobody is allowed to cast a vote, except for the felicity player who casts a vote on her peek, we get whoever we want out D1.

This doesn't break the claiming rules as far as I understand, because anybody can still step forth and vote. But if someone else does vote, we'll still know one is felicity and one is scum. So still a net +

Interesting idea but that would not only out them and give scum a target

But wouldnt it be better to hold off using that until late game where there’ll be more information regarding player alignment?

I mean the felicity player's peak is a one shot, and can ascertain the identity of any player role in the game, so I think it's a no brainer that it would be used straight away

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:54 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:48 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:19 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:28 pm Forgot that the felicity player can't just post results

In that case, what we might want to try a coordinated effort to allow the felicity player to "claim indirectly"

Here's what I'm thinking, if all of us come together and decide on D1 that nobody is allowed to cast a vote, except for the felicity player who casts a vote on her peek, we get whoever we want out D1.

This doesn't break the claiming rules as far as I understand, because anybody can still step forth and vote. But if someone else does vote, we'll still know one is felicity and one is scum. So still a net +

Interesting idea but that would not only out them and give scum a target

But wouldnt it be better to hold off using that until late game where there’ll be more information regarding player alignment?

I mean the felicity player's peak is a one shot, and can ascertain the identity of any player role in the game, so I think it's a no brainer that it would be used straight away

I mean sure if you wanna get a scum right from the start and not give them any chance to out their teammates

But there are only 2 (pending 3) in the mafia team currently

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:32 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:29 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:53 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:49 pm Hot take

Felicity player should use her one shot on Rip Hunter to prevent Cult Shenanigans

at first glance cult looks pretty harmless early game, in my personal opinion it should be spent on someone like deathstroke, it brings down the average kpn from 2.5 (i assume) down to 1.5

i dont see any posts of ultra that would let me make a read as they are all pregame fluff which happens or strategic thinking which comes from both alignments

Hmmmm

what's on yer mind?

It feels a bit like a minimization of what Ultra’s doing

And I’m not sure if MM has played with Ultra before but it’s kinda shady to dismiss his posts as pregame fluff or NAI

Rip Hunter is a Time Master, and he is recruiting a team of Legends to help him travel through time and space fixing aberrations to the timeline. Every even night he recruits a player to his team. The Legends will win if at any point the surviving Legends outnumber the surviving total baddies.

Deathstroke has been driven to madness through grief and the Mirakuru drug. He will kill every odd night. Last man standing. Due to the Mirakuru and his body armor, he survives the first kill and first lynch attempt on him. He also may not be recruited.

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