Christ. What a terrible slew of posts to read. Really sorry to see you go, Gleam, RIP, and I hope you play with us again in the future. I was really looking forward to playing this game with you.
Don't take it personally, someone always has to go, and I find that when other players often are trying to develop a baseline for a new player, it often leads to early game lynchings. Trust me, it'll pass. I personally thought what you had to say was quite insightful, and I think we will find at least one mafia member who bandwagoned in your lynch.
thellama73 wrote:This is interesting. Hedgeowl did get defensive awfully fast for Day 1. Then again, she has yet to win a game and less experienced players do often resent the possibility of being voted out so early.
I could also see this as a ploy by MP. He put out some feelers, got a reaction and pounced on it. Does he really have to vote this early, or is he trying to get a bandwagon going? A lot of people who are unsure of what to do on Day 1 will follow the first vote. It is also easy to handwave a civ lynch on Day 1 since it almost always happens, so MP might feel that he could get out of any accountability if he succeeds.
I don't know how I'm voting yet today, but I will be watching this situation very carefully. If Hedgeowl is lynched and flips civ, MP will be in the spotlight, for sure.
Yes, I really have to vote this early. I didn't get home until 6:30PM EST and I am incredibly busy now that I'm finished with training at CPA firm. Most of the time I even take lunch, it's quick, or I go out with co-workers. So it's either I vote early every day period (which I hate, for the record, I prefer to hold my vote to the last minute as well for a similar reason as you expressed previously) or I run a serious risk of missing the vote (which I hate even more).
And why would I be in the spotlight if Hedgeowl had been lynched and flipped civ? Can't civvies be wrong and lynch civvies? Anyone who thinks that just because I gun after a civvie hard means I'm baddie needs to remember my previous outings as a civvie (yes, these exist) and my often not so amazing track record.
Roxy wrote:so Hedgeowl and MP please explain how being curious over water voters makes me suspicious? I never said i ws voting for any of them just that I wondered about their votes. Is it b/c I pointed out that if we are in a water land or level that some baddies votes would or can be worth 4?
it is a powerful ability for a baddie tbs they kill at night AND have a chance at controlling lynches.
I totes do not understand how pointing out the obv makes me suspicious? so explain it to me. Especially you MP you really need to explain it to me. b/c you flip flopped in your own posts.
Rox, I think you misunderstand. I do not find you personally suspicious one bit; as you may recall, I said it told us nothing whatsoever of your alignment, or so I believe, because I've played with you for years and I know this is typical Rox behavior regardless of alignment.
However, I did at some point say that, if taken alone, your action was suspicious. If someone else had done what you did, it might have drawn my eye more so. Seemed like a real easy way to incriminate a set of voters that could have voted Water for any number of reasons -- and especially considering all the baddies turned up Goombas and not anything water-related, it's pointless to try and analyze whether any of those people could have possibly been sinister in it or not. A worthwhile baddie strategy could have been to vote Water in that first poll just as much as it would have been to not to, because they surely would deduce that it could likely bring attention from at least someone.
Russtifinko wrote:I have to vote now; reading back I'm finding MP's discussion with Hedgeowl mildly pingy. As I said, I thought she seemed sincere, so I think it's a bit strange MP couldn't see her side of it at all.
votes MP
I'm sorry, what?
Where did I say Hedgeowl was bad? I had literally four hours after the end of Day 0 to re-read the thread, analyze, and try to make a vote (the first one at that) to condemning someone, and I believe I was more than fair in my assessments. I hadn't even intended on voting Hedgeowl at all; I honestly didn't know how I was going to vote, and then she responded. Her responses after I brought up what I had made me re-consider, and even still NOW I am far from certain regarding her alignment one way or another. I had to go off of something, so I made a best guess, and followed what my gut was telling me, even if it was slight.
S~V~S wrote:Nevinera wrote:Bah. I forgot it's a speed game again.
I have plans for the afternoon and evening, so I'm going to toss my vote out now after all.
I agree that voting early smells a bit, and I think that baddies are more likely to have read the bad roles thoroughly
(though that's hardly a solid logical leap), so I'm going to vote for gleam now.
So why gleam and not MP who voted first?
This post raises my brow a bit. It makes me want to vote for you, or maybe even MP.
Why would that make you want to vote for me? Don't you think that's awfully unfair to me considering I and Nev don't speak for each other at all?
Why does early voting smell a bit? I had to. You've played enough games with me over the years to know that I hold my vote if I can, and I am seriously busy this week.
Nevinera wrote:S~V~S wrote:Nevinera wrote:Bah. I forgot it's a speed game again.
I have plans for the afternoon and evening, so I'm going to toss my vote out now after all.
I agree that voting early smells a bit, and I think that baddies are more likely to have read the bad roles thoroughly
(though that's hardly a solid logical leap), so I'm going to vote for gleam now.
So why gleam and not MP who voted first?
This post raises my brow a bit. It makes me want to vote for you, or maybe even MP.
Because mp gave a reason for voting early and gleam didn't, or at least that's what I recall.
I'd have been fine with voting for mp too.
I had to vote and run, and I only had a couple of minutes to look over the state of the game.
It's day 1 anyway, I might as well have randomized.
What, why would you have been fine with voting me? You never explain this unless I missed it. If so, sorry.