The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:39 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:37 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:32 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:22 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:18 pm @ilario

Why did you out a townread on me?
u and matt were trd for similar reasons, i think u both come off across as very uncomfortable when ur wolfing.

also the way u approached reading alexa feels very much you would as town
[VOTE: ilario] aubergine
can you expand on why this feels scummy to you?

You sound like you made this post in a dingy interrogation room with handcuffs on your arms and a spotlight shone in your face while a shadowy figure from behind shouts at you to talk or he'll kill you.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:39 pm**

townreading alison this early when she is known as the best wolf on the syndicate is sus

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:39 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:39 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:37 pm LC has really done nothing particularly townie. I don't feel his obviousness spewing out of every orifice and I find LC to be a pretty easy read. People who have a strong read on LC are suspect.
the people who tr him are ones with a lot of experience with him. he has polarized ranges, and he rates his own scum game as a 1/10. does that change your perspective here?

No.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:37 pm LC has really done nothing particularly townie. I don't feel his obviousness spewing out of every orifice and I find LC to be a pretty easy read. People who have a strong read on LC are suspect.

Well I mean...our wolf game together just ended. You literally have 0 reason to be scared of my wolf game.

There's plenty of people here that have seen my town game this game.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm**

the strangest thing about transcend is that he said theres an oppurtunistic wolf voting in me/alexa and we're tvt, but i found alisons found to be the most scummy and shes his top tr.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm**

@Alison

Wait, legitimate question. Scoring out of 10, what is my wolf game?

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:38 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:37 pm LC has really done nothing particularly townie. I don't feel his obviousness spewing out of every orifice and I find LC to be a pretty easy read. People who have a strong read on LC are suspect.
why do you feel people with a strong read on LC are suspect rather than people who are just good/confident about reading LC?

Because I too am confident about reading LC and I came into this game expecting him to have his obviousness spew out of every orifice. And it hasn't. And I think other people who were good at reading LC would also realize this. If LC is obvious town then having a strong townread on LC isn't suspect. If LC isn't obvious town then having a strong townread on LC is suspect because the reason he is an easy read is that he is obvious town when he is town.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:39 pm townreading alison this early when she is known as the best wolf on the syndicate is sus

idc

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:39 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:37 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:32 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:22 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:18 pm @ilario

Why did you out a townread on me?
u and matt were trd for similar reasons, i think u both come off across as very uncomfortable when ur wolfing.

also the way u approached reading alexa feels very much you would as town
[VOTE: ilario] aubergine
can you expand on why this feels scummy to you?
You sound like you made this post in a dingy interrogation room with handcuffs on your arms and a spotlight shone in your face while a shadowy figure from behind shouts at you to talk or he'll kill you.

come again?

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:37 pm LC has really done nothing particularly townie. I don't feel his obviousness spewing out of every orifice and I find LC to be a pretty easy read. People who have a strong read on LC are suspect.
Well I mean...our wolf game together just ended. You literally have 0 reason to be scared of my wolf game.

There's plenty of people here that have seen my town game this game.

I agree with the first statement. Don't know what it has to do with anything.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm**

i know this sounds scummy but i don't think alison's opening is townny at all and transcend's read on her is making me side-eye hard

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm @Alison

Wait, legitimate question. Scoring out of 10, what is my wolf game?

2.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm the strangest thing about transcend is that he said theres an oppurtunistic wolf voting in me/alexa and we're tvt, but i found alisons found to be the most scummy and shes his top tr.

i just can't shake the feeling that brad might be a wolf

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm come again?

You are anxious, uncomfortable, and feel like you're placating LC.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm @Alison

Wait, legitimate question. Scoring out of 10, what is my wolf game?
2.

Yeah, exactly, you have like no reason to have any paranoia on me.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:38 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:37 pm LC has really done nothing particularly townie. I don't feel his obviousness spewing out of every orifice and I find LC to be a pretty easy read. People who have a strong read on LC are suspect.
why do you feel people with a strong read on LC are suspect rather than people who are just good/confident about reading LC?
Because I too am confident about reading LC and I came into this game expecting him to have his obviousness spew out of every orifice. And it hasn't. And I think other people who were good at reading LC would also realize this. If LC is obvious town then having a strong townread on LC isn't suspect. If LC isn't obvious town then having a strong townread on LC is suspect because the reason he is an easy read is that he is obvious town when he is town.

maybe that just means you arent as experienced at finding town LC as you once thought? more than 2 people have outed that read on him, they cant all be scum right?

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm the strangest thing about transcend is that he said theres an oppurtunistic wolf voting in me/alexa and we're tvt, but i found alisons found to be the most scummy and shes his top tr.

is matt rly a wolf every time we see him LMAO

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:43 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm come again?
You are anxious, uncomfortable, and feel like you're placating LC.

can you quote a single point where i feel anxious and uncomfortable? i really dont think im giving that vibe at all lol. it feels like you're just throwing random words out there rn.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:43 pm**

in retrospect matt's whole "i am town against illario and alexa for the first time" schtick may have been performative

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:45 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:38 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:37 pm LC has really done nothing particularly townie. I don't feel his obviousness spewing out of every orifice and I find LC to be a pretty easy read. People who have a strong read on LC are suspect.
why do you feel people with a strong read on LC are suspect rather than people who are just good/confident about reading LC?
Because I too am confident about reading LC and I came into this game expecting him to have his obviousness spew out of every orifice. And it hasn't. And I think other people who were good at reading LC would also realize this. If LC is obvious town then having a strong townread on LC isn't suspect. If LC isn't obvious town then having a strong townread on LC is suspect because the reason he is an easy read is that he is obvious town when he is town.

do you not understand my reasoning on LC?
and i don't read people based on if they are or aren't obvious town, i've mis-wolf-read people for that reason (and they've mis-wolf-read me for that), i read them based on the specific games

i don't think it's fair to say if obviousness doesn't 'spew out of every orifice' then he's wolf

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:46 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm @Alison

Wait, legitimate question. Scoring out of 10, what is my wolf game?
2.
Yeah, exactly, you have like no reason to have any paranoia on me.

I'm not paranoid of you.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 pm**

i agree that obviousness has not spewed out of every orifice of Lime Coke

but i still townread him

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm maybe that just means you arent as experienced at finding town LC as you once thought? more than 2 people have outed that read on him, they cant all be scum right?

If I say "people who do X are scummy" and the number of people who do X exceeds the size of the mafia team it doesn't mean I'm wrong, it just means my POE is bigger than 2.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:48 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:43 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm come again?
You are anxious, uncomfortable, and feel like you're placating LC.
can you quote a single point where i feel anxious and uncomfortable? i really dont think im giving that vibe at all lol. it feels like you're just throwing random words out there rn.

I just quoted that post.

You may not be aware of your vibe but I am and I think you feel that way.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:48 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 pm i agree that obviousness has not spewed out of every orifice of Lime Coke

but i still townread him

Why do you townread him?

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:49 pm**

alexa why tf r u planting seeds of doubt on me

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:49 pm**

hey all, i’ll be the other MoD along with juliets! please don’t hesitate to contact either of us if you need to. you can reach me over discord (hally#2271) or through a PM here. hope you have a great game!

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:51 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:48 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 pm i agree that obviousness has not spewed out of every orifice of Lime Coke

but i still townread him
Why do you townread him?

because of the way he read me. as scum he usually just tries to pocket me because i scare him for some reason. him not outing a read on me vocally and then slowly coming around was villagery for him, and i tend to put a lot of stake into the way people read me

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:49 pm alexa why tf r u planting seeds of doubt on me

because i have doubt on you
our reads clash a lot and i'm not sure how else to read you

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm**

I also agree LC hasn't locked himself town.

But if he hasn't locked himself town by d2/d3 that's when I'll flip. Not going to total him for half a day of not being obv

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm**

I mean the people townreading me confidently are Alexa, who I've stated we've been t/t around 10 games by now, and Illario, which pinged me but if he's actually town this game then holy shit we've made progress. Both are from my homesite and have played with me numerous times.

I believe the others were Ender and Mac? I haven't seen their reasoning but they are the ones that have played only 1 or 2 games with me. Ender I'm confident is town as I've stated before, Mac I gotta see what's going on the later the game goes.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:00 pm Greetings. My name is Transcend, and I am a dog. Man's best friend, they say. I've been assigned to help the ten of you guys find the two devilish traitors in our midst. I really hope that we have a good time in this game (https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 245&t=2182). I do have some good news! I have been given permission by him to reveal this information. I am a mason and my partner is ilario. For those of you who don't know how a masonry operates, it is a chat at night between two players that know each other to be aligned with the village. The headmaster (JaggedJimmyJay) has granted us permission to search the alignment of one (1) player before the game were even to begin. Ilario and I both decided to check our main man Brad (Lime Coke) who is quite the Chad. We decided to check him because he is very sneaky. You could fall asleep with your girl, and wake up only to find that she's sleeping in Brad's bed instead. He is much to be feared. Wanting to know for sure what his alignment is, we checked him, and we got a result of "guilty". As a result of this, we already have one mafia down. We just need to find one more. Ilario and I both had the same gut read overnight. We feel the fact that she hasn't made 300 posts before the game even began is a pretty big indicator that she might be mafia. Therefore, I told ilario that I would vote her to begin this game. Who is she, you might ask? Well, I'll reveal her identity. She's much to be feared. She made her way to the end of a mountainous game, even with a lolcatting wolf day 1 (hmmm I wonder who that could have been). She is the one, and only, alexa! Also Wiml (turtl) is town, and if anyone wants to fight me on this, they will have to fight me. And I am a dog. I chase down squirrels and cats for fun. You don't have a chance against me. I don't expect anything in return, but if you do wish to reward me, doggy treats are the most favorable option for me. However if you don't have any treats, you can just vote with me.

[VOTE: alexa] aubergine

good stuff

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm I also agree LC hasn't locked himself town.

But if he hasn't locked himself town by d2/d3 that's when I'll flip. Not going to total him for half a day of not being obv

this feels like a villagery thought as well

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:51 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:48 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 pm i agree that obviousness has not spewed out of every orifice of Lime Coke

but i still townread him
Why do you townread him?
because of the way he read me. as scum he usually just tries to pocket me because i scare him for some reason. him not outing a read on me vocally and then slowly coming around was villagery for him, and i tend to put a lot of stake into the way people read me

I see. You can be town then.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm I also agree LC hasn't locked himself town.

But if he hasn't locked himself town by d2/d3 that's when I'll flip. Not going to total him for half a day of not being obv

now this screams of agenda

screams of putting someone on the back burner to get rid of someone else

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm I also agree LC hasn't locked himself town.

But if he hasn't locked himself town by d2/d3 that's when I'll flip. Not going to total him for half a day of not being obv

That's a fine read.

Voting LC right now is a silly idea. As you can see I'm not doing it.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:54 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm maybe that just means you arent as experienced at finding town LC as you once thought? more than 2 people have outed that read on him, they cant all be scum right?
If I say "people who do X are scummy" and the number of people who do X exceeds the size of the mafia team it doesn't mean I'm wrong, it just means my POE is bigger than 2.

or it just means that the basis for ur scumread is flawed. if more than 2 people are doing it, that means no matter how you look at it undoubtely there is town doing it too, whether or not you believe i am part of that town is something else.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:54 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:39 pm townreading alison this early when she is known as the best wolf on the syndicate is sus

smh

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:54 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm I also agree LC hasn't locked himself town.

But if he hasn't locked himself town by d2/d3 that's when I'll flip. Not going to total him for half a day of not being obv
this feels like a villagery thought as well

It lessens my suspicion of him but I don't think it's actively villagery. Ender is pretty null to me right now.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:55 pm**

[VOTE: Transcend] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:55 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:54 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm I also agree LC hasn't locked himself town.

But if he hasn't locked himself town by d2/d3 that's when I'll flip. Not going to total him for half a day of not being obv
this feels like a villagery thought as well
It lessens my suspicion of him but I don't think it's actively villagery. Ender is pretty null to me right now.

On a scale of 1-10 what is Ender's scum game?

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:55 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:54 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm maybe that just means you arent as experienced at finding town LC as you once thought? more than 2 people have outed that read on him, they cant all be scum right?
If I say "people who do X are scummy" and the number of people who do X exceeds the size of the mafia team it doesn't mean I'm wrong, it just means my POE is bigger than 2.
or it just means that the basis for ur scumread is flawed. if more than 2 people are doing it, that means no matter how you look at it undoubtely there is town doing it too, whether or not you believe i am part of that town is something else.

Not true.

Suppose 3 people do it. 2 scum and 1 town. That would mean that the behavior makes you 2/3 likely to be scum when you are only 2/11 likely to be scum on average. That makes it pretty far >rand scum.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:56 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:55 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:54 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm I also agree LC hasn't locked himself town.

But if he hasn't locked himself town by d2/d3 that's when I'll flip. Not going to total him for half a day of not being obv
this feels like a villagery thought as well
It lessens my suspicion of him but I don't think it's actively villagery. Ender is pretty null to me right now.
On a scale of 1-10 what is Ender's scum game?

7.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:56 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm I also agree LC hasn't locked himself town.

But if he hasn't locked himself town by d2/d3 that's when I'll flip. Not going to total him for half a day of not being obv
now this screams of agenda

screams of putting someone on the back burner to get rid of someone else

this feels like a huge stretch of a thought

like you're making something out of something trivial/out of a reasonable thought

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:56 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm I mean the people townreading me confidently are Alexa, who I've stated we've been t/t around 10 games by now, and Illario, which pinged me but if he's actually town this game then holy shit we've made progress. Both are from my homesite and have played with me numerous times.

I believe the others were Ender and Mac? I haven't seen their reasoning but they are the ones that have played only 1 or 2 games with me. Ender I'm confident is town as I've stated before, Mac I gotta see what's going on the later the game goes.

i really dont think we made any progress since ur still very paranoid of me lol

ive been good at finding u as town since our chat mafia days, i had a rough patch during fm after u tricked me in a few games and was hesitant in dragonvale since u said u were tryharding that game, but seeing u town back to back in that game and limes matrix has given me a good idea of what your town play looks like now in FM.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:56 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:55 pm [VOTE: Transcend] aubergine

do u just not agree with me or do u sr me

u said our reads clash all the time so think about this one

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:57 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:56 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:55 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:54 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:52 pm I also agree LC hasn't locked himself town.

But if he hasn't locked himself town by d2/d3 that's when I'll flip. Not going to total him for half a day of not being obv
this feels like a villagery thought as well
It lessens my suspicion of him but I don't think it's actively villagery. Ender is pretty null to me right now.
On a scale of 1-10 what is Ender's scum game?
7.

Eh, not a total dangerous line to walk.

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:57 pm**

Anyways I’m gonna stick in my town meta and dip

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:57 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:56 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:55 pm [VOTE: Transcend] aubergine
do u just not agree with me or do u sr me

u said our reads clash all the time so think about this one

our reads do clash all the time but we've been v/w every time lol

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:58 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:57 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:56 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:55 pm [VOTE: Transcend] aubergine
do u just not agree with me or do u sr me

u said our reads clash all the time so think about this one
our reads do clash all the time but we've been v/w every time lol

so then how could u differentiate the difference between a town!trans and a scum!trans thought?

Posted: **Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:58 pm**

it's not even that i don't agree with you it's that i don't understand the thought in the first place from a town realistically scumhunting

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