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Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:03 pm
by Scotty
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:21 pm
Also, Scotty is mafia until he does his town tell multiple times. There's something that he does repeatedly & reliably as town that he NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER has done repeatedly as mafia based on my analysis of his games. So I'm waiting for the trust tell, I'm good with killing him up until that point.
Your meta of me falls apart the moment you think you have a meta on me.
You’re a three-headed lemonisnicket until you flip to prove otherwise because I just made it up
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:03 pm
by hollowkatt
[VOTE:
Scotty] aubergine
this seems like a fun place to push
Scotty why aren't you a wolf?
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:04 pm
by dunya
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:39 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:03 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:58 am
Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight
I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however
dw, I'll still kill them N1.
Dyachei is very well-educated, if you're town it would be gamethrowing to kill her regardless of her alignment.
them*
i think dya is town and marmot is town too.
i kinda wanna take back my town read on LPP (rask)
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:04 pm
by dyachei
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:01 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:51 pm
ok im caught up and I dont get why onthe cfc reads, hk
ok, syn is probably the least good reason one so I'll start there. His posts are making me laugh and I want more funny things in my life so I'm shielding him for today.
Dolby, when wolf, is more concerned with either establishing a presence in the thread, or gaining enough early town reads that he can slack off till he becomes important again. This is a pretty consistent pattern with his play. Town dolby otoh really doesn't care if he's engaged with the thread, when he wants to start throwing out reads and making more posts he will, and those posts will generally be really good.
Le Petit I've hydraed with, been in countless games together, wolfed with and against him, been town against his wolf (I think), and generally there's just a ton of history there, maybe more than anyone else in this thread. I'm not claiming to be a Le Petit god reader. I am claiming to have a lot of insight into how he's going to approach a game and I believe this to be his town game.
this makes me feel a lot better about you
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:05 pm
by dunya
dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:36 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:35 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:34 pm
marmot feels more natural here than goc
that's why marmot makes my town list.
we're agreed then
@dunya come play! I finally made it to the thread
hype! we're town together again. cov round 2, let's bring it on.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:05 pm
by hollowkatt
ngl this player list is stacked and I'm incredibly hype to be playing with y'all
for legal purposes this is a blatant blanket pocket attempt
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:06 pm
by Scotty
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:21 pm
Also, Scotty is mafia until he does his town tell multiple times. There's something that he does repeatedly & reliably as town that he NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER has done repeatedly as mafia based on my analysis of his games. So I'm waiting for the trust tell, I'm good with killing him up until that point.
Also am I following right that your read comes from the guilty baseline and I have to work to ingratiate myself to a town level?
Is that how you always make your reads in games?
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:07 pm
by dunya
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:01 pm
Le Petit I've hydraed with, been in countless games together, wolfed with and against him, been town against his wolf (I think), and generally there's just a ton of history there, maybe more than anyone else in this thread. I'm not claiming to be a Le Petit god reader. I am claiming to have a lot of insight into how he's going to approach a game and I believe this to be his town game.
i dunno, i think town rask is more aggressive and tunnels---at least that's my experience wit him when i was wolf and he wouldn't let me go ;p
he's been a bit too much "ok then" *unvotes* here for my liking.
i shall continue to observe, but thems the feels.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:08 pm
by Scotty
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:03 pm
[VOTE:
Scotty] aubergine
this seems like a fun place to push
Scotty why aren't you a wolf?
I’ve been domesticated over many millennia and I’m probably a better friend than a cat ever will be, you…feline
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:09 pm
by dyachei
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:07 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:01 pm
Le Petit I've hydraed with, been in countless games together, wolfed with and against him, been town against his wolf (I think), and generally there's just a ton of history there, maybe more than anyone else in this thread. I'm not claiming to be a Le Petit god reader. I am claiming to have a lot of insight into how he's going to approach a game and I believe this to be his town game.
i dunno, i think town rask is more aggressive and tunnels---at least that's my experience wit him when i was wolf and he wouldn't let me go ;p
he's been a bit too much "ok then" *unvotes* here for my liking.
i shall continue to observe, but thems the feels.
how often have you played with him?
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:09 pm
by dunya
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:37 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:07 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:39 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:37 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:19 pmDAMN YOU, URIST.
Yo Urist outplaying you and it's not even D1. Smh.
I'm gonna town read this and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it.
I know why you're dropping this read on him and I think your reasoning is wrong.
The read is correct though.
what's your read on urist?
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:13 pm
by Marmot
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:21 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:47 am
I toneread Urist is town. The things he is saying look unforced, and I associate more with his town meta.
Also he hasn't even mentioned mech yet, which he focused a lot of attention on as scum on Day 1 in Trash Pandas.
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:48 am
Scotty attempting to identify more towntrusts directly after a game where he was scum and attempting to shade people who should have been townie in his eyes is villagery for him.
Oof.
Mmf mpf
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:16 pm
by Marmot
Can we call le petit poissant some name like petit so that ctrl-f ING LP doesn't bring up results for LP and LPP?
Rask works too since I guess they're rask. I'll try to remember
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:17 pm
by dyachei
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:16 pm
Can we call le petit poissant some name like petit so that ctrl-f ING LP doesn't bring up results for LP and LPP?
Rask works too since I guess they're rask. I'll try to remember
oh they're rask?
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:17 pm
by Le petit poussin
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:00 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:55 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:53 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:37 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:07 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:39 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:37 pm
Yo Urist outplaying you and it's not even D1. Smh.
I'm gonna town read this and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it.
I know why you're dropping this read on him and I think your reasoning is wrong.
The read is correct though.
Whether or not it's correct, it's scum-indicative for hk
It's strictly the opposite lmao
So i'm not allowed to post reads without elaborating, but when hk does it he gets townread.

k
you do what you want lol. The difference being that I have a lot of experience with HK and none with you.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:18 pm
by Marmot
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:36 pm
like early game wolf marmot is pretty stilted, struggles to blend in and have a good time. Marmot here feels much more comfortable with their rand.
I'm always comfortable with my rand, I just fake discomfort as mafia.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:19 pm
by Le petit poussin
[VOTE:
urist] aubergine
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:19 pm
by Marmot
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:05 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:36 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:35 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:34 pm
marmot feels more natural here than goc
that's why marmot makes my town list.
we're agreed then
@dunya come play! I finally made it to the thread
hype! we're town together again. cov round 2, let's bring it on.
The poor scum team never stood a chance in RPG Mafia
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:21 pm
by Syn
Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:37 am
I unironically think that CFC gang is pure or contains at most one mafia
Jumping onto this train so late is pretty wolfy, mang.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:22 pm
by Syn
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:05 am
Has LinearPoint ever played with Syn or HK?
No, she joined after my hiatus from playing started.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:22 pm
by Syn
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:49 am
Syn has the mosts posts, but I don't townread him.
That's okay, I don't townread you either. Do you want to kiss now?
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:23 pm
by Le petit poussin
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:07 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:01 pm
Le Petit I've hydraed with, been in countless games together, wolfed with and against him, been town against his wolf (I think), and generally there's just a ton of history there, maybe more than anyone else in this thread. I'm not claiming to be a Le Petit god reader. I am claiming to have a lot of insight into how he's going to approach a game and I believe this to be his town game.
i dunno, i think town rask is more aggressive and tunnels---at least that's my experience wit him when i was wolf and he wouldn't let me go ;p
he's been a bit too much "ok then" *unvotes* here for my liking.
i shall continue to observe, but thems the feels.
but you were an obvious wolf! :wowee:
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:23 pm
by hollowkatt
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:03 pm
[VOTE:
Scotty] aubergine
this seems like a fun place to push
Scotty why aren't you a wolf?
I’ve been domesticated over many millennia and I’m probably a better friend than a cat ever will be, you…feline
correct on an evolutionary scale. But I meant this game specifically.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:23 pm
by Syn
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:58 am
Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight
I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however
This is another instance of someone jumping onto a train very late. Why are postcount reads being made twelve hours into D1? Why are multiple people trying to make that read?
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:24 pm
by Syn
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:27 pm
So my reads rn are as follows,
Town:
Syn, Dunya, Chicken, Mac.
Null (because I'm dumb): NAA, Scotty
Wolvus minorus:
LP
Wolves:
Urist, Marmot, Dolby
LP is baby wolf because that's just gut. Scotty throws off my Dolby read because that goomba has been copying my reads all game. Marmot is dependent on Urist.
I like your list, Mr. Doctor.
Actually, I'm indifferent to Urist.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:24 pm
by hollowkatt
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:18 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:36 pm
like early game wolf marmot is pretty stilted, struggles to blend in and have a good time. Marmot here feels much more comfortable with their rand.
I'm always comfortable with my rand, I just fake discomfort as mafia.
tbh this wouldn't surprise me at all. Still think you're town for it though.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:25 pm
by Syn
HK and Rask are fully in their early town metas. Pushing them is bad for the environment and subject to a carbon tax.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:26 pm
by Urist
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:04 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:39 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:03 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:58 am
Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight
I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however
dw, I'll still kill them N1.
Dyachei is very well-educated, if you're town it would be gamethrowing to kill her regardless of her alignment.
them*
i think dya is town and marmot is town too.
i kinda wanna take back my town read on LPP (rask)
Yeah i'm sorry dya but i'm probably going to make that mistake about a dozen more times. I'm trying to remember but i'm perpetually distracted while posting. Please don't think i'm doing it to be a dick.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:27 pm
by Urist
That probably doesn't read as sincere as i want it to, meh
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:27 pm
by Marmot
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:23 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:58 am
Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight
I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however
This is another instance of someone jumping onto a train very late. Why are postcount reads being made twelve hours into D1? Why are multiple people trying to make that read?
This happened in Highway Heist (as Scotty should remember) and all such targets were town.
Wilgy was hard-core POE'd like 8 hours into the say simply because he hadn't posted when everyone else had like 50+ posts
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:28 pm
by dyachei
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:26 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:04 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:39 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:03 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:58 am
Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight
I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however
dw, I'll still kill them N1.
Dyachei is very well-educated, if you're town it would be gamethrowing to kill her regardless of her alignment.
them*
i think dya is town and marmot is town too.
i kinda wanna take back my town read on LPP (rask)
Yeah i'm sorry dya but i'm probably going to make that mistake about a dozen more times. I'm trying to remember but i'm perpetually distracted while posting. Please don't think i'm doing it to be a dick.
all i ask is that people try. I didnt think you were trying to be a dick tbh
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:29 pm
by dunya
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:27 pm
That probably doesn't read as sincere as i want it to, meh
seemed sincere to me, wolfy

sorry if *I* sounded like a dick correcting you, i just saw it a few times by others too and wanted to point it out cos dya is sometimes too polite to

Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:30 pm
by Syn
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:27 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:23 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:58 am
Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight
I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however
This is another instance of someone jumping onto a train very late. Why are postcount reads being made twelve hours into D1? Why are multiple people trying to make that read?
This happened in Highway Heist (as Scotty should remember) and all such targets were town.
Wilgy was hard-core POE'd like 8 hours into the say simply because he hadn't posted when everyone else had like 50+ posts
Rask and HK are from my home community and I haven't played with them in ~6 months or more. We were the only ones in-thread. Obviously we're going to inflate our post counts by joking around. I think any postcount read right now based purely on "Well, they've posted a lot, and they didn't make a lot of reads in those posts" is lazily divorced from any and all context of the game state.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:30 pm
by Syn
Hello to specifically dya and nobody else.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:31 pm
by Syn
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:30 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:27 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:23 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:58 am
Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight
I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however
This is another instance of someone jumping onto a train very late. Why are postcount reads being made twelve hours into D1? Why are multiple people trying to make that read?
This happened in Highway Heist (as Scotty should remember) and all such targets were town.
Wilgy was hard-core POE'd like 8 hours into the say simply because he hadn't posted when everyone else had like 50+ posts
Rask and HK are from my home community and I haven't played with them in ~6 months or more. We were the only ones in-thread. Obviously we're going to inflate our post counts by joking around. I think any postcount read right now based purely on "Well, they've posted a lot, and they didn't make a lot of reads in those posts" is lazily divorced from any and all context of the game state.
It also conveniently distracts from the push on Scotty.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:31 pm
by dyachei
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:30 pm
Hello to specifically dya and nobody else.
hey syn. glad you signed up
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:32 pm
by Marmot
kisses syn on the cheek
Ok I'll push scotty
[VOTE:
Scotty] aubergine
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:32 pm
by dyachei
can someone summarize the scotty case?
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:33 pm
by Syn
Marmot is following me so I now townread him, for very good reasons that will go unmentioned and that are in no way related to him following me.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:33 pm
by Marmot
Syns recent posts are captured some of the scotty case
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:34 pm
by Scotty
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:32 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:37 amSlank* gd
Between this and calling me autistic in goc i think you need to have a conversation with your autocorrect
yea the autoerotic does what its gonna do
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:36 pm
by Marmot
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:33 pm
Marmot is following me so I now townread him, for very good reasons that will go unmentioned and that are in no way related to him following me.
One could probably argue I'm being inconsistent in voting for someone I previously townread as a result of a case made by someone I previously explicitly didn't townread, but I'll also admit that my townread of scotty was more of a choice based on his actions than a feeling, and it was probably a generous townread
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:38 pm
by Marmot
Who is chicken?
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:38 pm
by Syn
dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:32 pm
can someone summarize the scotty case?
His first post was to make a lazy other-game progression read on HK.
Since then he's supported LinearPoint's case on me and HK (which amounts to "They posted a lot and there is a difference check between them"), but then 180'd on that when other people discredited LP. (First instance of "jumping onto the train late.")
Then he quoted Dunia's reads list, which is actually contrary to his own (Dunia has HK as top town), but he says it matches his. Half an hour later he posts his updated reads, which are again, not like Dunia's.
Then he jumps late onto the train
again and pushes the "top posters are wolfy" (HK and me) lazy case, after, again, other people already have.
Then he tries to say HK has TMI that I'm town (circling back around to his initial wolf read on HK).
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:38 pm
by Scotty
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:54 pm
I’ll flip Scotty if NAA says so he has good judgment
Spoilers for Avengers Endgame:
[spoilers]screw you tony

[/spoiler]
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:38 pm
by Syn
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:38 pmWho is chicken?
Le petit poussin (the little chick). Also known as Rask or Raskol or Raskolnikov.
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:39 pm
by Scotty
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:38 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:54 pm
I’ll flip Scotty if NAA says so he has good judgment
Spoilers for Avengers Endgame:
[spoilers]screw you tony

[/spoiler]
Ah shit I fucked up
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:39 pm
by Scotty
oh ffs you’re all goblins. Don’t D1 me again please. I’m over it. Kill me D2 at least
Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:41 pm
by dunya
Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:30 pm
Hello to specifically dya and nobody else.

Re: RPG Mafia D1
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:41 pm
by Syn
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:39 pm
oh ffs you’re all goblins. Don’t D1 me again please. I’m over it. Kill me D2 at least
Do you have a wolf read besides "one of HK or Syn"?