The Syndicate

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:15 am Also, the threads were 24 hours off. Can any of you (@Alexy, @DrWilgy, @potentialsheltervet, @Cape90) tell me what was going on in the last 24 hours of your thread?

Also, how confident are you in Alexy being the last wolf in the group (given that they seem to be the consensus option)?

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:20 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:15 am Also, the threads were 24 hours off. Can any of you (@Alexy, @DrWilgy, @potentialsheltervet, @Cape90) tell me what was going on in the last 24 hours of your thread?

Also, how confident are you in Alexy being the last wolf in the group (given that they seem to be the consensus option)?

And another request for the other thread: can someone concisely list all the PRs, town and wolf, flipped and claimed, from the other thread?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).

ted claims watcher when alexy also claims watcher...

hmm

sounds to me like alexey is cleared

nobody is claiming town tracker from your thread?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:57 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).

ted claims watcher when alexy also claims watcher...

hmm

I thought the same. Likely paired. Also watcher definitely not a town-restricted role, so...

i agree with you. but in our thread, we had no doc and we also had a janitor

and the whole point of a wolf watcher is to find the doc imo

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:18 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:13 am Also, it seems the apparent disparity in the posting between the threads (if Made is to be believed) is still keeping up

Seriously, we have over 3/4 of the posts in this thread despite ted not having even shown up yet

This is unsurprising but Wilgy can solve entire games while low posting cape psv and alexy are all goated players to I don't think activity really matters when it comes to solving though I do wish there was more we've got time

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:10 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:08 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:05 am Anyways I really

Really

REALLY

Think Rondo TMId Made town and I can't get that post out of my head

what post? we can't quote but you can say the postnum.

with you in feeling skill issue, if you're town anyway.

The one where he said if Made is town we have to clear him and never push him

It's

So

Bad

mm. looked it up. did not help me as much as i hoped.

wish porscha was still around.

hi ted.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:40 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).

ted claims watcher when alexy also claims watcher...

hmm

sounds to me like alexey is cleared

nobody is claiming town tracker from your thread?

Cleared? Alexy seems to be the biggest suspicion from the other thread

i can’t catch up on everything rn, but the tl;dr of our thread was that we ran terribly the entire time

hoping you guys can carry us lol. it was so hard that i seriously considered it wasn’t possible we had 2 wolves alive there

it is very odd imo that all the roles are mirrored and leetic doesn’t have a mirrored role, not only that, but he’s also claimed 3 shots instead of the seeming 2 shots

but we’ll have to see later

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:47 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:40 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).

ted claims watcher when alexy also claims watcher...

hmm

sounds to me like alexey is cleared

nobody is claiming town tracker from your thread?

Cleared? Alexy seems to be the biggest suspicion from the other thread

aren’t the roles mirrored?

they said they had longcon as wwa’s role, alexey as my role

if anything you’re the one that looks bad, but idk how wolfy alexey has been here to really hammer the mech spec in

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:49 am i can’t catch up on everything rn, but the tl;dr of our thread was that we ran terribly the entire time

hoping you guys can carry us lol. it was so hard that i seriously considered it wasn’t possible we had 2 wolves alive there

it is very odd imo that all the roles are mirrored and leetic doesn’t have a mirrored role, not only that, but he’s also claimed 3 shots instead of the seeming 2 shots

but we’ll have to see later

Number one, what do you mean "mirrored", number two a three-shot role flipped in the other thread

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:50 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:47 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:40 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).

ted claims watcher when alexy also claims watcher...

hmm

sounds to me like alexey is cleared

nobody is claiming town tracker from your thread?

Cleared? Alexy seems to be the biggest suspicion from the other thread

aren’t the roles mirrored?

they said they had longcon as wwa’s role, alexey as my role

if anything you’re the one that looks bad, but idk how wolfy alexey has been here to really hammer the mech spec in

their thread had jack+darling confirmed masons, ours had nothing of the sort.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:50 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:47 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:40 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).

ted claims watcher when alexy also claims watcher...

hmm

sounds to me like alexey is cleared

nobody is claiming town tracker from your thread?

Cleared? Alexy seems to be the biggest suspicion from the other thread

aren’t the roles mirrored?

they said they had longcon as wwa’s role, alexey as my role

if anything you’re the one that looks bad, but idk how wolfy alexey has been here to really hammer the mech spec in

The only pairings that aren't certain are that you and I are paired with Wilgy or Cape, every other pairing is known. Why do you think the watcher claim has any significance to that when they're not your partner?

It is odd that both Wilgy and Cape claimed no secret vote when if that was working under the same rules as our thread at least one should have had one

because if wolves are aware we’d joint threads, it’s a terrible claim to make

though we don’t know that wolves know that


when has alexey claimed his role?

I will say that tedxtr has been carried to this point in the game solely off of his PR claim. Said it would be self-resolving; I seem to have been wrong.

if rondo’s a wolf im spewed clear tho, best pray for that

and overnight i was p confident gira was also a villa and was really confident going into lunchlo, but oh well

the entire poe voted for made fmpov, so rondo looks bad

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:56 am if rondo’s a wolf im spewed clear tho, best pray for that

and overnight i was p confident gira was also a villa and was really confident going into lunchlo, but oh well

the entire poe voted for made fmpov, so rondo looks bad

where's your head at exactly?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:47 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:10 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:08 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:05 am Anyways I really

Really

REALLY

Think Rondo TMId Made town and I can't get that post out of my head

what post? we can't quote but you can say the postnum.

with you in feeling skill issue, if you're town anyway.

The one where he said if Made is town we have to clear him and never push him

It's

So

Bad

mm. looked it up. did not help me as much as i hoped.

wish porscha was still around.

hi ted.

i've definitely mucked this game up. sorry for that.

things are not as bad as they look though.

abi/ted/rondo if you're around, i need y'all to work with me and solve in worlds where i am town.

abi/ted both say rondo. abi thinks rondo/ran, ted thinks rondo/?, leetic is on rondo/abi.

rondo says ??? possibly me?

this is the current state of things as i understand it.

at least one of abi/ted/rondo is also town. my job today is to find them. (probably only one, i was holding out hope for scenarios where bereft was a wolf and 2 wolves dead in both threads triggered the merge but realistically it's more likely 3p shenanigans.)

So to the group of abi/ted/rondo: who do you townread out of that group and why?

@☆Princess Abigail☆ @tedxtr @RondoDimBuckle so above is seen

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:11 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:56 am if rondo’s a wolf im spewed clear tho, best pray for that

and overnight i was p confident gira was also a villa and was really confident going into lunchlo, but oh well

the entire poe voted for made fmpov, so rondo looks bad

where's your head at exactly?

i really have no clue, but it’s safe to say i don’t villa read any of you atp

i wonder if the good strat is to lunch in this thread and follow the people here since they’re probably doing at least 3x better than we are

it’d also be pretty meh if the threads are jointed at lunchlo, would be pretty brutal on the village

idk how you can not tinfoil leetic here

it’s hard to village read him as hard when the game just felt like we were misclearing the wolves galore

that EoD made dying was p lol, the entire poe voted there.

you have to be aware that yesterday i was being asked by made if i were willing to vote gira, and i said i’d vote abi way before i’d do gira

and also i said killing made was a mistake

which is putting me closer to be in a bussing position (because i eliminated gira as a voting option as long as abi is alive and wouldn’t have voted made) where the wolves skated with ease.

you could argue that made was dying, which is true, but i still didn’t need to say those things to set me up then on bussing

if any of this makes sense

all this + us having a janitor pretty clearly proves my role

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:39 am i've definitely mucked this game up. sorry for that.

things are not as bad as they look though.

abi/ted/rondo if you're around, i need y'all to work with me and solve in worlds where i am town.

abi/ted both say rondo. abi thinks rondo/ran, ted thinks rondo/?, leetic is on rondo/abi.

rondo says ??? possibly me?

this is the current state of things as i understand it.

at least one of abi/ted/rondo is also town. my job today is to find them. (probably only one, i was holding out hope for scenarios where bereft was a wolf and 2 wolves dead in both threads triggered the merge but realistically it's more likely 3p shenanigans.)

So to the group of abi/ted/rondo: who do you townread out of that group and why?

I'm listening

I townread nobody in that group tbh lol

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:02 am I townread nobody in that group tbh lol

not even yourself
the proest of strats

Ted is only towny because of a pr claim that seems insanely scum sided and his claims are conveniently unverifiable.

Rondo just...I can't get over their play yesterday.

You are probably the person I'm most likely to town read in the group of you ted Rondo

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:04 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:02 am I townread nobody in that group tbh lol

not even yourself
the proest of strats

Tbh... I'm not sure I'd town read myself like objectively even though I keep saying I'm obv town

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:12 am ted is definitely in the PoE by now though, and he seriously needs to show up.

sorry bro i forgot we’re all meant to be american

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:04 am Ted is only towny because of a pr claim that seems insanely scum sided and his claims are conveniently unverifiable.

Rondo just...I can't get over their play yesterday.

You are probably the person I'm most likely to town read in the group of you ted Rondo

very convenient of me that the village rber rb’d me for no reason n1, agreed

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:06 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:04 am Ted is only towny because of a pr claim that seems insanely scum sided and his claims are conveniently unverifiable.

Rondo just...I can't get over their play yesterday.

You are probably the person I'm most likely to town read in the group of you ted Rondo

very convenient of me that the village rber rb’d me for no reason n1, agreed

It's statements like these that make me feel like your just never town lol

did the joint happen after you guys (other thread) have lunched the second wolf?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:07 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:06 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:04 am Ted is only towny because of a pr claim that seems insanely scum sided and his claims are conveniently unverifiable.

Rondo just...I can't get over their play yesterday.

You are probably the person I'm most likely to town read in the group of you ted Rondo

very convenient of me that the village rber rb’d me for no reason n1, agreed

It's statements like these that make me feel like your just never town lol

why tho? i love being sarcastic and your arguments make no sense

“It’s convenient” what is convenient? that i said i visited the nks when i could’ve lied? when i claimed unprompted like 24h before eod? what type of wolf does this shit

and the janitor is a direct indication why my role would be

1) real
2) village

you are just ignoring the evidence. it’s not my fault

regarding the leetic post i’d just quoted, i’d argue we’d need to show less, if anything. Do more reading, speak less

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:09 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:07 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:06 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:04 am Ted is only towny because of a pr claim that seems insanely scum sided and his claims are conveniently unverifiable.

Rondo just...I can't get over their play yesterday.

You are probably the person I'm most likely to town read in the group of you ted Rondo

very convenient of me that the village rber rb’d me for no reason n1, agreed

It's statements like these that make me feel like your just never town lol

why tho? i love being sarcastic and your arguments make no sense

“It’s convenient” what is convenient? that i said i visited the nks when i could’ve lied? when i claimed unprompted like 24h before eod? what type of wolf does this shit

and the janitor is a direct indication why my role would be

1) real
2) village

you are just ignoring the evidence. it’s not my fault

If you don't understand how your claim being wholly unverifiable is convient and something wolfs often do to cover up their claim I have to assume your being intentionally dense

Your role also makes no sense lol

if nothing makes sense about my claim, how come you’re not pushing me?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:16 am if nothing makes sense about my claim, how come you’re not pushing me?

tbf i don't think a lot of the claim talk makes sense either. I've been letting it go for reasons and because we don't know what happened with Bereft and I thought ted townslipped yesterday but. it may be time to dig into it. can you lay out for the class from your perspective what you believe has happened, and why you claim it clears you?

idk if i said it's clearing, it's hard to clear

but basically, the wolves have used their janitor shot only after i've outed that my utility is spent, which should at least on paper look good

and again, i agree wolf watcher is a role, but it's usually meant to weed out doctors. it'd make more sense to have a villa watcher and a wolf janitor than a wolf janitor and wolf watcher

ymmv

not only that, but remember i've claimed when there was no seeming reason to do so

i guess, for whatever reason, there's a chance bereft was a 3p that doesn't reveal upon flip and wolves don't actually have a janitor, but it's just extremely lol for it to be the case

at least fmpov i had no idea why tf my role would be a thing, but when bereft came up as janitored it instantly clicked for me that yes, my role would indeed have utility if there's a wolf janitor. so im much more likely to believe he was janitored

hope that answered your question cuz im not sure what you were asking lol

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:21 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:03 pm Fascinating. Hello folks, how was the other side of things?

Wilgy my beloved!!

Hello dear friend, it is always a pleasure to see you. I look to your guidance for sorting who the wolf(s) from your subspace bubble are.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:15 am Also, the threads were 24 hours off. Can any of you (@Alexy, @DrWilgy, @potentialsheltervet, @Cape90) tell me what was going on in the last 24 hours of your thread?

Being perfectly honest, as far as I was aware the last 24 hours the thread was pretty calm. PSV and Alexy weren't in thread until the final 30 min before EoD. Pretty much all the Brad Voters had placed their vote pretty early in and discussion settled down.

There was afew attempts to get Brad to defend themselves or speak to their wolfy posts, but besides that I remember little of import.

@Cape90 was around, and may be more keen to smaller details that I glazed as non important.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:52 am i guess, for whatever reason, there's a chance bereft was a 3p that doesn't reveal upon flip and wolves don't actually have a janitor, but it's just extremely lol for it to be the case

at least fmpov i had no idea why tf my role would be a thing, but when bereft came up as janitored it instantly clicked for me that yes, my role would indeed have utility if there's a wolf janitor. so im much more likely to believe he was janitored

hope that answered your question cuz im not sure what you were asking lol

it... answers enough for now, yeah, thanks.

Morning Jack is here, we're chatting. He is of the opinions that:

A. Rondo is a wolf

and B. of the innie/work thread, everything has proceeded according to his view of the game so far, Alexy is suspicious and Cape/Wilgy/PSV all look very good in his eyes.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:11 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:21 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:03 pm Fascinating. Hello folks, how was the other side of things?

Wilgy my beloved!!

Hello dear friend, it is always a pleasure to see you. I look to your guidance for sorting who the wolf(s) from your subspace bubble are.

Rondo and someone

Protect me from the meanies Wilgy

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:16 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:15 am Also, the threads were 24 hours off. Can any of you (@Alexy, @DrWilgy, @potentialsheltervet, @Cape90) tell me what was going on in the last 24 hours of your thread?

Being perfectly honest, as far as I was aware the last 24 hours the thread was pretty calm. PSV and Alexy weren't in thread until the final 30 min before EoD. Pretty much all the Brad Voters had placed their vote pretty early in and discussion settled down.

There was afew attempts to get Brad to defend themselves or speak to their wolfy posts, but besides that I remember little of import.

@Cape90 was around, and may be more keen to smaller details that I glazed as non important.

If the Brad lynch was truly the last thing that happened, then maybe that thread had two nights in a row which would explain the extra death? Although that doesn't answer where Scotty's death fits chronologically

Also when were you made aware that the threads would be merging?

The issue with RDB is that they're still hard to pair with anyone in the POE.

Wow, this thread is dead. Guess I should get working on something huh

Here to catch up

Will be more active later on today but wanna see wazzup

Alright, here's the final D4 wagons:

RondoDimBuckle: tedxtr, Made, Gira
Made: ☆Princess Abigail☆, RondoDimBuckle, leetic, Ranmilia

Working backward:

8:59 EST: Abby votes Made
8:57 EST: Ranmilia votes Made
8:57 EST: Made votes RDB
8:56 EST: Gira votes RDB
8:55 EST: Abby votes RDB
8:49 EST: Made votes no lynch
8:30 EST: Made votes Gira
8:15 EST: Ranmilia votes Gira
8:09 EST: Made votes RDB
7:49 EST: Made votes Abby

That's every vote change in the last two hours. Here's the last votes of the people who were static:

5:51 EST: RDB votes Made
5:47 EST: leetic votes Made
1:11 EST 11/24: ted votes RDB

And here's the last time everyone posted:

RDB: 5:55 EST
Made: 8:59 EST
Gira: 9:01 EST
leetic: 9:01 EST
Abby: 8:59 EST
Ranmilia: 8:57 EST
ted: 8:04 EST

All times are PM and on 11/25 unless otherwise specified.

Notably, before Ranmilia switched to Made the wagons (if my calculations are correct) were Made 2 (+1 shadow vote), RDB 4, Gira 1. Ranmilia's switch from Gira caused a tie, while Abby's switch back broke it.