Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I explained why falcon is town and I'm just correct take the LWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:56 pmnutella is one of themAlison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:50 pmOther 2 or other 3? You said 4 total, so minus me, that's 3 moreWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:45 pmI didn't want them to literally towncase themselves. I want them to show it by just doing their thing and posting. I find people when they show with their actions and words that they're town, not when they give a whole bullshit towncase on themselves. Because frankly, even if I'm town, if I towncase myself it is complete bullshit lol.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:41 pmconsidering that you started off with "there's 4 people in this thread I would happily vote and they need to convince me that they are town"... you seem perfectly happy to accept the idea that players can and should towncase themselves early on lolWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:38 pm why would i waste my energy towncasing myself? it's the start of D1, what the fuck am i supposed to say? "hey guys i'm town" is the dumbest shit ever and I refuse to do that.
if you're town, go make other reads and draw your own conclusions. if you're scum and my reads are wrong i'm not going to do the work for you.
and yeah I'm talking about other reads, like #42 is all about sabi... it's not like you're the only person I've been focused on in this thread, whereas as far as I can tell, pretty much 100% of your substantive content in this thread has been about me.
The other 2 people in my scumreads haven't posted in this thread yet, and neither has nutella, so yeah I am entirely focused on you right now. I'm not dead set on all of my scumreads being lockscum, but I need a starting point to hunt and I have that. The best way to read a player is to engage directly with them imo.
Why is nutella significant?
then there are 2 more
and nutella is significant because i think her handling of falcon was weird
when i said that falcon and guillo weren't partnered, i had a more specific thought that guillo was towny, but i initially thought falcon was scummy off his opener. but when there was the whole back-and-forth regarding sabi's opener, falcon and guillo were clashing, so instead of giving individual reads on them i said i'm reading them as unpaired. which to me makes perfect sense because i scumread one and townread the other at the time.
that being said, by the time i came back to the thread, people were correcting me and saying that falcon always opens with "i am town" every time and it's not alignment-indicative, which, ok, fine. but nutella said falcon should be townread off his interaction and that instead of saying he's unpaired with guillo, i should call falcon town. and i don't particularly think falcon is towny so I want to press nutella first to see if it's tmi or if she's defending her partner. either way i don't think it came across as natural.
Her push on you is trash but Wind feels like a hit. I don't think alison has all good reads here but like, broken clocks
I rolled four nat 20s and 5 crits lolRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:47 pmok I will nat 20 you and you nat 1 me in bts and hopefully we break the gameNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:45 pmYes <3RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:28 pmDnD for me wanna TTRPG mason?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:11 pm I'm playing pathfinder tonight but I'll be vaguely around tomorrow
I mean idk I did dip off like almost right away after that lolLemonfairy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:55 pm you could have used something more legit-sounding like "oh I have irl matters to attend to" (which would've been NAI btw because that's valid too)
just the idc attitude + not actually dipping off ig
I don't even think it's a thin reason lol. I have seen him do well as scum. The way he instantly got involved in a complex player interaction here was just townyAlison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:07 pmWas she in that game too?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:06 pmit's a sucky read because i saw him coast as scum in a game when people kept dismissing him as "in his town meta" when apparently he was not
If not why would you think that nutella is maliciously deceiving you rather than being one of the apparently many people who are wont to dismiss falcon as being in his town meta for thin reasons?
ok these posts about getting mislunched are slightly more >rand town i think. Maybe sabi is right I'll sleep on itWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:16 pmnot particularlyGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:13 pmDo you townread Alison?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:31 pmcool, waste your vote then, that's greatAlison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:30 pmso I can vote you but you don't have the stones to vote me back? great deal for me, never taking my vote off then!WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:27 pm do you see me voting you? no. do i give a shit? yes, as far as that you're picking the wrong player to push. if you think you can get a mislunch on me, then good luck i guess.
i'm not dead set on scumreading her, though, I'm trying to understand her thought process which is why i'm talking to her about falcon and nutella
but hell if i care whether scum wastes their vote
i honestly don't know if i care whether town wastes their vote on me or not, sometimes i just stop giving a shit and decide it's better for people to flip me early so they stop trying to preflip me as scum, since that tends to result in a ton of bad reads if i remain alive
Neither I think, just a mechanic borrowed from the severance gameGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:22 pmWelcome to the club.
This has to be an action from the mafia
If this was from town im gonna be loyally pissed.
....WhatGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:29 pmThat said, these two are either w/w or t/t, never a difference check.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:31 pmprobably cuz I caught your whole team LOLWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:29 pmwhy would i as scum bother killing you? you actually think you're that relevant?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:26 pmshe probs has an NK priority list in scum chat with me at the topRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:25 pmThis implies the existence of a vote list, instead its just "go read my iso to find out who I find scummy" there is no list. Just thought you should knowWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine
full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.
might be what she was thinking of
unless you're claiming mafia and not teamed with any of my other suspects?
I still lean town on him atm I think. I've liked a decent amount of his contributions and that is kind of what feels off but atm think he's just actually genuine
Follow that urge!Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:09 pm I have an unexplainable urge to throw radishes into town lean for no reason
Falcon was once the Syndicate's leader in wolf wins for the calendar year.
No claiming etc used to be the norm on Syndicate, if I recall correctly.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:01 pmAgreed.
What is the fucking point of limiting us this way?
I read that. What's your own thoughts?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:03 pm Sharing some of Space Daisy's thoughts in here. The jist of it below
Game of Champions XIII [Night 0] #627
Slight town on Guillo and nut for content in their posts
Slight town on WWA and Sabi for nebulous vibes reasons
Wary of Michelle
Null on Caitlin, Abi, Alison
Mikami - Rico
Such as?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:00 am Can we trade a couple of our players for the West's players?
Well I'd love to see Sloonei. I don't want to name names of who I'd trade though.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:15 amSuch as?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:00 am Can we trade a couple of our players for the West's players?
I guess we gotta switch because I rolled like ass. Used all my lucky points for worse rolls when it was a 3/4 to roll betterNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:22 amI rolled four nat 20s and 5 crits lolRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:47 pmok I will nat 20 you and you nat 1 me in bts and hopefully we break the gameNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:45 pmYes <3RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:28 pmDnD for me wanna TTRPG mason?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:11 pm I'm playing pathfinder tonight but I'll be vaguely around tomorrow
You can see both threads?Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:14 amI read that. What's your own thoughts?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:03 pm Sharing some of Space Daisy's thoughts in here. The jist of it below
Game of Champions XIII [Night 0] #627
Slight town on Guillo and nut for content in their posts
Slight town on WWA and Sabi for nebulous vibes reasons
Wary of Michelle
Null on Caitlin, Abi, Alison
Mikami - Rico
That post is so generic that I didn't even put much weight into it as representing real reads.
Unfortunately we are now in separate threads and I don't know if I can read the other thread today to make a read on Daisy.
Now that you said this I looked and I can't.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:31 amYou can see both threads?Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:14 amI read that. What's your own thoughts?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:03 pm Sharing some of Space Daisy's thoughts in here. The jist of it below
Game of Champions XIII [Night 0] #627
Slight town on Guillo and nut for content in their posts
Slight town on WWA and Sabi for nebulous vibes reasons
Wary of Michelle
Null on Caitlin, Abi, Alison
Mikami - Rico
That post is so generic that I didn't even put much weight into it as representing real reads.
Unfortunately we are now in separate threads and I don't know if I can read the other thread today to make a read on Daisy.
I want more from you. Tyt but let's share impressions hopefully next time we are together here.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:10 pmIf we town lock Tony for this post, the game is 1/30 easierTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:11 pm Anyways I’m town so I’m going to forget about the game and then come back on day 2 and be wrong about everything
This is my contribution to society
I am going to consider this a slip and retreatMichelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:03 amNow that you said this I looked and I can't.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:31 amYou can see both threads?Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:14 amI read that. What's your own thoughts?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:03 pm Sharing some of Space Daisy's thoughts in here. The jist of it below
Game of Champions XIII [Night 0] #627
Slight town on Guillo and nut for content in their posts
Slight town on WWA and Sabi for nebulous vibes reasons
Wary of Michelle
Null on Caitlin, Abi, Alison
Mikami - Rico
That post is so generic that I didn't even put much weight into it as representing real reads.
Unfortunately we are now in separate threads and I don't know if I can read the other thread today to make a read on Daisy.
I just considered we should see it but I was wrong.
I'm going to enjoy RL for the rest of the day. I'll be back before going to sleep though.
I, on the other hand, went first in an encounter...crit twice and caused persistent bleed damage, the main enemy went second, and surrendered after taking their bleed damage.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:28 amI guess we gotta switch because I rolled like ass. Used all my lucky points for worse rolls when it was a 3/4 to roll betterNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:22 amI rolled four nat 20s and 5 crits lolRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:47 pmok I will nat 20 you and you nat 1 me in bts and hopefully we break the gameNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:45 pmYes <3RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:28 pmDnD for me wanna TTRPG mason?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:11 pm I'm playing pathfinder tonight but I'll be vaguely around tomorrow
coming up with penalties and then having to actually use them is no fun for you or us. We are all super smart, successful Mafia champions (you have to be smart to play this game!). We can figure this out. It also used to be the norm on syndicate that dead people cant get a win even if their faction doesMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:08 amNo claiming etc used to be the norm on Syndicate, if I recall correctly.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:01 pmAgreed.
What is the fucking point of limiting us this way?
I like it tbh.
Was there a specific post of Falcon's that you are referring to? I've skimmed the slot and didn't get see a townspew post of theirs.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:33 amI don't even think it's a thin reason lol. I have seen him do well as scum. The way he instantly got involved in a complex player interaction here was just townyAlison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:07 pmWas she in that game too?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:06 pmit's a sucky read because i saw him coast as scum in a game when people kept dismissing him as "in his town meta" when apparently he was not
If not why would you think that nutella is maliciously deceiving you rather than being one of the apparently many people who are wont to dismiss falcon as being in his town meta for thin reasons?
Yah! This is town Michelle! Thank god because the split sort of killed my motivation to play the game, what a terrible idea that was, but im glad i can form a towncore here.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:09 am I had these posts quoted and I like the fact I could quote from the N0 in this thread, unfortunately I can't pick more (that's a cool feature, multiquote should exist after the thread is locked)
The grumpy bitches club made me chuckle.
I didn't expect Wind to be there, but the way of posting confirms it.
This club gives me warm feelings.I don't know why Sloonei had so little to say about the game at the time. Unfortunately he's in the other half of the game and we can't really interact.
Hmmm no, i disagree. I think they are both town or both scum.
I didagree with your falcon meta read, to the point it is very strange from you to have that meta read on Falcon, hence my vote on you, you are lying.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:19 amI explained why falcon is town and I'm just correct take the LWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:56 pmnutella is one of themAlison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:50 pmOther 2 or other 3? You said 4 total, so minus me, that's 3 moreWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:45 pmI didn't want them to literally towncase themselves. I want them to show it by just doing their thing and posting. I find people when they show with their actions and words that they're town, not when they give a whole bullshit towncase on themselves. Because frankly, even if I'm town, if I towncase myself it is complete bullshit lol.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:41 pmconsidering that you started off with "there's 4 people in this thread I would happily vote and they need to convince me that they are town"... you seem perfectly happy to accept the idea that players can and should towncase themselves early on lolWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:38 pm why would i waste my energy towncasing myself? it's the start of D1, what the fuck am i supposed to say? "hey guys i'm town" is the dumbest shit ever and I refuse to do that.
if you're town, go make other reads and draw your own conclusions. if you're scum and my reads are wrong i'm not going to do the work for you.
and yeah I'm talking about other reads, like #42 is all about sabi... it's not like you're the only person I've been focused on in this thread, whereas as far as I can tell, pretty much 100% of your substantive content in this thread has been about me.
The other 2 people in my scumreads haven't posted in this thread yet, and neither has nutella, so yeah I am entirely focused on you right now. I'm not dead set on all of my scumreads being lockscum, but I need a starting point to hunt and I have that. The best way to read a player is to engage directly with them imo.
Why is nutella significant?
then there are 2 more
and nutella is significant because i think her handling of falcon was weird
when i said that falcon and guillo weren't partnered, i had a more specific thought that guillo was towny, but i initially thought falcon was scummy off his opener. but when there was the whole back-and-forth regarding sabi's opener, falcon and guillo were clashing, so instead of giving individual reads on them i said i'm reading them as unpaired. which to me makes perfect sense because i scumread one and townread the other at the time.
that being said, by the time i came back to the thread, people were correcting me and saying that falcon always opens with "i am town" every time and it's not alignment-indicative, which, ok, fine. but nutella said falcon should be townread off his interaction and that instead of saying he's unpaired with guillo, i should call falcon town. and i don't particularly think falcon is towny so I want to press nutella first to see if it's tmi or if she's defending her partner. either way i don't think it came across as natural.
Ive seen them do it as scum, here, in this very forumnutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:33 amI don't even think it's a thin reason lol. I have seen him do well as scum. The way he instantly got involved in a complex player interaction here was just townyAlison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:07 pmWas she in that game too?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:06 pmit's a sucky read because i saw him coast as scum in a game when people kept dismissing him as "in his town meta" when apparently he was not
If not why would you think that nutella is maliciously deceiving you rather than being one of the apparently many people who are wont to dismiss falcon as being in his town meta for thin reasons?
What part didnt you understand? I think it is a very well written English sentence, so it cant be that.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:52 am....WhatGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:29 pmThat said, these two are either w/w or t/t, never a difference check.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:31 pmprobably cuz I caught your whole team LOLWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:29 pmwhy would i as scum bother killing you? you actually think you're that relevant?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:26 pmshe probs has an NK priority list in scum chat with me at the topRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:25 pmThis implies the existence of a vote list, instead its just "go read my iso to find out who I find scummy" there is no list. Just thought you should knowWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine
full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.
might be what she was thinking of
unless you're claiming mafia and not teamed with any of my other suspects?
Oh fuck! No, why you? =(Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:14 amI read that. What's your own thoughts?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:03 pm Sharing some of Space Daisy's thoughts in here. The jist of it below
Game of Champions XIII [Night 0] #627
Slight town on Guillo and nut for content in their posts
Slight town on WWA and Sabi for nebulous vibes reasons
Wary of Michelle
Null on Caitlin, Abi, Alison
Mikami - Rico
That post is so generic that I didn't even put much weight into it as representing real reads.
Unfortunately we are now in separate threads and I don't know if I can read the other thread today to make a read on Daisy.
Why is your only teeter to the game based off nutella
