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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:36 pm
by S~V~S
What difference does it make where it was played?

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:37 pm
by Epignosis
I'm sorry- your comment about finding a bad guy day one is just absurd. When you find a bad guy day 1, that is time for rejoicing. You get information AND you net a kill. That remark makes no sense to me.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:39 pm
by Mongoose
S~V~S wrote:What difference does it make where it was played?
I just figured more people would have been in the game in question and would have firsthand knowledge thereof instead of just taking my word for it.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:41 pm
by Mongoose
Epignosis wrote:I'm sorry- your comment about finding a bad guy day one is just absurd. When you find a bad guy day 1, that is time for rejoicing. You get information AND you net a kill. That remark makes no sense to me.
I never said it was bad, per se. Just that there is a big upside to not having a lynch at all. IT's not that I was saying there was a brightside to a civ lynch, but the upside. I think the information from a baddie lynch on day 1 can be somewhat dubious. It's really easy to lose focus.

Has no one else in this entire game seen a Day 1 Baddie Lynch turn the game into a temporary tempest / poopstorm/clusterhump that would like to sit on the couch and share the experience.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:44 pm
by kneel4justice
So are these the type of things (Mongoose's comment) generally considered evidence?

I didn't really understand, but I just figured it's another thing that I just view differently, but now I am seeing others find her comment suspicious. I mean, it is weird for someone to kind of negatively paint the idea of catching a scum, but who in the world would do that as scum?! Is Mongoose usually more careful than this as scum?

Mongoose is the current game at KSITE one that you would categorize under this idea you've brought up?

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:47 pm
by Epignosis
kneel4justice wrote:So are these the type of things (Mongoose's comment) generally considered evidence?

I didn't really understand, but I just figured it's another thing that I just view differently, but now I am seeing others find her comment suspicious. I mean, it is weird for someone to kind of negatively paint the idea of catching a scum, but who in the world would do that as scum?! Is Mongoose usually more careful than this as scum?

Mongoose is the current game at KSITE one that you would categorize under this idea you've brought up?
Whatever the case, it's between you and her, sister. :mafia:

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:49 pm
by kneel4justice
Epignosis wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:So are these the type of things (Mongoose's comment) generally considered evidence?

I didn't really understand, but I just figured it's another thing that I just view differently, but now I am seeing others find her comment suspicious. I mean, it is weird for someone to kind of negatively paint the idea of catching a scum, but who in the world would do that as scum?! Is Mongoose usually more careful than this as scum?

Mongoose is the current game at KSITE one that you would categorize under this idea you've brought up?
Whatever the case, it's between you and her, sister. :mafia:
Whatever.
I'm a guy.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:49 pm
by Mongoose
And we can agree to disagree. This is philosophy and something I take from game to game. It's not limited to this specific game or something I just started espousing. Let's not get my alignment mixed into this or we will all be sad pandas.

There have been a lot of quiet Quincys here today. I'm trying to contribute, even if you find my opinions intrinsically flawed.

linki Guru

That's why I only gave one example as evidence and invited others to correct me if I was recollecting it incorrectly or coloring it with my paintbrush too heavily.

I've said this historically, and that scenario didn't even happen here. It's just an upside, not a preference. I'd always prefer a baddie kill over anything else.

And yes, I think we did get a baddie on Day 1 of that game, didn't we? It was a bit hurly-burly for a while afterward.

I may have been counting Minimalism too, which doesn't really count since it ended after Day 1.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:53 pm
by Epignosis
kneel4justice wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:So are these the type of things (Mongoose's comment) generally considered evidence?

I didn't really understand, but I just figured it's another thing that I just view differently, but now I am seeing others find her comment suspicious. I mean, it is weird for someone to kind of negatively paint the idea of catching a scum, but who in the world would do that as scum?! Is Mongoose usually more careful than this as scum?

Mongoose is the current game at KSITE one that you would categorize under this idea you've brought up?
Whatever the case, it's between you and her, sister. :mafia:
Whatever.
I'm a guy.
I was talking to Nicki Minaj.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:53 pm
by kneel4justice
Mongoose wrote:And we can agree to disagree. This is philosophy and something I take from game to game. It's not limited to this specific game or something I just started espousing. Let's not get my alignment mixed into this or we will all be sad pandas.

There have been a lot of quiet Quincys here today. I'm trying to contribute, even if you find my opinions intrinsically flawed.

linki Guru

That's why I only gave one example as evidence and invited others to correct me if I was recollecting it incorrectly or coloring it with my paintbrush too heavily.

I've said this historically, and that scenario didn't even happen here. It's just an upside, not a preference. I'd always prefer a baddie kill over anything else.

And yes, I think we did get a baddie on Day 1 of that game, didn't we? It was a bit hurly-burly for a while afterward.

I may have been counting Minimalism too, which doesn't really count since it ended after Day 1.
Oh actually, it was Day 2 but the first lynch. And after that, only town lynches followed, so that's what I was trying to understand if you meant that by chaos, or whatever.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:53 pm
by Draconus
FZ. wrote:
Dom wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Ok. ksiters, slow down a bit on your MP suspicions and give him a chance to show his play style. He gets lynched A LOT as a civ because of his aggressive mannerisms and I'd hate to lose a potentially valuable civ this early because new people aren't used to him. If you find my defense of him suspicious, go ahead vote for me and see where that gets you :feb:

But as I said before, if nothing else catches my :eye: then I'm going to vote MP just to piss him off. I see I've already caught his GF's attention :p ;)
This.


Although, I find the discussions about the differences in culture interesting, I find them very unnecessary to this game in particular. :p I'm going to be looking at those perseverating on the cultural differences.

The thread is moving quickly and I'm singed up for a goal of like 5 games, so bear with me :p
I was thinking the exact same thing as the bolded
I can't see when you bold stuff for some reason, so when you make points about certain... mmmm... Points... the POInT is lost on me...
Could you try using a color instead of bolding??

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:55 pm
by kneel4justice
Epignosis wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:So are these the type of things (Mongoose's comment) generally considered evidence?

I didn't really understand, but I just figured it's another thing that I just view differently, but now I am seeing others find her comment suspicious. I mean, it is weird for someone to kind of negatively paint the idea of catching a scum, but who in the world would do that as scum?! Is Mongoose usually more careful than this as scum?

Mongoose is the current game at KSITE one that you would categorize under this idea you've brought up?
Whatever the case, it's between you and her, sister. :mafia:
Whatever.
I'm a guy.
I was talking to Nicki Minaj.
Well if you end up voting her, I may have to ask my mafia to kill you.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:55 pm
by Mister Rearranger
Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I feel like when we do lynch a baddie on Day 1, it nearly always spirals the game out of control for days on end. Day 1 is nearly always lose/lose/lose situation. I guess it's about mitigating the damage more than anything.

I get what Llama's saying about the lynch being the tool of the civs, but I can't help thinking it's bought all the civs another day to get sealegs.
Home girl, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say.

First, how often is it that a bad person is lynched Day 1?

Second, how many of those games have you been in?

Third, what does "spirals...our of control for days on end" mean?
Why didn't you vote asap like you originally claimed you would?

Change of mind?

Change of heart?

Change of strategy?

Changing the tap?

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:56 pm
by Epignosis
Mister Rearranger wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I feel like when we do lynch a baddie on Day 1, it nearly always spirals the game out of control for days on end. Day 1 is nearly always lose/lose/lose situation. I guess it's about mitigating the damage more than anything.

I get what Llama's saying about the lynch being the tool of the civs, but I can't help thinking it's bought all the civs another day to get sealegs.
Home girl, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say.

First, how often is it that a bad person is lynched Day 1?

Second, how many of those games have you been in?

Third, what does "spirals...our of control for days on end" mean?
Why didn't you vote asap like you originally claimed you would?

Change of mind?

Change of heart?

Change of strategy?

Changing the tap?
Vote for whom?

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:57 pm
by Mongoose
Definitely. I'm not sure if it was typical for a Ksite game, but it exploded with allegations and finger-pointing and reversals etc. but then we hit our stride. Sometimes I think it's luck that nets us a baddie and that's why I think the information can be dubious.

Linki Dev - I can't see the bolding either, so that would be appreciated, thanks!

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:58 pm
by Draconus
Matahari wrote:I have a question for the ksiters. We used to play the aggressive day 1&2 thing at Stv too, but we almost always wound up lynching civvies. Then, the people who led the lynches would get lynched the next day, and most always, they were civvies too. It was awfully predictable, and eventually, people started slowing down in their scum-hunting a bit. My question is how successful are you guys at getting scum lynched on day 1?
That was my manipulation strategy in Super MeatBoy Mafia!!! Look how that turned out! :biggrin:
:feb:

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:58 pm
by Mister Rearranger
Epignosis wrote:
Mister Rearranger wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I feel like when we do lynch a baddie on Day 1, it nearly always spirals the game out of control for days on end. Day 1 is nearly always lose/lose/lose situation. I guess it's about mitigating the damage more than anything.

I get what Llama's saying about the lynch being the tool of the civs, but I can't help thinking it's bought all the civs another day to get sealegs.
Home girl, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say.

First, how often is it that a bad person is lynched Day 1?

Second, how many of those games have you been in?

Third, what does "spirals...our of control for days on end" mean?
Why didn't you vote asap like you originally claimed you would?

Change of mind?

Change of heart?

Change of strategy?

Changing the tap?
Vote for whom?
K4J, I believe. But maybe I should have quoted the right post of yours. :derp:

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:59 pm
by DFaraday
Loulou26 wrote: Lol well mine says it ends at 5am on Wednesday morning. :shrug:
Where do you live, Lou?

So everyone is clear, the poll ends 26 hours from me posting this comment.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:59 pm
by S~V~S
The bolding is harder to see in the white type. We kinda already have too many colors as it is, maybe you could use italics?

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:59 pm
by Epignosis
Mister Rearranger wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Mister Rearranger wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I feel like when we do lynch a baddie on Day 1, it nearly always spirals the game out of control for days on end. Day 1 is nearly always lose/lose/lose situation. I guess it's about mitigating the damage more than anything.

I get what Llama's saying about the lynch being the tool of the civs, but I can't help thinking it's bought all the civs another day to get sealegs.
Home girl, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say.

First, how often is it that a bad person is lynched Day 1?

Second, how many of those games have you been in?

Third, what does "spirals...our of control for days on end" mean?
Why didn't you vote asap like you originally claimed you would?

Change of mind?

Change of heart?

Change of strategy?

Changing the tap?
Vote for whom?
K4J, I believe. But maybe I should have quoted the right post of yours. :derp:
Who should get my vote? Tell me. And I will vote for that person right now.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:01 am
by Boomslang
Mongoose wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm sorry- your comment about finding a bad guy day one is just absurd. When you find a bad guy day 1, that is time for rejoicing. You get information AND you net a kill. That remark makes no sense to me.
I never said it was bad, per se. Just that there is a big upside to not having a lynch at all. IT's not that I was saying there was a brightside to a civ lynch, but the upside. I think the information from a baddie lynch on day 1 can be somewhat dubious. It's really easy to lose focus.

Has no one else in this entire game seen a Day 1 Baddie Lynch turn the game into a temporary tempest / poopstorm/clusterhump that would like to sit on the couch and share the experience.
Well, I can see where you're coming from. Lynching a baddie is a big data point, and everybody latches onto that as a way to interpret all the other things that happened Day 1, which may or may not be accurate. Lynching civs is more common, so I think what you're saying is that a civ lynch has less of an impact on the game, for better or worse?

That being said, it's generally hard to find and lynch baddies. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, am I right?

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:02 am
by Loulou26
DFaraday wrote:
Loulou26 wrote: Lol well mine says it ends at 5am on Wednesday morning. :shrug:
Where do you live, Lou?

So everyone is clear, the poll ends 26 hours from me posting this comment.

England. So I'm usually about 6 or so hours behind everyone else lol.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:03 am
by Draconus
Loulou26 wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Ok. ksiters, slow down a bit on your MP suspicions and give him a chance to show his play style. He gets lynched A LOT as a civ because of his aggressive mannerisms and I'd hate to lose a potentially valuable civ this early because new people aren't used to him. If you find my defense of him suspicious, go ahead vote for me and see where that gets you :feb:

But as I said before, if nothing else catches my :eye: then I'm going to vote MP just to piss him off. I see I've already caught his GF's attention :p ;)

Isn't this slightly contradictory? In one breath you're telling us not to suspect him so early because you don't want him lynched, yet you're willing to vote him to just piss him off? I'm not sure if you're serious or not but that feels strange to me.
What can I say? I'm strange :)

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:05 am
by Mongoose
If we lynch any, I promise not to look them in the mouth!

And yes, I agree that a civ lynch has less impact on the game. The chances are SO high we will lynch a civ on Day 1 (I mean so, so high. 80%?) that I feel like a no-lynch is a nice respite. A chance to take a deep breath before being plunged in to icy cold water again for another day of The Tumble Cycle. (I wish I could narrate this for you).

We get one more day to get our bearings. Cause then if we do lynch a baddie on Day 2, we have enough info for the intel we gained from it to actually be meaningful and helpful.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:10 am
by Draconus
Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I feel like when we do lynch a baddie on Day 1, it nearly always spirals the game out of control for days on end. Day 1 is nearly always lose/lose/lose situation. I guess it's about mitigating the damage more than anything.

I get what Llama's saying about the lynch being the tool of the civs, but I can't help thinking it's bought all the civs another day to get sealegs.
Home girl, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say.

First, how often is it that a bad person is lynched Day 1?

Second, how many of those games have you been in?

Third, what does "spirals...our of control for days on end" mean?
Bioshock after Day 2 :srsnod:

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:11 am
by Epignosis
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I feel like when we do lynch a baddie on Day 1, it nearly always spirals the game out of control for days on end. Day 1 is nearly always lose/lose/lose situation. I guess it's about mitigating the damage more than anything.

I get what Llama's saying about the lynch being the tool of the civs, but I can't help thinking it's bought all the civs another day to get sealegs.
Home girl, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say.

First, how often is it that a bad person is lynched Day 1?

Second, how many of those games have you been in?

Third, what does "spirals...our of control for days on end" mean?
Bioshock after Day 2 :srsnod:
Well, I was Big Daddy, so that one was awesome. :p

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:14 am
by Boomslang
Mongoose wrote:If we lynch any, I promise not to look them in the mouth!

And yes, I agree that a civ lynch has less impact on the game. The chances are SO high we will lynch a civ on Day 1 (I mean so, so high. 80%?) that I feel like a no-lynch is a nice respite. A chance to take a deep breath before being plunged in to icy cold water again for another day of The Tumble Cycle. (I wish I could narrate this for you).

We get one more day to get our bearings. Cause then if we do lynch a baddie on Day 2, we have enough info for the intel we gained from it to actually be meaningful and helpful.
Well, just for clarification, the odds of a civ lynch are (18/30)*100%, or 60%. If you include the independents, the chances go up to 70%, but as the role descriptions lead me to believe that at least two indies are last man standing roles, I don't think that's accurate. So it's not quite as hopeless!

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:14 am
by Mister Rearranger
Epignosis wrote: Who should get my vote? Tell me. And I will vote for that person right now.
That's a very...erm...not you thing to do. :confused:

I'm not at work, so I haven't even done my reread yet. With all the no-posters so far, I'm actually very unsure.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:16 am
by Mongoose
Boomslang wrote:
Mongoose wrote:If we lynch any, I promise not to look them in the mouth!

And yes, I agree that a civ lynch has less impact on the game. The chances are SO high we will lynch a civ on Day 1 (I mean so, so high. 80%?) that I feel like a no-lynch is a nice respite. A chance to take a deep breath before being plunged in to icy cold water again for another day of The Tumble Cycle. (I wish I could narrate this for you).

We get one more day to get our bearings. Cause then if we do lynch a baddie on Day 2, we have enough info for the intel we gained from it to actually be meaningful and helpful.
Well, just for clarification, the odds of a civ lynch are (18/30)*100%, or 60%. If you include the independents, the chances go up to 70%, but as the role descriptions lead me to believe that at least two indies are last man standing roles, I don't think that's accurate. So it's not quite as hopeless!
Oooh, math'd! Thanks, that was cool, Boomslang. I'm visual, so it helped to see that.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:18 am
by Epignosis
Mister Rearranger wrote:
Epignosis wrote: Who should get my vote? Tell me. And I will vote for that person right now.
That's a very...erm...not you thing to do. :confused:

I'm not at work, so I haven't even done my reread yet. With all the no-posters so far, I'm actually very unsure.
Oh it's quite a me thing to do. You posted, and I gave you an opportunity, and you say "I'm not at work." You don't work at work? You do Mafia?

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:18 am
by Draconus
This is what I just read and am choosing to ignore:

M: THIS!!!

E: That's stupid.

M: But....

E: No.

This took me 5 seconds to write. How the fuck is there that much LINKI!?!?!?!?! :WTF:

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:23 am
by thellama73
Epignosis wrote:You don't work at work? You do Mafia?
You act as if those things are mutually exclusive.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:23 am
by Mister Rearranger
Epignosis wrote:
Mister Rearranger wrote:
Epignosis wrote: Who should get my vote? Tell me. And I will vote for that person right now.
That's a very...erm...not you thing to do. :confused:

I'm not at work, so I haven't even done my reread yet. With all the no-posters so far, I'm actually very unsure.
Oh it's quite a me thing to do. You posted, and I gave you an opportunity, and you say "I'm not at work." You don't work at work? You do Mafia?
It's a looong shift. :sigh:

But yes. All I have at home is my Nook and I gave up long ago on trying to multiquote and type extensively on it. The work comp is much easier to use.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:24 am
by Draconus
kneel4justice wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:So are these the type of things (Mongoose's comment) generally considered evidence?

I didn't really understand, but I just figured it's another thing that I just view differently, but now I am seeing others find her comment suspicious. I mean, it is weird for someone to kind of negatively paint the idea of catching a scum, but who in the world would do that as scum?! Is Mongoose usually more careful than this as scum?

Mongoose is the current game at KSITE one that you would categorize under this idea you've brought up?
Whatever the case, it's between you and her, sister. :mafia:
Whatever.
I'm a guy.
Well that made my head spin into triple take :smile:

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:25 am
by Epignosis
I voted Mongoose. Rest easy k4j.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:26 am
by Mister Rearranger
Ebwop: Also, that's nearly what I did. You posted long ago, I asked a question, gave you an opportunity to answer it, and you give me an ultimatum.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:28 am
by kneel4justice
Epignosis wrote:I voted Mongoose. Rest easy k4j.
:offtobed:

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:28 am
by Epignosis
Mister Rearranger wrote:Ebwop: Also, that's nearly what I did. You posted long ago, I asked a question, gave you an opportunity to answer it, and you give me an ultimatum.
Well you're lucky I forgot about it, aren't you?

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:32 am
by S~V~S
I dunno, Mongoose. Every time someone tries to actually talk to you about the game, you just find a way to turn it into OT Green. It's a game, not srs bsns, but it is starting to feel like you are intentionally deflecting here.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:37 am
by Draconus
Now that I am caught up!!! I'm not sure about Mongoose. I feel like every time this happens with her we end up roasting a civ goose... But go ahead. I'd be interested in seeing the result :eye:

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:56 am
by Dom
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Now that I am caught up!!! I'm not sure about Mongoose. I feel like every time this happens with her we end up roasting a civ goose... But go ahead. I'd be interested in seeing the result :eye:
At first, I wasn't buying the Mongoose case...
But I don't like how she's been responding to Epig-- at all. I also think SVS brought an excellent point up about trying to deflect everything into the Off Topic. If I had to vote now, it'd be for Mongoose.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:04 am
by Dom
Epignosis wrote:I voted Mongoose. Rest easy k4j.
Do you still find k4j suspicious?

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:05 am
by Matahari
Thank you ksiters. I'm not super comfy with lead-footers on day 1, but having a no lynch option puts a much better perspective on it. I wish we had something like that.

Mongooses comment made me do a double take, because I think no matter who gets lynched, the mafia will find a way to manipulate it. I can't come up with any reason for wanting to avoid a baddie lynch. Then I reread her post, and I got the impression that she wasn't comparing a baddie vs. civvie lynch, but rather a baddie vs. no lynch. I guess that sounds better :shrug: but its still kinda odd.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:10 am
by Mister Rearranger
Epignosis wrote:
Mister Rearranger wrote:Ebwop: Also, that's nearly what I did. You posted long ago, I asked a question, gave you an opportunity to answer it, and you give me an ultimatum.
Well you're lucky I forgot about it, aren't you?
Not exactly the term I'd use; but sure, let's go with that.
Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I voted Mongoose. Rest easy k4j.
Do you still find k4j suspicious?
Lawlz

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:15 am
by birdwithteeth11
Mongoose wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
Mongoose wrote:If we lynch any, I promise not to look them in the mouth!

And yes, I agree that a civ lynch has less impact on the game. The chances are SO high we will lynch a civ on Day 1 (I mean so, so high. 80%?) that I feel like a no-lynch is a nice respite. A chance to take a deep breath before being plunged in to icy cold water again for another day of The Tumble Cycle. (I wish I could narrate this for you).

We get one more day to get our bearings. Cause then if we do lynch a baddie on Day 2, we have enough info for the intel we gained from it to actually be meaningful and helpful.
Well, just for clarification, the odds of a civ lynch are (18/30)*100%, or 60%. If you include the independents, the chances go up to 70%, but as the role descriptions lead me to believe that at least two indies are last man standing roles, I don't think that's accurate. So it's not quite as hopeless!
Oooh, math'd! Thanks, that was cool, Boomslang. I'm visual, so it helped to see that.
Does anyone else think this sounded a little too....helpful?

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:55 am
by Mongoose
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Now that I am caught up!!! I'm not sure about Mongoose. I feel like every time this happens with her we end up roasting a civ goose... But go ahead. I'd be interested in seeing the result :eye:
At this rate, they can roast a civ goose again just in time for Christmas.

Look guys, maybe I was in an inappropriately festive mood tonight, but that doesn't mean I was question dodgey. If you have questions or concerns you don't think I addressed, shoot them at me.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:21 am
by Mister Rearranger
Full readthrough and the most I have to go on is that I read "perseverating" as "perversateing". :huh:

Reading the full exchange with Mongoose RE: Llama vs. Epi does not do her any favors, that's for sure.

Mongoose, I have a question: Why do you feel Epi voted for you?

Also, this:
Matahari wrote:I have a question for the ksiters. We used to play the aggressive day 1&2 thing at Stv too, but we almost always wound up lynching civvies. Then, the people who led the lynches would get lynched the next day, and most always, they were civvies too. It was awfully predictable, and eventually, people started slowing down in their scum-hunting a bit. My question is how successful are you guys at getting scum lynched on day 1?
Matahari wrote:Thank you ksiters. I'm not super comfy with lead-footers on day 1, but having a no lynch option puts a much better perspective on it. I wish we had something like that.

Mongooses comment made me do a double take, because I think no matter who gets lynched, the mafia will find a way to manipulate it. I can't come up with any reason for wanting to avoid a baddie lynch. Then I reread her post, and I got the impression that she wasn't comparing a baddie vs. civvie lynch, but rather a baddie vs. no lynch. I guess that sounds better :shrug: but its still kinda odd.
Matahari's last two posts do not read right to me. Could be either a very rehearsed or subtly enticing/warming question & answer session.

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:29 am
by Turnip Head
*grabs the mic*

Hello, game! Sorry for not getting into the thread sooner than this. Yesterday I was busy getting my soul crushed by my fantasy football team. And then today I was busy forgetting that this had begun. (Where's the embarrassed emoticon?)

I've barely watched any WWE in my day, so I'm missing the nostalgia factor and the theme-knowledge factor. But that's okay, because

I AM THE TURNIP HEAD. And as a head of turnip, I did not grow up in your world. In the lands of turnips where I come from, wrestling doesn't exist, and neither does futbol. For years I have let WWE toil away in the ignorant spaces of my mind. I have been content to mock its structure. Its flair for the OVERLY DRAMATIC. The cheesy monologues. The atrocious acting.

But none of that matters, because the truth is that there's plenty of scum out there. And it is up to us to not be ignorant; to bring it forth into the light, to expose the lies, to bring justice to this ham-filled world of posers and phoneys.

With this in mind, I read this post:
FZ. wrote:Before I leave for bed, there was one person, who I can't remember the name who was posting a lot of fluff (off topic) back and forth with A person (I think that was him, not sure). I remember expecting that person to be done with the fluff and start saying something with meat, but it didn't come. Now I don't remember who it was. Does anyone remember that? I think they were talking about names in another site, or something like that.
And it seems baity to I. FZ throws out some accusations at an idea, wanting someone else to do the research to tie supposed baddie behavior with a player. I don't really know how to explain how this post came off to me, but the word "manipulative" definitely comes to mind, which is not a word I associate with civvieness. Did anyone fall for it? Did anyone find what FZ was talking about? Does anyone else think it's weird that FZ didn't go back and look for himself?

I also saw some talk regarding the Ksite and how they don't lynch anyone on Day 1 sometimes? Turnip Head wonders how this works. Is there a "No Lynch" option? And does that really end up working out in the civvie's best interests? As often as Day 1 ends in tragedy, it also ultimately ends up providing useful info. A No Lynch doesn't seem to create any leads. What's the upside there?

I also disagree with the notion that a baddie lynch on Day 1 leads to complacency. It can lead to that, but we - being the great mafia players that we are - won't be sated by just one baddie lynch. We. Want. More.

Speaking of bloodthirst, it eeks from every pore of this post:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Now that I am caught up!!! I'm not sure about Mongoose. I feel like every time this happens with her we end up roasting a civ goose... But go ahead. I'd be interested in seeing the result :eye:
Devin has seen with his omnipotent mind that Mongoose gets lynched as a civvie for whatever reasons she's being suspected now, but Devin has no qualms with this potentially happening again. Devin only wants results. He doesn't seem to care what those results are. This seems to me an uneasy amount of curiosity.

Other than those posts, not much has stood out to me. I'm trying to get a feel for the player base since there's plenty of people here I've never played with. There's quite a bit of talking in this thread already, though some posts were light on substance and heavy on eye-searing quote-within-a-quote-within-a-quote-within-a-quote boxes.

Although I'm sure this post of mine isn't exactly easy on the eyes either, so I'll stop here.




:fiesta:

Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:56 am
by Lizzy
Errrr, that's a tad too much to read. If it's all the same to you, I'll try to fly under radar and hope no-one takes notice.

Oops! A slip! :blush:

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Re: WWE MAFIA - Day 1

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:53 am
by Vompatti
I know that feel