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Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:03 pm
by juliets
juliets wrote:
NANANANANANA_BANANA wrote:I vote for Matt F because he has caused a lot of arguments for no good reason.
Banana, I dont understand. What has he done exactly to cause an argument? What arguments are you talking about?
Banana you were just here but didnt answer my questions so here is a reminder in case you're still around. I persevere when people don't answer my questions so might as well do it now.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:05 pm
by MacDougall
Why did banana and Luke both rush to comment on my Floyd post? I find that really strange.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:07 pm
by Luke11646
MacDougall wrote:Why did banana and Luke both rush to comment on my Floyd post? I find that really strange.
Cause we're friends

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:10 pm
by Luke11646
Luke11646 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Why did banana and Luke both rush to comment on my Floyd post? I find that really strange.
Cause we're friends
And friends stick together.Image

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:11 pm
by MacDougall
Nope. Something really weird about it.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:29 pm
by Golden
Friends may stick together, but don't forget that you might be on different sides in this game.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:37 pm
by Matt
Derp, I don't like having four votes. Zebra said she'd change hers if I did soooo...

reywaS. Hey bud, where are your thoughts at?

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:50 pm
by a2thezebra
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Can we just play this game independent of every other game going on right now?
This, for the love of fuck.
Matt F wrote:Sorry Zebra, vote stays. I was pretty caught off guard with this nonsense, but as Sorsha demonstrated, it's obviously not just Mac who feels this way. If I'm around after Day 1, legit scum hunting will begin. If not, good luck town! :beer:
There is a crucial difference between overreacting with a defense and overreacting with an action. You performed the latter, in the worst possible way second only to claiming scum, so sorry, my vote stays too then.
MacDougall wrote:Floyd you aren't a noob anymore so I will be voting you for looking for an easy place to put your questionable vote.
Well that sure is an easy place to put your questionable vote.

linki - Well, what the fuck. Let's see...there really isn't anything I find that suspicious. I've spent more time responding to this linki then the rest of my post. I'll go with nutella, maybe that will stop the lurking.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:51 pm
by a2thezebra
Now in glorious underlining: nutella

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:53 pm
by Elohcin
Golden wrote:Friends may stick together, but don't forget that you might be on different sides in this game.
And that there is no illegal BTSC. 'Cause them both coming in like that is a little suspicious.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:54 pm
by Matt
I know you already switched your vote, Zebra, but I did want to point out this is brand new territory for me. I've never had someone call a policy lynch on me before, and I really haven't been sure what to post since.

But anyway, thanks for switchin'. :)

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:05 pm
by Dom
a2thezebra wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Can we just play this game independent of every other game going on right now?
This, for the love of fuck.
Matt F wrote:Sorry Zebra, vote stays. I was pretty caught off guard with this nonsense, but as Sorsha demonstrated, it's obviously not just Mac who feels this way. If I'm around after Day 1, legit scum hunting will begin. If not, good luck town! :beer:
There is a crucial difference between overreacting with a defense and overreacting with an action. You performed the latter, in the worst possible way second only to claiming scum, so sorry, my vote stays too then.
MacDougall wrote:Floyd you aren't a noob anymore so I will be voting you for looking for an easy place to put your questionable vote.
Well that sure is an easy place to put your questionable vote.

linki - Well, what the fuck. Let's see...there really isn't anything I find that suspicious. I've spent more time responding to this linki then the rest of my post. I'll go with nutella, maybe that will stop the lurking.
Can you explain how nutella is lurking?

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:11 pm
by LoRab
NANANANANANA_BANANA wrote:Oh come on get a sense of humour!
Mafia iz srs bznss.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:22 pm
by a2thezebra
Matt F wrote:I know you already switched your vote, Zebra, but I did want to point out this is brand new territory for me. I've never had someone call a policy lynch on me before, and I really haven't been sure what to post since.

But anyway, thanks for switchin'. :)
Your welcome, now don't make me switch back.
Dom wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Can we just play this game independent of every other game going on right now?
This, for the love of fuck.
Matt F wrote:Sorry Zebra, vote stays. I was pretty caught off guard with this nonsense, but as Sorsha demonstrated, it's obviously not just Mac who feels this way. If I'm around after Day 1, legit scum hunting will begin. If not, good luck town! :beer:
There is a crucial difference between overreacting with a defense and overreacting with an action. You performed the latter, in the worst possible way second only to claiming scum, so sorry, my vote stays too then.
MacDougall wrote:Floyd you aren't a noob anymore so I will be voting you for looking for an easy place to put your questionable vote.
Well that sure is an easy place to put your questionable vote.

linki - Well, what the fuck. Let's see...there really isn't anything I find that suspicious. I've spent more time responding to this linki then the rest of my post. I'll go with nutella, maybe that will stop the lurking.
Can you explain how nutella is lurking?
Two posts. One is an introduction and the other is echoing what others had already said with nothing original to add. Out of the other minimal posters, nutella seems the worst to me at the moment. But like I said, there really isn't anything so far I find that suspicious, so it's more of a pressure vote than anything else. At least for now.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:22 pm
by a2thezebra
*You're

fml

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Night 0

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:56 pm
by Turnip Head
Dom wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:...and three players were told that voting Prog would get them off the poll, one civ, one baddie, and one independent. I don't understand what you're looking for me to say here.
But that makes it equally likely that Bullz is civ or bad.... that's why I don't understand why you seemed to imply it makes Bullz worth voting for.
I don't plan to pursue this further than I already have, but I think of it this way. There are 15 civilian roles in this game, which means everyone has a 50% chance of getting a civvie role. If we assume that Bullz was one of the three players who had inside info on the poll, then there's only a 33% chance that he's civvie and a 67% chance that he's non-civ, which means he would be less likely to be civ than anyone else. I was pushing Bullz to see how I felt about him in relation to those possibilities.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:16 pm
by Matt
In case anyone is interested (without having to go check the polls thread), voters of Progressive include:

Metalmarsh, Bullzeye, Floyd, SVS, Epig, BWT

If one baddie was told this would remove them from the lynch poll, I'm willing to bet he told his team. Unless LC barred such action?

Do we suppose the civ, Mafia, and indy were told that Long Con would tell the town that "one civ, Mafia, and Indy knew at the outset?" or did our host keep that info to himself when letting these players know?

:ponder:

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:44 pm
by Golden
Matt F wrote:In case anyone is interested (without having to go check the polls thread), voters of Progressive include:

Metalmarsh, Bullzeye, Floyd, SVS, Epig, BWT

If one baddie was told this would remove them from the lynch poll, I'm willing to bet he told his team. Unless LC barred such action?

Do we suppose the civ, Mafia, and indy were told that Long Con would tell the town that "one civ, Mafia, and Indy knew at the outset?" or did our host keep that info to himself when letting these players know?

:ponder:
You'd have to be daft to have your whole team pile on, though, right?

Plus, in the case of at least some of these people (Epi, Marmot, I'm pretty sure SVS), I know prog is also the truthful answer.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:47 pm
by Sorsha
S~V~S wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Pro-Tip:

S~V~S is always bad in Black Con games. :dark:
In the first recruitment game on TP, I was the civvie recruiter. I was a civ in the LOST Map game on RM as well.

Get it straight Epi.
Epi- what's your objective in making a statement so easily proven false?

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:52 pm
by Golden
I feel like my minor ping vote has been on Sorsha long enough, for now I'm moving it to Timmer the absent, someone who I want to hear from.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:02 pm
by MacDougall
Golden wrote:
Matt F wrote:In case anyone is interested (without having to go check the polls thread), voters of Progressive include:

Metalmarsh, Bullzeye, Floyd, SVS, Epig, BWT

If one baddie was told this would remove them from the lynch poll, I'm willing to bet he told his team. Unless LC barred such action?

Do we suppose the civ, Mafia, and indy were told that Long Con would tell the town that "one civ, Mafia, and Indy knew at the outset?" or did our host keep that info to himself when letting these players know?

:ponder:
You'd have to be daft to have your whole team pile on, though, right?

Plus, in the case of at least some of these people (Epi, Marmot, I'm pretty sure SVS), I know prog is also the truthful answer.
I agree here. Matt pointing this out without referencing the glaringly obvious downside to the point feels like a scum who experienced this whole conversation in btsc trying to utilise the fact to put undue suspicion on a slew of townies in one fell swoop.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:04 pm
by Marmot
Golden wrote:
Matt F wrote:In case anyone is interested (without having to go check the polls thread), voters of Progressive include:

Metalmarsh, Bullzeye, Floyd, SVS, Epig, BWT

If one baddie was told this would remove them from the lynch poll, I'm willing to bet he told his team. Unless LC barred such action?

Do we suppose the civ, Mafia, and indy were told that Long Con would tell the town that "one civ, Mafia, and Indy knew at the outset?" or did our host keep that info to himself when letting these players know?

:ponder:
You'd have to be daft to have your whole team pile on, though, right?

Plus, in the case of at least some of these people (Epi, Marmot, I'm pretty sure SVS), I know prog is also the truthful answer.
Count birdwithteeth in this category as well. No idea about Bullzeye. Floyd's name implies that he is. SVS, I think her tastes aren't as isolated to just prog, but she is a Floyd fan.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:07 pm
by Matt
I think MacD really is going to tunnel me all game. :beer:

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:18 pm
by BUGLABUSH
Hi

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:19 pm
by MacDougall
Matt F wrote:I think MacD really is going to tunnel me all game. :beer:
That's a nice attempt to devalue my opinion without referencing it.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:21 pm
by Epignosis
Sorsha wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Pro-Tip:

S~V~S is always bad in Black Con games. :dark:
In the first recruitment game on TP, I was the civvie recruiter. I was a civ in the LOST Map game on RM as well.

Get it straight Epi.
Epi- what's your objective in making a statement so easily proven false?
Why must everything have an objective?

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:25 pm
by Matt
MacDougall wrote:
Matt F wrote:I think MacD really is going to tunnel me all game. :beer:
That's a nice attempt to devalue my opinion without referencing it.
Alright, let's reference your opinion...
MacDougall wrote:I agree here. Matt pointing this out without referencing the glaringly obvious downside to the point feels like a scum who experienced this whole conversation in btsc trying to utilise the fact to put undue suspicion on a slew of townies in one fell swoop.
I'm not aware of the other players' taste in music, so I didn't account for that when posing my question. Just trying to contribute for leads. You still trying to kill townies via policy lynch?

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:29 pm
by Sorsha
Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Pro-Tip:

S~V~S is always bad in Black Con games. :dark:
In the first recruitment game on TP, I was the civvie recruiter. I was a civ in the LOST Map game on RM as well.

Get it straight Epi.
Epi- what's your objective in making a statement so easily proven false?
Why must everything have an objective?
Don't answer a question with a question.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:30 pm
by Epignosis
Sorsha wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Pro-Tip:

S~V~S is always bad in Black Con games. :dark:
In the first recruitment game on TP, I was the civvie recruiter. I was a civ in the LOST Map game on RM as well.

Get it straight Epi.
Epi- what's your objective in making a statement so easily proven false?
Why must everything have an objective?
Don't answer a question with a question.
May I answer commands from Sorsha that I'm not going to obey with a question?

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:31 pm
by Golden
I'd also say that... being taken off the poll is not really friendly towards any one particular faction, the way that often different options are when each faction has a person with info on the poll. Do we know people had info or are we theorising? Should we assume that, if someone had info that prog would take you off the poll, that person would be bad?

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:44 pm
by Matt
Golden wrote:I'd also say that... being taken off the poll is not really friendly towards any one particular faction, the way that often different options are when each faction has a person with info on the poll. Do we know people had info or are we theorising? Should we assume that, if someone had info that prog would take you off the poll, that person would be bad?
Well, we know three players had info. Whether any of those players are the ones who actually voted Progressive in the poll is unknown, so I suppose we're theorizing if any of the six players who voted progressive were also the players who were given info.

If we are to assume that yes, those three players did vote Prog because of the info given, then no, there would be a 1/6 chance that one of the players are bad, 1/6 good, and 1/6 indy. Not all bad.

I'm tired, I dunno if that made any sense.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:52 pm
by MacDougall
Matt F wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Matt F wrote:I think MacD really is going to tunnel me all game. :beer:
That's a nice attempt to devalue my opinion without referencing it.
Alright, let's reference your opinion...
MacDougall wrote:I agree here. Matt pointing this out without referencing the glaringly obvious downside to the point feels like a scum who experienced this whole conversation in btsc trying to utilise the fact to put undue suspicion on a slew of townies in one fell swoop.
I'm not aware of the other players' taste in music, so I didn't account for that when posing my question. Just trying to contribute for leads. You still trying to kill townies via policy lynch?
The glaringly obvious isn't taste it's that while the scum may have shared it to then go and pile on would be rank idiocy.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Night 0

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:53 pm
by Dom
Turnip Head wrote:
Dom wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:...and three players were told that voting Prog would get them off the poll, one civ, one baddie, and one independent. I don't understand what you're looking for me to say here.
But that makes it equally likely that Bullz is civ or bad.... that's why I don't understand why you seemed to imply it makes Bullz worth voting for.
I don't plan to pursue this further than I already have, but I think of it this way. There are 15 civilian roles in this game, which means everyone has a 50% chance of getting a civvie role. If we assume that Bullz was one of the three players who had inside info on the poll, then there's only a 33% chance that he's civvie and a 67% chance that he's non-civ, which means he would be less likely to be civ than anyone else. I was pushing Bullz to see how I felt about him in relation to those possibilities.
Sounds good to me, then.
Matt F wrote:In case anyone is interested (without having to go check the polls thread), voters of Progressive include:

Metalmarsh, Bullzeye, Floyd, SVS, Epig, BWT

If one baddie was told this would remove them from the lynch poll, I'm willing to bet he told his team. Unless LC barred such action?

Do we suppose the civ, Mafia, and indy were told that Long Con would tell the town that "one civ, Mafia, and Indy knew at the outset?" or did our host keep that info to himself when letting these players know?

:ponder:
The only thing that sort of surprises me of that group is maybe SVS. But it's a maybe. And I'm not sure she would have capitalized on that information.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:54 pm
by Epignosis
Being off the poll Day 1 is hardly a prize worth exposing your team over.

Also, please note the wording:
Long Con wrote:Day 1 has begun. You will be getting a PM about your new location (if you moved) within the next hour or so.

The poll will come up first. Those that voted for Prog will not be on the poll. One Civvie, one baddie, and one Indy role were told at the outset of the poll that this was a possible outcome of the Day 0 poll.
This means there were other possible outcomes.

Don't wrack your brain over this. I don't think it will get you any place.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:54 pm
by MacDougall
Agreed

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:03 am
by Epignosis
Dom, are you bad?

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:04 am
by nutella
I see I've already gotten a vote for not being around much. I'm just now checking in, I am having quite a busy week.

I think that Bullz is, or is one of the teammates of, one of the people who got info. That means that I think there is more than 1/3 chance that he is bad because I think it is likely that the baddie who got info told their teammates. As Epi points out I find it unlikely that all of the team members would vote for it, I wouldn't doubt that a couple of them would, and that there is therefore a greater chance that Bullz is on a baddie team than that he is a civ or indie.

Unfortunately, of course, I can't vote for him. So I'll have to resort to other Day 1 crap. Like maybe the Mac/Matt thing, but as I already said I think that both of them are fucking around uselessly and I'm kind of indifferent to both.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:08 am
by Epignosis
If Bullzeye had come in and said, "I like prog a lot. Here's my favorite Yes song," would any of you be questioning him about his vote?

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:08 am
by Sorsha
Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Pro-Tip:

S~V~S is always bad in Black Con games. :dark:
In the first recruitment game on TP, I was the civvie recruiter. I was a civ in the LOST Map game on RM as well.

Get it straight Epi.
Epi- what's your objective in making a statement so easily proven false?
Why must everything have an objective?
Don't answer a question with a question.
May I answer commands from Sorsha that I'm not going to obey with a question?
So you have no reason for making false statements. Ok.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:10 am
by a2thezebra
To BUGLABUSH it is.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:11 am
by Epignosis
Sorsha wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Pro-Tip:

S~V~S is always bad in Black Con games. :dark:
In the first recruitment game on TP, I was the civvie recruiter. I was a civ in the LOST Map game on RM as well.

Get it straight Epi.
Epi- what's your objective in making a statement so easily proven false?
Why must everything have an objective?
Don't answer a question with a question.
May I answer commands from Sorsha that I'm not going to obey with a question?
So you have no reason for making false statements. Ok.
I swear to God I'm going to bring Don McLean back from the dead so he can write a song about the day the humor died.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:12 am
by a2thezebra
It's not the presence of humor but rather the lack of a decent response that might be the issue, Epi.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:14 am
by a2thezebra
That being said, I don't think the original post that got Sorsha on the offense warrants much investigation. To me it seems humorous as well and nothing more.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:14 am
by Epignosis
a2thezebra wrote:It's not the presence of humor but rather the lack of a decent response that might be the issue, Epi.
If I have to explain the joke, then it's not funny people need to lighten up.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:14 am
by Epignosis
Also, Don McLean isn't dead yet, so I'm waiting for some wise guy to chime in informing me of that as well. :meany:

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:18 am
by BUGLABUSH
I voted for a2thezebra because he bad

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:19 am
by MacDougall
Epi can you please tunnel me and rile me up

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:19 am
by a2thezebra
BUGLABUSH wrote:I voted for a2thezebra because he bad
I admire you for not even attempting to disguise your OMGUS vote, but I must inform you that your town facade looks worse for it.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:21 am
by MacDougall
a2thezebra wrote:
BUGLABUSH wrote:I voted for a2thezebra because he bad
I admire you for not even attempting to disguise your OMGUS vote, but I must inform you that your town facade looks worse for it.
See this is how scum react to day 1 votes.

Re: Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Day 1

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:22 am
by a2thezebra
MacDougall wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
BUGLABUSH wrote:I voted for a2thezebra because he bad
I admire you for not even attempting to disguise your OMGUS vote, but I must inform you that your town facade looks worse for it.
See this is how scum react to day 1 votes.
Yessirree