The Syndicate

Ricochet wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Neither should I. This is an Arrested Development themed game predicated on character roleplay, and y'all want to lynch Tobias first? What is wrong with you people?

Why would Tobias stand out among others?

To quote my mother-in-law, I don't understand the question and I won't respond to it.

Sloonei wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Neither should I. This is an Arrested Development themed game predicated on character roleplay, and y'all want to lynch Tobias first? What is wrong with you people?

Why would Tobias stand out among others?

To quote my mother-in-law, I don't understand the question and I won't respond to it.

Right on. \o/

Somebody told me that we're lynching somebody. What sort of games do you kids even play nowadays? Why is death so prevalent in today's culture? Why do you people insist on eliminating your own kin?

So I failed to re-read everything written toDay, because I'm a slow non-reader. I went back to check on people picking on llama, who should not be lynched for obvious reasons and for being a guy I can relate to.

Such people were: lovedalick (am I pronouncing this correctly?) for roleplay disdain, Sloonei with pressure vote, Wilgy for roleplay disdain and then stack vote call and Sorsha for roleplay disdain. That's a lot of roleplay disdain for my taste, but Wilgy's stack vote call was also slightly gross. Of these people, only an extra vote lovedalik could perhaps save poor llama right now, so I'm considering that.

Also to mention, TH being both pinged by Wilgy, then finding his argument "compelling" reads kinda flipflops... am I pronouncing this correctly?

Lovedali unless something changes. RICK OCHÉ has spoken! \o/

Wait, that's not idea, that makes it a tie. \?/

I know the host is a smart and intelligent person, but I think we need to learn him a few things. Sorsha comes before Spacedaisy alphabetically.

This is the most disappointing thing that has ever happened in my mafia life.

Tobias had spent the day working diligently to guide his in-laws through the initial period of this crisis. There was an air of trepidation and uncertainty in the Bluth apartments and the model home, each member trying to find their niche and behave the way they felt they should. Tobias sensed their fears, and realized it would be up to him to bring them together. They all looked up to him, he knew, as an experienced analrapist and actor.

Not everyone was pleased with Tobias though, indeed most of them just thought he was a creep and openly said as much at every opportunity. Michael was especially candid:

Michael: "Okay. You know what you do? Buy yourself a tape recorder. Record yourself for a whole day. I think you're gonna be surprised at some of your phrasing."

Tobias: (gasps) "Butterscotch! Want a lick?"

later...

Tobias: You know, Michael, perhaps I should buy you that tape recorder. Do you have any idea how often you say the word "afraid"?

Michael: "Well, I know I did in the jacuzzi."

Tobias: "And I apologize for that. I thought it was a pool toy."

But it was too late for apologies. Michael and the other family members had already agreed to remove Tobias from the equation. They informed him of an audition opportunity out of town and sent him away. He was eager to prove himself, but in the end show business proved too hot for him to handle despite his best efforts.



Sloonei was lynched. Vanilla good guy. Tobias.

Thread is locked for Night 1. Please do not post before I lock it.

Day 1:

a2thezebra
0
No votes
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Elohcin
1
DrWilgy (7) 6%
G-Man
0
No votes
lovedelic
3
thellama73 (4), Elohcin (6), Ricochet (15) 19%
Metalmarsh89
0
No votes
MovingPictures07
0
No votes
Ricochet
0
No votes
Sloonei
4
Turnip Head (9), Sorsha (12), G-Man (13), Metalmarsh89 (16) 25%
Spacedaisy
1
MovingPictures07 (8) 6%
Sorsha
0
No votes
thellama73
3
lovedelic (5), Spacedaisy (11), Sloonei (14) 19%
Turnip Head
1
a2thezebra (10) 6%
No Lynch
0
No votes
I am voting in this poll despite the fact that I have no part in this drama (host/non/dead)
3
JaggedJimmyJay (1), Golden (2), S~V~S (3)

Absolutely nothing happened. Everything seems exactly the same as it was before. Moving along, I guess.

This is bad. This is very bad.

I'm very sorry Sloonei. I didn't know what to do, and chickened out of offering any real substance.

Oh, hey guys. Here's some vote analysis. You know, in case you think it might be useful. It's in the spoiler tag in case you want to look at it and use it to solve this mystery. If you want to just ignore me like most of my family does, that's fine too I guess. I'm used to it.

PS- Sorry I helped get you killed Uncle Tobias. I'll try to do better this time.

Also, I had a lot of time to think about who I was suspicious of when I was learning how to drive the Bluth stair car. Ann's death doesn't shock me too much because, after looking at my vote analysis, she was one of five people I wasn't suspicious of. Sorry to see her die. Now I fear I've only got one shot at finding love but it seems like it's the forbidden kind.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Absolutely nothing happened. Everything seems exactly the same as it was before. Moving along, I guess.

Spoiler: show

a2thezebra was eliminated. She was Ann Veal. Vanilla good gal.

Her?

RICK OCHÉ! \o/

Ricochet wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Absolutely nothing happened. Everything seems exactly the same as it was before. Moving along, I guess.

Spoiler: show

a2thezebra was eliminated. She was Ann Veal. Vanilla good gal.

Her?

RICK OCHÉ! \o/

You're on my list, you moron jock. So, you know, you better watch it. Or something. So there.

G-Man wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Absolutely nothing happened. Everything seems exactly the same as it was before. Moving along, I guess.

Spoiler: show

a2thezebra was eliminated. She was Ann Veal. Vanilla good gal.

Her?

RICK OCHÉ! \o/

You're on my list, you moron jock. So, you know, you better watch it. Or something. So there.

Of course I'm on your list, I voted, didn't I? \o/

Also, nice gonflated abs.

I'm sorry Sloonei, I felt pretty good about my vote RIP Zeebs, I wonder why people keep trying to take you out early.

Not sure where to start looking for today. I felt like nobody really tried to make any waves yesterday, which allows the baddies to blend in. The only person I'm certain I won't be voting for is Mother.

I'd like to dedicate a song to our not-so-dear friend, Steve Holt:

Well that's just great, now my dad's dead and I'm stuck with my mother, I wonder if I could get emaciated. Move out on my own...

Hey GMan, I hear that new French cousins movie is playing, you want to catch the matinee? Might give us the chance to talk about who you think might be bad.

Spacedaisy wrote:Well that's just great, now my dad's dead and I'm stuck with my mother, I wonder if I could get emaciated. Move out on my own...

Hey GMan, I hear that new French cousins movie is playing, you want to catch the matinee? Might give us the chance to talk about who you think might be bad.

Gosh, Maeby. I don't think you need to lose any weight. I think the word you're looking for is emancipated.

I'd love to see that movie with you. I hear it is a very moving tale of romance. We can share our suspicions and perhaps our innermost secrets too. Or, you know, just our suspicions. Whatever works for you works for me.

Yeah, that's what I meant, emanci-whatever you said. Whatever gets me away from my self absorbed mother. anyway, who do you suspect?

RIP Egg, but let's be honest, she was always going to be a third place.

RIP Sloonei. I didn't vote for you.

Spacedaisy wrote:Yeah, that's what I meant, emanci-whatever you said. Whatever gets me away from my self absorbed mother. anyway, who do you suspect?

The three I am most pinged by (it's a technical investigative term) are GOB, Lucille, and Steve Holt. It's curious that every time GOB got a vote that, you know, someone came in and voted for someone else. I know it sounds crazy but it could be that one or more people tried to shift the spotlight elsewhere or halt any GOBmentum.

Lucille tied Uncle Tobias with GOB by her vote. Also worth noting, I think, is that Steve voted for Pop Pop at a time when most discussion was on GOB and your dad. Steve's vote came after a third vote for you dad but Steve voted to create a three-way tie. If teammates, Steve's vote give GOB a better chance at surviving a tie-breaker while also avoiding the attention that would come from breaking a tie near the end of the day.

What do you think about that? I have to go learn some more Quicken before our movie.

I believe I was very heloqvent on why I voted the way I did. \o/ Llama needed saving because of being a green peen. Y'kno, as are you. Not my fault wise ass MM pushed the lynch his way.

Ricochet wrote:I believe I was very heloqvent on why I voted the way I did. \o/ Llama needed saving because of being a green peen. Y'kno, as are you. Not my fault wise ass MM pushed the lynch his way.

That reminds me, does anyone have a list of who all claimed to have checked someone? It might, you know, be important or something. Or not. Just an idea, really.

I was gonna start by looking to see if Zeebs cleared anyone. I don't remember her doing so, but then again I don't remember her name most of the time.

Turnip Head wrote:I was gonna start by looking to see if Zeebs cleared anyone. I don't remember her doing so, but then again I don't remember her name most of the time.

Her?

Ricochet wrote:So I failed to re-read everything written toDay, because I'm a slow non-reader. I went back to check on people picking on llama, who should not be lynched for obvious reasons and for being a guy I can relate to.

Such people were: lovedalick (am I pronouncing this correctly?) for roleplay disdain, Sloonei with pressure vote, Wilgy for roleplay disdain and then stack vote call and Sorsha for roleplay disdain. That's a lot of roleplay disdain for my taste, but Wilgy's stack vote call was also slightly gross. Of these people, only an extra vote lovedalik could perhaps save poor llama right now, so I'm considering that.

Also to mention, TH being both pinged by Wilgy, then finding his argument "compelling" reads kinda flipflops... am I pronouncing this correctly?

Lovedali unless something changes. RICK OCHÉ has spoken! \o/

how are you so sure Zeebs is innocent? especially since your reasoning is roleplay based

gob sucks

d'oh, i meant llama

who is zebra again?

Spacedaisy wrote:Well that's just great, now my dad's dead and I'm stuck with my mother, I wonder if I could get emaciated. Move out on my own...

Hey GMan, I hear that new French cousins movie is playing, you want to catch the matinee? Might give us the chance to talk about who you think might be bad.

You can do what you want as far as I'm concerned.

Why did y'all kill my husband? I left to go shopping only to come back and see him dead!
(why am I a girl?)

S~V~S wrote:Girls can be Doctors

This is true, but I don't know how I feel about THE doctor being a girl...

Zebra didn't try to clear anyone, so she makes for a really strange NK target

Turnip Head wrote:Zebra didn't try to clear anyone, so she makes for a really strange NK target

I know I'm just a kid and my opinion doesn't matter much to my family members but I think Ann was a pretty sensible NK target. The only person gone out of the Tobias, Pop Pop and GOB vote clusters is Tobias. Ann voted for a tangential (I just love sneaking in math terms) option. She was made the only vote for Buster once Tobias switched his vote to GOB.

Ann's vote wasn't likely to be, you know, scrutinized as much as those votes for Tobias, Pop Pop and GOB. We're probably expected to analyze those vote movements so much that we wouldn't notice Ann. I'm a little guilty of this already. By killing someone we wouldn't have noticed today, the killers are keeping the maximum number of bodies around from those vote clusters for them to hide in.

That's my theory. Just tell me if I'm out of line and I will go back to Quicken and trying to write love poems that aren't so awkward.

RIP Sloon and Zebra. I'm not sure what to make of the Zebra kill either. But then again, I am not totally sure what is a likely kill this early in the game either.

So after looking up the character, I definitely want to watch more and see Zeebs character in action. I know Mae Whitman from Parenthood

Oh, and do you like my new disguise?

Previously on Arrested Development:

The mafia fail at finding the cop, killing someone who didn't even throw out a green peek.

Suddenly, another manuscript fell out of thin air, containing the following notes:

Ron Howard's voice wrote:List of n0 green peeks:
a2thezebra - N/A
DrWilgy - Sloonei
Elohcin - N/A
G-Man - N/A
lovedelic - N/A
Metalmarsh89 - N/A
MovingPictures07 - Elohcin
Ricochet - thellama73
Sloonei - N/A
Spacedaisy - lovedelic
Sorsha - N/A
thellama73 - N/A
Turnip Head - G-Man

G-Man wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Zebra didn't try to clear anyone, so she makes for a really strange NK target

I know I'm just a kid and my opinion doesn't matter much to my family members but I think Ann was a pretty sensible NK target. The only person gone out of the Tobias, Pop Pop and GOB vote clusters is Tobias. Ann voted for a tangential (I just love sneaking in math terms) option. She was made the only vote for Buster once Tobias switched his vote to GOB.

Ann's vote wasn't likely to be, you know, scrutinized as much as those votes for Tobias, Pop Pop and GOB. We're probably expected to analyze those vote movements so much that we wouldn't notice Ann. I'm a little guilty of this already. By killing someone we wouldn't have noticed today, the killers are keeping the maximum number of bodies around from those vote clusters for them to hide in.

That's my theory. Just tell me if I'm out of line and I will go back to Quicken and trying to write love poems that aren't so awkward.

I don't get it. How does not noticing Ann fit the mafia agenda? Do you think one of the other wagons was a baddie?

Anyways, MP voted outside the wagons as well, and left a green check to boot, but the bad guys still went for Zeebs. Maybe they didn't want to hit wrong and clear a civilian in the process, but going for Zeebs meant they weren't worried about taking out the cop.

I don't know how Ann's vote not being scrutinized, as reason for her being made dead, means anything unless it means you're looking at me, the person she voted for. But you don't mention me I don't really understand your theory, but you seem to have given it some thought

Or I guess you could mean that we wouldn't be questioning Zebra's vote if she were alive today, so they killed her. Still, that means they gave up going after the cop in order to take her out. That hardly seems a worthwhile tradeoff, but what do I know, I'm just a simpleton.

On the next... Arrested Development:

G-Man, Metalmarsh89, and Sorsha will explain (1) their votes for Sloonei and (2) why they did not believe DrWilgy's peek on Sloonei was legitimate.

Elohcin, thellama73, and Ricochet will explain why (1) their votes for lovedelic and (2) why they did not believe Spacedaisy's peek on lovedelic was legitimate.

lovedelic and Spacedaisy will explain why (1) their votes for thellama73 and (2) why they did not believe Ricochet's peek on thellama73 was legitimate.

Spacedaisy will explain why she voted for me, then moved my vote without responding to my inquiry and acknowledging the switch.

It's possible one of these peeks is real. So why did all of these votes land like this?

MP07, if you had killed a2thezebra, why would you have done it?

Turnip Head wrote:

G-Man wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Zebra didn't try to clear anyone, so she makes for a really strange NK target

I know I'm just a kid and my opinion doesn't matter much to my family members but I think Ann was a pretty sensible NK target. The only person gone out of the Tobias, Pop Pop and GOB vote clusters is Tobias. Ann voted for a tangential (I just love sneaking in math terms) option. She was made the only vote for Buster once Tobias switched his vote to GOB.

Ann's vote wasn't likely to be, you know, scrutinized as much as those votes for Tobias, Pop Pop and GOB. We're probably expected to analyze those vote movements so much that we wouldn't notice Ann. I'm a little guilty of this already. By killing someone we wouldn't have noticed today, the killers are keeping the maximum number of bodies around from those vote clusters for them to hide in.

That's my theory. Just tell me if I'm out of line and I will go back to Quicken and trying to write love poems that aren't so awkward.

I don't get it. How does not noticing Ann fit the mafia agenda? Do you think one of the other wagons was a baddie?

Anyways, MP voted outside the wagons as well, and left a green check to boot, but the bad guys still went for Zeebs. Maybe they didn't want to hit wrong and clear a civilian in the process, but going for Zeebs meant they weren't worried about taking out the cop.

I don't know how Ann's vote not being scrutinized, as reason for her being made dead, means anything unless it means you're looking at me, the person she voted for. But you don't mention me I don't really understand your theory, but you seem to have given it some thought

The only way that this is true is if the mafia team has had too much of Oscar's Afternoon Deelite, a particular brand of cannabis famous for slowing behavior.

I don't know what you mean by that. You used the word "slow" which is a word I understand. Use more words like that please

MovingPictures07 wrote:On the next... Arrested Development:

Elohcin, thellama73, and Ricochet will explain why (1) their votes for lovedelic and (2) why they did not believe Spacedaisy's peek on lovedelic was legitimate.

I did. I call it RICK OCHÉ's vote post! \o/
Also, my green peen is legitimate, so, whilst I appreciate Spacedaisy's smokescreen, it didn't hence influence my vote.

On the next... Arrested Development:

The narrator breaks the fourth wall, and speculates that if he *had* killed Ann, he would have done it to avoid a situation of "seer hunt clear", and only then.

A "seer hunt clear" would be a situation in which the mafia kills one of the five players who claimed a n0 green peek, that player flipped vanilla civilian, and then the player that they claimed as a n0 green peek would be a confirmed vanilla civilian, and the cop would still be at large.

With that said, I still think occam's razor suggests that the cop threw out a n0 green peek so that, if he were night killed n1, we would at least have some information by which to move forward, so it is silly that the mafia did not kill any of those five.

Also, I apologize if any of my posts have been more difficult to understand due either to my word shifting to fit my content within roleplaying or sneaking content in the midst of AD quotes and references. It's been fun, but I think I'm about ready to post normally (mostly) going forward.

MovingPictures07 wrote:On the next... Arrested Development:

The narrator breaks the fourth wall, and speculates that if he *had* killed Ann, he would have done it to avoid a situation of "seer hunt clear", and only then.

A "seer hunt clear" would be a situation in which the mafia kills one of the five players who claimed a n0 green peek, that player flipped vanilla civilian, and then the player that they claimed as a n0 green peek would be a confirmed vanilla civilian, and the cop would still be at large.

That's exactly what I said and it sounded like you disagreed with me

I guess, in a way, the mafia have avoided the concept of "seer hunt clear" altogether by taking Zeebs out Night 1. They have now established that their kills may not be based on hunting for the cop, so if they hit a vanilla with cop cover later in the game, those green checks are not automatically validated.

It's a clever strategy if true. I can only think of a few players who might think of doing something like that.