The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 7:50 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:24 pm This whole "you're going for a mislynch" thing is so bogus. I had Jack as a civilian read 48 hours ago. I don't need to cook up some convoluted plan to make Jack my specific target if I am pursuing a mislynch. My read turned because I don't believe in it anymore.
Again, Epi looked so bad, 3 people said they thought he was the unlynchable mafia member.

You exaggerate this. It was basically just you saying that, with JJJ slightly saying he considered it. Juliets and Kyle didn't think so. No one else talked about it.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 7:54 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:40 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:30 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:27 pm jack when did you start suspecting epignosis?
Idk, man. Apparently, there was a Jimmy case but all I remember is him being super unhelpful and stubborn....which in hindsight is a bad reason to vote.
You liked it at the time.

Assess the quality of this case, even now with hindsight.

It’s good on paper. I let it be enough.

But Epi is unhelpful and stubborn and latches on to stupid things as town all the time. He’s also supatown sometimes, like in FE and ASOUE.

Idk who I should have chosen instead if not you.

Vote somewhere else plz. Kthnx.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 7:55 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:24 pm This whole "you're going for a mislynch" thing is so bogus. I had Jack as a civilian read 48 hours ago. I don't need to cook up some convoluted plan to make Jack my specific target if I am pursuing a mislynch. My read turned because I don't believe in it anymore.
Again, Epi looked so bad, 3 people said they thought he was the unlynchable mafia member.
You exaggerate this. It was basically just you saying that, with JJJ slightly saying he considered it. Juliets and Kyle didn't think so. No one else talked about it.

I was actually leaning towards epi being the knock-off pheonix wright role basically up until his death.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 7:56 pm**

Lynch Jack, vig INH. IF INH isn't bad, lynch juliets. That's my ideal plan going forward. I think juliets is bad, and maybe trying to steer the vig away from her actual low-poster teammate.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 7:57 pm**

Excuse me, I thought this indicated you don't find it easy to believe:

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 5:40 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 5:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 4:17 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 2:57 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 2:17 pm @juliets when you get a sec I'd be curious to hear what you think about my Epignosis theory
I see it as a possibility Kyle but if he is one of the two I lean to the round-faced independent. I just don't think he's bad.
but why
I think if he were bad he would have voted for me and tried to get others to as well. Also, it doesn't behoove him not to explain himself like his vote for you or address JJJ's points because it outwardly makes him look more suspicious. I think if he were bad he would try to look civ.
why would an unlynchable Epignosis care about how he looked?

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 7:58 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:24 pm This whole "you're going for a mislynch" thing is so bogus. I had Jack as a civilian read 48 hours ago. I don't need to cook up some convoluted plan to make Jack my specific target if I am pursuing a mislynch. My read turned because I don't believe in it anymore.
Again, Epi looked so bad, 3 people said they thought he was the unlynchable mafia member.
You exaggerate this. It was basically just you saying that, with JJJ slightly saying he considered it. Juliets and Kyle didn't think so. No one else talked about it.

Juliets said yes. One more person said no. Kyle just asked questions about it.

Why is this important? You’re talking about the nuance of a point that is part of an argument for why I didn’t see Epi as trying to avoid lynch.

Even if this is all debunked, Epi still said “I don’t care if I get lynched.”

You’re like arguing over if one play should have been considered a fumble or not looking at a bunch of camera angles and sub rules to see who won....but the score was 63 to 3.

Who cares?

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:00 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:56 pm Lynch Jack, vig INH. IF INH isn't bad, lynch juliets. That's my ideal plan going forward. I think juliets is bad, and maybe trying to steer the vig away from her actual low-poster teammate.

What? Why in the world do you think I am bad? And what teammate are you talking about? I voted Penny when I thought INH was covered.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:04 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:57 pm Excuse me, I thought this indicated you don't find it easy to believe:

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 5:40 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 5:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 4:17 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 2:57 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 2:17 pm @juliets when you get a sec I'd be curious to hear what you think about my Epignosis theory
I see it as a possibility Kyle but if he is one of the two I lean to the round-faced independent. I just don't think he's bad.
but why
I think if he were bad he would have voted for me and tried to get others to as well. Also, it doesn't behoove him not to explain himself like his vote for you or address JJJ's points because it outwardly makes him look more suspicious. I think if he were bad he would try to look civ.
why would an unlynchable Epignosis care about how he looked?

no, Juliets seemed certain that Epignosis couldn't be the unlynchable mafia role because if he were that role then he'd care that acting the way he did would make him more suspicious looking.

i think being especially hard to remove from the playing field would incentivize especially reckless tactics and gameplay choices that would ordinarily be really bad strategies, that's why i asked Juliets that question.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:05 pm**

It's almost time for Mac's favorite part of every day phase, when Jay changes his mind at the last minute.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:06 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:04 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:57 pm Excuse me, I thought this indicated you don't find it easy to believe:

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 5:40 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 5:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 4:17 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 2:57 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 09, 2018 2:17 pm @juliets when you get a sec I'd be curious to hear what you think about my Epignosis theory
I see it as a possibility Kyle but if he is one of the two I lean to the round-faced independent. I just don't think he's bad.
but why
I think if he were bad he would have voted for me and tried to get others to as well. Also, it doesn't behoove him not to explain himself like his vote for you or address JJJ's points because it outwardly makes him look more suspicious. I think if he were bad he would try to look civ.
why would an unlynchable Epignosis care about how he looked?

no, Juliets seemed certain that Epignosis couldn't be the unlynchable mafia role because if he were that role then he'd care that acting the way he did would make him more suspicious looking.

i think being especially hard to remove from the playing field would incentivize especially reckless tactics and gameplay choices that would ordinarily be really bad strategies, that's why i asked Juliets that question.

Specifically, I thought if he was that role he would endeavor to look good so that people would lynch someone else - a civ hopefully.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:08 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:05 pm It's almost time for Mac's favorite part of every day phase, when Jay changes his mind at the last minute.

I can’t wait.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:17 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:56 pm Lynch Jack, vig INH. IF INH isn't bad, lynch juliets. That's my ideal plan going forward. I think juliets is bad, and maybe trying to steer the vig away from her actual low-poster teammate.

That's the feeling I got too from this post.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:17 pm**

You know what,

[VOTE: juliets] aubergine

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:18 pm**

Let's make it happen [mention]Long Con[/mention].

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:20 pm**

No love for the Marmot lynch? Meh.

[VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine

Sorry Jack I get your point that Epi was giving up but I also think you slipped a little too easily on it. I made the same analysis of Epi last EoD and concluded he was giving up for reasons beyond this game. You went and lynched him for it. I admit I'm kind of sheeping on Jay here but his point is good.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:21 pm**

Juliets had one of the most civilian-looking posts in the game IMO. Lemme grab it.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:22 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:35 pm DDL voted for me for a stupid reason (like I owe him a Kylemii vote explanation), and if you vote for him, then that makes it 3-DDL, 4-Epi, which means you will be unlikely to be lynched, and I'm fine with that.
Oh gosh Epi I'm seeing DDL as town. I'm trying to understand what Jay is seeing in wolbre, thinking I may have missed something. If you have to vote for me go ahead, I understand and it's just a game.

This looks like a bonafide jan-yoo-wine townie to me.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:24 pm**

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

Gun to head reads on all players GO GO GO

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:24 pm**

Let’s see that mind change, Jay...

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:27 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:24 pm Let’s see that mind change, Jay...

It's always thinking!

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:30 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:58 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 7:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 5:24 pm This whole "you're going for a mislynch" thing is so bogus. I had Jack as a civilian read 48 hours ago. I don't need to cook up some convoluted plan to make Jack my specific target if I am pursuing a mislynch. My read turned because I don't believe in it anymore.
Again, Epi looked so bad, 3 people said they thought he was the unlynchable mafia member.
You exaggerate this. It was basically just you saying that, with JJJ slightly saying he considered it. Juliets and Kyle didn't think so. No one else talked about it.
Juliets said yes.

No.

One more person said no. Kyle just asked questions about it.

Why is this important? You’re talking about the nuance of a point that is part of an argument for why I didn’t see Epi as trying to avoid lynch.

Even if this is all debunked, Epi still said “I don’t care if I get lynched.”

You’re like arguing over if one play should have been considered a fumble or not looking at a bunch of camera angles and sub rules to see who won....but the score was 63 to 3.

Who cares?

I enjoy the minutae.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:35 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:24 pm Jackofhearts2005

Gun to head reads on all players GO GO GO

Still think you and Mac are bad.

Still think Scotty, DDL, Juliets, LC are good.

Kyle trending down but that’s largely cause I want him to vote earlier.

Marmot gth town I guess.

Wolbre gth scum.

Dom, INH, PW nothing. One is veeeery likely bad due to odd kill/silence choices and people being opinionated about which one to lynch.

Who did I miss?

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:36 pm**

Nova....deserves a read but I can’t remember any of their posts. Sorry.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:38 pm**

Hitman shouldn’t be full inactive cause Dizzy, while lame, is a strategic hit.

Think who would bus an inactive teammate and who wouldn’t.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:39 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:24 pm Jackofhearts2005

Gun to head reads on all players GO GO GO
Still think you and Mac are bad.

This just reads fake to me. Put most concisely while we're in the final stretch here:

What do you think Mac and I planned to do in BTSC entering this day phase?

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:40 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:24 pm Jackofhearts2005

Gun to head reads on all players GO GO GO
Still think you and Mac are bad.
This just reads fake to me. Put most concisely while we're in the final stretch here:

What do you think Mac and I planned to do in BTSC entering this day phase?

Do you plan lynch setups beyond “X looks bad. I bet we can get him lynched today”?

I don’t.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:41 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:40 pm

Do you plan lynch setups beyond “X looks bad. I bet we can get him lynched today”?

I don’t.

Do you think you looked bad? I sure as hell had no idea until I did my Epi-interaction reviews.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:42 pm**

I'd like to ask that everyone who is here now please remain here through the deadline. It's only 20 minutes.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:42 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:40 pm

Do you plan lynch setups beyond “X looks bad. I bet we can get him lynched today”?

I don’t.
Do you think you looked bad? I sure as hell had no idea until I did my Epi-interaction reviews.

Sure. I’m normally way more on top of stuff.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:43 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:40 pm

Do you plan lynch setups beyond “X looks bad. I bet we can get him lynched today”?

I don’t.
Do you think you looked bad? I sure as hell had no idea until I did my Epi-interaction reviews.
Sure. I’m normally way more on top of stuff.

Hot potato wolbre04?

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:44 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:40 pm

Do you plan lynch setups beyond “X looks bad. I bet we can get him lynched today”?

I don’t.
Do you think you looked bad? I sure as hell had no idea until I did my Epi-interaction reviews.
Sure. I’m normally way more on top of stuff.
Hot potato wolbre04?

I know I’m good more than I know you’re bad.

I’m up for it.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:44 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:35 pmKyle trending down but that’s largely cause I want him to vote earlier.

voting with mere seconds to spare before the poll closes is the only way i can feel anything anymore

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:45 pm**

[VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:45 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:45 pm [VOTE: wolbre04] aubergine

Nobody reads this guy as a civilian.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:45 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:35 pmKyle trending down but that’s largely cause I want him to vote earlier.
voting with mere seconds to spare before the poll closes is the only way i can feel anything anymore

Worst kink ever.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:45 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:35 pmKyle trending down but that’s largely cause I want him to vote earlier.
voting with mere seconds to spare before the poll closes is the only way i can feel anything anymore

Worst kink ever.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:46 pm**

I'm not supporting a hot potato.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:47 pm**

don't kinkshame me :\

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:47 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:46 pm I'm not supporting a hot potato.

Cool, why? Please answer quickly.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:47 pm**

Following around my top scum read. Again.

I better be wrong about you or this is gonna go down as my worst town game.

[VOTE: Wolbre] aubergine

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:48 pm**

I like the Jack lynch. Hot potato isn't on my list of favourite things right now.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:48 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:47 pm don't kinkshame me :\

I’ll send you the horse links I sent Epi.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:49 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:48 pm I like the Jack lynch. Hot potato isn't on my list of favourite things right now.

What do you think of wolbre?

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:49 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:48 pm I like the Jack lynch. Hot potato isn't on my list of favourite things right now.

I still think you’re good.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:50 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:47 pm Following around my top scum read. Again.

I better be wrong about you or this is gonna go down as my worst town game.

[VOTE: Wolbre] aubergine

If you're wrong about me wouldn't that contribute to a bad town game?

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:50 pm**

remind me the deal with wolbre

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:50 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:49 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 8:48 pm I like the Jack lynch. Hot potato isn't on my list of favourite things right now.
What do you think of wolbre?

Scum lean.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:50 pm**

I'm considering an alternate reality parallel universe wherein Long Con is Ganondorf and wolbre is that boss with the shield for a face that only takes damage from bombs.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:51 pm**

We need a vote on [VOTE: Pennywise] aubergine.

Posted: **Thu May 10, 2018 8:52 pm**

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