The Syndicate

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:46 pm We could stop shooting and play it as a 12 v 3 going forward. The orb and vest are huge in that case

but shooting is the fun part.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:44 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:42 pm That's super conservative considering we could have upwards of 5 shots a day and the mafia has to kill me twice.

Yes, it's a worst-case kind of thing if civilians shoot civilians every time.

Let's just shoot everyone but me.

[mention]nutella[/mention], how many guns did you receive?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:49 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:46 pm We could stop shooting and play it as a 12 v 3 going forward. The orb and vest are huge in that case

but shooting is the fun part.

Winning is ever more fun

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:53 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:49 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:46 pm We could stop shooting and play it as a 12 v 3 going forward. The orb and vest are huge in that case

but shooting is the fun part.

Winning is ever more fun

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:54 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:53 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:49 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:46 pm We could stop shooting and play it as a 12 v 3 going forward. The orb and vest are huge in that case

but shooting is the fun part.

Winning is ever more fun

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sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:57 pm Maybe I’ll reduce the day phase lengths to put more pressure on you guys cause this has been kinda borrrrrinnngg

That would make me even less likely to shoot.

Y'all chill out, I'm going to pop someone today.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:52 pm @nutella, how many guns did you receive?

2

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:00 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:52 pm nutella, how many guns did you receive?

2

Fake guns take priority. Your shot worked. Both guns were real. Both guns came from civilians. At some point this may have confirmatory power.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:57 pm Maybe I’ll reduce the day phase lengths to put more pressure on you guys cause this has been kinda borrrrrinnngg

If I ever run a game like this, players are gonna get handed cartoon style bombs that blow up at the end of the day if they don't yeet them at someone.

24/24 day night.

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention], do you still want nutella dead?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:11 pm @novaselinenever, do you still want nutella dead?

I do

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:11 pm novaselinenever, do you still want nutella dead?

I do

Why? Gimme the cliffs at least.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:11 pm novaselinenever, do you still want nutella dead?

But we could lynch her, and not risk a sabotaged gun. With her having received 2 and her shot going through (meaning the other wasn't sabotaged), the probability of a fabricated one amongst the people that still have a shot is high.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:14 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:11 pm novaselinenever, do you still want nutella dead?

I do

Why? Gimme the cliffs at least.

She is bad. I gave the cliffs to Sloonei during D1.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:57 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:57 pm Maybe I’ll reduce the day phase lengths to put more pressure on you guys cause this has been kinda borrrrrinnngg

That would make me even less likely to shoot.

Y'all chill out, I'm going to pop someone today.

How many guns did you receive?

Has anyone else claimed a gun?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:17 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:57 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:57 pm Maybe I’ll reduce the day phase lengths to put more pressure on you guys cause this has been kinda borrrrrinnngg

That would make me even less likely to shoot.

Y'all chill out, I'm going to pop someone today.

How many guns did you receive?

1

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:00 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:52 pm @nutella, how many guns did you receive?

2

are you told who you receive items from?

All my reads are pretty much gut. I am not as sure what to make of poutanko after some suggestions she made seemed to value gameplay over chaos, but my PoE would be her, Long Con, Audrey (neither having done much), speedchuck (gut read), and DFaraday (gut read). If a louder voice is scum, then I have a hard time saying anyone other than Sloonei.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:17 pm Has anyone else claimed a gun?

I gave one away, to someone that has not claimed.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:00 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:52 pm @nutella, how many guns did you receive?

2

are you told who you receive items from?

No lol of course not

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:06 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:57 pm Maybe I’ll reduce the day phase lengths to put more pressure on you guys cause this has been kinda borrrrrinnngg

If I ever run a game like this, players are gonna get handed cartoon style bombs that blow up at the end of the day if they don't yeet throw them at someone.

24/24 day night.

FTFY
yeet is not a word

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:18 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:17 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:57 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:57 pm Maybe I’ll reduce the day phase lengths to put more pressure on you guys cause this has been kinda borrrrrinnngg

That would make me even less likely to shoot.

Y'all chill out, I'm going to pop someone today.

How many guns did you receive?

1

That's actually not bad. I'd have thought you'd receive more which would make you a very good target for a fake gun, not only would it do you in when you shoot but it'd overrides other real guns and take them out of circulation.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:21 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:00 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:52 pm nutella, how many guns did you receive?

2

are you told who you receive items from?

No lol of course not

Ok, just wondering. I guess that would make things too easy.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:20 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:17 pm Has anyone else claimed a gun?

I gave one away, to someone that has not claimed.

Was it me?

Because if so, it got lost in the mail.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:23 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:20 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:17 pm Has anyone else claimed a gun?

I gave one away, to someone that has not claimed.

Was it me?

Because if so, it got lost in the mail.

I thought about giving you one as a congratulatory gift, but nah.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:19 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:19 am [VOTE: AudreyTheTattleTail] aubergine

Audrey is at school and also I have banned her from screens so she might need to be replaced.

So I get that you're her dad, and can do that. But in mafia world it seems unfair for one player to be able to ban another player from participating in a game. Sorry if my comment is over-stepping.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:20 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:17 pm Has anyone else claimed a gun?

I gave one away, to someone that has not claimed.

oh? want to call them out?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:27 pm 12 vs. 3

All reads can now be fake. Let's go win.

This just became a Heist with guns.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:19 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:19 am [VOTE: AudreyTheTattleTail] aubergine

Audrey is at school and also I have banned her from screens so she might need to be replaced.

So I get that you're her dad, and can do that. But in mafia world it seems unfair for one player to be able to ban another player from participating in a game. Sorry if my comment is over-stepping.

Just wait until Speedalee spends too much time on phones to do their homework.

Imma be keeping an eye on this thing throughout the day, but I’m still a bit too busy to dig into things. Please avoid shooting me.

I'm tempted to clean slate everyone (for whom there is not objective evidence). The biases drawn from the previous era of the game with two mafia team are a danger.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] shoot Audrey.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:41 pm My typical breakdown of the numbers is less applicable in a game with so many miscellaneous kills, so I won't [yet] determine the "official" POE size needed to win the game. I will estimate though. Here's our formula:

POE size needed to win = number of living mafia + number of mislynches available

POE = 3 + X

I will be very conservative and estimate X to 2. POE = 5.

Please give me your 5-player POE pools.

5 is too difficult. I'm more comfortable with this 9-player POE. Someone help me narrow this down:

DFaraday
Jackofhearts2005
Long Con
MacDougall
novaselinenever
nutella
Quin
sabie12
Sloonei

I can't do five yet either. Indeed I could presently argue every player in the game short of Jack as a mafioso. We have a lot of work to do, folks.

I still hold a distinctly town read on Mac, and I’m almost comfortable giving one to Jay also.

There’s my POE so far.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:50 pm I can't do five yet either. Indeed I could presently argue every player in the game short of Jack as a mafioso. We have a lot of work to do, folks.

Argue I'm one

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:41 pm My typical breakdown of the numbers is less applicable in a game with so many miscellaneous kills, so I won't [yet] determine the "official" POE size needed to win the game. I will estimate though. Here's our formula:

POE size needed to win = number of living mafia + number of mislynches available

POE = 3 + X

I will be very conservative and estimate X to 2. POE = 5.

Please give me your 5-player POE pools.

5 is too difficult. I'm more comfortable with this 9-player POE. Someone help me narrow this down:

DFaraday
Jackofhearts2005
Long Con
MacDougall
novaselinenever
nutella
Quin
sabie12
Sloonei

I'll help you. I shouldn't be there, and why would Jack the granny be there?

Trying to do something with DFaraday


Epi and I seem pretty normal. nutella gets some persona description. These are not reads.


Upon expansion they still aren't reads. They're "typically not indicative of anything" and "isn't necessarily suspect".


48 hours ago and his last post. He votes for a fun tie and does little else.

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Having a small number of posts is definitely not abnormal for DFaraday. In recent memory though, I don't think he has struggled to jam his hunting nose in there and produce something. Indeed, in his limited posts he often makes insightful points. He does more with his workload than it appears on the surface. This time though we have exactly nothing and a vote for a fun tie.

Not a fan.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:50 pm I can't do five yet either. Indeed I could presently argue every player in the game short of Jack as a mafioso. We have a lot of work to do, folks.

Argue I'm one

You're falling a bit short of a standard of activity and investigation that I am coming to anticipate from you. I cannot remember much about your content off-hand beyond your opposition to nutella. What else would you say are important components of your play so far?

[mention]Quin[/mention], I have a specific prompt for you as you suggested. Please review sabie12 and let me know what your impressions are.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:07 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:50 pm I can't do five yet either. Indeed I could presently argue every player in the game short of Jack as a mafioso. We have a lot of work to do, folks.

Argue I'm one

You're falling a bit short of a standard of activity and investigation that I am coming to anticipate from you. I cannot remember much about your content off-hand beyond your opposition to nutella. What else would you say are important components of your play so far?

My mind and attention have been somewhere else, but yeah she's my main suspect. Hmm outside of some mechanical remarks or observations about some dead dictators and a few other players, not much.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:28 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:20 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:17 pm Has anyone else claimed a gun?

I gave one away, to someone that has not claimed.

oh? want to call them out?

We’ll see. Idk whether it’s really AI if they claim or not, right now.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:14 pm My mind and attention have been somewhere else, but yeah she's my main suspect. Hmm outside of some mechanical remarks or observations about some dead dictators and a few other players, not much.

You know where to start then.

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] I expressed some beefs with you yesterday and I don’t see a response to them anywhere. I’m most interested in the difference I noted between a statement you made in this game and your entry into It’s Always Sunny.