The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:27 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:01 pm Host/spec option can be used to unvote.
No TK can also be used for this, as it cannot be hammered.

Oh, good to know

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:27 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:26 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:01 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:00 pm "To say we're both right" is a stupid way of putting it. I just mean I targeted Mac and nothing happened. Funnygirl said she saw me target Mac. I'm not lying. Why would she be lying?
I thought you didn't target mac?
I didn't. I wrote that shit wrong.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:29 pm**

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Tried to hammer me and failed. Got em.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:31 pm**

are we like absolutely sure there's 4 wolves?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:33 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:31 pm are we like absolutely sure there's 4 wolves?

More or less literal gods came down and said so.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:33 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:31 pm are we like absolutely sure there's 4 wolves?

My assumption is three.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:33 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:30 pm Mac flips:

Edward Kenway

Pirate Ship: You have a pirate ship! That’s awesome, dude. Using your pirate ship, you can make yourself untargetable to anyone that doesn’t also possess a ship. You can only use this ability every other night though, cause you have to restock your food and supplies. While on your ship, you can target someone to try and kill.

You are a Righteous Warrior and win when all the Heathenous Spies have been eliminated.

@everyone: here is mac's role. He died on Night 2. He almost certainly would not have neglected to use this ability outright. Do we think that he would have been more likely to use this ability on Night 1 or Night 2?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:33 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:33 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:31 pm are we like absolutely sure there's 4 wolves?
My assumption is three.

Four originally, three remaining.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:34 pm**

He is able to attempt a kill on nights that he uses the ability. One person died Night 1, Drago. That wasn't Mac's doing.
Three people died Night 2. Mac didn't kill himself. Mac almost certainly doesn't kill ted (he was town-reading him). It's possible Mac and I both targeted Turnip Head. That'd be goofy, but it's conceivable and stranger things have happened.
I could also see Mac withholding the kill on Night 1 if he had it, but I say that without having gone back to inspect the strength of his reads at the time. Or he could have targeted somebody that was protected.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:34 pm**

Anyway, right now there is a dichotomy between funnygurl and epignosis, and that needs to be resolved.
We could also massclaim, just to be sure.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:34 pm**

Notably, Epi's character has the same surname as Mac's. I know nothing about the source material, but perhaps Epi also has a pirate ship.

I have asked him twice about that and he ignored me.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:35 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:34 pm Anyway, right now there is a dichotomy between funnygurl and epignosis, and that needs to be resolved.
We could also massclaim, just to be sure.

Mass claiming would not resolve any of the questions I currently have.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:37 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:33 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:31 pm are we like absolutely sure there's 4 wolves?
My assumption is three.
Four originally, three remaining.

ok.

ik that anyone who's not mikey's gonna think this is bogus but mikey's still in my town core. w/ obv sloonei also in the town core there could only be one town in epi/tsp/lc/speedchuck

fmpov that means one town in tsp/lc/speedchuck

that's a weird world

anyone got a d2 eod votecount?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:37 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:35 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:34 pm Anyway, right now there is a dichotomy between funnygurl and epignosis, and that needs to be resolved.
We could also massclaim, just to be sure.
Mass claiming would not resolve any of the questions I currently have.

You wouldn't know that without the massclaim actually happening.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:37 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:02 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:14 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:11 pm Epi's practically lolcatting.

I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?
lolcatting?

What does that even mean?
obv!scumming.
No. I'm a civilian who is getting fucked because I got a shitty role that doesn't make any sense and nobody believes it.
You haven't made any attempt to explain it further. Even if you don't understand it, it's legal for you to give us more information. You never even answered my question about Mac's role.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:50 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:47 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:32 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
If Sloonei was roleblocked last night, with three kills, wouldn't that be a good mark on him?
I said I was a limited role blocker. Can't you read? I don't even understand my own role.
What do you understand about it? Are you suggesting that the limitation would explain Sloonei's ability going through as he claims?
My role made no sense to me. It's full of flair and fun talk, but nothing that actually tells me what it does. I asked about it and was told I was a "limited roleblocker." I left it at that. I don't know in what sense I'm limited.

If I'm mafia, do I claim that shit? Do I claim now?
is it anything like the "pirate ship" thing in Mac's role? That was something about preventing his target from targeting him. But calling that a limited roleblocker would be kind of a stretch imo.

Epi, please acknowledge these posts and answer the question and/or provide more details about your "confusing" role. The more you simply deflect by saying you don't understand it, the more it looks like you are covering something up.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:37 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:34 pm Notably, Epi's character has the same surname as Mac's. I know nothing about the source material, but perhaps Epi also has a pirate ship.

I have asked him twice about that and he ignored me.

You asked me about it? Sorry I didn't notice.

I have no pirate ships.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:37 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:34 pm Anyway, right now there is a dichotomy between funnygurl and epignosis, and that needs to be resolved.
We could also massclaim, just to be sure.

imo mass claiming would be anti-town rn. and i think if anyone else had good info from their roles they woulda already claimed it

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:38 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:35 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:34 pm Anyway, right now there is a dichotomy between funnygurl and epignosis, and that needs to be resolved.
We could also massclaim, just to be sure.
Mass claiming would not resolve any of the questions I currently have.
You wouldn't know that without the massclaim actually happening.

If somebody has information that answers any of our questions, they should claim it. A massclaim is unnecessary for that.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:39 pm**

I'm not trying to be confusing.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:40 pm**

nutella, did I answer your question? If not, please just ask the question.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:40 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:39 pm I'm not trying to be confusing.

I think she is saying that you've expressed confusion over your role, and these questions could help bring clarity.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:41 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:25 pm There is a spark to mafia tony's game that I'm not seeing here. I think he'd be my strongest town read. Turnip Head also made a slight push against him near the end of Day 2.

mac and ted would have been my strongest town reads today.

tough but fair

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:41 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:39 pm I'm not trying to be confusing.
I think she is saying that you've expressed confusion over your role, and these questions could help bring clarity.

Can you link me to the questions then?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:43 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:39 pm I'm not trying to be confusing.
I think she is saying that you've expressed confusion over your role, and these questions could help bring clarity.
Can you link me to the questions then?

i'm just following up on the same conversation that you're having. The question is if you're able to provide any more details about your role, I think. Or if the language of mac's role provides clarity? Is there something similar to his pirate ship in your role?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:43 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:39 pm I'm not trying to be confusing.
I think she is saying that you've expressed confusion over your role, and these questions could help bring clarity.
Can you link me to the questions then?

I just did a few posts above. Ffs pay attention.

I just want to know more details about your role. You just say it's confusing without giving any more information. We can help. What's confusing about it?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:44 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:39 pm I'm not trying to be confusing.
I think she is saying that you've expressed confusion over your role, and these questions could help bring clarity.
Can you link me to the questions then?
I just did a few posts above. Ffs pay attention.

I just want to know more details about your role. You just say it's confusing without giving any more information. We can help. What's confusing about it?

I wrote about that FFS pay attention!

There's nothing in my role about a ship.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:45 pm**

Allow me to reiterate.

The more you simply deflect by saying you don't understand it, the more it looks like you are covering something up.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:45 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:34 pm Notably, Epi's character has the same surname as Mac's. I know nothing about the source material, but perhaps Epi also has a pirate ship.

I have asked him twice about that and he ignored me.
You asked me about it? Sorry I didn't notice.

I have no pirate ships.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:45 pm**

You have answered that there is no ship, great. That's something. Give me more. What is confusing about how your role works?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:45 pm**

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]
Have you claimed a role yet? If not, please do.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:45 pm**

This is so stupid. I'm going to make dinner.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:46 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:45 pm You have answered that there is no ship, great. That's something. Give me more. What is confusing about how your role works?

The word ‘limited’ presumably

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:46 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:45 pm You have answered that there is no ship, great. That's something. Give me more. What is confusing about how your role works?

Shall I quote my role? It's written in video game speak.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:48 pm**

I kind of assume you shouldn't quote your role PM directly; consult Nanook first. Otherwise try to explain the gist of what it says without a direct quote, even if it doesn't make much sense to you.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:49 pm**

I'm not doing that. I told you I'm a limited roleblocker, which is what the host told me. If that's not enough, sorry.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:53 pm**

Did you attempt to ask further about the "limited" aspect? I feel like you shouldn't just be in the dark about how your role works.

I think that you are holding something back.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:54 pm**

I still want answers to my question about mac. Knowing what we know about mac and this game, do we think it is more likely that he used his pirate ship on Night 1 or Night 2? This has major implications.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:55 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:53 pm Did you attempt to ask further about the "limited" aspect? I feel like you shouldn't just be in the dark about how your role works.

I think that you are holding something back.

I didn't ask about that. I accepted what I was told.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:55 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:54 pm I still want answers to my question about mac. Knowing what we know about mac and this game, do we think it is more likely that he used his pirate ship on Night 1 or Night 2? This has major implications.

Night 1.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:55 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:54 pm I still want answers to my question about mac. Knowing what we know about mac and this game, do we think it is more likely that he used his pirate ship on Night 1 or Night 2? This has major implications.
Night 1.

Why?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:58 pm**

Why aren't you lynching Long Con? That fucker tried to take me down when JJJ was on me. I saw that shit. Nobody is talking about.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:59 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:58 pm Why aren't you lynching Long Con? That fucker tried to take me down when JJJ was on me. I saw that shit. Nobody is talking about.

We have 72 hours and it's lylo.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:00 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:58 pm Why aren't you lynching Long Con? That fucker tried to take me down when JJJ was on me. I saw that shit. Nobody is talking about.
We have 72 hours and it's lylo.

And?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:00 pm**

I also don't know what exactly the poll looked like when LC swooped in. I was making dinner and forgot we could be approaching the hammer so quickly. I didn't have an eye on the poll.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:01 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:58 pm Why aren't you lynching Long Con? That fucker tried to take me down when JJJ was on me. I saw that shit. Nobody is talking about.
We have 72 hours and it's lylo.
And?

We shouldn't be lynching anyone at this exact moment.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:03 pm**

Given how relevant it could end up being, perhaps someone should read through the thread and calculate day 2's votes by hand.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:05 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:03 pm Given how relevant it could end up being, perhaps someone should read through the thread and calculate day 2's votes by hand.

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] says he's got the poll saved, he just hasn't updated the front page with it yet.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:06 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:03 pm Given how relevant it could end up being, perhaps someone should read through the thread and calculate day 2's votes by hand.

Did mac sail away on his boat on night 1 or night 2?

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:10 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:06 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:03 pm Given how relevant it could end up being, perhaps someone should read through the thread and calculate day 2's votes by hand.
Did mac sail away on his boat on night 1 or night 2?

I do not know. In all honesty, I do not understand how the role works with only how it is written. Is it a commute+vigi every other night? A commute/vigi alternating? A commute every other night with a 1x vig that can only be used the same night as a commute?
I am looking at all the flips right now.

Posted: **Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:12 pm**

Edward Kenway

Pirate Ship: You have a pirate ship! That’s awesome, dude. Using your pirate ship, you can make yourself untargetable to anyone that doesn’t also possess a ship. You can only use this ability every other night though, cause you have to restock your food and supplies. While on your ship, you can target someone to try and kill.

You are a Righteous Warrior and win when all the Heathenous Spies have been eliminated.

I see no ambiguity there.

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