The Syndicate

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:32 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:31 pm I call Alison a villager, then she re-enters the thread and does this.

yeah alison isn't a villager

like this doesn't ever come from a wolf pushing town does it



lol me



i probably owe you numerous apologies dya

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

appreciate the folks helping me out today

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:12 pm honestly dya has such conviction in alison flipping red that they're either just v or it's the stupid fucking bus thing and i dont think it's the stupid fucking bus thing

yeah
dya never taking their foot off the gas and the sheer insistence feels like a villagery tunnel

i heavily heavily doubt this is a bus here - it'd have started early d1 and continued even after they lost a buddy - which is entirely unnecessary

and the fact that dya is *still* townreading my slot even though im incredibly manic right now and even voting them is making me do brain somersaults

i might just give in and and drop my ego

idk what the fuck alison is doing but dya is doing at least 100x more

fuck it

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

no more joy_wowee

so wait
like
now what?
are wolves just hard bussing alison or?
i'm really having a hard time building a world around this
like
say alison flips red
who is a wolf

i think wagons could be v/v but dya is a bigger asset to town than a 0-posting alison

im legit annoyed at this point that she isnt posting - regardless of her alignment. its just super frustrating
i want to be right but im probably not if shes not going to bother to do anything to defend herself in the slightest

i don't think it would be that crazy for dya/alison to be v/v? definitely not weirder than w/w

i don't think c4 is villagy but have deferred to the multitudes saying omg hes soooo different from CoV. i don't want to have to read that game though, lolreading. Didn't that game have ITAs and weird mechanics and shit, how comparable is it really?

i may be coming around to marl V for nebulous reasons (unrelated to derp, which i ignore)

wasn't chloe JUST making memes on the last page that alison is town and we're all bad for voting her????

[note to self: 2 posts left]

i...

weh

sorry chloe

but

in case i die i want to make it clear im not at shield-levels of town on chloe and zack might be onto something



maybe it's my ego speaking but i think my uncharacteristically firm turn onto preferring the alison chop just now probably seals it, and until then it was really close and it had looked like i'd push for dya, and chloe following me on right at this moment is skeeving me out (plus the joywowee reference a bit mrr)

bronana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:55 pm c4's play this phase is just weird imo, he'll occasionally pop in to state these super confident reads like "X is town, Y is a wolf, you're all bad and dumb" then peaces out again

it's like he is expressing a ton of confidence but is not making much of an impact pushing those confident reads?

i also dont get his alison read even if she is villa

@staypositivefriend is outed if she says any of this is AI for me.

@Alison get in here, you're in the lead again.

Marluxion wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:20 pm so wait
like
now what?
are wolves just hard bussing alison or?
i'm really having a hard time building a world around this
like
say alison flips red
who is a wolf

idfk

the fact that her wagon has been primarily pushed by dya, and i dont read them as being w/w - and dya's sheer insistence is rather villagery - leads me to believe she wasnt a planned bus
i dont think anyone other than dya is really getting credit for this wagon so whats the point

wolves either took the approach of trying to shuttle votes elsewhere or beginning to bus when it became clear alison is going over no matter what

idk maybe c4? but hes nothing like CoV which is giving me pause

idk what the solve is regardless of her alignment rn
im just lost

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:22 pm i...

weh

sorry chloe

but

in case i die i want to make it clear im not at shield-levels of town on chloe and zack might be onto something

no you're fine idk what the hell im doing right now im like a chicken with its head cut off

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:23 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:55 pm c4's play this phase is just weird imo, he'll occasionally pop in to state these super confident reads like "X is town, Y is a wolf, you're all bad and dumb" then peaces out again

it's like he is expressing a ton of confidence but is not making much of an impact pushing those confident reads?

i also dont get his alison read even if she is villa

@staypositivefriend is outed if she says any of this is AI for me.

@Alison get in here, you're in the lead again.

lol wtf

Chloe wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:20 pm i think wagons could be v/v but dya is a bigger asset to town than a 0-posting alison

im legit annoyed at this point that she isnt posting - regardless of her alignment. its just super frustrating
i want to be right but im probably not if shes not going to bother to do anything to defend herself in the slightest

this post sketches me out a little specifically in worlds where Alison is a villager because of the extent to which it's appealing to things other than Dya and Alison's alignments ('dya is a bigger asset to town,' Alison's play is 'frustrating') to justify her vote

i'm not using the cov reasoning on c4 anymore and i dont love that chloe keeps repeating it, it's weak imo and he just looks bad right now

come to think of it though, in cov he also hard defended some villagers with his tmi and now i'm probably going to tunnel him regardless of alison's flip actually so glgl

tempted to self-meta the fuck out of things right now but holding off

im not a wolf i just dont know where the hell my head is at and i've never been in this position before (except maybe late shortnight 2 is similar) which has me like.. super anxious?

bruh im not hard-townreading c4 im just saying CoV *gives me pause* even tho i wanna look his way if alison is v

w not v

how is it that all you guys think I'm a wolf, but then follow my POE almost exactly

im making an ass out of myself jesus christ

ALSO I just had a totally unrelated thought, which is that the wolves are probably moderately annoyed by the me/Vulgard dynamic (I've seen a lot of players express the sentiment that I'm being underwhelming but they trust Vulgard, and even though my posts are plenty whelming I feel like wolves would be annoyed that they're getting denied 1-2 mischops on otherwise less "impressive" players just because we know each other well).


inconveniently I'm less sure who specifically falls into the annoyed-by-our-dynamic archetype. maybe Bronana?

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:31 pm how is it that all you guys think I'm a wolf, but then follow my POE almost exactly

i dont think you're a wolf

If Alison's in the lead by that much anyway I guess I don't really need to hide this anymore. I think she's acting like this because she's the JK.

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:31 pm how is it that all you guys think I'm a wolf, but then follow my POE almost exactly

turns out i don't actually think you're a wolf at the moment

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:32 pm I think she's acting like this because she's the JK.

dude shes basically a claimed VT lol

she came in yesterday to self-pres and said she thought it was EoD

no claim

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:33 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:31 pm how is it that all you guys think I'm a wolf, but then follow my POE almost exactly

turns out i don't actually think you're a wolf at the moment

give it 5 minutes

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:32 pm If Alison's in the lead by that much anyway I guess I don't really need to hide this anymore. I think she's acting like this because she's the JK.

why... what??
she came in yesterday thinking it was eod and didnt claim

and why wouldnt she have claimed at this point

why would she grief the game and not even remotely defend herself when she's at the bottom of the poe if shes a pr

this makes no sense

Chloe wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:33 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:32 pm I think she's acting like this because she's the JK.

dude shes basically a claimed VT lol

she came in yesterday to self-pres and said she thought it was EoD

no claim

I could definitely see her bullshitting thinking that as town.

FUCK that was definitely the wrong way to do it.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:32 pm If Alison's in the lead by that much anyway I guess I don't really need to hide this anymore. I think she's acting like this because she's the JK.

I think this is almost certainly true (in the sense of being something you believe) regardless of your alignment, so ... not W/W?

(I have reason to suspect she's not actually the JK but that's besides the point)

c4 can you expand on why you think she's JK and show some receipts
because this feels super BS

why would she not have claimed 24+ hours ago like she did in CoV - she knows shes in contention

c4 what are you doing

I dont think she's JK, she's just a wolf

(also just for the record it would be great if people would stop spewing themselves non-PR

bearing in mind that the wolves can automatically take three people out of the PR pool, you're making it really easy for them to PoE the actual PRs, whoever they are)

people should be mindful of how they engage in this discussion considering its easy to spew yourself as VT (hi)

Chloe wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:36 pm c4 can you expand on why you think she's JK and show some receipts
because this feels super BS

why would she not have claimed 24+ hours ago like she did in CoV - she knows shes in contention

Rarely see her act anything like this as either alignment under any circumstances, but she made a point of being withdrawn in CoV because she was a PR. In CoV she was the only way with any real traction when she claimed. Here she could actually just self pres.

The thought did cross my mind that Alison could be a pr to explain why the weird stuff was happening according to others (I've mentioned multiple times I've been pretty high key agonizing about the Dya/alison dynamic) but I wrote that off when Alison thought eod was yesterday and didn't claim. On a side note, I have briefly considered that that Chloe's response to Alison doing that might not be "wolf finding a reason to clear a villager" but rather "wolf being annoyed that wolfmate boxed themselves out of a claim possibility".

I'm not sure why c4 specifically thought jailkeeper given that c4 has been defending Alison for a while - well before Amy claimed tracker - but maybe I'm just misinterpreting that

sunbae wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:40 pm I'm not sure why c4 specifically thought jailkeeper given that c4 has been defending Alison for a while - well before Amy claimed tracker - but maybe I'm just misinterpreting that

Yeah I didn't have exactly a JK read on her before Amy's claim, but also I was mainly shielding her earlier because I just thought she was town. This was to explain her current behavior specifically.

Ah, gotcha

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:23 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:55 pm c4's play this phase is just weird imo, he'll occasionally pop in to state these super confident reads like "X is town, Y is a wolf, you're all bad and dumb" then peaces out again

it's like he is expressing a ton of confidence but is not making much of an impact pushing those confident reads?

i also dont get his alison read even if she is villa

@staypositivefriend is outed if she says any of this is AI for me.

@Alison get in here, you're in the lead again.

anyways besides the fact that c4 has spent all day hardshielding Alison I think this post is indicative of him genuinely believing that she was a PR, like, if you read the post as 'get in here Alison, you need to claim' it fits ~perfectly

Arete wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:45 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:23 pm

bronana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:55 pm c4's play this phase is just weird imo, he'll occasionally pop in to state these super confident reads like "X is town, Y is a wolf, you're all bad and dumb" then peaces out again

it's like he is expressing a ton of confidence but is not making much of an impact pushing those confident reads?

i also dont get his alison read even if she is villa

@staypositivefriend is outed if she says any of this is AI for me.

@Alison get in here, you're in the lead again.

anyways besides the fact that c4 has spent all day hardshielding Alison I think this post is indicative of him genuinely believing that she was a PR, like, if you read the post as 'get in here Alison, you need to claim' it fits ~perfectly

yeah

can we call a moratorium on cov

I'm sick of hearing about it, especially since I have zero connection or knowledge there

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re: arete dude in the world I'm a wolf and you and vulgard are two villagers with this dynamic, you're not viable moslunches anytime soon and I simply wouldn't bother

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re: c4 believing Alison is the jk

lol

Yeah, I think it also explains why c4 has been a bit hesitant in the thread today cause they didn't really want to defend too obviously etc

hi

gonna stay on alison i think

will put together something resembling a legacy between now and eod

sunbae wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:46 pm Yeah, I think it also explains why c4 has been a bit hesitant in the thread today cause they didn't really want to defend too obviously etc

No that's just what I normally do as the game goes on lol

im trying to give you villa credit plz dont take that away from me

i really want alison to be jk doing the fake thought it was eod thing that chloe was mentioning for max lulz

are we piling on dya in that case or pivoting elsewhere?

I didn't want the towncred intensifies

hey thats my line lol

sunbae wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:51 pm i really want alison to be jk doing the fake thought it was eod thing that chloe was mentioning for max lulz

are we piling on dya in that case or pivoting elsewhere?

Never should've gotten off

idk, i feel like im comfortable with my worldview atm