The Syndicate

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:No way! Don't tell me it's over. I was using the poll time of 9:07 and was going to swoop in at the last second.

Yup, 10 minutes before the period ends.

Linki: Dang, RIP juliets.

Oh, shows what I know.

Every time I try to get involved on an auction... LOL.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Every time I try to get involved on an auction... LOL.

Its a cut throat business.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Every time I try to get involved on an auction... LOL.

Its a cut throat business.

Well, next time I'll TRY not to fail. :P

Okay, so... thoughts on today's lynch?

Wouldn't it be best to get Water Works? Has there been only one Beatdown awarded? I may be wrong since I was dead for a bit and wasn't paying full attention, but that means if we eliminate WW it should get rid of a kill, right?

We've already eliminated the RR's, so I don't know if the beatdown is around if they would gain both kills. Probably not, but I'd have to look it up.

I think we should focus on WW today, if no one kills tonight, that would be a good sign, though not for certain, that the beatdown was never claimed, or is gone.



4) Beatdown: This power allows anyone with BTSC to take over the night kill of one of the mafia teams. In order to do so, all members of the mafia team must be dead (at least 1 of them must have been killed with help from a member doing the beatdown), and then the night kill can be claimed. Can be played prior to the requirements occurring, but will only go through once they are met. Bids for this power can be done privately. - Starts at $200

rip juliets ;(

Who could be WW though? Is there any theory or consensus on that front?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Who could be WW though? Is there any theory or consensus on that front?

We can rule out you, Bass, TH and bea. You, Bass, and bea all replaced inactives who could not have killed on every other night, and TH is probably a pink.

I thought BR was on Epi's team, but my reasoning for that I realized was flawed.

That makes sense.

Who would you think WW is then, MM?

I don't know, but I'd like to discuss it to narrow it down.

We can't completely discount bea actually, but I doubt she is WW.

Some players I don't have reads on or really even spent time observing are Hannah, fingers, and Lorab.

Another thought, I've been under the impression that LC is in a group, but I still can't pinpoint which one. I don't see him being a red or pink. You've said you think the reds are all dead MP. How certain are you? And since he's been hounding TH all game, he's probably not on his team. That leaves baby blues and greens. If he was in the baby blues, his team would have bought hotels way back when they had gathered their group. That leaves the greens.

What are your thoughts MP?

Your analysis is astute, MM. I also doubt LC is WW, just based on his behavior.

HannaK, LoRab, and splints would all be good places to look. LoRab has been least active though, so I do wonder if she would have missed more PMs, but I'm not sure.

HannaK has been incredibly blendy, so I think if I had to guess right now, I might guess her. Not sure about splints at all though.

The green is Llama's group. LC did take up the mantle of coming after me once Llama died. I was also suspecting juliets of being a green for the way she followed llama's lead during his lynch. I could see LC being a green, but I could also see him not having money to buy the hotels on his baby blue, since he spent so much on the Auto-Find and potentially more for the Beatdown. Either way he's probably in a group that hasn't bought hotels, so someone with him was either low on money or died.

Although the $100 houses aren't on the front page anymore, so I guess we'll see if anything pops up on the updated board...

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Who could be WW though? Is there any theory or consensus on that front?

We can rule out you, Bass, TH and bea. You, Bass, and bea all replaced inactives who could not have killed on every other night, and TH is probably a pink.

I thought BR was on Epi's team, but my reasoning for that I realized was flawed.

What about BR as Water Works, then?

Oh, that's right, Llama was green, so maybe I was right about LC and Llama being connected after all!

BR could be WW. I don't remember much from her this game. What are your thoughts on WW, TH?

I need to go over MM's evidence that bea can't be WW. I've also got BR on my short list. I don't think it's splintsy, because she tried to say Keys was Water Works in order to say I was a railroad.

Turnip Head wrote:The green is Llama's group. LC did take up the mantle of coming after me once Llama died. I was also suspecting juliets of being a green for the way she followed llama's lead during his lynch. I could see LC being a green, but I could also see him not having money to buy the hotels on his baby blue, since he spent so much on the Auto-Find and potentially more for the Beatdown. Either way he's probably in a group that hasn't bought hotels, so someone with him was either low on money or died.

It only would have cost $250 per person. Since no one else had hotels at the time, it couldn't have been that hard to drop the cash on it.

If Epig didn't have such carefree spending habits, the reds may have had hotels in a single turn.

The evidence was the bea replaced Mongoose who wasn't around Night 2 (bea replaced in on Day 3 I think). But BWT was still alive on Night 2, so if he did have an inactive partner it makes sense to have them make the kills. Also bea hasn't posted since Day 9, so I don't think that she would send in a kill without checking in. That's not like her.

Bea was in jail this past Day/Night phase, I noticed, so she probably wasn't allowed to post.

Turnip Head wrote:Bea was in jail this past Day/Night phase, I noticed, so she probably wasn't allowed to post.

She also paid money to get out.

If you go to jail, are you forced to leave after one turn or is it by choice. Either way, why would she leave of her own will? She only was sent there last turn.

I think you have one chance to roll doubles and get out, otherwise you have to pay to leave. I don't think you can stay in there longer than one cycle.

Oh, I guess my knowledge of how the jail worked was incomplete.

Linki: Yep, I reread it.

It's also still possible that MM is Water Works. After all, WW learned DF's role on night 7:

Board movements wrote:10. DFaraday: Started on Kentucky Avenue. Moved 7 (2+5) to Water Works (3+3*4=$24 to WW from bank, learn role).

Turnip Head wrote:It's also still possible that MM is Water Works. After all, WW learned DF's role on night 7:

Board movements wrote:10. DFaraday: Started on Kentucky Avenue. Moved 7 (2+5) to Water Works (3+3*4=$24 to WW from bank, learn role).

Turnip Head wrote:It's also still possible that MM is Water Works. After all, WW learned DF's role on night 7:

Board movements wrote:10. DFaraday: Started on Kentucky Avenue. Moved 7 (2+5) to Water Works (3+3*4=$24 to WW from bank, learn role).

I am not. But I guess it's a possibility that I can't deny.

I would love for MM to be Water Works, but wouldn't DFaraday have said something to lead us in that direction? I'll check his posts.

Well to do so, DFaraday would have had to admit that MetalMarsh was right about him.

True, but it's like I described before... Mexican standoff, you as WW, Lorab as RR... if DF was just waiting for WW to come after him, his only real recourse would be to take WW down with him. At least that's how I would have felt.

I mean, DFaraday tried to NK Metalmarsh. It just didn't work.

DFaraday wrote:Well, I don't know what to tell you, MM. Maybe someone was able to protect you last night from the real killer?

EBWOP: 100 is an awful lot of percent, MM.

DFaraday wrote:Even if, as you assume, I am a railroad, I think everyone should think about who the real threats are. At this point, everyone who is not your color is your enemy, and I'm not one of the guys who've been hoarding special abilities. I have no tricks, no allegiance, and let's face it, no real strategy (I'm really off my mark this entire game).

2 posts from DF yesterday, and I'm not sure what you mean TH.

Linki: When did you call Lorab a RR?

Linki 2: That's because I roleblocked him TH. He must have known it, and his posts read like a cornered baddy.

TH thought Lorab was an RR earlier, and I thought that he might have been using the Utilities role-learn for that knowledge. But none of that panned out.

DFaraday knew that only one person knew his role, and that that person was Water Works. But he can't just come out and say that, because it would mean that he was a baddie, too.

Long Con wrote:TH thought Lorab was an RR earlier, and I thought that he might have been using the Utilities role-learn for that knowledge. But none of that panned out.

You also seem to have a lot of knowledge about what properties are alive and dead in this game. Then again I've trusted your intuition because I've had you pegged as a color all this time. But you were slow to accept the possibility of TH being pink.

Turnip Head wrote:DFaraday knew that only one person knew his role, and that that person was Water Works. But he can't just come out and say that, because it would mean that he was a baddie, too.

I don't know what else to say to you except that I was lucky. I had it narrowed down pretty far, and I think pretty accurately. I was also afraid my death was imminent which is why I used the RB.

I agree that MM makes sense to be WW but idk that he would be that obvious if it were true and the missed kill still bothers me with him as well.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:TH thought Lorab was an RR earlier, and I thought that he might have been using the Utilities role-learn for that knowledge. But none of that panned out.

You also seem to have a lot of knowledge about what properties are alive and dead in this game. Then again I've trusted your intuition because I've had you pegged as a color all this time. But you were slow to accept the possibility of TH being pink.

LOL, "a lot of knowledge". You mean because I think the reds were already killed. That's literally it. My other big "knowledge" really didn't pan out, as you said, since TH might actually not be Water Works.

fingersplints wrote:I agree that MM makes sense to be WW but idk that he would be that obvious if it were true and the missed kill still bothers me with him as well.

Which players currently alive does it NOT bother you to have missed a kill? Is Metalmarsh MORE unlikely to skip/miss a kill than some other player?

'Cause... it happened.

Long Con wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I agree that MM makes sense to be WW but idk that he would be that obvious if it were true and the missed kill still bothers me with him as well.

Which players currently alive does it NOT bother you to have missed a kill? Is Metalmarsh MORE unlikely to skip/miss a kill than some other player?

'Cause... it happened.

I'm not disputing that it happened. I just find a player who is absent more likely to miss a kill then someone posting a lot. For example, BR or Lorab being WW makes more sense to me from that aspect.

Turnip Head wrote:I need to go over MM's evidence that bea can't be WW. I've also got BR on my short list. I don't think it's splintsy, because she tried to say Keys was Water Works in order to say I was a railroad.

I was very wrong on both accounts, but you are correct that I would not have put forth the idea of keys being WW if that were my role.

So... who wants to discuss things today?

Me!

On a side note, LC do you have a record of SVS's lynch? I think TH and Hanna voted SVS, but I can't recall who the players who voted TH were. I do know there were six of them.

So who are we voting today?

I'd still like to get WW.

Dunno yet, but I'm going to look at Hanna now.

Good idea. That's where I'd vote if I had to right now, I think, but I'm still not sure.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:On a side note, LC do you have a record of SVS's lynch? I think TH and Hanna voted SVS, but I can't recall who the players who voted TH were. I do know there were six of them.

Sorry, don't have it. Gotta read back for that info, I'm afraid.

What's the deal with Hanna?

She has just been EXTREMELY blendy and I can't rule her out from being WW.

But I don't really have a case for her being WW in particular.

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:On a side note, LC do you have a record of SVS's lynch? I think TH and Hanna voted SVS, but I can't recall who the players who voted TH were. I do know there were six of them.

Sorry, don't have it. Gotta read back for that info, I'm afraid.

What's the deal with Hanna?

It was splints, BR, SVS, juliets, LC and MM who voted for me, and I believe that was the order of them as well.

For me, it's between BR and MM for who I think is Water Works. I don't think it's Hanna or Bea. They've both been blendy but I think they're civs, or WERE civs rather. I think the MM roleblock plan was a good one, but possibly a plan that was cooked up with the confidence of knowing it would work. I think he found out DF's role.