The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:31 pm**

I think our best option now is to orchestrate a tie so that no one is lynched....but this will require MP, bea, and rabbit to all be on board......a task which seems.....unlikely.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:32 pm**

Why a tie? If thy all vote bf he should be lynched

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:33 pm**

Maybe bf voted bea to look good when i turned out civvie. He knew most votes would go my way

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:34 pm**

Lena Hyena wrote:OK, I just have to go with my gut here:

If Sophie is good, then she is being truthful that Niju is bad. That means there is only one baddie left.

Fs is vouching for bea hard out. A bold play if they were baddie teammates, but this late in the game it might be worth it. But in this scenario they can't both be bad. And I don't see why fs would be vouching for bea if bea is bad and fs is not.

On the other hand, if Sophie is bad, she could still be a lone wolf.

I agree with the assessment that there are elements of everyone that seem civ. So I need to go back to the things I see as evidence. Voting patterns. The posts made by baddies. Who has caught baddies. Etc.

These things, for me, all collectively say to me that sophie is the most likely candidate to be bad.

And sophie, if you are who I think you are claiming to be, then I hope your death does bring us information.

My vote is worth zero, but at least it indicates who I think is the right person to lynch today. Maybe I won't feel this way if you are still around tomorrow soph. I dunno. But after not following my gut yesterday, I need to today.

I think I agree with this.

Although it now appears Sophie has blatantly role claimed...

Why are people saying BF is bad now, all of a sudden? I just can't see how that's the case.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:34 pm**

If rabbit, bea, MP, and I all vote bf, we should be OK.

However, I still can't decide if bf or MP is the more likely baddie. BF's rush to vote bea today while there was still cray cray discussion going on doesn't look good.

Also, Ithink rabbit is en route from China or something? So he likely won't be around to vote.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:35 pm**

MP, unless someone else wants to argue with Sophie's role claim, I don't see how she could be lying. No one unrevealed has died since the role was used except BR, and I don't think BR was that role.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:36 pm**

Sophie wrote:Maybe bf voted bea to look good when i turned out civvie. He knew most votes would go my way

Yeah, I think that's what's going on. Then tomorrow he would turn on bea, who obviously would've voted to save herself.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:37 pm**

Canucklehead wrote:If rabbit, bea, MP, and I all vote bf, we should be OK.

However, I still can't decide if bf or MP is the more likely baddie. BF's rush to vote bea today while there was still cray cray discussion going on doesn't look good.

Also, Ithink rabbit is en route from China or something? So he likely won't be around to vote.

Why are you considering me? I don't understand.

Canucklehead wrote:MP, unless someone else wants to argue with Sophie's role claim, I don't see how she could be lying. No one unrevealed has died since the role was used except BR, and I don't think BR was that role.

This is crazy, since when was mafia about role outing?

I agree with you, but now if she is lying, the real BH has to come out and reveal him or herself.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:38 pm**

Yeah, but now that it's happened, we can't pretend it didn't and lynch Sophie.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:39 pm**

I'm not disagreeing, Canuck, not at all. I'm just trying to consider things here.

If Sophie has made this claim now, why didn't she do it earlier? That's what has me wondering.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:40 pm**

I know she was never in huge danger of being lynched previously, at least not like how she is now, but something is off about all of this.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:40 pm**

....and if she's lying, than good on her for a convincing lie. I think this actually IS a part of mafia. That's why Epi built so many info/false info/bts shenanigans into his game. It allows for there to be uncertianty in plays like this,....and (to answer your question) is also the reason I have uncertainty still about you.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:41 pm**

Going outside to play with my dog for a few minutes! Keep talking, I'll brb

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:42 pm**

The only thing that makes me wonder about this is if sophie has been on for days about llama, why would she have tried to kill nijuu first who was surely to be lynched again instead of llama

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:42 pm**

Canucklehead wrote:....and if she's lying, than good on her for a convincing lie. I think this actually IS a part of mafia. That's why Epi built so many info/false info/bts shenanigans into his game. It allows for there to be uncertianty in plays like this,....and (to answer your question) is also the reason I have uncertainty still about you.

This doesn't make sense, Canuck.

Why are you considering uncertainty about me and not her?

You said the baddies have mimic roles, why can't the baddies have a role checker of the players they kill? Epi typically has a role like this, and it would make sense given that Jessica Rabbit requires players to claim a role.

This smells fishy.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:44 pm**

fingersplints wrote:The only thing that makes me wonder about this is if sophie has been on for days about llama, why would she have tried to kill nijuu first who was surely to be lynched again instead of llama

This is a good point.

I think Canuck's willingness to take Sophie's role hint at face value, when otherwise she is considering uncertainty about me, in combination with Sophie's timing, is scaring me. Or maybe it's just the paranoia.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:45 pm**

I need to vote now because I have to leave for a few hours. Splints is vouching for bea, and if what Sophie is saying is true, then I wouldn't want to vote for her either, but I just don't know if I buy it.

That said, I do not feel comfortable voting BF.

Ugh. This game.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:46 pm**

I'm paranoid too!

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:46 pm**

I'm getting paranoid too, but Canuck pretty much led the lynches on bass and nijuu. She'd have to be the worst teammate ever if she is bad

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:46 pm**

Lena Hyena wrote:I'm paranoid too!

What are you thinking, LenaGolden? Help me out here.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:47 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:....and if she's lying, than good on her for a convincing lie. I think this actually IS a part of mafia. That's why Epi built so many info/false info/bts shenanigans into his game. It allows for there to be uncertianty in plays like this,....and (to answer your question) is also the reason I have uncertainty still about you.
This doesn't make sense, Canuck.

Why are you considering uncertainty about me and not her?

You said the baddies have mimic roles, why can't the baddies have a role checker of the players they kill? Epi typically has a role like this, and it would make sense given that Jessica Rabbit requires players to claim a role.

This smells fishy.

It does make sense, actually. No need to be condescending

It is a possibility.
I am considering it.
i'm reading Sophie as genuine, and you as likely genuine, which is why I am considering a bf lynch.

.....but I'm uncertain as hell about all of you.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:48 pm**

fingersplints wrote:I'm getting paranoid too, but Canuck pretty much led the lynches on bass and nijuu. She'd have to be the worst teammate ever if she is bad

Bass was a goner, though, and if Canuck is bad, then I don't see how Blooper was bad. Occam's Razor says one of Canuck or Blooper is Maroon.

I've trusted Canuck for a while now, and for good reason. I'm not about ready to give up that trust. That said, her recent posts don't make any sense to me whatsoever.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:48 pm**

BF has schooled us all, I think.

I'm paranoid, too...but I'd rather be wrong about lynching bf than wrong about lynching Sophie.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:49 pm**

I am not Maroon. I've said that several times.

Ninja was not Maroon, either. I think Maroon died loooong ago.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:49 pm**

Canucklehead wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:....and if she's lying, than good on her for a convincing lie. I think this actually IS a part of mafia. That's why Epi built so many info/false info/bts shenanigans into his game. It allows for there to be uncertianty in plays like this,....and (to answer your question) is also the reason I have uncertainty still about you.
This doesn't make sense, Canuck.

Why are you considering uncertainty about me and not her?

You said the baddies have mimic roles, why can't the baddies have a role checker of the players they kill? Epi typically has a role like this, and it would make sense given that Jessica Rabbit requires players to claim a role.

This smells fishy.
It does make sense, actually. No need to be condescending

It is a possibility.
I am considering it.
i'm reading Sophie as genuine, and you as likely genuine, which is why I am considering a bf lynch.

.....but I'm uncertain as hell about all of you.

That was condescending? Odd. Sorry if you took it that way. I don't mean anything that way at all.

I just don't understand how this jives with what you've been saying though. You said you're considering BF or me as bad, but you didn't really say that about Sophie. Now you say that you're reading Sophie as genuine and me as "likely genuine", and you don't even say why you are considering BF other than what seems to be apparent process of elimination, is that correct? Or am I misunderstanding?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:50 pm**

Canucklehead wrote:BF has schooled us all, I think.

I'm paranoid, too...but I'd rather be wrong about lynching bf than wrong about lynching Sophie.

But why do you think this? Elimination?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:50 pm**

That is correct. Process of elimination.
Also, I'm happier being wrong about bf than wrong about Sophie.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:51 pm**

Why are you happier being wrong about bf?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:51 pm**

Duly noted, thanks. I just was confused why BF?

I don't know, I don't really have any reason to distrust BF at this point.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:52 pm**

Because I think Sophie's power is valuable. I don't know about bf's. I don't have a lot of valuable slots left open on my spreadsheet.

linki: that ^^ was to fs

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:53 pm**

Fuckballs. I have to leave in , like, 2 minutes.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:54 pm**

I honestly would vote bea at this point if Splints wasn't vouching for her, because I don't know what the heck's going on with Sophie, and I just can't vote for BF when I have no reason to distrust him now and he's not even around.

Linki: Yeah, same here.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:54 pm**

MP, how do you feel about setting up a tie? Give bf time to talk, give us time to sort shit out?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:55 pm**

Honestly... bf... like, even I'm considering this could be right!

But... he did vote aces first, but then I guess they had a whole baddie team that could come in and vote MM, so it was safe. It gave bf a lot of cred. He was also amongst first to raise bass and niju as possibly bad...

Did he just come off as super civ because he knew who all the baddies were? Lol... I can see a scenario in which its bf, actually.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:55 pm**

Canucklehead wrote:MP, how do you feel about setting up a tie? Give bf time to talk, give us time to sort shit out?

A tie of Sophie and bea?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:55 pm**

We are going into a baddie kill night. I still think a tie is a bad idea. If we have two baddies left that is just going to let them even the numbers

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:56 pm**

Lena Hyena wrote:Honestly... bf... like, even I'm considering this could be right!

But... he did vote aces first, but then I guess they had a whole baddie team that could come in and vote MM, so it was safe. It gave bf a lot of cred. He was also amongst first to raise bass and niju as possibly bad...

Did he just come off as super civ because he knew who all the baddies were? Lol... I can see a scenario in which its bf, actually.

In theory, that could make the baddie anyone though, couldn't it?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:56 pm**

I would much rather lynch bf than do a no lynch/tie.....but I don't seem to have the support I need.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:57 pm**

Canuck - I really don't think a tie is a good idea.... if we are being fooled, there could be two baddies left. Like - it could be you and sophie, for instance.

A tie seems like a really bad idea to me.

I'm happier being wrong about sophie. At least if we lynch sophie and she was honest we know about rabbit and niju. Otherwise we just are still paranoid.

But I think a tie would just leave us still paranoid tomorrow. Make a call and go with it. Bf or sophie.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:57 pm**

fingersplints wrote:We are going into a baddie kill night. I still think a tie is a bad idea. If we have two baddies left that is just going to let them even the numbers

Very good point.

What are you going to do? I feel kind of lost as to what I should do at the moment.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:57 pm**

Lena Hyena wrote:Canuck - I really don't think a tie is a good idea.... if we are being fooled, there could be two baddies left. Like - it could be you and sophie, for instance.

A tie seems like a really bad idea to me.

I'm happier being wrong about sophie. At least if we lynch sophie and she was honest we know about rabbit and niju. Otherwise we just are still paranoid.

But I think a tie would just leave us still paranoid tomorrow. Make a call and go with it. Bf or sophie.

This is a good point.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:58 pm**

But I think... I was wrong, and Canuck is right.

I think bf might be the one. Sucks to be bf if he is lynched without right of reply, but we can't just let baddies survive, the numbers could be too tight.

Something gotta give!

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:59 pm**

I'm going to go ahead and vote bf because I have to leave. I believe he's the last baddie, and has played an excellent game.
I hope other people will also vote bf. If not, I hope we will work out a tie to save civs. Worst case, I think losing bea is the less bad option (sorry bea).

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:59 pm**

Ugh. Well, I have to go. I guess I'll vote bea. I don't know. I just can't make a decision on Sophie or BF right now; I'm not willing to vote Sophie in case she isn't lying and I'm not willing to vote BF for basically no reason.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:00 pm**

I also lean towards trusting sophie because...

Rabbit is silenced. I think he WAS targetted by herman last night. I think herman insanifies/silences/curses etc good people... and kills baddies.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:00 pm**

Whoa whoa whoa. Don't lynch BF. I have worked too hard for this. You should trust your instinct. I think you've pegged me correctly. I chose not to do anything last night. The only person I'm sure of being good is MP.

Linki

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:01 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:We are going into a baddie kill night. I still think a tie is a bad idea. If we have two baddies left that is just going to let them even the numbers
Very good point.

What are you going to do? I feel kind of lost as to what I should do at the moment.

I already voted Sophie earlier. I don't envy your position as I am still mistrusting her but seeing the points on bf as well. I have been defending him based off thinking he was a certain role but I do not think that role is alive anymore.This game is nuts. I'm starting to get paranoid about everything

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:01 pm**

Lena Hyena wrote:I also lean towards trusting sophie because...

Rabbit is silenced. I think he WAS targetted by herman last night. I think herman insanifies/silences/curses etc good people... and kills baddies.

We haven't seen anyone cursed since nijuu died. I have the cursing as a baddie ability

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:02 pm**

This is paranoia central lol.

BF, you trust MP? I was just gonna say his vote of bea leaves me mistrusting him lol...

Hopefully it is bea.

@splints - is rabbit not cursed? Has he spoken today?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:03 pm**

And we KNOW... I think... that someone is still around blocking people, so the night before can be seen as an anomaly.

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