The Syndicate

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:21 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:31 pm @novaselinenever @Quin

Have any of my recent posts swayed you at all from reading me as scum?

No, because none of your recent posts address the reason I suspect you. Half the case you pushed on me is made up (my "I knew it" posts), and the other half is exaggerated (Disagreeing with the sig case versus strongly against the sig case). We've talked about the latter a few times, but I've been waiting for you to address the former.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:27 pm i am like 99.7 percent sure lapluie doesn't have information on dunya

this perspective does not come from one who has information himself thank you

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:45 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:31 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:29 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:25 pm from the options, I had Marmot and Simon both down as scum reads. I don't feel good about Marmot's self-vote at all though. Like, it makes me question his scumminess.

Give me a town motivation for a self-vote

Based on personal experience, people who self-vote are far behind townies who don't want to impact the thread.

I've seen one case of a scum DrWilgy self vote, on this site, and RadicalFuzz in the vocaroo, and that's it. But Radical did it out of frustration, no one frustrated Marmot to self-vote. So what's the scum motivation for it?

Want some cheese with that wine? A townie who would try to get himself lynched, depriving my faction of a chance to catch a baddie, does not deserve my sympathy. A baddie pretending to do that should not either. I've played games with many a mod who would ban a player for self voting. It's against the spirit of the game 99% of the time. I'm absolutely not going to encourage the idea that it's something townies do or should do.

What would you do about Simon if Eloh was dead or not in the game?

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:05 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:00 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:44 pm"Disgusting."

dunya i don't make decisions recklessly. If there's any data that might influence the direction of a choice I have to make then I'm not gonna just ignore it just cus it contradicts something I already think.

that's not what I found disgusting, but your casing of me based on someone's theory of someone's theory. Your post was trying to frame me negatively, even though you are basing it on loose speculation and not straight from the horse's mouth, and then to top all that off you sign it off with something like "but idk maybe I'm wrong". I don't like that. I feel it was very opportunistic of you.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:35 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:45 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:31 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:29 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:25 pm from the options, I had Marmot and Simon both down as scum reads. I don't feel good about Marmot's self-vote at all though. Like, it makes me question his scumminess.

Give me a town motivation for a self-vote

Based on personal experience, people who self-vote are far behind townies who don't want to impact the thread.

I've seen one case of a scum DrWilgy self vote, on this site, and RadicalFuzz in the vocaroo, and that's it. But Radical did it out of frustration, no one frustrated Marmot to self-vote. So what's the scum motivation for it?

Want some cheese with that wine? A townie who would try to get himself lynched, depriving my faction of a chance to catch a baddie, does not deserve my sympathy. A baddie pretending to do that should not either. I've played games with many a mod who would ban a player for self voting. It's against the spirit of the game 99% of the time. I'm absolutely not going to encourage the idea that it's something townies do or should do.

What would you do about Simon if Eloh was dead or not in the game?

This is not (from what i can remember) Marmot's first time self-voting and will likely not be his last. Does this have any impact on your read?

lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:17 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:08 pm I mean lapluie, please. I didn't want you to take your vote off me. I wanted you to discuss things and clarify false assumptions people were making. You put me in a bad light, and if you are town like you're claiming, you're going to hurt yourself in the end if you don't clarify you're position and how you reached your conclusions about me. Put your vote back on me. Or better yet, if you return to the game, I'll selfvote. How's that? Do we have a deal?

It's okay, youre right, my decision & logic was irrational & I came on too hard, sorry.
I'm not gonna vote you because of my silly conclusion that youre bad because of the sig lynch, I've thought about it, it just makes us both look bad. Simon is already in the lead for lynch, I think speedchuck is right to think that simon would be a good lynch tonight, his behaviours have been erratic & noncommittal. Sorry I lashed out like that, I understand where you're coming from. So thank you

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:42 pm A four way tie seems pretty fun.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:27 pm i am like 99.7 percent sure lapluie doesn't have information on dunya

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:42 pm A four way tie seems pretty fun.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:46 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:27 pm i am like 99.7 percent sure lapluie doesn't have information on dunya

Yes, after Lapluie’s most recent posts, I think it’s pretty clear that is the case - she had an opportunity there if she had concrete info to reveal it. As a result, the case against Dunya (in my eyes at least) has collapsed.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:45 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:42 pm A four way tie seems pretty fun.

I agree. Hell, why not a five way tie? I could even go for six.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:45 pm Wilgy votes Speedchuck without a word and leaves. Regardless of Speed's alignment, this is further reason to believe Wilgy is bad. This is a WIFOM only move that only serves to help the baddies.

@dunya

What happened to you voting for Simon if Eloh doesn't show up. Looks like you're voting for Marmot instead. Talk to me about that.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:46 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:27 pm i am like 99.7 percent sure lapluie doesn't have information on dunya

Yes, after Lapluie’s most recent posts, I think it’s pretty clear that is the case - she had an opportunity there if she had concrete info to reveal it. As a result, the case against Dunya (in my eyes at least) has collapsed.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:50 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:45 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:42 pm A four way tie seems pretty fun.

I agree. Hell, why not a five way tie? I could even go for six.

If everyone who's voted so far switched we could have a 12 way tie.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:45 pm Wilgy votes Speedchuck without a word and leaves. Regardless of Speed's alignment, this is further reason to believe Wilgy is bad. This is a WIFOM only move that only serves to help the baddies.

@dunya

What happened to you voting for Simon if Eloh doesn't show up. Looks like you're voting for Marmot instead. Talk to me about that.

I agree, I think if Wilgy isn't mafia he's a loner, he doesn't seem to be playing the same as civ wilgy does.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:53 pm rabbit8

Tell me about your Speedchuck suspicion.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:02 pmVoting Jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:56 pm The worst thing Dunya has done is not push to lynch Sig.

It's saying "I think Marmot is doing a thing that townies do and also I am going to vote for Simon, who is bad......*votes Marmot*"

I wouldn't be heartbroken if Dunya was lynched today. I could see her as w/w with Simon or Wilgy. Since Wilgy and Simon are both bad, this makes w/w/w.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:53 pm rabbit8

Tell me about your Speedchuck suspicion.

Meh, I think of the players with votes he the one on my list. I have him there mainly because I have others there who I think he may be connected to. It's weaksauce.

I feel limited, I don't want to read all the games you guys are bringing up as we progress. I'm trying to feel out some players as well.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:56 pm The worst thing Dunya has done is not push to lynch Sig.

It's saying "I think Marmot is doing a thing that townies do and also I am going to vote for Simon, who is bad......*votes Marmot*"

I wouldn't be heartbroken if Dunya was lynched today. I could see her as w/w with Simon or Wilgy. Since Wilgy and Simon are both bad, this makes w/w/w.

Hahahah.

K. Lynch me.

You didn't play vocaroo (my last game). I was very persistent that Simon was scum. Read all his scum/town games and tried to translate that into vocaroo meta. Elohcin was a strong reason (the only) reason Simon wasn't mislynched. You asked me a hypothetical if she wasn't in the game... But she is in the game and there's 6 other anti town players. I am not stubborn. I can wait for Eloh tomorrow morning to give me input. I don't feel like mislynchinh twice in a row kthx.

I already explained my Marmot vote. He was one of my scum spects. His self vote made me pause, I was told he does this a lot. It was no longer an obstacle.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:02 pmVoting Jack.

Why?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:06 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:53 pm rabbit8

Tell me about your Speedchuck suspicion.

Meh, I think of the players with votes he the one on my list. I have him there mainly because I have others there who I think he may be connected to. It's weaksauce.

I feel limited, I don't want to read all the games you guys are bringing up as we progress. I'm trying to feel out some players as well.

Who do you think he might be connected to?

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:56 pm The worst thing Dunya has done is not push to lynch Sig.

It's saying "I think Marmot is doing a thing that townies do and also I am going to vote for Simon, who is bad......*votes Marmot*"

I wouldn't be heartbroken if Dunya was lynched today. I could see her as w/w with Simon or Wilgy. Since Wilgy and Simon are both bad, this makes w/w/w.

Hahahah.

K. Lynch me.

You didn't play vocaroo (my last game). I was very persistent that Simon was scum. Read all his scum/town games and tried to translate that into vocaroo meta. Elohcin was a strong reason (the only) reason Simon wasn't mislynched. You asked me a hypothetical if she wasn't in the game... But she is in the game and there's 6 other anti town players. I am not stubborn. I can wait for Eloh tomorrow morning to give me input. I don't feel like mislynchinh twice in a row kthx.

I already explained my Marmot vote. He was one of my scum spects. His self vote made me pause, I was told he does this a lot. It was no longer an obstacle.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:08 pm The way I see it, I’m out of this game in a hour’s time when those bastards come for me again. I would at least like to take one of them out before I leave the game. I keep getting a bad vibe from JoH and it’s been getting worse as the game goes on. For now, that’s where I’ll place my vote. Am open to being convinced otherwise if someone would care to put a case.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:10 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:08 pm The way I see it, I’m out of this game in a hour’s time when those bastards come for me again. I would at least like to take one of them out before I leave the game. I keep getting a bad vibe from JoH and it’s been getting worse as the game goes on. For now, that’s where I’ll place my vote. Am open to being convinced otherwise if someone would care to put a case.

Who are those bastards?

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:08 pm The way I see it, I’m out of this game in a hour’s time when those bastards come for me again. I would at least like to take one of them out before I leave the game. I keep getting a bad vibe from JoH and it’s been getting worse as the game goes on. For now, that’s where I’ll place my vote. Am open to being convinced otherwise if someone would care to put a case.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:56 pm The worst thing Dunya has done is not push to lynch Sig.

It's saying "I think Marmot is doing a thing that townies do and also I am going to vote for Simon, who is bad......*votes Marmot*"

I wouldn't be heartbroken if Dunya was lynched today. I could see her as w/w with Simon or Wilgy. Since Wilgy and Simon are both bad, this makes w/w/w.

Hahahah.

K. Lynch me.

You didn't play vocaroo (my last game). I was very persistent that Simon was scum. Read all his scum/town games and tried to translate that into vocaroo meta. Elohcin was a strong reason (the only) reason Simon wasn't mislynched. You asked me a hypothetical if she wasn't in the game... But she is in the game and there's 6 other anti town players. I am not stubborn. I can wait for Eloh tomorrow morning to give me input. I don't feel like mislynchinh twice in a row kthx.

I already explained my Marmot vote. He was one of my scum spects. His self vote made me pause, I was told he does this a lot. It was no longer an obstacle.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:00 pm Voting Simon. If Eloh shows up before deadline, great. If not, I'll vote as though Eloh wasn't playing.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:06 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:56 pm The worst thing Dunya has done is not push to lynch Sig.

It's saying "I think Marmot is doing a thing that townies do and also I am going to vote for Simon, who is bad......*votes Marmot*"

I wouldn't be heartbroken if Dunya was lynched today. I could see her as w/w with Simon or Wilgy. Since Wilgy and Simon are both bad, this makes w/w/w.

Hahahah.

K. Lynch me.

You didn't play vocaroo (my last game). I was very persistent that Simon was scum. Read all his scum/town games and tried to translate that into vocaroo meta. Elohcin was a strong reason (the only) reason Simon wasn't mislynched. You asked me a hypothetical if she wasn't in the game... But she is in the game and there's 6 other anti town players. I am not stubborn. I can wait for Eloh tomorrow morning to give me input. I don't feel like mislynchinh twice in a row kthx.

I already explained my Marmot vote. He was one of my scum spects. His self vote made me pause, I was told he does this a lot. It was no longer an obstacle.

are you ISOing me?

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:13 pm rabbit8 u should make a case. then IF we mislynch her you can taste the poop I tasted

P.s. "k lynch me" was sarcasm to his catching 3 scum hence the rest of my post.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:17 pm How da fua is there a case on Simon?

What about Dave? Or Eloh or......

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:15 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:06 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:56 pm The worst thing Dunya has done is not push to lynch Sig.

It's saying "I think Marmot is doing a thing that townies do and also I am going to vote for Simon, who is bad......*votes Marmot*"

I wouldn't be heartbroken if Dunya was lynched today. I could see her as w/w with Simon or Wilgy. Since Wilgy and Simon are both bad, this makes w/w/w.

Hahahah.

K. Lynch me.

You didn't play vocaroo (my last game). I was very persistent that Simon was scum. Read all his scum/town games and tried to translate that into vocaroo meta. Elohcin was a strong reason (the only) reason Simon wasn't mislynched. You asked me a hypothetical if she wasn't in the game... But she is in the game and there's 6 other anti town players. I am not stubborn. I can wait for Eloh tomorrow morning to give me input. I don't feel like mislynchinh twice in a row kthx.

I already explained my Marmot vote. He was one of my scum spects. His self vote made me pause, I was told he does this a lot. It was no longer an obstacle.

are you ISOing me?

Honestly no. It's 1.15 am and I'm in bed on my phone. I don't even suspect you anymore. I don't need to convince you I'm town right now this second. But I'll try to take a look if people atop posting and distracting me.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:17 pm How da fua is there a case on Simon?

What about Dave? Or Eloh or......

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:18 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:15 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:06 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:56 pm The worst thing Dunya has done is not push to lynch Sig.

It's saying "I think Marmot is doing a thing that townies do and also I am going to vote for Simon, who is bad......*votes Marmot*"

I wouldn't be heartbroken if Dunya was lynched today. I could see her as w/w with Simon or Wilgy. Since Wilgy and Simon are both bad, this makes w/w/w.

Hahahah.

K. Lynch me.

You didn't play vocaroo (my last game). I was very persistent that Simon was scum. Read all his scum/town games and tried to translate that into vocaroo meta. Elohcin was a strong reason (the only) reason Simon wasn't mislynched. You asked me a hypothetical if she wasn't in the game... But she is in the game and there's 6 other anti town players. I am not stubborn. I can wait for Eloh tomorrow morning to give me input. I don't feel like mislynchinh twice in a row kthx.

I already explained my Marmot vote. He was one of my scum spects. His self vote made me pause, I was told he does this a lot. It was no longer an obstacle.

are you ISOing me?

Honestly no. It's 1.15 am and I'm in bed on my phone. I don't even suspect you anymore. I don't need to convince you I'm town right now this second. But I'll try to take a look if people atop posting and distracting me.

Actually, I would think you do. Because right now it looks like you're blowing me off until you have a chance to kill me and hope this line of questioning goes away.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:22 pm Jackofhearts2005, you've been treating Wilgy and Simon as foregone-conclusion mafia members. What inspires such confidence?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:22 pm Jackofhearts2005, you've been treating Wilgy and Simon as foregone-conclusion mafia members. What inspires such confidence?

ISO me or follow me and find out.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:00 pm Regarding Speedchuck, his finalvotes have been yuck until today. Nobody's forgetting that or Mac's insistence that he is bad. We should all remember these things as well as Speed's skill in faking being a townie.....and vote elsewhere for now.