The Syndicate

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:47 pm Ok I ISO'd them both.

I am now convinced they are both bad.

DF's posts re: Sokoth look like shit and Marmot is a shadow of his civ self.

Something something [VOTE: DFaraday] aubergine

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:49 pm Hm. I don't like this.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:47 pm Ok I ISO'd them both.

I am now convinced they are both bad.

DF's posts re: Sokoth look like shit and Marmot is a shadow of his civ self.

Last time I piggybacked on a case by Epi it gave us Wilgy though, so I'm gonna go with [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

See you next phase.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:53 pm If my post looked like this:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:47 pm Ok I ISO'd them both.

I am now convinced they are both bad.

DF's posts re: Sokoth look like shit and Marmot is a shadow of his civ self.

Something something [VOTE: DFaraday] aubergine

Would you have replied with:

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:49 pm Hm. I don't like this.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

?

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:51 pm Nobody is seriously talking about Marmot. He's basically not playing. It's more made up bullshit that will give the scum an easy lynch.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:16 pm I trust the people on the Wilgy wagon more than the people on my wagon. Should I switch, or would that ruin more things?

Go with your gut. I think wilgy is more likely to be bad, but with each of the other two options we may get decent reads out of the flips. In some ways there are no bad options here.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:55 pm Contrary to popular belief, civ Marmot is a pretty decent player and can be characterized by his honest attempt at figuring things out and questioning people.

The fact he is not doing this here is what is making me read him as bad.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:47 pm Last time I piggybacked on a case by Epi it gave us Wilgy though, so I'm gonna go with [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:10 pm Anyway spoilers:

I don't think Nova is going to score high on the Teammate-o-meter.

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:51 pm Nobody is seriously talking about Marmot. He's basically not playing. It's more made up bullshit that will give the scum an easy lynch.

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:49 pm Hm. I don't like this.

[VOTE: DFaraday] aubergine

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:51 pm Nobody is seriously talking about Marmot. He's basically not playing. It's more made up bullshit that will give the scum an easy lynch.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:16 pm I trust the people on the Wilgy wagon more than the people on my wagon. Should I switch, or would that ruin more things?

Go with your gut. I think wilgy is more likely to be bad, but with each of the other two options we may get decent reads out of the flips. In some ways there are no bad options here.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:05 pm I think at this particular moment I am more convinced that Enrique is bad than that DDL is. It will be interesting to see what happens next phase though.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:07 pm Holy fuck I just noticed something. DH thank you for quoting this post:

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:16 pm I trust the people on the Wilgy wagon more than the people on my wagon. Should I switch, or would that ruin more things?

Go with your gut. I think wilgy is more likely to be bad, but with each of the other two options we may get decent reads out of the flips. In some ways there are no bad options here.

IIRC Golden said the exact same thing when his teammate LC was up for lynch in courage.


Bam.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:07 pm Holy fuck I just noticed something. DH thank you for quoting this post:

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:16 pm I trust the people on the Wilgy wagon more than the people on my wagon. Should I switch, or would that ruin more things?

Go with your gut. I think wilgy is more likely to be bad, but with each of the other two options we may get decent reads out of the flips. In some ways there are no bad options here.

IIRC Golden said the exact same thing when his teammate LC was up for lynch in courage.


Bam.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:06 am

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:28 pm Marmot - No real substance to posts until somewhat recently. The vote for Mac without reason kind of through me. I would be interested to

I think Sokoth is talking about the scum chat in this post, because I'm struggling to find these "substance" posts from Marmot he's referring to. The "somewhat recently" seals it for me.

Case closed. Marmot is bad

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:11 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:06 am

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:28 pm Marmot - No real substance to posts until somewhat recently. The vote for Mac without reason kind of through me. I would be interested to

I think Sokoth is talking about the scum chat in this post, because I'm struggling to find these "substance" posts from Marmot he's referring to. The "somewhat recently" seals it for me.

Case closed. Marmot is bad

This is it. This is the case. This isn't even better than Wilgy.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:11 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:07 pm Holy fuck I just noticed something. DH thank you for quoting this post:

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:16 pm I trust the people on the Wilgy wagon more than the people on my wagon. Should I switch, or would that ruin more things?

Go with your gut. I think wilgy is more likely to be bad, but with each of the other two options we may get decent reads out of the flips. In some ways there are no bad options here.

IIRC Golden said the exact same thing when his teammate LC was up for lynch in courage.


Bam.

Fuck never mind I just looked and I must be misremembering something. oh well

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:07 pm Holy fuck I just noticed something. DH thank you for quoting this post:

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:16 pm I trust the people on the Wilgy wagon more than the people on my wagon. Should I switch, or would that ruin more things?

Go with your gut. I think wilgy is more likely to be bad, but with each of the other two options we may get decent reads out of the flips. In some ways there are no bad options here.

IIRC Golden said the exact same thing when his teammate LC was up for lynch in courage.


Bam.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:15 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:07 pm Holy fuck I just noticed something. DH thank you for quoting this post:

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:16 pm I trust the people on the Wilgy wagon more than the people on my wagon. Should I switch, or would that ruin more things?

Go with your gut. I think wilgy is more likely to be bad, but with each of the other two options we may get decent reads out of the flips. In some ways there are no bad options here.

IIRC Golden said the exact same thing when his teammate LC was up for lynch in courage.


Bam.

Pretty sure I didn’t.

In the LC lynch it’s possible I said there are no GOOD options. Or that LC was the best of two bad options. I never saw your lynch as a good option.

Besides that, it’s bad logic to compare a line to when I’m bad and treat it as a slam dunk. When I do say stuff like that when bad, it’s because it’s how I’d feel if town. In that game you were a bad vote option for me because I knew town golden would read you town. I was deliberately recreating the way I’d feel as town there.

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:25 pm We're gonna keep focusing on individual sentences that don't lead anywhere but each day we'll have a different way to read them. "Well, his treating Wilgy and Marmot in specific separate ways didn't work out, but surely this third instance will." It's not that there's nothing to his post (he defends DDL in the same post and that's concrete and out there), but we probably shouldn't just focus on awkward phrasing and use it as evidence of, I mean, nothing in particular? It is different from Wilgy only in that it literally says something different and is shorter / less involved.

I prefer DH's method of focusing on people's dialogue around Sokoth. That Golden post was golden.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:25 pm What is Linki? Feel like I'm missing on an inside thing

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:28 pm So its time for me to weigh in I guess. I've been going over everyones that's on the Vote's posts. Here is my two cents:

Glorf - While I had initial suspicions of him initially, which was primarily founded on this focus of his meta. I do believe that he very well is a good player and not a baddie. He's been defensive of players, and his Captain and has only really lashed out when one of those was put in the hot seat. So I've swung this vote from red to green.

DDL - Though most people seem to think DDL is a baddie, I'm not entirely convinced. I've seen it swing either way so I am on the ropes with DDL but the way that DDL has reacted even despite his being ejected from his crew. This does not scream bad to me. So I'm again swinging my thoughts from Badish to good.

DrWilgy - Lurking in the shadows. Very low activity from what I've seen but most of what they have posted has not really carried much substance. I suppose the real life reason for inactivity should be considered. I'm on the ropes here. Earlier on they were pretty aggresive with some comments. One thing that stood out to me and still rings is "My Votes have gone to preventing a cowered from being Captain, I'll hold my 4th". This still resonates with me and has pushed my vote over to the bad side. I'm still curious why Wilgy would label Golden a Cowered as I Believe that is where that comment was directed. So... Yeah. And Silence for a long period from the 9th up until...?

DFaraday - Not very active. Mostly responsive to post but nothing that really stands out to me.

Kylemii - Wizard Stuff? Is this some kind of misdirect and avoidance of the Topics at hand? Has not really been helpful but has not hurt. Someone I'm watching to see where this goes as we move on. Leaning Bad.

Luna - Reading through your posts I didn't honestly see anything that stood out as bad up until you ejected DDL from your crew. I'm still not sure I understand why. I thought your handling of your crew pointed to good, but your comments to take in "Jaded" crew. Then when Challenged on it, you 180'ed and said it was a joke. Kind of Strange to me. Those two points combined have me thinking you hail from the dark side of things.

Lapluie... ? Not really here? LOL

Marmot - No real substance to posts until somewhat recently. The vote for Mac without reason kind of through me. I would be interested to know why you threw Mac Under the bus.

SpeedChuck - This suggestion to Lynch ships that have more crew while a good tactic for a win, I'm not sure if I can tell if it was a "Bad' or "Good" Suggestion. It could be both. Mostly seems to play devils advocate between posts.

This is all I've got so far from reading through things and following. Some of the most recent posts are not really analyized here. But yeah. Observations.

So I'm leaning on DrWilgy, and Luna to be honest. I would like other opinions on why I shouldn't vote for one of them or which one I should over the other?

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:32 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:28 pm So its time for me to weigh in I guess. I've been going over everyones that's on the Vote's posts. Here is my two cents:

Glorf - While I had initial suspicions of him initially, which was primarily founded on this focus of his meta. I do believe that he very well is a good player and not a baddie. He's been defensive of players, and his Captain and has only really lashed out when one of those was put in the hot seat. So I've swung this vote from red to green.

DDL - Though most people seem to think DDL is a baddie, I'm not entirely convinced. I've seen it swing either way so I am on the ropes with DDL but the way that DDL has reacted even despite his being ejected from his crew. This does not scream bad to me. So I'm again swinging my thoughts from Badish to good.

DrWilgy - Lurking in the shadows. Very low activity from what I've seen but most of what they have posted has not really carried much substance. I suppose the real life reason for inactivity should be considered. I'm on the ropes here. Earlier on they were pretty aggresive with some comments. One thing that stood out to me and still rings is "My Votes have gone to preventing a cowered from being Captain, I'll hold my 4th". This still resonates with me and has pushed my vote over to the bad side. I'm still curious why Wilgy would label Golden a Cowered as I Believe that is where that comment was directed. So... Yeah. And Silence for a long period from the 9th up until...?

DFaraday - Not very active. Mostly responsive to post but nothing that really stands out to me.

Kylemii - Wizard Stuff? Is this some kind of misdirect and avoidance of the Topics at hand? Has not really been helpful but has not hurt. Someone I'm watching to see where this goes as we move on. Leaning Bad.

Luna - Reading through your posts I didn't honestly see anything that stood out as bad up until you ejected DDL from your crew. I'm still not sure I understand why. I thought your handling of your crew pointed to good, but your comments to take in "Jaded" crew. Then when Challenged on it, you 180'ed and said it was a joke. Kind of Strange to me. Those two points combined have me thinking you hail from the dark side of things.

Lapluie... ? Not really here? LOL

Marmot - No real substance to posts until somewhat recently. The vote for Mac without reason kind of through me. I would be interested to know why you threw Mac Under the bus.

SpeedChuck - This suggestion to Lynch ships that have more crew while a good tactic for a win, I'm not sure if I can tell if it was a "Bad' or "Good" Suggestion. It could be both. Mostly seems to play devils advocate between posts.

This is all I've got so far from reading through things and following. Some of the most recent posts are not really analyized here. But yeah. Observations.

So I'm leaning on DrWilgy, and Luna to be honest. I would like other opinions on why I shouldn't vote for one of them or which one I should over the other?

This is the Sokoth post that the whole game is revolving around. The Wilgy portion was focused on because Epi pulled it out of his ass, Marmot because Golden put him on the poll. When they're both dead and town tomorrow, somebody's gonna grab the speedchuck portion which doesn't say anything at all and be like "oh hey look the content of this is different from the other two, surely that means he's bad?" (conveniently ignoring the defense of DDL, again).

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:25 pm We're gonna keep focusing on individual sentences that don't lead anywhere but each day we'll have a different way to read them. "Well, his treating Wilgy and Marmot in specific separate ways didn't work out, but surely this third instance will." It's not that there's nothing to his post (he defends DDL in the same post and that's concrete and out there), but we probably shouldn't just focus on awkward phrasing and use it as evidence of, I mean, nothing in particular? It is different from Wilgy only in that it literally says something different and is shorter / less involved.

I prefer DH's method of focusing on people's dialogue around Sokoth. That Golden post was golden.

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:32 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:28 pm So its time for me to weigh in I guess. I've been going over everyones that's on the Vote's posts. Here is my two cents:

Glorf - While I had initial suspicions of him initially, which was primarily founded on this focus of his meta. I do believe that he very well is a good player and not a baddie. He's been defensive of players, and his Captain and has only really lashed out when one of those was put in the hot seat. So I've swung this vote from red to green.

DDL - Though most people seem to think DDL is a baddie, I'm not entirely convinced. I've seen it swing either way so I am on the ropes with DDL but the way that DDL has reacted even despite his being ejected from his crew. This does not scream bad to me. So I'm again swinging my thoughts from Badish to good.

DrWilgy - Lurking in the shadows. Very low activity from what I've seen but most of what they have posted has not really carried much substance. I suppose the real life reason for inactivity should be considered. I'm on the ropes here. Earlier on they were pretty aggresive with some comments. One thing that stood out to me and still rings is "My Votes have gone to preventing a cowered from being Captain, I'll hold my 4th". This still resonates with me and has pushed my vote over to the bad side. I'm still curious why Wilgy would label Golden a Cowered as I Believe that is where that comment was directed. So... Yeah. And Silence for a long period from the 9th up until...?

DFaraday - Not very active. Mostly responsive to post but nothing that really stands out to me.

Kylemii - Wizard Stuff? Is this some kind of misdirect and avoidance of the Topics at hand? Has not really been helpful but has not hurt. Someone I'm watching to see where this goes as we move on. Leaning Bad.

Luna - Reading through your posts I didn't honestly see anything that stood out as bad up until you ejected DDL from your crew. I'm still not sure I understand why. I thought your handling of your crew pointed to good, but your comments to take in "Jaded" crew. Then when Challenged on it, you 180'ed and said it was a joke. Kind of Strange to me. Those two points combined have me thinking you hail from the dark side of things.

Lapluie... ? Not really here? LOL

Marmot - No real substance to posts until somewhat recently. The vote for Mac without reason kind of through me. I would be interested to know why you threw Mac Under the bus.

SpeedChuck - This suggestion to Lynch ships that have more crew while a good tactic for a win, I'm not sure if I can tell if it was a "Bad' or "Good" Suggestion. It could be both. Mostly seems to play devils advocate between posts.

This is all I've got so far from reading through things and following. Some of the most recent posts are not really analyized here. But yeah. Observations.

So I'm leaning on DrWilgy, and Luna to be honest. I would like other opinions on why I shouldn't vote for one of them or which one I should over the other?

This is the Sokoth post that the whole game is revolving around. The Wilgy portion was focused on because Epi pulled it out of his ass, Marmot because Golden put him on the poll. When they're both dead and town tomorrow, somebody's gonna grab the speedchuck portion which doesn't say anything at all and be like "oh hey look the content of this is different from the other two, surely that means he's bad?" (conveniently ignoring the defense of DDL, again).

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:41 pm This is not the first time nutella has said something about me and Enrique has just sheeped it.

How much of Enrique’s content is sheeping?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:52 pm Actually scratch what I said before, I want to have my 1v1 showdown against Enrique.

Bring it on.

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:53 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:41 pm This is not the first time nutella has said something about me and Enrique has just sheeped it.

How much of Enrique’s content is sheeping?

I pulled the quote from DH first, said it was bad, then nutella agreed for a moment and took it back and then I made a post to tell her that it actually is bad. Cool narrative, though.

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:49 pm There's no lack of posts where I'm theorizing why Golden was shielding him and pressuring him to get added so yeah, I'm aware, nova. That's besides the point. The point is the Marmot section doesn't say anything on its own while others do. The three people he had as bad turned out to be town, the person he's defending is someone a bunch of us think was his teammate, and then there's a bunch of people he's completely neutral on. It's arbitrary to focus on Marmot, and if he does get lynched today I hope we'll be done with those fake deep reads tomorrow.

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:59 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:53 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:41 pm This is not the first time nutella has said something about me and Enrique has just sheeped it.

How much of Enrique’s content is sheeping?

I pulled the quote from DH first, said it was bad, then nutella agreed for a moment and took it back and then I made a post to tell her that it actually is bad. Cool narrative, though.

Fair enough, sheeping DH then. It makes no odds to my “narrative”.

DH didn’t treat it like a silver bullet. Nutella briefly did for a justified reason - she thought it was identical to other baddie behaviour she’d seen from me. You’re acting like it’s a silver bullet just... because?