The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:24 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:22 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:57 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:40 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:43 am - Confirming my role, which historically is a civ one.
Citation needed.
Dont remember seeing a bad version of it.
Do you remember seeing a good version?
I remember seeing versions of it, and if my memory doesn't betray me they were good.

Sure, sure.

That's not a citation though.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:25 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:24 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:22 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:57 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:40 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:43 am - Confirming my role, which historically is a civ one.
Citation needed.
Dont remember seeing a bad version of it.
Do you remember seeing a good version?
I remember seeing versions of it, and if my memory doesn't betray me they were good.
Sure, sure.

That's not a citation though.

Sorry, teacher. Please do not let me fail this module.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:26 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:57 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:40 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:43 am - Confirming my role, which historically is a civ one.
Citation needed.
Dont remember seeing a bad version of it.
Do you remember seeing a good version?

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:26 pm**

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] Did you have a choice in who would be on the poll, or was the choice literally "put 5 lowest posters on or do not use this role"

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:26 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:21 pm I disagree. Generally abilities hitting people at random results in revealed baddies and vigged baddies, which means much more for the baddies than the civs. I've lost count of how many games I hosted where I gave the mafia the ability to randomize someone's actions and it ended up backfiring on them. While in terms of thread, a game where town is constantly attacking different people and not following predictable patterns means more things for mafia to react to. Mafia likes a game that follows a smooth lynch order which they can control.

Is there anything random about what you've done?

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:31 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:53 pm
Monica Geller
You are perfect for party planning, as your attention to details and obsession with getting the job done gives you the skills needed to do an impressive job. This time, you’ll be planning a party: A lynch party! One Night, you will submit a list of invitees to the Host. These will be the only names on the poll the next Day. Your list must have at least four names.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:33 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:26 pm Dragon D. Luffy Did you have a choice in who would be on the poll, or was the choice literally "put 5 lowest posters on or do not use this role"

I did have a choice.

I decided to make an objective, detatched one, that isn't clouded by my own (terrible) scumhunting skills.

I want to lynch low posters. Not sure which ones. Have wanted since Night 1, actually, but LC's little game poured water into my beer.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:26 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:21 pm I disagree. Generally abilities hitting people at random results in revealed baddies and vigged baddies, which means much more for the baddies than the civs. I've lost count of how many games I hosted where I gave the mafia the ability to randomize someone's actions and it ended up backfiring on them. While in terms of thread, a game where town is constantly attacking different people and not following predictable patterns means more things for mafia to react to. Mafia likes a game that follows a smooth lynch order which they can control.
Is there anything random about what you've done?

I bet the mafia thought it was random.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:34 pm**

I got a role and thought "what is the most optimal use I can make out of it"

This was the answer.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:36 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:33 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:26 pm Dragon D. Luffy Did you have a choice in who would be on the poll, or was the choice literally "put 5 lowest posters on or do not use this role"
I did have a choice.

I decided to make an objective, detatched one, that isn't clouded by my own (terrible) scumhunting skills.

I want to lynch low posters. Not sure which ones. Have wanted since Night 1, actually, but LC's little game poured water into my beer.

On the one hand, probably not a bad decision.

On the other hand, not one we can hold you accountable for. By design? Idunno. We can't judge DDL on his picks because he picked an objective standard.

Nova is right that this role was town last time, though.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:39 pm**

This notion that roles are predominantly civilian or predominantly mafia means little to me in this game. I'm a civilian who makes it harder for people to post. I don't even think Long Con has to be a civilian based purely on his role claim.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:39 pm**

DDL, but Eloh?

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:40 pm**

I don't think there's anything inherently suspicious about DDL using the role he was given in this way. There are plenty of reasons to suspect him that aren't role-related, but this doesn't move the ticker down for him in my opinion. What else was he supposed to do with it?

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:45 pm**

Luna = Leetic >= Niju >> Neverwhere

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:45 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:39 pm DDL, but Eloh?

Yes, please.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:47 pm**

If the Mafia are just flat missing kills (unknown, but plausible), that points more to leetic than anyone else. It can point to Neverwhere and niju and probably does not point to Luna.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:47 pm**

I shouldn't have capitalized "mafia". I'm screwing up my own pristine notation.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:48 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:47 pm If the Mafia are just flat missing kills (unknown, but plausible), that points more to leetic than anyone else. It can point to Neverwhere and niju and probably does not point to Luna.

Well, really it points to reywaS the most.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:49 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:47 pm If the Mafia are just flat missing kills (unknown, but plausible), that points more to leetic than anyone else. It can point to Neverwhere and niju and probably does not point to Luna.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:52 pm I know why there wasn't a kill on Night 2. I dont know why there wasn't a kill last night.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:49 pm**

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:39 pm DDL, but Eloh?
Yes, please.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:51 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:47 pm If the Mafia are just flat missing kills (unknown, but plausible), that points more to leetic than anyone else. It can point to Neverwhere and niju and probably does not point to Luna.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:52 pm I know why there wasn't a kill on Night 2. I dont know why there wasn't a kill last night.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:59 pm**

I'll just say why I poked nova with the insanity stick:

His rate of contribution had been tailing off for a while, and that was generating increased suspicion alongside interactive bits. His earliest civilian credit had faded. Indeed, he was reverting into the form of Guy Who Posts Gifs.

So I decided he'd make a nice target for my weird ability. In past games, there have been instances where civilians have been hit with some kind of posting restriction, and during that period they operated in a manner that made their authenticity more clear. Some people will use any method they can come up with to communicate effectively instead of using the excuse to just piss off from the game for a day. So I wanted to see how nova would respond to that challenge. How has he performed?

I will issue a positive grade, though with a minor groan. He has found ways to communicate within the bounds of his restriction, and indeed he has engaged in almost "cheating" activities (no gripe, I've done the same in his position) that don't really apply to the restriction but may not violate it either -- emojis, raw quotes, etc. He's been generally active as much as anyone during the phase and seems to be trying to make the best of it.

Minor groan: the emojis were shite and offer less tangible communication than the other methods he's used. So those sucked. He hasn't wholly relied upon them though so whatever.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:04 pm**

I haven't been hit with that power, in answer to that question earlier. What is Nova quoting, some Steely Dan song?

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:07 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:04 pm I haven't been hit with that power, in answer to that question earlier. What is Nova quoting, some Steely Dan song?

I'm not entirely certain, and I won't reveal that anyway if I figure it out.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:12 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:07 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:04 pm I haven't been hit with that power, in answer to that question earlier. What is Nova quoting, some Steely Dan song?
I'm not entirely certain, and I won't reveal that anyway if I figure it out.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:13 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:40 pm I don't think there's anything inherently suspicious about DDL using the role he was given in this way.

timing.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:14 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:59 pm I'll just say why I poked nova with the insanity stick:

His rate of contribution had been tailing off for a while, and that was generating increased suspicion alongside interactive bits. His earliest civilian credit had faded. Indeed, he was reverting into the form of Guy Who Posts Gifs.

So I decided he'd make a nice target for my weird ability. In past games, there have been instances where civilians have been hit with some kind of posting restriction, and during that period they operated in a manner that made their authenticity more clear. Some people will use any method they can come up with to communicate effectively instead of using the excuse to just piss off from the game for a day. So I wanted to see how nova would respond to that challenge. How has he performed?

I will issue a positive grade, though with a minor groan. He has found ways to communicate within the bounds of his restriction, and indeed he has engaged in almost "cheating" activities (no gripe, I've done the same in his position) that don't really apply to the restriction but may not violate it either -- emojis, raw quotes, etc. He's been generally active as much as anyone during the phase and seems to be trying to make the best of it.

Minor groan: the emojis were shite and offer less tangible communication than the other methods he's used. So those sucked. He hasn't wholly relied upon them though so whatever.

meh.

really flat meh that you got all that from nova.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:15 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:59 pm I'll just say why I poked nova with the insanity stick:

His rate of contribution had been tailing off for a while, and that was generating increased suspicion alongside interactive bits. His earliest civilian credit had faded. Indeed, he was reverting into the form of Guy Who Posts Gifs.

So I decided he'd make a nice target for my weird ability. In past games, there have been instances where civilians have been hit with some kind of posting restriction, and during that period they operated in a manner that made their authenticity more clear. Some people will use any method they can come up with to communicate effectively instead of using the excuse to just piss off from the game for a day. So I wanted to see how nova would respond to that challenge. How has he performed?

I will issue a positive grade, though with a minor groan. He has found ways to communicate within the bounds of his restriction, and indeed he has engaged in almost "cheating" activities (no gripe, I've done the same in his position) that don't really apply to the restriction but may not violate it either -- emojis, raw quotes, etc. He's been generally active as much as anyone during the phase and seems to be trying to make the best of it.

Minor groan: the emojis were shite and offer less tangible communication than the other methods he's used. So those sucked. He hasn't wholly relied upon them though so whatever.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:15 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:59 pm I'll just say why I poked nova with the insanity stick:

His rate of contribution had been tailing off for a while, and that was generating increased suspicion alongside interactive bits. His earliest civilian credit had faded. Indeed, he was reverting into the form of Guy Who Posts Gifs.

So I decided he'd make a nice target for my weird ability. In past games, there have been instances where civilians have been hit with some kind of posting restriction, and during that period they operated in a manner that made their authenticity more clear. Some people will use any method they can come up with to communicate effectively instead of using the excuse to just piss off from the game for a day. So I wanted to see how nova would respond to that challenge. How has he performed?

I will issue a positive grade, though with a minor groan. He has found ways to communicate within the bounds of his restriction, and indeed he has engaged in almost "cheating" activities (no gripe, I've done the same in his position) that don't really apply to the restriction but may not violate it either -- emojis, raw quotes, etc. He's been generally active as much as anyone during the phase and seems to be trying to make the best of it.

Minor groan: the emojis were shite and offer less tangible communication than the other methods he's used. So those sucked. He hasn't wholly relied upon them though so whatever.
meh.

really flat meh that you got all that from nova.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:27 pm**

Donald Fagen and Walter Becker looked disappointed.

"Maybe one day it could be a decent B-side."

reywaS never got recorded.

Spoiler: show

It is still Day 4. You don't have much more time to lynch someone. Please do not vote for reywaS.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:32 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:13 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:40 pm I don't think there's anything inherently suspicious about DDL using the role he was given in this way.
timing.

When should he have used it?

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:32 pm**

Later [mention]reywaS[/mention]. Bummer but shit happens. I hope to see you in another game soon!

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:33 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:14 pm meh.

really flat meh that you got all that from nova.

I don't know what you mean. Meh that I targeted nova, or meh that I drew those conclusions?

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:39 pm**

I have a self imposed internet ban today and tomorrow.

I already discussed why timing of ddl was bad. Check my iso .

If you had his role, would you have used it when he did? We're on a role. Who is to say the direction we were headed in was a bad one?

Vig took out ReyWas. Cool. It had to be done.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:39 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:14 pm meh.

really flat meh that you got all that from nova.
I don't know what you mean. Meh that I targeted nova, or meh that I drew those conclusions?

Big meh at your new nova thesis.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:41 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:39 pmI already discussed why timing of ddl was bad. Check my iso .

If you had his role, would you have used it when he did? We're on a role. Who is to say the direction we were headed in was a bad one?

I may have used it when he did, sure. I also don't think it implies that we are "changing direction". I know my own suspect list was loaded with inactive people. There was a good chance I'd have voted for one of these people anyway.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:41 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:39 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:33 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:14 pm meh.

really flat meh that you got all that from nova.
I don't know what you mean. Meh that I targeted nova, or meh that I drew those conclusions?
Big meh at your new nova thesis.

Well kiss my ass. If you have a better way to use my role and derive conclusions, be sure to let me know

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:42 pm**

[VOTE: nijuu] aubergine

Because I’m leaving soon and I don’t want to risk getting back too late to vote.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:43 pm**

Obnoxious.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:45 pm**

Okay

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:48 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:25 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:24 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:22 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:57 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:40 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:43 am - Confirming my role, which historically is a civ one.
Citation needed.
Dont remember seeing a bad version of it.
Do you remember seeing a good version?
I remember seeing versions of it, and if my memory doesn't betray me they were good.
Sure, sure.

That's not a citation though.
Sorry, teacher. Please do not let me fail this module.

The point is, epi hasn't made the roles easily readable. Whatever your claim, it's alignment neutral.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:51 pm**

Screw this. I'm off for the night.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:54 pm**

dunya's beef with DDL about this poll smells like bullshit to me.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:55 pm**

"The timing is bad"

Okay, when is he supposed to it?

"We were going a good direction"

Okay, this doesn't mean we're changing direction.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:06 pm**

Imo he ability gets stronger the earlier I use it.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:07 pm**

[VOTE: Niju] aubergine

Yeah she looks the worst unless someone can give me a better reason for the others.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:33 pm**

I note that rey's role is the first which seems [to me] conclusively civilian in its utility (classic bodyguard). As a mafioso role it is just smoke and mirrors.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:38 pm**

I'm off for a while. I'm good with a niju lynch. Preferred alternative if not her is leetic. k bye

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:59 pm**

it seems way too quiet.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:16 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:59 pm it seems way too quiet.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:16 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:07 pm [VOTE: Niju] aubergine

Yeah she looks the worst unless someone can give me a better reason for the others.

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