The Syndicate

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:31 pm Imma ISO Marmot & Qwags, gimme 30 seconds

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:34 pm Alright

@KZA what's Flanders' wolf meta like, and is he in his scumrange here?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:18 pm I would talk more about the Shrines in order to help the town coordinate better, but it's tough when different townfolk interact in different ways.

For all I know, my visit to Namira could do vastly different things than your visit to Namira. I know that some players have specific Shrines they can visit, and I think they know what those Shrines will do for them. Others, like me, don't have specific Shrines, and interact with them in different ways. I went to a Shrine last night and got nothing, not even a PM saying "nothing happened".

Are the Shrines geared toward their Daedric whatever things? I went to Hircine because it's the Shrine of "the hunt", so I figured it's a lock for getting a track or some way to hunt wolves. Maybe that would work for someone else though. Maybe Meridia's "light and vital energy" will result in a protect. Maybe Hermaeus Mora would provide the player with more knowledge about the game, or even knowledge in a cop-style fashion?

I can't know right now, but maybe some other players do know, am I on the right track at all with this?

Qwags wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:54 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:49 pm

Qwags wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:40 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 8:44 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 8:43 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 8:39 pm God I love being essentially cleared I can just do whatever shit

What're you gonna do next?

See if people want to kill Qwags then maybe hard pivot to Made if the wagon seems too easy

Also kinda hoping you or Kyle are a wolf and the town between you destroys the other

Standard KZA stuff

People always want to kill Qwags crine

Hey qwags do a full reads list

Marmot immediately comes to mind. I know I followed his lead and voted alongside him, but every action thus far is raising red flags.

Qwags wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:54 pmVote Marmot.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:40 pm This game feels like a CDC takeover and I'm enjoying it immensely.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:38 pm Let me help

I'm town

Qwags wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:54 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:49 pm

Qwags wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:40 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 8:44 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 8:43 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 8:39 pm God I love being essentially cleared I can just do whatever shit

What're you gonna do next?

See if people want to kill Qwags then maybe hard pivot to Made if the wagon seems too easy

Also kinda hoping you or Kyle are a wolf and the town between you destroys the other

Standard KZA stuff

People always want to kill Qwags crine

Hey qwags do a full reads list

Marmot immediately comes to mind. I know I followed his lead and voted alongside him, but every action thus far is raising red flags.

KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:43 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:38 pm Let me help

I'm town

can you summarize your reads for us

KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:37 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:34 pm Alright

@KZA what's Flanders' wolf meta like, and is he in his scumrange here?

he's not comfortable, Falcon can probably give you a more nuanced answer since I don't play on CDC anymore

it's worth noting though that a new environment would probably make it easier to wolf for him since not as many people are familiar with him here

I think he's just town personally

KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:48 pm

Qwags wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:54 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:49 pm

Qwags wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:40 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 8:44 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 8:43 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 8:39 pm God I love being essentially cleared I can just do whatever shit

What're you gonna do next?

See if people want to kill Qwags then maybe hard pivot to Made if the wagon seems too easy

Also kinda hoping you or Kyle are a wolf and the town between you destroys the other

Standard KZA stuff

People always want to kill Qwags crine

Hey qwags do a full reads list

Marmot immediately comes to mind. I know I followed his lead and voted alongside him, but every action thus far is raising red flags.

tell us about these red flags imo

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:57 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:37 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:34 pm Alright

@KZA what's Flanders' wolf meta like, and is he in his scumrange here?

he's not comfortable, Falcon can probably give you a more nuanced answer since I don't play on CDC anymore

it's worth noting though that a new environment would probably make it easier to wolf for him since not as many people are familiar with him here

I think he's just town personally

Agreed.


He's not comfortable, but I think that stems from his experience here before. I feel like he enjoyed playing here at first, but was pretty miffed when he & I were NKd N1 in a game.


Flanders is doing what he does as town, his solving feels genuine to me. 'Course, he's fucked me before as Maf, but he's not pocketing me like he does when he's Maf (which only works cuz I love him and would have his babies)

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:23 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 11:18 am

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:15 am how come syn and tim are voting out Marmot. and so is qwags and Made.

and iirc several say made and qwags are real sus. but like tim and syn are real townie.

how come several people don't like Enrique and think he is mafia but not voting him. and nacho, who is voting him is supposed to be sus?

how come tim thinks the voting looks good? what about the voting looks good?

This attitude is similar to my current view of the game. I'm happy to have a few townreads, but I haven't figured out who I think is bad yet. I feel like a lot of posts aren't that alignment-readable maybe... or maybe I skimmed through too much while tired. I think of Qwags for instance, and people loling and saying "Who is Quags?" comes to mind, or how about Mac's bunch of GIFs and votes without explanation. I think he has a whole team of suspects, from that post where he voted 5 players at once. I don't know why, I don't know if he's joking around or if he's just scum and wants to muddy the waters while relaxing in GIF-ville. I do think he could do a better job communicating and that he might not be posting in good faith.

Jack's rhymes are sick, but his obsession with Tim doesn't work for me at all. He just calls everything Tim says a lie, whoop-de-doo, but why?

I don't like Jack's rhymes. and, yeah Mac could use more memes/pictures to convey whst he needs to say. the gifs seem more vague.

and yeah jack does more of a this is bad but not say why. and he does thst when he thinks something is good too. like it means 0 if you don't explain why or how. sorry not sorry that just your word on it isn't enough. and last I checked song lyrics can be more then just 2-3 lines. same with poems. I get it's annoying to ppst in rhyme but if he was actually town and seems like sus by many he would put in more efforts.

since we are talking about both players I think Mac has done more to convey his process in the limits he has then jack. or wait actually it's the same. and jack can actually text and stuff. that probably sounds extremely harsh.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:02 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:57 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:37 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:34 pm Alright

@KZA what's Flanders' wolf meta like, and is he in his scumrange here?

he's not comfortable, Falcon can probably give you a more nuanced answer since I don't play on CDC anymore

it's worth noting though that a new environment would probably make it easier to wolf for him since not as many people are familiar with him here

I think he's just town personally

Agreed.


He's not comfortable, but I think that stems from his experience here before. I feel like he enjoyed playing here at first, but was pretty miffed when he & I were NKd N1 in a game.


Flanders is doing what he does as town, his solving feels genuine to me. 'Course, he's fucked me before as Maf, but he's not pocketing me like he does when he's Maf (which only works cuz I love him and would have his babies)

You too bb.

It's not just a level of comfort, or bitterness towards our hosts because of some bullshit bullying, kill the new guys crap.

There's no hot link for gifs. And I can't figure it out.

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:06 pm Cont- I'm also very lazy. Theres too many long winded posts. If I can't read it in 10 seconds, I'm not going to unless tagged in the post.

Now, I could see how some would say ignoring essays is anti-town, but I think writing them is anti town.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:06 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:02 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:57 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:37 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:34 pm Alright

@KZA what's Flanders' wolf meta like, and is he in his scumrange here?

he's not comfortable, Falcon can probably give you a more nuanced answer since I don't play on CDC anymore

it's worth noting though that a new environment would probably make it easier to wolf for him since not as many people are familiar with him here

I think he's just town personally

Agreed.


He's not comfortable, but I think that stems from his experience here before. I feel like he enjoyed playing here at first, but was pretty miffed when he & I were NKd N1 in a game.


Flanders is doing what he does as town, his solving feels genuine to me. 'Course, he's fucked me before as Maf, but he's not pocketing me like he does when he's Maf (which only works cuz I love him and would have his babies)

You too bb.

It's not just a level of comfort, or bitterness towards our hosts because of some bullshit bullying, kill the new guys crap.

There's no hot link for gifs. And I can't figure it out.

Go into the preview of a post. At the top you'll see an insert image icon, post the link to the gif inside the parentheses.

KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:19 pm I really REALLY don't trust Qwags and Made on the Marmot wagon

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:19 pm Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:06 pm Cont- I'm also very lazy. Theres too many long winded posts. If I can't read it in 10 seconds, I'm not going to unless tagged in the post.

Now, I could see how some would say ignoring essays is anti-town, but I think writing them is anti town.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:07 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:01 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:38 am

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 3:11 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:53 am LOL...well, both pings are one ping...a mention and a quote in the same post.

I feel very wanted! <3

Thank you Daisy!!!

I mouthed off about you! so sorry! owo ♡

but this been a weird nite. I think rl there maybe a chicken trying to murder me is frying my brain. it can't be a chicken.

is this u being a martyr again and that is why you claimed? like don't do that stuff.

No martyr. I need information, so I trade information. My role isn't going to get me anywhere, including killed, in the short term, but in a setup this complicated I think if the entire town tries to keep all their cards tight to their vest we will probably suffer for it. So I shared what looked like it wouldn't hurt to share to lead the way. This seems blatantly obvious, but with five wolves freely sharing information about their roles and how the shrines responded to them they are at a big advantage in figuring stuff out. Some people are gonna take that as role fishing and get timfoily about it and that's just the way it goes.

Now we know some stuff about some stuff.

From the chaos crowd I think maybe we learned something. A bunch of people went to the Sheogorath shrine. At least three claim to have gotten post gimmick curses for their trouble while TSP got a day off the poll, assuming they are all telling the truth. One possibility is that there is a good benefit assigned, maybe randomly or maybe by some priority system, and everyone else gets fucked with. That would fit Sheogorath, lorewise.

That would also make sense of some other issues, like watcher being way to powerful to just hand out to everyone who goes to a shrine. If there is a shrine handing out watcher boons it might just give one per night and everyone else that goes there gets nothing. Gavail says there is a watcher shrine (Nocturnal), and that he chose to go somewhere else last night. That seems like a bad choice to me, and if a lot of people had that choice available it seems like most would have taken it, but we aren't flooded with watcher reports. So only one gets rewarded? Or a lot of people did get watcher power and no one watched Alison get murdered? Or someone did see Alison get murdered and doesn't want to risk telling us about it? Or Gavail is fake on the claim? Some things seem more plausible there than others.

That's what I have put together on the setup. My own input is that one other person went to the same shrine I did (Sanguine) and I have no idea who, or what they got. If whatever gets handed out there is a "only one gets blessed" thing I think I wouldn't even be eligible so it would just go to them automatically. The only thing I can imagine that might come useful out of that info is if for some reason someone admits to being the other Sanguine visitor and then someone else claims they were there too, because that makes one of the three of us a liar. Probably not happening.

Anyway, I was asleep, and woke up to clean up after a puking dog so now I am wide awake at the most inconvenient of times so I'll maybe read some thread here...although the longer I stay up the more screwed my sleep schedule is gonna get.

it would help if @Long Con and @Gavial want to share notes on which shrine they went to N1, because LC says he expected a track and didn't get one, and Gavial says he got one and used it on NANOOK

i mean, if they have reason to suspect that's a bad idea, then don't, but it would help clarify your working theory

I went to Hircine.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:12 pm is Marmot from the same site as Ace Marvel's? if so I think I might have played a game with them. I think I randed wolf.


is Gavial from that site too? if so that might be how Gavial might know me? I have 0 recall of that tho. all I truthfully know is we played 1 game here together and it was the last game, the double elimination game. if he remember me from elsewhere then I got 0 recollect of it.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:12 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:19 pm I really REALLY don't trust Qwags and Made on the Marmot wagon

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:19 pm Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

Mhm, he prefers a TvT.
Qwags/Falcon/Flanders/Daisy/Mac
Quin or Made as scum substitutes.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:18 pmwhy so tilted

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:21 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:18 pmwhy so tilted

He tunneled me to death when I was town in Beelzebub, never changed his read or re evaluated no matter what happened. You can literally flip green and he'll tunnel you, it's infuriating.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:13 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:06 pm Cont- I'm also very lazy. Theres too many long winded posts. If I can't read it in 10 seconds, I'm not going to unless tagged in the post.

Now, I could see how some would say ignoring essays is anti-town, but I think writing them is anti town.

Remember the Simpsons game? Those were intense wall posts from Hugh Jass

KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:25 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:21 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:18 pmwhy so tilted

He tunneled me to death when I was town in Beelzebub, never changed his read or re evaluated no matter what happened. You can literally flip green and he'll tunnel you, it's infuriating.

and he was town too or?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:28 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:22 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:19 pm Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

why aren't you voting? why gavial and Kyle?

why/how is qwags and Marmot townie to u?

I just got back into the game, my vote is coming so hold your britches. Why are you so concerned?


I've already laid out my thoughts on Gav and Kyle.


They're not town to me. Qwags is qwags, and I haven't paid any attention to Marmot.

KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:25 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:21 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:18 pmwhy so tilted

He tunneled me to death when I was town in Beelzebub, never changed his read or re evaluated no matter what happened. You can literally flip green and he'll tunnel you, it's infuriating.

and he was town too or?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:38 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:28 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:22 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:19 pm Qwags vs Marmot, eh?



I prefer Gav or Kyle

why aren't you voting? why gavial and Kyle?

why/how is qwags and Marmot townie to u?

I just got back into the game, my vote is coming so hold your britches. Why are you so concerned?


I've already laid out my thoughts on Gav and Kyle.


They're not town to me. Qwags is qwags, and I haven't paid any attention to Marmot.

I’m sick of hearing the “Qwags is qwags” argument. Perhaps that’s his play to be as ambiguously readable and non-contributory as possible, but i would vote that out more often than not. It does no help if your universal strategy is to always get to the end because no one can understand you nor are you any threat to wolves. Sometimes you need to put forth effort.

Just because the poison pickle used to be not poison doesn’t mean you should eat it with your lunch.

And now this isn’t to say that Qwags is the ONLY one doing this. Hell knows I can name a bevy of MIA or seemingly cavalier personalities in this game.

But we’re 0-3 in kills right now and are completely in the dark so I don’t think the game is warranting not warping into light speed

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:06 pm Cont- I'm also very lazy. Theres too many long winded posts. If I can't read it in 10 seconds, I'm not going to unless tagged in the post.

Now, I could see how some would say ignoring essays is anti-town, but I think writing them is anti town.

KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:45 pm Seanzie died Falcon

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:50 pm Mac, Made and Qwags are all voting marmot. It smells like a save situation.

I also wouldn’t be surprised to see a wolf mate on Qwags for cred

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:53 pm if it helps you I’m gonna go get chaos tonight. Provided I don’t die