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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm
by Esooa
I'm pretty sure the EM players who scum read Matt are doing so with knowledge of LCs meta meta since transcend stopped playing and are projecting that knowledge onto transcend

he doesn't have that meta

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm
by alexa
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:57 am
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:50 am
Transcend wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:16 pm anyways i don't rly tr lime and imma keep my vote here for the time being

i did entertain the thought of him possibly being tmi'd as town due to all the dissent for my vote

but he's still kinda scummy and he may just be in there deeper than ppl think

i also fos ender but i'm gonna try and not be a confbiased pos here just because i feel like i'm on to something
this post gave me a big scum read on transcend earlier cause I've seen him hard commit to bad reads as a wolf before but I'll explain why I think it's good now
Esooa is town.
if anything i'm confident on based on the way she's arguing for matt here it's that lol

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm
by Transcend
@JaggedJimmyJay jagg

I'm hammered now flip me

Next game just sheep esooa on me. Good luck tomorrow <3

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:01 pm
by Esooa
pretty sure there's no day 1 hammers

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:01 pm
by alexa
Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm @JaggedJimmyJay jagg

I'm hammered now flip me

Next game just sheep esooa on me. Good luck tomorrow <3
there's no maj hammer day 1

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm
by alexa
Matt I'd still consider swapping to Mac.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm
by Wiml
[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm
by alexa
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm I'm pretty sure the EM players who scum read Matt are doing so with knowledge of LCs meta meta since transcend stopped playing and are projecting that knowledge onto transcend

he doesn't have that meta
Transcend has a ton of meta with Brad.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm
by Esooa
I'm probably not budging on the transcend read tbh

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm
by alexa
[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm
by Wiml
Honestly I'm fine with a Nook wagon as well.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:03 pm
by Esooa
alexa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm I'm pretty sure the EM players who scum read Matt are doing so with knowledge of LCs meta meta since transcend stopped playing and are projecting that knowledge onto transcend

he doesn't have that meta
Transcend has a ton of meta with Brad.
from chat mafia doesn't he? And I'm pretty sure brad was a better chat mafia wolf

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:04 pm
by Esooa
meaning it's not unreasonable transcend didn't consider LC out of his wolf range at all

mostly just feels like transcend is reading LC like a normal player which isn't unreasonable

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:04 pm
by Esooa
oops I used unreasonable twice

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:05 pm
by Esooa
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm Honestly I'm fine with a Nook wagon as well.
nothing to say about my explanation of transcends LC read fmpov?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:05 pm
by alexa
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:03 pm
alexa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm I'm pretty sure the EM players who scum read Matt are doing so with knowledge of LCs meta meta since transcend stopped playing and are projecting that knowledge onto transcend

he doesn't have that meta
Transcend has a ton of meta with Brad.
from chat mafia doesn't he? And I'm pretty sure brad was a better chat mafia wolf
forum mafia on EM too

it's whatever if you feel super confident on this read i don't want to ignore that and i'm willing to vote outside of him today if it's in my POE but i haven't seen him do anything this game he's not capable of as wolf
so i'm mostly just trying to figure out his reads because v!matt has very solid reads and when those clash with mine too i have trouble seeing the world he's v

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:06 pm
by alexa
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:04 pm meaning it's not unreasonable transcend didn't consider LC out of his wolf range at all

mostly just feels like transcend is reading LC like a normal player which isn't unreasonable
even if it was a random person i don't find the ones he called wolfy from LC actually wolfy

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:08 pm
by Wiml
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm I'm probably not budging on the transcend read tbh
I noticed what you said earlier and I think it's a pretty consistent trend throughout his posts.

My issue was that there was no cohesive progression. He was switching between saying that he thought LC was towntelling and then still tunneling him regardless? I really don't think the strength of the reads he expressed actually matched his actions at all and it reads to me more like poor handling of TMI that LC is town and feeling obliged to townread certain posts that LC made than genuine read progression.

I'm trusting your judgement for today though.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:09 pm
by alexa
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:08 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm I'm probably not budging on the transcend read tbh
I noticed what you said earlier and I think it's a pretty consistent trend throughout his posts.

My issue was that there was no cohesive progression. He was switching between saying that he thought LC was towntelling and then still tunneling him regardless? I really don't think the strength of the reads he expressed actually matched his actions at all and it reads to me more like poor handling of TMI that LC is town and feeling obliged to townread certain posts that LC made than genuine read progression.

I'm trusting your judgement for today though.
this

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:09 pm
by Wiml
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:05 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm Honestly I'm fine with a Nook wagon as well.
nothing to say about my explanation of transcends LC read fmpov?
Yes but it was long lol.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:10 pm
by alexa
Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm @JaggedJimmyJay jagg

I'm hammered now flip me

Next game just sheep esooa on me. Good luck tomorrow <3
also NGL this line does give me cold feet tho if he actually thought he was hammered.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm
by Wiml
Transcend please don't self vote though.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm
by alexa
@Transcend if you didn't see that
there's no early hammer
don't stop fighting if you're village please

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm
by Esooa
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:08 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm I'm probably not budging on the transcend read tbh
He was switching between saying that he thought LC was towntelling and then still tunneling him regardless?
explain

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm
by Esooa
that wiml post is super wolfy imo btw

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:13 pm
by alexa
ngl i do remember one game on EM where transcend was actually V (tracker) and we were all tunneled on him and he subbed out

then his replacement was obvious V

i wish i could rr that game lmao

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:13 pm
by alexa
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm that wiml post is super wolfy imo btw
no it was literally what Matt was doing

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:14 pm
by Transcend
Fwiw i was vote number 5, i wanted to see if anyone would quickblitz me and sure enough alexa sniped me at vote #6.

U played well but ur outed now. Pls don't let her slide out of this, cause she will

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:14 pm
by alexa
Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:14 pm Fwiw i was vote number 5, i wanted to see if anyone would quickblitz me and sure enough alexa sniped me at vote #6.

U played well but ur outed now. Pls don't let her slide out of this, cause she will
...there's literally no majority

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:14 pm
by alexa
also that sounds fake wtf

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:15 pm
by Esooa
I'm not really concerned with Transcends more awkward interactions irt the LC read later on btw

it's hard for me to hold a town read on transcend myself because everyone and people who know him disagree

he's been told he's wrong the same way and that it's wolfy/bad etc

It's not surprising to me that he thus has a more turbulent LC read later

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:15 pm
by Transcend
:ohyeah:
alexa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm @Transcend if you didn't see that
there's no early hammer
don't stop fighting if you're village please
HAHAHA

Lmfao i'm an idiot

Ok going back to sleep, then we can figure out what we're doing

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:16 pm
by alexa
like are you saying you think w!me would try to quick-blitz you day 1 in a mountanous and "out" myself? how is that a real thought?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:17 pm
by Wiml
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:08 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm I'm probably not budging on the transcend read tbh
He was switching between saying that he thought LC was towntelling and then still tunneling him regardless?
explain
I can't find the exact post easily on mobile.

But he made a post that was like "I think LC is starting towntelling" and then immediately went to tunneling him like that post never happened, which was what I was referring to there.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:18 pm
by Wiml
:puppy:
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm that wiml post is super wolfy imo btw
How?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:18 pm
by Esooa
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:17 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:08 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm I'm probably not budging on the transcend read tbh
He was switching between saying that he thought LC was towntelling and then still tunneling him regardless?
explain
I can't find the exact post easily on mobile.

But he made a post that was like "I think LC is starting towntelling" and then immediately went to tunneling him like that post never happened, which was what I was referring to there.
at what point in the game

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:18 pm
by Esooa
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:18 pm :puppy:
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm that wiml post is super wolfy imo btw
How?
:puppy:

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:20 pm
by Wiml
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:18 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:17 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:08 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:02 pm I'm probably not budging on the transcend read tbh
He was switching between saying that he thought LC was towntelling and then still tunneling him regardless?
explain
I can't find the exact post easily on mobile.

But he made a post that was like "I think LC is starting towntelling" and then immediately went to tunneling him like that post never happened, which was what I was referring to there.
at what point in the game
Reasonably early? He said that and then I never saw him reference it again (at the point I ISOed him which was before he flipped his read).

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:21 pm
by Wiml
:shrug:
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:18 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:18 pm :puppy:
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm that wiml post is super wolfy imo btw
How?
:puppy:

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:21 pm
by alexa
matt you genuinely thought it was majority?

so you thought i tried to blitz you and that made me outed (despite this being a mountanous with multiple MLs and you know if i'm a wolf i'd set myself up to go deep)? and despite me vocalizing suspicion on you with everyone in the thread all day knowing in a w!me v!you world i'd have no problem getting you flipped without "blitzing"? like you were self-voting to test if anyone would blitz you day one in a forum game..? i'm just kind of baffled by this logic

can you explain your thought process? @Transcend

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:22 pm
by Esooa
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:21 pm :shrug:
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:18 pm
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:18 pm :puppy:
Esooa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm that wiml post is super wolfy imo btw
How?
:puppy:
:shrug:

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:22 pm
by Transcend
Can I get a Guinness World Record for most time discussed during a D1 in a mafia game?

Discussion about my slot has clogged up this entire fucking day. I'm glad y'all are obsessed but holy shit you're gonna get nowhere if you only evaluate one person when you have nine others to look at.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:22 pm
by alexa
Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:14 pm Fwiw i was vote number 5, i wanted to see if anyone would quickblitz me and sure enough alexa sniped me at vote #6.

U played well but ur outed now. Pls don't let her slide out of this, cause she will
@Esooa do you not find this post odd

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:23 pm
by Transcend
alexa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:21 pm matt you genuinely thought it was majority?

so you thought i tried to blitz you and that made me outed (despite this being a mountanous with multiple MLs and you know if i'm a wolf i'd set myself up to go deep)? and despite me vocalizing suspicion on you with everyone in the thread all day knowing in a w!me v!you world i'd have no problem getting you flipped without "blitzing"? like you were self-voting to test if anyone would blitz you day one in a forum game..? i'm just kind of baffled by this logic

can you explain your thought process? @Transcend
In my defense I just woke up and now I'm going back to sleep

I'll be back before eod

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:24 pm
by alexa
Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:23 pm
alexa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:21 pm matt you genuinely thought it was majority?

so you thought i tried to blitz you and that made me outed (despite this being a mountanous with multiple MLs and you know if i'm a wolf i'd set myself up to go deep)? and despite me vocalizing suspicion on you with everyone in the thread all day knowing in a w!me v!you world i'd have no problem getting you flipped without "blitzing"? like you were self-voting to test if anyone would blitz you day one in a forum game..? i'm just kind of baffled by this logic

can you explain your thought process? @Transcend
In my defense I just woke up and now I'm going back to sleep

I'll be back before eod
alright

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:24 pm
by Wiml
alexa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:21 pm matt you genuinely thought it was majority?

so you thought i tried to blitz you and that made me outed (despite this being a mountanous with multiple MLs and you know if i'm a wolf i'd set myself up to go deep)? and despite me vocalizing suspicion on you with everyone in the thread all day knowing in a w!me v!you world i'd have no problem getting you flipped without "blitzing"? like you were self-voting to test if anyone would blitz you day one in a forum game..? i'm just kind of baffled by this logic

can you explain your thought process? @Transcend
As absurd as it is it's probably the towniest thing he's done all game lol.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:25 pm
by Esooa
alexa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:22 pm
Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:14 pm Fwiw i was vote number 5, i wanted to see if anyone would quickblitz me and sure enough alexa sniped me at vote #6.

U played well but ur outed now. Pls don't let her slide out of this, cause she will
@Esooa do you not find this post odd
it kind of is

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:26 pm
by Esooa
[VOTE: wiml] aubergine

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:26 pm
by alexa
Wiml wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:24 pm
alexa wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:21 pm matt you genuinely thought it was majority?

so you thought i tried to blitz you and that made me outed (despite this being a mountanous with multiple MLs and you know if i'm a wolf i'd set myself up to go deep)? and despite me vocalizing suspicion on you with everyone in the thread all day knowing in a w!me v!you world i'd have no problem getting you flipped without "blitzing"? like you were self-voting to test if anyone would blitz you day one in a forum game..? i'm just kind of baffled by this logic

can you explain your thought process? @Transcend
As absurd as it is it's probably the towniest thing he's done all game lol.
i thought the first post about him saying to flip him and to sheep Esooa in the future was towny, but the subsequent post on me being "outed" makes no sense to me from a logical villager perspective (and yes i do feel like all the times we've caught matt as wolf it's been based on his wildt logic)

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:27 pm
by Esooa
@Wiml why did you think my saying Alexa may be a wolf was wolfy