The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:22 pm Jackofhearts2005, you've been treating Wilgy and Simon as foregone-conclusion mafia members. What inspires such confidence?

ISO me or follow me and find out.

I think he was asking what LC and Kyle and Glor were instigating about Lap.

Is Simon 100 percent scum, Jack?

We've been over this in Mountains. I won't claim to have info or admit I don't. It's against the rules.

Simon has 4 votes.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:27 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:22 pm Jackofhearts2005, you've been treating Wilgy and Simon as foregone-conclusion mafia members. What inspires such confidence?

ISO me or follow me and find out.

I think he was asking what LC and Kyle and Glor were instigating about Lap.

Is Simon 100 percent scum, Jack?

We've been over this in Mountains. I won't claim to have info or admit I don't. It's against the rules.

I didn't ask that. I asked you is Simon 100% scum in your opinion? Will he flip scum?

Like everyone is town to Jack except Simon and Wilgy and me. Somethings up. Let's lynch Simon I guess.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:25 pm Look how hard it is to lynch Simon when he's so clearly bad.

Look how many people coming up with excuses to leave Simon alone or voting for no reason (particularly, Dunya, Wilgy, other two most suspicious players).

They sooooooooo bad.

I wouldn't be surprised to see either of them flip mafia. They've done very little in this game.

dunya is not suspicious and your reason for that is bogus. Marmot's self-vote gave her pause, something I believe because of the Uncle Leo incident of Seinfeld, and when informed that Marmot is a self-voting machine she stopped caring. What's the problem?

I would vote Simon to prevent a dunya lynch. I have no idea why you're so crazy about it with so little content to assess.

Why is Simon or DrWilgy a better lynch than Marmot, for example?

Also consider the matter of speedchuck -- MacDougall is treating him the same way you are treating Simon and Wilgy, and that lynch is proving at least as difficult to generate. Is speedchuck sooooooooo bad?

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:31 pm Like everyone is town to Jack except Simon and Wilgy and me. Somethings up. Let's lynch Simon I guess.

What makes you think you're civilian?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:20 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:17 pm How da fua is there a case on Simon?

What about Dave? Or Eloh or......

Simon's more caseable than Dave. But if you make a case on Dave I'll read it.

Speaking of Elohcin, where is she. Oh I see she has a migraine.

Alright, here me out now. Dave has two posts. Simon has 7. Now if we go by what I have been told the mafia like to hide, are lazy and will look for every excuse to not play the game with 100% zeal.

Dave posts go as follows.....
Last activity: Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:04 am


Fist post:

Dave wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:04 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm okay before we get too much further i want to ask real quick...

Dave
Glorfindel
Gumshoe
lapluie
MacDougall
novaselinenever
TonyStarkPrime

could you each briefly summarize your past mafia playing history? How long have you been playing for? What site are you from? Have you played on the syndicate before? If no, are there any players in this game you have prior experience playing with?

i have some town of salem games on oro jackson still i m new to trad format and this one which much read based then abilites based which i m used to

Absolute rubbish.

Dave wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:02 pm although i m new to format and lack knowledge of mortal kombat i voted for outworld too as it makes sense as explained by jay, given current scum reads i dont have one i see dat people sus quin but i have to read more from him to give a verdict

Second Post, More rubbish. Both posts on day 2.......

How does this not fit the criteria I have been given? Anyway, how can you be sure of Simon? He is more active then dave, so....

WTF? How do you judge either of them?
You don't but if a teammate was in trouble it might be time to go after a low poster. Not when half the thread was posting nutzo, now, for some reason.....

Day 0 not day 2....

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:00 pm Regarding Speedchuck, his finalvotes have been yuck until today. Nobody's forgetting that or Mac's insistence that he is bad. We should all remember these things as well as Speed's skill in faking being a townie.....and vote elsewhere for now.

Wert speedchuck, can you elaborate on this post Jack?

Why did you earlier encourage players to vote away from speedchuck?

Cause

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:00 pm Regarding Speedchuck, his finalvotes have been yuck until today. Nobody's forgetting that or Mac's insistence that he is bad. We should all remember these things as well as Speed's skill in faking being a townie.....and vote elsewhere for now.

Why

Cause a 90% chance to catch scum with a 10% chance to mislynch an unhelpful townie is better than a 50% chance to catch scum and a 50% chance to mislynch a really helpful townie.

Plus, I'd rather bet the game on Day 8 on 8 days of actual Speedchuck content than have to do it on basically half a day of content some of the other players are going to give by that point in time.

We have time to let Speedchuck prove or bury himself. Simon's at max badness right now.

I might be inclined to trust jack here, based on the fact that I think he's civ and I don't think he's the type of player to fuck around recklessly.

I would however like to hear explanations of the cases on the two players named after large rodents

did you know marmots are classified as large squirrels? I just found that out

Elohs migraine is not a baddie tactic to lay low?

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] What is the Uncle Leo incident?

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:33 pm Elohs migraine is not a baddie tactic to lay low?

I've seen those types before, usually it ends up bad. But who knows

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:34 pm @JaggedJimmyJay What is the Uncle Leo incident?

I believe it was a first-time player on the site playing in an Uncle Leo sock. After dealing with a lot of suspicion in a late game phase, she became really frustrated and voted for herself. She was a civilian.

lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:34 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:33 pm Elohs migraine is not a baddie tactic to lay low?

I've seen those types before, usually it ends up bad. But who knows

Sorry, should have looked like this....

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:34 pm @JaggedJimmyJay What is the Uncle Leo incident?

A townie was so frustrated by the conversation she voted herself to be lynched for the better good of the game etc. Dramatic and manipulative if scum. But heartfelt and frustrated passion as townie. I hate both scenarios but we didn't vote for her and she survived the game.

Simon had no posts on day 3, how the fuck does this make any sense?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:33 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:00 pm Regarding Speedchuck, his finalvotes have been yuck until today. Nobody's forgetting that or Mac's insistence that he is bad. We should all remember these things as well as Speed's skill in faking being a townie.....and vote elsewhere for now.

Wert speedchuck, can you elaborate on this post Jack?

Why did you earlier encourage players to vote away from speedchuck?

Cause

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:00 pm Regarding Speedchuck, his finalvotes have been yuck until today. Nobody's forgetting that or Mac's insistence that he is bad. We should all remember these things as well as Speed's skill in faking being a townie.....and vote elsewhere for now.

Why

Cause a 90% chance to catch scum with a 10% chance to mislynch an unhelpful townie is better than a 50% chance to catch scum and a 50% chance to mislynch a really helpful townie.

Plus, I'd rather bet the game on Day 8 on 8 days of actual Speedchuck content than have to do it on basically half a day of content some of the other players are going to give by that point in time.

We have time to let Speedchuck prove or bury himself. Simon's at max badness right now.

I agree with this post except for the percentages.

Don't we have a 100% chance of catching scum in Simon?

If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:35 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:34 pm @JaggedJimmyJay What is the Uncle Leo incident?

I believe it was a first-time player on the site playing in an Uncle Leo sock. After dealing with a lot of suspicion in a late game phase, she became really frustrated and voted for herself. She was a civilian.

I want to meet this player!

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

Yeah, and if he flips mafia he could have been sacrificed. This is what I'm thinking might be going on.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

I didn't even see you'd taken your vote off me or jjj voted Simon. at this point I'm inclined to believe Jack has info. If he doesn't he's being silly.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm Simon had no posts on day 3, how the fuck does this make any sense?

Made has also disappeared, very bizarre. doesn't always necessarily mean they are bad, but I played one time with players who did not show up because they did not care for their roles, as they would presume it being a weak or non helpful contributions

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

I didn't even see you'd taken your vote off me or jjj voted Simon. at this point I'm inclined to believe Jack has info. If he doesn't he's being silly.

Same. My pages are loading like garbage, and I can't really keep up with the tally motion. I'd lynch speedchuck to save dunya too.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:35 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:34 pm @JaggedJimmyJay What is the Uncle Leo incident?

I believe it was a first-time player on the site playing in an Uncle Leo sock. After dealing with a lot of suspicion in a late game phase, she became really frustrated and voted for herself. She was a civilian.

Sounds like me having a mafia break down (lol)

I don't think we're in this place in the absence of information. The surety of that information can be questioned, but I have no good reason to read Simon as a civilian.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

Yeah, and if he flips mafia he could have been sacrificed. This is what I'm thinking might be going on.

I do feel like the simon wagon took off a little quickly when we previously had a 4 way tie .

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

I didn't even see you'd taken your vote off me or jjj voted Simon. at this point I'm inclined to believe Jack has info. If he doesn't he's being silly.

Silly? Why would Jack pretend such a thing when one of his alternate suspects, speedchuck, is a counter wagon?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:42 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

I didn't even see you'd taken your vote off me or jjj voted Simon. at this point I'm inclined to believe Jack has info. If he doesn't he's being silly.

Same. My pages are loading like garbage, and I can't really keep up with the tally motion. I'd lynch speedchuck to save dunya too.

Tie it up between Speed and Simon and I would believe you.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:42 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

I didn't even see you'd taken your vote off me or jjj voted Simon. at this point I'm inclined to believe Jack has info. If he doesn't he's being silly.

Same. My pages are loading like garbage, and I can't really keep up with the tally motion. I'd lynch speedchuck to save dunya too.

Tie it up between Speed and Simon and I would believe you.

I did

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:42 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

I didn't even see you'd taken your vote off me or jjj voted Simon. at this point I'm inclined to believe Jack has info. If he doesn't he's being silly.

Same. My pages are loading like garbage, and I can't really keep up with the tally motion. I'd lynch speedchuck to save dunya too.

Tie it up between Speed and Simon and I would believe you.

I don't give a shit whether you believe me. Sell me on a speedchuck lynch. What's your biggest grievance with his play?

lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:41 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm Simon had no posts on day 3, how the fuck does this make any sense?

Made has also disappeared, very bizarre. doesn't always necessarily mean they are bad, but I played one time with players who did not show up because they did not care for their roles, as they would presume it being a weak or non helpful contributions

There are no weak roles only weak players and unbalanced games.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:46 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:42 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

I didn't even see you'd taken your vote off me or jjj voted Simon. at this point I'm inclined to believe Jack has info. If he doesn't he's being silly.

Same. My pages are loading like garbage, and I can't really keep up with the tally motion. I'd lynch speedchuck to save dunya too.

Tie it up between Speed and Simon and I would believe you.

I don't give a shit whether you believe me. Sell me on a speedchuck lynch. What's your biggest grievance with his play?

At this point the train on Simon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:47 pm

lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:41 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm Simon had no posts on day 3, how the fuck does this make any sense?

Made has also disappeared, very bizarre. doesn't always necessarily mean they are bad, but I played one time with players who did not show up because they did not care for their roles, as they would presume it being a weak or non helpful contributions

There are no weak roles only weak players and unbalanced games.

Unbalanced games?

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:46 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:42 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

I didn't even see you'd taken your vote off me or jjj voted Simon. at this point I'm inclined to believe Jack has info. If he doesn't he's being silly.

Same. My pages are loading like garbage, and I can't really keep up with the tally motion. I'd lynch speedchuck to save dunya too.

Tie it up between Speed and Simon and I would believe you.

I did

Not the same.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:47 pm At this point the train on Simon.

What do you think Jack is doing re: Simon?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:48 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:47 pm At this point the train on Simon.

What do you think Jack is doing re: Simon?

Getting him lynched.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:48 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:46 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:42 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm If Simom does flip civ it should be noted that JJJ and Dunya switched to simon after I voted for speed and tied it briefly. So if Simon does flip civ and speed votes mafia then it should be noted who saved him.

I didn't even see you'd taken your vote off me or jjj voted Simon. at this point I'm inclined to believe Jack has info. If he doesn't he's being silly.

Same. My pages are loading like garbage, and I can't really keep up with the tally motion. I'd lynch speedchuck to save dunya too.

Tie it up between Speed and Simon and I would believe you.

I did

Not the same.

Fine I take it back

There was one speedchuck moment I can point to that I distinctly dislike -- the "suspicious" emoji he gave to confirmed dead civilian MacDougall.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:47 pm

lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:41 pm

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm Simon had no posts on day 3, how the fuck does this make any sense?

Made has also disappeared, very bizarre. doesn't always necessarily mean they are bad, but I played one time with players who did not show up because they did not care for their roles, as they would presume it being a weak or non helpful contributions

There are no weak roles only weak players and unbalanced games.

I'm certainly aware of that, but as I said, not everybody is going to appreciate their roles to make any contribution in games

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:49 pm Fine I take it back

Switcheroo

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:50 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:49 pm Fine I take it back

Switcheroo

Jjj
Ily <3

I don't like ties.

I also just learned that MacDougall is indeed a confirmed dead civilian.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:52 pm I don't like ties.

I also just learned that MacDougall is indeed a confirmed dead civilian.

Don't read the thread. Its a waste of time.....

The most recent page of speedchuck's ISO is heavy in self-defense and neutral commentary. Indeed, the only "hunting" I see is an agreement with dunya wondering aloud about LC as Kano. He griped at confirmed dead civilian MacDougall again. Not great.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:52 pm I don't like ties.

I also just learned that MacDougall is indeed a confirmed dead civilian.

his votes still count though, no?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:52 pm
I also just learned that MacDougall is indeed a confirmed dead civilian.

How far do you go...

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:53 pm The most recent page of speedchuck's ISO is heavy in self-defense and neutral commentary. Indeed, the only "hunting" I see is an agreement with dunya wondering aloud about LC as Kano. He griped at confirmed dead civilian MacDougall again. Not great.

Dead civilian MacDougall has posted almost exclusively "speedchuck is bad". Word for word. speedchuck's response does not make me feel the same way as you do.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:53 pm The most recent page of speedchuck's ISO is heavy in self-defense and neutral commentary. Indeed, the only "hunting" I see is an agreement with dunya wondering aloud about LC as Kano. He griped at confirmed dead civilian MacDougall again. Not great.

Why is griping at a dead civilian a bad look?