The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:50 pm Oh wait, nevermind that was the rules/playerlist/op. Seems like everyone got that.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:21 pm

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:49 am I woke up in the middle of the night and found myself about to be CFD'd so I made another last minute push for Wilgy. As I said before Wilgy could be the Hollow Man so I'm not necessarily wrong. On my square there's an item i found called the Mirror of Truth which told me he might be bad.

"He could be Hollow Man" is absolute garbage reasoning

Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Anybody could be Hollow Man or forged. I don't think it's productive to dwell on that whenever someone dies. Keep it in the back of our minds, sure, but there's no real value in digging that hole every day.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Yuck.

Also not caught up all the way, but I dont want to lynch Mac, though i do think a sloonie lynch is becoming more viable.

Basically with the town leaders/high speed civs we need this strategy if they keep leading us wrong we need them gone. This is true fpr epi, mac, and sloonie. Since rhe longer they're alive and the more mislynches they led the more likely it is they're mafia

sig's vote was on DharmaHelper. No one else voted for DharmaHelper. Sig came on near the end of the day to shrug at every single case that existed. Sig then left. Sig is now blasting others for lynching wilgy.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:34 pm Also not caught up all the way, but I dont want to lynch Mac, though i do think a sloonie lynch is becoming more viable.

Basically with the town leaders/high speed civs we need this strategy if they keep leading us wrong we need them gone. This is true fpr epi, mac, and sloonie. Since rhe longer they're alive and the more mislynches they led the more likely it is they're mafia

YUCK

Also I'm finally done this semester, driving home tomorrow so starting Saturday I'll be able to dive in do some isos and really get down and dirty in this game. Unless I get abducted by aliens, eaten by West Virginia inbreds, orrrrrr decide I'd rather not post.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:34 pm sig's vote was on DharmaHelper. No one else voted for DharmaHelper. Sig came on near the end of the day to shrug at every single case that existed. Sig then left. Sig is now blasting others for lynching wilgy.

I mean i blasted them when I was here to. Anyone who knows Wilgy knows that was a bad vote and more active players agreed with me. And tbf Mac was also on DH and I'd have not switched over to ttranq so my vote would've been wasted against that bandwagon.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:08 pm No guys seriously its 6.

4 dead roles. And 2 extra roles in the OP.

QED

4 dead roles, 2 roles that are in the game and in the op why make the list 32 when the requirement is 30?

I need to know how/when/where tranq got that item, because not only does it sound contradictory, but im pretty sure it's a lie to compensate for mislynching wilgy

a half assed sounding one at that

by "it" i mean that entire post and what info he said he got

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:39 pm I need to know how/when/where tranq got that item, because not only does it sound contradictory, but im pretty sure it's a lie to compensate for mislynching wilgy

a half assed sounding one at that

Oof.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Yuck.

~~~ Edited by Long Con and JaggedJimmyJay back to its original form.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Yuck.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Oh so you're saying we were on mafia before the CFDs? Interesting.

Your sabie reasoning is trash

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Yuck.

This is good, actually.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:39 pm I need to know how/when/where tranq got that item, because not only does it sound contradictory, but im pretty sure it's a lie to compensate for mislynching wilgy

a half assed sounding one at that

sprityo when you say it sounds contradictory are you just saying it's contradictory because wilgy flipped civ or do you mean something else? I think all of us would like to know how/when/where tranq got the Mirror but I don't think he can respond to at least some of that per the rules. Thats my take at least.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:34 pm Also not caught up all the way, but I dont want to lynch Mac, though i do think a sloonie lynch is becoming more viable.

Basically with the town leaders/high speed civs we need this strategy if they keep leading us wrong we need them gone. This is true fpr epi, mac, and sloonie. Since rhe longer they're alive and the more mislynches they led the more likely it is they're mafia

Wtf we have 30 people and I'm assuming something like 12-14 are civ, lynching 2 civs the first 2 days is always the most likely outcome.

Also I'm still reading but I don't see sloonei driving a wilgy train at all so far. Mac correctly called the wilgy lynch as Garbo, iirc Epi wasn't a fan either.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:10 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:34 pm Also not caught up all the way, but I dont want to lynch Mac, though i do think a sloonie lynch is becoming more viable.

Basically with the town leaders/high speed civs we need this strategy if they keep leading us wrong we need them gone. This is true fpr epi, mac, and sloonie. Since rhe longer they're alive and the more mislynches they led the more likely it is they're mafia

Wtf we have 30 people and I'm assuming something like 12-14 are civ, lynching 2 civs the first 2 days is always the most likely outcome.

Also I'm still reading but I don't see sloonei driving a wilgy train at all so far. Mac correctly called the wilgy lynch as Garbo, iirc Epi wasn't a fan either.

EBWOP 12-14 aren't civ

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Actually I've never played on another site I was on this site playing from 2014 to 2016 so all this info dumping stuff is completely new to me I dont remember that being a thing before. I've explained a few times that I was here then had a brain tumor and was out of the game for awhile and came back recently. I dont know how any of that led you to the conclusions you're making now.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:12 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:10 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:34 pm Also not caught up all the way, but I dont want to lynch Mac, though i do think a sloonie lynch is becoming more viable.

Basically with the town leaders/high speed civs we need this strategy if they keep leading us wrong we need them gone. This is true fpr epi, mac, and sloonie. Since rhe longer they're alive and the more mislynches they led the more likely it is they're mafia

Wtf we have 30 people and I'm assuming something like 12-14 are civ, lynching 2 civs the first 2 days is always the most likely outcome.

Also I'm still reading but I don't see sloonei driving a wilgy train at all so far. Mac correctly called the wilgy lynch as Garbo, iirc Epi wasn't a fan either.

EBWOP 12-14 aren't civ

Haha I was looking at that 12-14 number and thinking he thinks we've only got 12-14 civs? How could that be?

Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Yuck.

This is good, actually.

my post or sig's?

sig is lamenting both the wilgy lynch, and the late bandwagon which was pushed as a counter to the wilgy lynch. Like, what?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:08 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:39 pm I need to know how/when/where tranq got that item, because not only does it sound contradictory, but im pretty sure it's a lie to compensate for mislynching wilgy

a half assed sounding one at that

sprityo when you say it sounds contradictory are you just saying it's contradictory because wilgy flipped civ or do you mean something else? I think all of us would like to know how/when/where tranq got the Mirror but I don't think he can respond to at least some of that per the rules. Thats my take at least.

if he "FOUND" it on the map like he said he did, then i know he's allowed to

also i clarified "it" in teh post below it juliets

in any case im referring to something else

I can already tell, this is gonna be one of the games where I get night killed

im not getting threatened with being lynched every 5 sesconds

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:23 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:08 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:39 pm I need to know how/when/where tranq got that item, because not only does it sound contradictory, but im pretty sure it's a lie to compensate for mislynching wilgy

a half assed sounding one at that

sprityo when you say it sounds contradictory are you just saying it's contradictory because wilgy flipped civ or do you mean something else? I think all of us would like to know how/when/where tranq got the Mirror but I don't think he can respond to at least some of that per the rules. Thats my take at least.

if he "FOUND" it on the map like he said he did, then i know he's allowed to

Ok thanks. I thought we couldn't discuss specific map locations.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:39 pm I need to know how/when/where tranq got that item, because not only does it sound contradictory, but im pretty sure it's a lie to compensate for mislynching wilgy

a half assed sounding one at that

It's pretty much exactly the same as your telling us about the old woman in the woods--except that he isn't taking the information as solid fact. At least that's how I'm reading things.

Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Yuck.

This is good, actually.

I'm in the yuck camp myself as well

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:13 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Actually I've never played on another site I was on this site playing from 2014 to 2016 so all this info dumping stuff is completely new to me I dont remember that being a thing before. I've explained a few times that I was here then had a brain tumor and was out of the game for awhile and came back recently. I dont know how any of that led you to the conclusions you're making now.

You're just so skilled I assumed you had experience on other sites.

Either way consider it a compliment I think you handled the accusation really well in a scum way.

See this is a cultural thing imo, on most sites I've played on. you get info and theres either a counter claim and the original accuser gets lynched or whomever theyve got info on is lynched.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:18 pm sig is lamenting both the wilgy lynch, and the late bandwagon which was pushed as a counter to the wilgy lynch. Like, what?

Yes.

And the secondary portion of my thing, re mac, epi, and sloonie was more a general thing. Just in case I die I wanted to throw that out.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:48 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:13 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Actually I've never played on another site I was on this site playing from 2014 to 2016 so all this info dumping stuff is completely new to me I dont remember that being a thing before. I've explained a few times that I was here then had a brain tumor and was out of the game for awhile and came back recently. I dont know how any of that led you to the conclusions you're making now.

You're just so skilled I assumed you had experience on other sites.

Either way consider it a compliment I think you handled the accusation really well in a scum way.

Nice backhanded compliment there. I just know I'm playing an honest game and I'm not lying which is why I come off so calm about everything. Being civ I dont have to lie about anything I know I'm good and I'm playing the best I can.

Also what am I deflecting and is there a difference between mafia and baddies? aren't they the same thing?

Also also assuming things about my life and what I do outside of this site is not really an argument against me is it?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:56 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:48 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:13 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Actually I've never played on another site I was on this site playing from 2014 to 2016 so all this info dumping stuff is completely new to me I dont remember that being a thing before. I've explained a few times that I was here then had a brain tumor and was out of the game for awhile and came back recently. I dont know how any of that led you to the conclusions you're making now.

You're just so skilled I assumed you had experience on other sites.

Either way consider it a compliment I think you handled the accusation really well in a scum way.

Nice backhanded compliment there. I just know I'm playing an honest game and I'm not lying which is why I come off so calm about everything. Being civ I dont have to lie about anything I know I'm good and I'm playing the best I can.

Also what am I deflecting and is there a difference between mafia and baddies? aren't they the same thing?

Also also assuming things about my life and what I do outside of this site is not really an argument against me is it?

Assuming you've played on other sites is something that makes perfect sense. It's very important to figuring out strategy and what not so no need to be aggressive.

And nah I use term scum, baddie, and Mafia Interchangably.

See I think you're doing a good job of looking calm and .maybe you are, but that combined with info is enough to lynch you. Especially in the early game.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:50 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:18 pm sig is lamenting both the wilgy lynch, and the late bandwagon which was pushed as a counter to the wilgy lynch. Like, what?

Yes.

What should we have done?

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:50 pm And the secondary portion of my thing, re mac, epi, and sloonie was more a general thing. Just in case I die I wanted to throw that out.

"Guys let's lynch our leaders because they've led us on mislynches even though none of them were really driving either of these lynches and Mac is kind of not leading anybody and epi was basically catching up all d2"

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:01 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:50 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:18 pm sig is lamenting both the wilgy lynch, and the late bandwagon which was pushed as a counter to the wilgy lynch. Like, what?

Yes.

What should we have done?

Looked for more people or consolidated on another lynch. Even gman would've been better. The last minute cfd was weird and wiggly was a wagon all day. And ik to a degree I'm arm chair quarterbacking, but men to bad.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:01 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:50 pm And the secondary portion of my thing, re mac, epi, and sloonie was more a general thing. Just in case I die I wanted to throw that out.

"Guys let's lynch our leaders because they've led us on mislynches even though none of them were really driving either of these lynches and Mac is kind of not leading anybody and epi was basically catching up all d2"

Mac agrees with me. In fact he used that same logic when he was left alive in Greek mafia I believe.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:48 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:28 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:53 am Just popping in for a second. I also was referring to the hollow man role that can appear civ when lynched. Its possible. Or it's possible we were just wrong. Wilgy never bothered to defend himself or do anything really so it's hard to tell. I will have to look more into the 5 people sloonei was suspecting and see where the tranq thing came from as it happened pretty quick. I had been suspecting quin before so I'll have to look more closely there. I think the inh suspicion comes from being unsure where his info came from all of a sudden out of nowhere at the end of the day after not being around for awhile and everyone thinking he was silenced. This end if day was weird to say the least.

Why does it feel like every post you make is formatted in those carefully constructed 5-6 line paragraphs that make a bunch of short comments in a few subjects each?

Just a random thought.

That's just how I talk. I have to try to type everything out on a phone and it's easier if I just try to get all my thoughts in one post rather than keep trying to go back. I cant really do a lot of copy pasting or going back and forth between pages and all that. I'm too poor to buy a laptop unfortunately.

DDL class shaming Sabie

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:03 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:01 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:50 pm And the secondary portion of my thing, re mac, epi, and sloonie was more a general thing. Just in case I die I wanted to throw that out.

"Guys let's lynch our leaders because they've led us on mislynches even though none of them were really driving either of these lynches and Mac is kind of not leading anybody and epi was basically catching up all d2"

Mac agrees with me. In fact he used that same logic when he was left alive in Greek mafia I believe.

I agree with you. I also have a civ read on you. Sig and Mac vs. the world.

I also find most things Sig is saying to be reasonable. The Wilgy lynch made some sense given the info we had and the way Sabie treated it but he is a very easy mislynch too and CFDs really are nonsense.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:18 pm sig is lamenting both the wilgy lynch, and the late bandwagon which was pushed as a counter to the wilgy lynch. Like, what?

For example I don’t see a problem with this ... independently of one another, it’s perfectly reasonable to dislike two competing wagons and be town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:34 pm sig's vote was on DharmaHelper. No one else voted for DharmaHelper. Sig came on near the end of the day to shrug at every single case that existed. Sig then left. Sig is now blasting others for lynching wilgy.

My vote was on Kylemii as a lone lyncher. Am I scum?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:03 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Oh so you're saying we were on mafia before the CFDs? Interesting.

Your sabie reasoning is trash

And I think his Sabie reasoning is pretty good. Something strange there as far as the old lady goes and her actions re: Wilgy don’t help her case one bit.

What I’m gettinf at is, I’m in love with Sig.

*getting

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:01 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:50 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:18 pm sig is lamenting both the wilgy lynch, and the late bandwagon which was pushed as a counter to the wilgy lynch. Like, what?

Yes.

What should we have done?

Looked for more people or consolidated on another lynch. Even gman would've been better. The last minute cfd was weird and wiggly was a wagon all day. And ik to a degree I'm arm chair quarterbacking, but men to bad.

That’s not unfair. I wanted to change back to G-man at the end of the day but was prevented by technical issues and by the time I could have done it, everyone had moved off him and we had like 30 seconds left. But that in itself might suggest it wasn’t gonna happen. He’d also been a wagon all day, but never got more than 4 votes.

The Tranq wagon struck me as a push to shake things up and move away from the unsatisfying wilgy lynch. I don’t think it makes sense to criticize them in the same breath. Maybe instead we should ask why the votes were on tranq specifically, and not G-man. I don’t think that’s a deep mystery though.

My bigger concern is with the people who weren’t doing anything. I include you in that group. I include Quin. I include Enrique, Tranq, maybe some others once I’ve reviewed. My biggest takeaway from the deadline is how lifeless it was. Lots of people were hanging around the thread, but very few people seemed to care about what was happening. It seemed like there was a conscious energy conspiring to prevent us from moving away from the wilgy lynch.