The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:28 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:25 pm Seriously, you can’t tell if “everyone has BTSC” is a towns power or not? Double lynch? These are definitely strongly Town favored options. @jackie

I don’t want to tell you how to use the later in a game breaking way but hell I voted for it.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:28 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:27 pm Secret TK is not town sided.

Yesterday was a pretty much perfect example why.

Yeah, I'm not salty about that at all.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:31 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:27 pm Secret TK is not town sided.

Yesterday was a pretty much perfect example why.

Mmm, you’re wrong. I think. I don’t know. I don’t think it’s stupidly broken for town, but it’s almost certainly a better baseline.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:31 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:58 pm Hyena

Jackofhearts2005

Town

Town

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:31 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:28 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:25 pm Seriously, you can’t tell if “everyone has BTSC” is a towns power or not? Double lynch? These are definitely strongly Town favored options. @jackie
I don’t want to tell you how to use the later in a game breaking way but hell I voted for it.

not very helpful

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:32 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:27 pm Secret TK is not town sided.

Yesterday was a pretty much perfect example why.
Mmm, you’re wrong. I think. I don’t know. I don’t think it’s stupidly broken for town, but it’s almost certainly a better baseline.

I pretty well disagree, but we can talk about it after the game.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:32 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:31 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:58 pm Hyena

Jackofhearts2005
Town

Town

A wild Wilgy appears!

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:32 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:59 pm juliets

Nanook

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Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:33 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:01 pm MP7

speed

Tony

W

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Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 pm**

Fun fact, Tony has alignment equity with Juliets and Wilgy.

Says the guy who gth put it as Tony + MP.

I’m anticipating a loss.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:35 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:22 pm

Well, hopefully that is helpful. Interestingly, Tony is the overwhelming option for scum.

If all of DDL, Hyena, Jack, and Nanook are indeed town, I think we've won? Almost.

Well, if we add Wilgy's onto this, it changes to:

DDL 4-1
Wilgy 2-3
Hyena 5-0
Jack 5-0
juliets 2-3
Nanook 6-0
MP7 3-2
speed 5-1
Tony 1-5

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 pm Fun fact, Tony has alignment equity with Juliets and Wilgy.

Says the guy who gth put it as Tony + MP.

I’m anticipating a loss.

What is "alignment equity"?

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:35 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:22 pm

Well, hopefully that is helpful. Interestingly, Tony is the overwhelming option for scum.

If all of DDL, Hyena, Jack, and Nanook are indeed town, I think we've won? Almost.
Well, if we add Wilgy's onto this, it changes to:

DDL 4-1
Wilgy 2-3
Hyena 5-0
Jack 5-0
juliets 2-3
Nanook 6-0
MP7 3-2
speed 5-1
Tony 1-5

Why are some people at 6 total and some 5 total?

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 pm Fun fact, Tony has alignment equity with Juliets and Wilgy.

Says the guy who gth put it as Tony + MP.

I’m anticipating a loss.
What is "alignment equity"?

Like, teammate compatible for scum/mafia purposes.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:37 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:35 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:22 pm

Well, hopefully that is helpful. Interestingly, Tony is the overwhelming option for scum.

If all of DDL, Hyena, Jack, and Nanook are indeed town, I think we've won? Almost.
Well, if we add Wilgy's onto this, it changes to:

DDL 4-1
Wilgy 2-3
Hyena 5-0
Jack 5-0
juliets 2-3
Nanook 6-0
MP7 3-2
speed 5-1
Tony 1-5
Why are some people at 6 total and some 5 total?

Nanook, speed, and Tony didn't participate (6), the rest of us did (5), which means we had to read ourselves and I didn't count those.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:38 pm**

Can I have an explanation on DDL?

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:39 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 pm Fun fact, Tony has alignment equity with Juliets and Wilgy.

Says the guy who gth put it as Tony + MP.

I’m anticipating a loss.
What is "alignment equity"?
Like, teammate compatible for scum/mafia purposes.

Ok, so then I don't understand why I'm teammate compatible with Tony and Wilgy.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:39 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:39 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 pm Fun fact, Tony has alignment equity with Juliets and Wilgy.

Says the guy who gth put it as Tony + MP.

I’m anticipating a loss.
What is "alignment equity"?
Like, teammate compatible for scum/mafia purposes.
Ok, so then I don't understand why I'm teammate compatible with Tony and Wilgy.

I would also like to hear if Jack has specific reasons for those.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:40 pm**

So the only TRs of Tony are me and wilgy?

Woof

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:40 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 pm Fun fact, Tony has alignment equity with Juliets and Wilgy.

Says the guy who gth put it as Tony + MP.

I’m anticipating a loss.
What is "alignment equity"?

I could see those being the teams.

Juliets/Tony or Wilgy/Tony.

Like you’re both to a degree defending him.

Numbers should be 7 vs 2. So a winning poe is 3 players containing 2 wolves.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:41 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:31 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:58 pm Hyena

Jackofhearts2005
Town

Town
A wild Wilgy appears!

Yee. Got pulled away for a second.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:41 pm**

Winning POE is 2 wolves in 4 players yeah?

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:42 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:37 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:35 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:22 pm

Well, hopefully that is helpful. Interestingly, Tony is the overwhelming option for scum.

If all of DDL, Hyena, Jack, and Nanook are indeed town, I think we've won? Almost.
Well, if we add Wilgy's onto this, it changes to:

DDL 4-1
Wilgy 2-3
Hyena 5-0
Jack 5-0
juliets 2-3
Nanook 6-0
MP7 3-2
speed 5-1
Tony 1-5
Why are some people at 6 total and some 5 total?
Nanook, speed, and Tony didn't participate (6), the rest of us did (5), which means we had to read ourselves and I didn't count those.

I just got back, gimme a sec.
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Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:42 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:40 pm So the only TRs of Tony are me and wilgy?

Woof

Great. Fantastic.

Let’s lynch Tony. Only suspicious players think he could be town.

#mafiachampion

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:43 pm**

Assuming we’re at 7/2

I guess it’s possible we’re at 6/2/1? Syndicate does love their 3p

That would kinda suck

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:43 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:39 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 pm Fun fact, Tony has alignment equity with Juliets and Wilgy.

Says the guy who gth put it as Tony + MP.

I’m anticipating a loss.
What is "alignment equity"?
Like, teammate compatible for scum/mafia purposes.
Ok, so then I don't understand why I'm teammate compatible with Tony and Wilgy.

Yeah I didn't think Juliets had equity with Tony. I'd be surprised if they were w/w.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:44 pm**

I have told Jack he can submit our team vote because I probably won't be here until 11:00 pm and I know there could be last minute changes.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] I did not townread Tony so I don't know where you get that I am defending him.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:44 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:41 pm Winning POE is 2 wolves in 4 players yeah?

DDL, Nanook, Jack, Hyena, Speed, Juliets, Wilgy, MP.

8 players.

Mislynch? 6 players.

Mislynch? 4 players. We lose with 2 wolves.

So it’s 2 wolves in 3. We have one mislynch, assuming 2 wolves and no voting shenanigans.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:45 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:41 pm Winning POE is 2 wolves in 4 players yeah?
DDL, Nanook, Jack, Hyena, Speed, Juliets, Wilgy, MP.

8 players.

Mislynch? 6 players.

Mislynch? 4 players. We lose with 2 wolves.

So it’s 2 wolves in 3. We have one mislynch, assuming 2 wolves and no voting shenanigans.

We have 9 players what’re you on about

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:45 pm**

I just caught up.

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] You should totally sign up for BK mafia, it's got limited posts... and I checked and you had. Awesome.
You should also say why you're scumreading me because I don't actually know and info is always good.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:46 pm**

and poe throw in MP2 if Juliets flips scum and probably Hyena if Nanook flips scum but Wilgy is about to tell me why not Hyena

Linki Jack learn to count
Linki 2 oh

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:46 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:41 pm Winning POE is 2 wolves in 4 players yeah?
DDL, Nanook, Jack, Hyena, Speed, Juliets, Wilgy, MP.

8 players.

Mislynch? 6 players.

Mislynch? 4 players. We lose with 2 wolves.

So it’s 2 wolves in 3. We have one mislynch, assuming 2 wolves and no voting shenanigans.
We have 9 players what’re you on about

Jack doesn't even know Tony exists.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:46 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:41 pm Winning POE is 2 wolves in 4 players yeah?
DDL, Nanook, Jack, Hyena, Speed, Juliets, Wilgy, MP.

8 players.

Mislynch? 6 players.

Mislynch? 4 players. We lose with 2 wolves.

So it’s 2 wolves in 3. We have one mislynch, assuming 2 wolves and no voting shenanigans.

9 players. So yeah, it’s 2 in 4.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:46 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:46 pm and poe throw in MP2 if Juliets flips scum and probably Hyena if Nanook flips scum but Wilgy is about to tell me why not Hyena

Linki Jack learn to count
Linki 2 oh

Haven't enough people told you why not hyena at this point?

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:47 pm**

I feel much better about our odds, now.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:47 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:43 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:39 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 pm Fun fact, Tony has alignment equity with Juliets and Wilgy.

Says the guy who gth put it as Tony + MP.

I’m anticipating a loss.
What is "alignment equity"?
Like, teammate compatible for scum/mafia purposes.
Ok, so then I don't understand why I'm teammate compatible with Tony and Wilgy.
Yeah I didn't think Juliets had equity with Tony. I'd be surprised if they were w/w.

Are we just going to Lynch players with low equity with Juliets until we lose the game? That's seriously not a winning strategy.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:47 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:41 pm Winning POE is 2 wolves in 4 players yeah?
DDL, Nanook, Jack, Hyena, Speed, Juliets, Wilgy, MP.

8 players.

Mislynch? 6 players.

Mislynch? 4 players. We lose with 2 wolves.

So it’s 2 wolves in 3. We have one mislynch, assuming 2 wolves and no voting shenanigans.
We have 9 players what’re you on about
Jack doesn't even know Tony exists.

Scum slip leaving their partner out?

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:47 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 pm Fun fact, Tony has alignment equity with Juliets and Wilgy.

Says the guy who gth put it as Tony + MP.

I’m anticipating a loss.
What is "alignment equity"?
Like, teammate compatible for scum/mafia purposes.

I like this phrase

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:48 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:46 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:46 pm and poe throw in MP2 if Juliets flips scum and probably Hyena if Nanook flips scum but Wilgy is about to tell me why not Hyena

Linki Jack learn to count
Linki 2 oh
Haven't enough people told you why not hyena at this point?

Did... anyone tell me why not? I haven't read carefully since I got back.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:48 pm**

Look, depending on how you count MP, we actually have 11 players.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:48 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:47 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:43 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:39 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 pm Fun fact, Tony has alignment equity with Juliets and Wilgy.

Says the guy who gth put it as Tony + MP.

I’m anticipating a loss.
What is "alignment equity"?
Like, teammate compatible for scum/mafia purposes.
Ok, so then I don't understand why I'm teammate compatible with Tony and Wilgy.
Yeah I didn't think Juliets had equity with Tony. I'd be surprised if they were w/w.
Are we just going to Lynch players with low equity with Juliets until we lose the game? That's seriously not a winning strategy.

???

Me voting you has nothing whatsoever to do with your Juliets equity.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:49 pm**

I know at least myself and speed told you why not hyena.

Somebody else probably did too.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:50 pm**

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:50 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:48 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:46 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:46 pm and poe throw in MP2 if Juliets flips scum and probably Hyena if Nanook flips scum but Wilgy is about to tell me why not Hyena

Linki Jack learn to count
Linki 2 oh
Haven't enough people told you why not hyena at this point?
Did... anyone tell me why not? I haven't read carefully since I got back.

Nanook did.

Basically Hyena campaigned HARD D1 to lynch MR, literally forcing Nanook to self-preserve vote there. That would have killed MR if it werent for the random tie meta. Not only would this be terrible scummate play, it's also not in hyena's meta according to all who know him.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:50 pm**

Updated chart for Wilgy and Tony's GTH reads:

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:51 pm**

And even without Hyena's D1 fire, I'd probably townread him

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:51 pm**

So heads up, I told tsp my role n power and stuff.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:51 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:47 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:43 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:39 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:34 pm Fun fact, Tony has alignment equity with Juliets and Wilgy.

Says the guy who gth put it as Tony + MP.

I’m anticipating a loss.
What is "alignment equity"?
Like, teammate compatible for scum/mafia purposes.
Ok, so then I don't understand why I'm teammate compatible with Tony and Wilgy.
Yeah I didn't think Juliets had equity with Tony. I'd be surprised if they were w/w.
Are we just going to Lynch players with low equity with Juliets until we lose the game? That's seriously not a winning strategy.
???

Me voting you has nothing whatsoever to do with your Juliets equity.

That wasn't my implication but actually I'm curious why you think I have low equity with Juliets.

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:52 pm**

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention], you think DDL is scum. Can you speak to that?

Posted: **Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:53 pm**

Juliets slipped it chat that it’s her and Tony.

Spoiler: show

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