The Syndicate

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm Imagine saying I didn't actually try. The sad thing about this game is that I have been trying.

ehh, sorry. not saying you aren't trying. its just a sense of urgency and paranoia i guess that speed mentioned? well mp7 is super positive but it seems like its just her personaility to be uplifting every game. And so are you! sorry but yeah just seems a bit abrubt to say this is an easy game but I am just bad at scumhunting so i cant speak for everyone. This game has been a (pleasant) train wreck and its a hard game and i am super invested and don't want to screw this up in mylo

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:47 pm Do you not have thoughts on the actual content of my post though?

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:46 pm @Dyslexicon , I asked you yesterday who you scumread between Lavendar and Michelle and you said Lavendar. Could you explain that and do you still think I was distancing michelle??

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:49 pm I'll probably just vote for Michelle today.

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:42 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm
First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

You think they are blatantly pocketing one another, patting each other's back with "oh wow if mp7/dizzy is big brain mafia, i will be so embarrassed"?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:52 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:42 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm
First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

You think they are blatantly pocketing one another, patting each other's back with "oh wow if mp7/dizzy is big brain mafia, i will be so embarrassed"?

I'm not sure but I definitely think that it's possible and that we shouldn't overlook this scenario

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:52 pmI'm not sure but I definitely think that it's possible and that we shouldn't overlook this scenario

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:55 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:52 pmI'm not sure but I definitely think that it's possible and that we shouldn't overlook this scenario

Insert Vixen gif of "No too vague" here. There's no time to "let's not overlook it". Either you believe it or not. I have tons of content in thread, so it really shouldn't be hard to get a read on me.

*player shows up new to the game in MYLO*

*player skims whole thread*

"You know," player says, "this scenario is a possibility to consider, we should look at it."

"I have much content," says Dizzy. "You should have made a decision. Either commit or gtfo."

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:59 pmI'm concerned.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:01 pm In MYLO with no scumlynches, I'm worried when people encourage complacency or try to dismiss possibilities. We have 24 hours. We should, ideally, make the most informed decision possible.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:02 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:01 pm In MYLO with no scumlynches, I'm worried when people encourage complacency or try to dismiss possibilities. We have 24 hours. We should, ideally, make the most informed decision possible.

Inform me, daddy.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:44 pm Thanks for thoughts, Carot.
And yes, I do still read MP town. And if I follow her off a cliff I hope it at least will be the sexy Thelma and Louise version. I feel like I've had a "dumb" reason to read her town, mostly, and that is just the pure excitement from feeling we are both town for ONCE. Then I also felt the same "click" in her brain as I got when I brought up Proto's read on Lav last day phase, and when she said later that she was glad I brought it up. I don't know if this will make sense to you, but I think it will make sense to her (?) I realise that this might not be convincing if someone likes to argue that we are magicians and somehow both scum. I'm town, and I don't know what more I can do this game to show that, and I do believe MP is town as well. So my pool is small, but it only takes one misstep.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:51 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:47 pm Do you not have thoughts on the actual content of my post though?

Some of my most recent post was about the content in your post. Specifically my thoughts on MP, and her wishy-washyness. I didn't reply directly though.

I'm not sure what you mean about my EOD being opportunistic?

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:28 pm So @speedchuck , I really want to hear your thoughts on me because it seems like to me you have urgency today and I think you didn't participate at all for looking at Lavendar and Michelle. You are telling us that you are frustrated how some players are complacent but to me, you were also very complacent yesterday

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:46 pm I just skimmed 1612's ISO. I don't feel like voting there today. The effort in some of those posts makes me think that the many posts about 'sorry I'm not there' were genuine.

I don't have much reason not to vote Michelle.

I tinfoil MP7 over Dizzy, but it's hard to say. MP being inconsistent is pretty town meta for her.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:05 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:51 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:47 pm Do you not have thoughts on the actual content of my post though?

Some of my most recent post was about the content in your post. Specifically my thoughts on MP, and her wishy-washyness. I didn't reply directly though.

I'm not sure what you mean about my EOD being opportunistic?

I feel like your votes were more "following the flow" kind rather than "trying to solve"

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:08 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:28 pm So @speedchuck , I really want to hear your thoughts on me because it seems like to me you have urgency today and I think you didn't participate at all for looking at Lavendar and Michelle. You are telling us that you are frustrated how some players are complacent but to me, you were also very complacent yesterday

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:46 pm I just skimmed 1612's ISO. I don't feel like voting there today. The effort in some of those posts makes me think that the many posts about 'sorry I'm not there' were genuine.

I don't have much reason not to vote Michelle.

I tinfoil MP7 over Dizzy, but it's hard to say. MP being inconsistent is pretty town meta for her.

Okay but you didn't really answer my question. You iso my logs in mylo instead of yesterday? understandable if you don't play tryhard in a non-mylo situation but your reasoning on me as town in the general scope of the game was always there for you to read. Why didn't you want to try to solve lavendar and michelle first, why did you park your vote on me, why didn't you read me town with your reasoning when it existed yesterday?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:09 pm My info is MP is town or I quit. Call it complacency if you want.
I read through Michelle's iso and I didn't like it. Vote on Scirrus and Alison, one on 1612 with no intent or bite and a backtrack of voting somewhere else "cause 1612 showed up now". She talks to MP as she's town and same with me early game, which reads tmi. Volume clear on MP I dislike. She later scum reads 1612 and Lav, but tunnels only Lav. I especially don't like her handling of 1612 which reads teammate all the way to me. Would like opinions on this.

So where I'm at now is that I would want to vote either Michelle or 1612. If the alternative is "but why are you not considering that it could be yourself and MP" then lol. And it's not like I haven't payed attention to MP or evaluated her in my mind all the time, trust me. I just don't see it. You can blame me if I'm wrong, that is entirely fine. Or make a good case.

I think voting Urist is dumb here.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:02 pm Basically, if Carot is unsure and wants to talk about it, I think they're allowed. It worries me that you would shut down that avenue of discussion with a bullcrap reason, Dizzy. You expect Carot to have a surefire read on you and MP after skimming the entire thread once?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:13 pmI think it's very possible Urist is scum and also agree that voting there is dumb. That slot is a self-resolving problem, methinks.

And no, I'm not asking you to consider if you are scum. That's dumb. :P But you coming at someone aggressively for considering the possibility is something for the non-dizzy people to look at.

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:55 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:52 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:42 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm
First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

You think they are blatantly pocketing one another, patting each other's back with "oh wow if mp7/dizzy is big brain mafia, i will be so embarrassed"?

I'm not sure but I definitely think that it's possible and that we shouldn't overlook this scenario

Okay, do you have any thoughts on the vote yesterday? I feel like your reads on Michelle have not really talked about that and I recommend not iso'ing if that's what you did

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:55 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:52 pmI'm not sure but I definitely think that it's possible and that we shouldn't overlook this scenario

Insert Vixen gif of "No too vague" here. There's no time to "let's not overlook it". Either you believe it or not. I have tons of content in thread, so it really shouldn't be hard to get a read on me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:09 pm My info is MP is town or I quit. Call it complacency if you want.
I read through Michelle's iso and I didn't like it. Vote on Scirrus and Alison, one on 1612 with no intent or bite and a backtrack of voting somewhere else "cause 1612 showed up now". She talks to MP as she's town and same with me early game, which reads tmi. Volume clear on MP I dislike. She later scum reads 1612 and Lav, but tunnels only Lav. I especially don't like her handling of 1612 which reads teammate all the way to me. Would like opinions on this.

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:19 pmI will give you my opinion. LOL
Why are you so insistent on my pairing with Michelle? if I was her partner I would not try to bus her in that situation where lavendar has so much sus on his hands that it makes no sense for me to try to hard defend him. it was just my personal read that i thought would be safe to give since I want to contribute and i've been a pretty weak player in the early phases of the game. I am not a new player to mafia so I know when to bus and I would never try to "distance with Michelle" here. If anything that would be really weird and coming out of nowhere. VERY SIMPLY, michelle was just less town than lavendar and I suggested that but apparently i was sussed for defending my wolf mate or distancing with my wolf mate. Explain THAT.

You need to give more of your thoughts on that and let me clear that up. I feel like you don't have actual reasons against me and you are just setting up for tomorrow. You are one of my top town reads but I can't help but feel that you are trying to bus and set me up for tomorrow

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:17 pm Michelle should place the first vote today imo. And she should do it soon, whenever she comes on. I don't want another deadline scramble.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:52 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:49 pm I'll probably just vote for Michelle today.

I read through her iso. Can you tell me what you think of her handling of 1612 this game, in her iso? Same question to @M Plus 7

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:21 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:17 pm Michelle should place the first vote today imo. And she should do it soon, whenever she comes on. I don't want another deadline scramble.

Michelle is probably sleeping now.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:21 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:19 pmI will give you my opinion. LOL
Why are you so insistent on my pairing with Michelle? if I was her partner I would not try to bus her in that situation where lavendar has so much sus on his hands that it makes no sense for me to try to hard defend him. it was just my personal read that i thought would be safe to give since I want to contribute and i've been a pretty weak player in the early phases of the game. I am not a new player to mafia so I know when to bus and I would never try to "distance with Michelle" here. If anything that would be really weird and coming out of nowhere. VERY SIMPLY, michelle was just less town than lavendar and I suggested that but apparently i was sussed for defending my wolf mate or distancing with my wolf mate. Explain THAT.

You need to give more of your thoughts on that and let me clear that up. I feel like you don't have actual reasons against me and you are just setting up for tomorrow. You are one of my top town reads but I can't help but feel that you are trying to bus and set me up for tomorrow

So if we yeet Michelle, there will be a tomorrow? =)

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:19 pmI will give you my opinion. LOL
Why are you so insistent on my pairing with Michelle? if I was her partner I would not try to bus her in that situation where lavendar has so much sus on his hands that it makes no sense for me to try to hard defend him. it was just my personal read that i thought would be safe to give since I want to contribute and i've been a pretty weak player in the early phases of the game. I am not a new player to mafia so I know when to bus and I would never try to "distance with Michelle" here. If anything that would be really weird and coming out of nowhere. VERY SIMPLY, michelle was just less town than lavendar and I suggested that but apparently i was sussed for defending my wolf mate or distancing with my wolf mate. Explain THAT.

You need to give more of your thoughts on that and let me clear that up. I feel like you don't have actual reasons against me and you are just setting up for tomorrow. You are one of my top town reads but I can't help but feel that you are trying to bus and set me up for tomorrow

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:24 pmare you really still taking me out of context??

@Dyslexicon, give me your reads on me ASIDE from michelle right now. You've been avoiding that question for a loooong time. Give me your views on my iso'd logs, my reaction to tutu's reaction test.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:31 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:24 pmare you really still taking me out of context??

@Dyslexicon, give me your reads on me ASIDE from michelle right now. You've been avoiding that question for a loooong time. Give me your views on my iso'd logs, my reaction to tutu's reaction test.

How did I take it out of context? Did you not imply that I was setting you up for next misyeet for a Michelle scum flip? Or what did you mean?

But also, fair. I'll read your iso.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:32 pmWhen he said that "you are bussing and setting me up for the next day" there was an implication that you are scum with Michelle; you're misinterpreting him

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:40 pm Actually, I have to stop myself, and I have to go to bed like right now as I have to get up at some point tomorrow and it's too late already. What sucks is that I'll be pretty busy tomorrow in general, and I don't know how much time I'll have to hang out in thread.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:39 pm alison wanted us to banish michelle so obviously if we lose then this loss is all her fault

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:41 pmit's fine i think the banishment is locked today anyway

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:06 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:36 pm Michelle and speed are incredibly likely wolves now. The third one is the tough one.

This is garbo.

Picking up two of the easier targets left in the game and saying 'Yep, game is all but solved' when there isn't a single scumlynch to analyse for partner interactions is insane.

And yes, I know what I quoted there is not what you said. You can argue semantics. But this is a lazy pass at claiming a gamestate that isn't true. A gamestate that will cause complacency and guarantee that town loses.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:38 am If MP is scum she's been pocketing me all game, and I won't use too strong words, but that will make me feel pretty dejected. Not that she shouldn't. I just don't want this to be the case. And I know that's not a good reason for taking any action, but I still feel MP should not be the yeet now as that would basically be a paranoia yeet from my perspective. This EoD made me feel stronger about her being town, even with the Lav town flip. If she's scum here, then holy fucking shit, we could've just not played the game