The Syndicate

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:03 am @EnderWiggin give me a reason why I should town read Alison

unless NAA is a good wolf Ender is town and Alison is a wolf for this post

i'm kinda mad that my only correct read so far was on a zero poster

and i wouldn't even say it was a real read either

>:( >:(

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:55 pm NAA switching to Made is really freaking me out

This post reads genuine on NAA, I don't see this w/w

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:27 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:03 am @EnderWiggin give me a reason why I should town read Alison

unless NAA is a good wolf Ender is town and Alison is a wolf for this post

I can get behind this.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:30 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:55 pm NAA switching to Made is really freaking me out

This post reads genuine on NAA, I don't see this w/w

sure

If Alison is red then it's a simple solve of Kami/Syn/Seanzie contains all other wolves as Epi isn't w/w with Alison.

The other option is I'm just wrong.

looking at NAA's ISO more I'm inclined to think him interacting with someone heavily is strongly town indicative for them

Gathering posts is annoying but let me find it just cause I never really explain spew reads

actually can I do this p#2605

But I actually feel confident about this process.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:34 am looking at NAA's ISO more I'm inclined to think him interacting with someone heavily is strongly town indicative for them

Gathering posts is annoying but let me find it just cause I never really explain spew reads

actually can I do this p#2605

Unfortunately doesn't have simple post mention.

Something I'm infinitely sad about.

Actually shit, just realised I took out Rondo for no reason.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:33 am If Alison is red then it's a simple solve of Kami/Syn/Seanzie contains all other wolves as Epi isn't w/w with Alison.

Kami/Syn/Seanzie/Rondo

Nothing actually rules out Esooa but I'm 90% sure I'm right on her.

i have been wrong about nearly everything so i'm just gonna sheep y'all on falcon v

4 people is still a winning POE.

Lol ender has to be a wolf

interactions with a flipped town. Really, NAA had no reason to make any of these posts at all. He was just posting what he wanted to.

your conclusions make no sense

I didnt vote on made and was vocal about not wanting to before the vote. I was working with LC to solve and I voted on NAA before we knew he was wolf. Individually each of them can be ignored but together I think make a strong case for me being if not town at least not straight up wolf.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:03 am @EnderWiggin give me a reason why I should town read Alison

what's the purpose of this post?

Is it to seem more towny?

Pretty shitty reason. And the fact it's a naked post (not quoting), with an @, tells me it's something he actively thought of. "Being towny" is pretty default, usually wolves have to think to interact with partners though. So this was to interact with a partner, is what it tells me. And that's either Ender or Alison

I lean Alison immediately because the post is talking about a read on Alison, while the @ is nothing--usually wolves go for a bit higher of a goal than p much nothing

Anyways, gonna quote all Alison/Ender interactions now

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:27 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:03 am @EnderWiggin give me a reason why I should town read Alison

unless NAA is a good wolf Ender is town and Alison is a wolf for this post

Naw ender is a wolf and this post does nothing what so ever to clear him

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:37 am your conclusions make no sense

How so?

Transcend is consensus town.

Falcon/Fingers spewed town Esooa agrees or at least accepts my reasons for saying both.

Obviously I'm not putting myself in POE.

I explained much earlier on why I don't think Epi/Alison is w/w

And I think Esooa is town.

How is none of my conclusions that lead me to my POE making sense?

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:39 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:27 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:03 am @EnderWiggin give me a reason why I should town read Alison

unless NAA is a good wolf Ender is town and Alison is a wolf for this post

Naw ender is a wolf and this post does nothing what so ever to clear him

echo

why does the bold here suck so bad

If you think EPI/Alisonn can't be w/w you would think Syn/Alisonn can't be w/w

So yes your conclusion is fake and makes no sense

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:39 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:37 am your conclusions make no sense

How so?

Transcend is consensus town.

Falcon/Fingers spewed town Esooa agrees or at least accepts my reasons for saying both.

Obviously I'm not putting myself in POE.

I explained much earlier on why I don't think Epi/Alison is w/w

And I think Esooa is town.

How is none of my conclusions that lead me to my POE making sense?

I am still on the fence with tran but thats more gut than anything I have no proof

Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:40 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:39 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:27 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:03 am @EnderWiggin give me a reason why I should town read Alison

unless NAA is a good wolf Ender is town and Alison is a wolf for this post

Naw ender is a wolf and this post does nothing what so ever to clear him

echo

I agree it doesn't clear me, but also why the fuck are you so insistent on me being maybe scum?

Also me and alisonn are obviously not w/w

So you are purposefully keeping EPI out of the POE over syn/me who are more obviously town

[VOTE: ender] aubergine

Dude is not actually solving the game for town what so ever I'm tunneling

Ender probably just outted EPI as his partner

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:43 am Ender probably just outted EPI as his partner

i've been tackling this idea for some time now

but epi's rxn to my fake vig was just omegatowny

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:43 am Ender probably just outted EPI as his partner

You were certain it was me a moment ago. So its Me/Ender/Epi?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:41 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:39 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:37 am your conclusions make no sense

How so?

Transcend is consensus town.

Falcon/Fingers spewed town Esooa agrees or at least accepts my reasons for saying both.

Obviously I'm not putting myself in POE.

I explained much earlier on why I don't think Epi/Alison is w/w

And I think Esooa is town.

How is none of my conclusions that lead me to my POE making sense?

I am still on the fence with tran but thats more gut than anything I have no proof

occam's razor is ur best friend

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:44 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:43 am Ender probably just outted EPI as his partner

You were certain it was me a moment ago. So its Me/Ender/Epi?

should my reads stay static the entire game

that modkill brought a lot of ppl back from the dead

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:56 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:54 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:47 am that seems needlessly insulting axehole

Welcome to Axe.

Insulting but townreads wolves. =P

In fairness, I did say last game that when Nanook and I are T/T, we don't lose... That remains true.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:32 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:32 am @Kami Why are you spending all your time casing me and Transcend and voting HK though?

Kettle, meet pot.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:58 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:57 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:56 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:54 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:47 am that seems needlessly insulting axehole

Welcome to Axe.

Insulting but townreads wolves. =P

In fairness, I did say last game that when Nanook and I are T/T, we don't lose... That remains true.

In fairness, you did.

In fairness, you also hard-defended him as a wolf.

Yeah, I need a sounding board to work with in order to seperate what I think is true, and what I want to be true.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:40 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:40 pm I'm gonna disappear now. I'll be on again later when I've slept

Sweet dreams darling.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:22 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:20 am I have been drawn away from my work to watch this happen.

Worth?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:25 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:24 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:22 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:20 am I have been drawn away from my work to watch this happen.

u r so going down next if this is red...

Why?

He needs to set up his next ML

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:26 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:25 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:22 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:20 am I have been drawn away from my work to watch this happen.

Worth?

We'll see. I'm not sure yet.

Talk to me daddy, I'll make it worth your while

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:37 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:34 am

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:31 am wolves never have a dayvig in this setup so if that actually processes, Transcend is lock town

and also dying tonight

but lock town!!

This is correct pmuch

Aren't roles random between all players? If they are, then one could assume that a day vig cannot exist in this set up at all right?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:39 am Here is your towncore:

Alison
Epi
Syn
Kami
NAA

I'm tempted to invite Enderwiggin because he can be fun, but I dont think he's been towny or freaky.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:43 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:42 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:39 am Here is your towncore:

Alison
Epi
Syn
Kami
NAA

I'm tempted to invite Enderwiggin because he can be fun, but I dont think he's been towny or freaky.

That is a ridiculous list

It only looks ridiculous because you're all being [[redacted]]

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:43 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:42 am In what world are all of those names town together

This one. If we were meant to be happy, the world would be a much less fucked up place.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:51 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:50 am I give enough credit to scum Epi to account for it being a reaction test and try to act like a tilted villa would. Saying "you'll regret shooting me" and repeating his legacy does not clear him.

Epi is cleared and has admin plot armor.

So I still hold onto Ender/Alison >>>>rand containing 1 wolf

If you look at the Ender interactions they're extremely common and not at all useful. Distancing by wolves isn't done with non-interaction after non-interaction, just doesn't happen. The Alison interactions are, the @, a large period of time with no interactions, then a small burst of actions that easily is read as distancing, especially because

1: Alison prompted the interaction. It's something she would want to do too
2: the random burst is more akin to something goal-orientated rather than an underlying mindset (which the underlying mindset of wolves again isn't constant interactions with their partners. There's lots of reasons wolves talk less to eachother than towns idc to explain)

oops, I didn't spoiler it

Anyways, yeah, this spew is very heavily pointing to Alison being a wolf

Which means, the second towny Ender has had a decent amount of pointless fluffy interactions with! yay, now we have a decently reliable amount of data to say "common fluffy interactions means the person is probably town"

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:45 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:44 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:43 am Ender probably just outted EPI as his partner

You were certain it was me a moment ago. So its Me/Ender/Epi?

should my reads stay static the entire game

no but you might entertain the thought you could be wrong instead of going 100% from person to person like its a new fad diet

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:41 am If you think EPI/Alisonn can't be w/w you would think Syn/Alisonn can't be w/w

So yes your conclusion is fake and makes no sense

Epi/Alison have multiple interactions (2225, 2227, 2229, 2233, 2237, 2238, 2242, 2254, 2260, 2263, 2268, 2294, 2298, 2301, 2308, 2318, 2403) where they disagree and argue in genuine interaction.

Syn/Alison comparatively have 2 in the last day phase where both are straight up disagreements and move on. Syn does push a lot so maybe town but I'm not willing to set that in stone.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:47 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:45 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:44 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:43 am Ender probably just outted EPI as his partner

You were certain it was me a moment ago. So its Me/Ender/Epi?

should my reads stay static the entire game

no but you might entertain the thought you could be wrong instead of going 100% from person to person like its a new fad diet

thanks for your contributions

also worth mentioning is Alison is in the town list for no reason, which I think is partnery too. Most the others have reasons in thread for why they were put there but not Alison

why does this chump continually put me on the back burner

[VOTE: rondomcdonalds] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:48 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:41 am If you think EPI/Alisonn can't be w/w you would think Syn/Alisonn can't be w/w

So yes your conclusion is fake and makes no sense

Epi/Alison have multiple interactions (2225, 2227, 2229, 2233, 2237, 2238, 2242, 2254, 2260, 2263, 2268, 2294, 2298, 2301, 2308, 2318, 2403) where they disagree and argue in genuine interaction.

Syn/Alison comparatively have 2 in the last day phase where both are straight up disagreements and move on. Syn does push a lot so maybe town but I'm not willing to set that in stone.

Pretty sure you purposefully left out EPI/Rondo for a reason

Ender/Alisonn/Epi/Rondo and we win game

could also vote alison

(shocking development i know)

alison/rondo have team equity maybe?

Anyways, Kami has 4 non-interactions with NAA early on. I think it's >rand town, but not strongly.

The other thing to talk about is NAA spends a vast majority of his time giving reads pushing Transcend

So, that's either just TMI hard bussing a very deep wolf

Or he's just doing it to talk about something cause it's easy to keep on 1 topic

I don't think he's TMI hard bussing, lol

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:49 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:48 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:41 am If you think EPI/Alisonn can't be w/w you would think Syn/Alisonn can't be w/w

So yes your conclusion is fake and makes no sense

Epi/Alison have multiple interactions (2225, 2227, 2229, 2233, 2237, 2238, 2242, 2254, 2260, 2263, 2268, 2294, 2298, 2301, 2308, 2318, 2403) where they disagree and argue in genuine interaction.

Syn/Alison comparatively have 2 in the last day phase where both are straight up disagreements and move on. Syn does push a lot so maybe town but I'm not willing to set that in stone.

Pretty sure you purposefully left out EPI/Rondo for a reason

Imagine taking a look at all of Alison's reads and deciding that Epi is green if Alison is Red because that bickering would have to be advanced theatre if they were w/w.

Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:49 am why does this chump continually put me on the back burner

[VOTE: rondomcdonalds] aubergine

Because your whole dog roleplay is bad and no fun is allowed

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:50 am Anyways, Kami has 4 non-interactions with NAA early on. I think it's >rand town, but not strongly.

The other thing to talk about is NAA spends a vast majority of his time giving reads pushing Transcend

So, that's either just TMI hard bussing a very deep wolf

Or he's just doing it to talk about something cause it's easy to keep on 1 topic

I don't think he's TMI hard bussing, lol

the reason why i feel the spewdives aren't that helpful is because he did exactly just that

lolcatted all day and pushed thread consensus villager

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:51 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:49 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:48 am

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:41 am If you think EPI/Alisonn can't be w/w you would think Syn/Alisonn can't be w/w

So yes your conclusion is fake and makes no sense

Epi/Alison have multiple interactions (2225, 2227, 2229, 2233, 2237, 2238, 2242, 2254, 2260, 2263, 2268, 2294, 2298, 2301, 2308, 2318, 2403) where they disagree and argue in genuine interaction.

Syn/Alison comparatively have 2 in the last day phase where both are straight up disagreements and move on. Syn does push a lot so maybe town but I'm not willing to set that in stone.

Pretty sure you purposefully left out EPI/Rondo for a reason

Imagine taking a look at all of Alison's reads and deciding that Epi is green if Alison is Red because that bickering would have to be advanced theatre if they were w/w.

Yes because you would have to confirm syn/me are town also and you aren't, which shows your intentions of keeping EPI alive