Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)

[Arcbell]

Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.

I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.

Oh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclear

[MacDougall]

Anyway bring me all of your cases and conjecture and let's figure out who the rapscallion is.

I feel like it'd Arcbell but ya know I'm not gonna tunnel cuz the last mafia seems to want me to die over actual town. Such is the mighty threat that I am.

[MacDougall]

Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.

I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.

Oh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclear

You sleep at f4 not now ya werewolfian.

[MacDougall]

If mafia holters a kill just to help mac they are stupid and deserve to lose.

Abd if we do the same, we are stupid and deserve to lose.

Play to your wincon, not Mac's.

That said, we probably need to sleep once, sooner or later, since even numbers make it more difficult to find mafia. Then again, since there is one confirmed player, it probably doesn't matter either way.

Lucky for you I got my coin so.

[Arcbell]

Anyway bring me all of your cases and conjecture and let's figure out who the rapscallion is.

I feel like it'd Arcbell but ya know I'm not gonna tunnel cuz the last mafia seems to want me to die over actual town. Such is the mighty threat that I am.

Targeting you was pretty optimal

[MacDougall]

The mafia didn't holster a kill they shot me lol.

[Arcbell]

Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.

I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.

Oh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclear

You sleep at f4 not now ya werewolfian.

depends on how standoffs are resolved. on my home site its the side that wasn't last to kill is forced to, which is mafia now, but will be town if we lim now

[MacDougall]

Anyway bring me all of your cases and conjecture and let's figure out who the rapscallion is.

I feel like it'd Arcbell but ya know I'm not gonna tunnel cuz the last mafia seems to want me to die over actual town. Such is the mighty threat that I am.

Targeting you was pretty optimal

I disagree lol.

[MacDougall]

Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.

I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.

Oh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclear

You sleep at f4 not now ya werewolfian.

depends on how standoffs are resolved. on my home site its the side that wasn't last to kill is forced to, which is mafia now, but will be town if we lim now

Sleep at f4 and force mafia to make one final kill is how to play it out.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Anyway bring me all of your cases and conjecture and let's figure out who the rapscallion is.

I feel like it'd Arcbell but ya know I'm not gonna tunnel cuz the last mafia seems to want me to die over actual town. Such is the mighty threat that I am.

Why Arcbell

I have felt weird about him all game. And I really hate this "lets help the 3P" crap do I might vote there.

[Arcbell]

and you sleep now anyways because you want a 4 vs. 1 ML instead of a 5 vs. 1 ML after you die

[Arcbell]

Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.

I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.

Oh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclear

You sleep at f4 not now ya werewolfian.

depends on how standoffs are resolved. on my home site its the side that wasn't last to kill is forced to, which is mafia now, but will be town if we lim now

Sleep at f4 and force mafia to make one final kill is how to play it out.

does sleeping actually force mafia to kill on this site?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

and you sleep now anyways because you want a 4 vs. 1 ML instead of a 5 vs. 1 ML after you die

But if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?

It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).

[MacDougall]

Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.

I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.

Oh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclear

You sleep at f4 not now ya werewolfian.

depends on how standoffs are resolved. on my home site its the side that wasn't last to kill is forced to, which is mafia now, but will be town if we lim now

Sleep at f4 and force mafia to make one final kill is how to play it out.

does sleeping actually force mafia to kill on this site?

Not always but in this game it does. Sleeping is not always an option on this site but given that it is we play out til f4 before we sleep.

Wtf does sleeping today accomplish aside from letting the mafia kill me?

[MacDougall]

and you sleep now anyways because you want a 4 vs. 1 ML instead of a 5 vs. 1 ML after you die

But if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?

It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).

It's 7v1 not 5v1.

This isn't even up for debate lol.

[Arcbell]

and you sleep now anyways because you want a 4 vs. 1 ML instead of a 5 vs. 1 ML after you die

But if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?

It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).

Nah we're at 7v1 right now, with mac. if we lim we go to 5v1 without mac. We could sleep there, but sleeping at the 4 way doesn't work

Happy to keep mac around today if he isn't gonna spend all day tinfoiling me, and if the tie resolves our way after lim

[MacDougall]

Anyway bring me all of your cases and conjecture and let's figure out who the rapscallion is.

I feel like it'd Arcbell but ya know I'm not gonna tunnel cuz the last mafia seems to want me to die over actual town. Such is the mighty threat that I am.

Why Arcbell

I have felt weird about him all game. And I really hate this "lets help the 3P" crap do I might vote there.

Screen flipping town makes me probably just correct about how I read Arc day 1. My reads accuracy in this game has been very high so I've probably sussed the wolf somewhere. Which makes the POE Dizzy/Jack/Arc. Arc is being more appeasy.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

and you sleep now anyways because you want a 4 vs. 1 ML instead of a 5 vs. 1 ML after you die

But if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?

It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).

It's 7v1 not 5v1.

This isn't even up for debate lol.

He means next day phase.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

A clarification: factional NK is mandatory every night.

[MacDougall]

I want to take mizery, porscha and luffy off the table today. Sorry if wrong.

[Arcbell]

A clarification: factional NK is mandatory every night.

Ah cool okay then yea we can keep mac today, sleep tomorrow.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

and you sleep now anyways because you want a 4 vs. 1 ML instead of a 5 vs. 1 ML after you die

But if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?

It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).

Nah we're at 7v1 right now, with mac. if we lim we go to 5v1 without mac. We could sleep there, but sleeping at the 4 way doesn't work

Happy to keep mac around today if he isn't gonna spend all day tinfoiling me, and if the tie resolves our way after lim

Sounds like your view boils down to self-pres.

[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why can't we sleep at f4? Who wrote that?

[Arcbell]

I want to take mizery, porscha and luffy off the table today. Sorry if wrong.

I agree with taking porscha off the table. Lag probably wouldn't have gone to the trouble to elucidate porscha's derpclear as maf in this dire situation, that's my main reason to town read them atm, but their thought process also seemed pretty natural and unagenda'd throughout the game

[Arcbell]

and you sleep now anyways because you want a 4 vs. 1 ML instead of a 5 vs. 1 ML after you die

But if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?

It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).

Nah we're at 7v1 right now, with mac. if we lim we go to 5v1 without mac. We could sleep there, but sleeping at the 4 way doesn't work

Happy to keep mac around today if he isn't gonna spend all day tinfoiling me, and if the tie resolves our way after lim

Sounds like your view boils down to self-pres.

[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine

Nope my priority was making sure we don't end up with an extra un-clear by forfeiting the opportunity to stay ahead of mafia on kills, as u can see if you read my posts at all today

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I would have elucidated that derp clear exactly to get the read you have if I were in Lag's position as a wolf.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

But I'm not Lag so

[Arcbell]

I would have elucidated that derp clear exactly to get the read you have if I were in Lag's position as a wolf.

How would you know I'd make that read?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I would have elucidated that derp clear exactly to get the read you have if I were in Lag's position as a wolf.

How would you know I'd make that read?

I wouldn't but as a wolf I would try to say obvious things like that to make people think I'm being real. I wouldn't specifically expect you to bite it though, but it would be a general strategy.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

and you sleep now anyways because you want a 4 vs. 1 ML instead of a 5 vs. 1 ML after you die

But if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?

It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).

Nah we're at 7v1 right now, with mac. if we lim we go to 5v1 without mac. We could sleep there, but sleeping at the 4 way doesn't work

Happy to keep mac around today if he isn't gonna spend all day tinfoiling me, and if the tie resolves our way after lim

Sounds like your view boils down to self-pres.

[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine

Nope my priority was making sure we don't end up with an extra un-clear by forfeiting the opportunity to stay ahead of mafia on kills, as u can see if you read my posts at all today

Except if that happens we can just sleep at f4.

[Arcbell]

I would have elucidated that derp clear exactly to get the read you have if I were in Lag's position as a wolf.

How would you know I'd make that read?

I wouldn't but as a wolf I would try to say obvious things like that to make people think I'm being real. I wouldn't specifically expect you to bite it though, but it would be a general strategy.

So the thing is the porscha derpclear really was quite good, taking a pretty heavily fos'd towny to basically a clear, and it wasn't obvious either. You're saying as maf you'd point that out, saccing one of your ML-able townies just for the possibility of a second-degree townread?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Or if you mean now, it doesn't matter because Mac isn't an "extra unconfirmed player". He's confirmed.

At the end of the day, I don't think it matters much if we sleep sooner or later. But your focus on helping Mac's wincon and later on sleep shenanigans feels like a bunch of diversion that doesn't take us anywhere.

[Arcbell]

and you sleep now anyways because you want a 4 vs. 1 ML instead of a 5 vs. 1 ML after you die

But if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?

It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).

Nah we're at 7v1 right now, with mac. if we lim we go to 5v1 without mac. We could sleep there, but sleeping at the 4 way doesn't work

Happy to keep mac around today if he isn't gonna spend all day tinfoiling me, and if the tie resolves our way after lim

Sounds like your view boils down to self-pres.

[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine

Nope my priority was making sure we don't end up with an extra un-clear by forfeiting the opportunity to stay ahead of mafia on kills, as u can see if you read my posts at all today

Except if that happens we can just sleep at f4.

Yes I am aware of that now thanks to NANOOK. I didn't know NK is mandatory I come from far away lands. In my realm stalemate resolution works by forcing the team who didn't make the last kill to kill.

[Arcbell]

Btw mac may not actually have the coin so don't sheep him

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I would have elucidated that derp clear exactly to get the read you have if I were in Lag's position as a wolf.

How would you know I'd make that read?

I wouldn't but as a wolf I would try to say obvious things like that to make people think I'm being real. I wouldn't specifically expect you to bite it though, but it would be a general strategy.

So the thing is the porscha derpclear really was quite good, taking a pretty heavily fos'd towny to basically a clear, and it wasn't obvious either. You're saying as maf you'd point that out, saccing one of your ML-able townies just for the possibility of a second-degree townread?

Yes.

Because having ML-able townies around isn't enough if people don't have reasons to townread me. I will get PoE'd eventually. A mafia needs to say things that look pro-town, and sometimes that means actually helping town with little things that don't matter much in the long run.

[Arcbell]

Given that mafia is forced to kill, if he doesn't have the coin, he's in another "lynch town or lose" situation. So his best move there is to pretend he has the coin and is going to lead town.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Real townies don't give a damn if Mac has the coin or not.

[Arcbell]

Real townies don't give a damn if Mac has the coin or not.

I care because if he doesn't have the coin he's going to vote and push his townreads.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Real townies don't give a damn if Mac has the coin or not.

I care because if he doesn't have the coin he's going to vote and push his townreads.

Mac is just one person and he doesn't know this game's solution anymore than you do. If you think he is right, sheep him. If you don't, don't sheep him.

[MacDougall]

Btw mac may not actually have the coin so don't sheep him

Lmao

[MacDougall]

Given that mafia is forced to kill, if he doesn't have the coin, he's in another "lynch town or lose" situation. So his best move there is to pretend he has the coin and is going to lead town.

So you think that if I wanted to kill a town I'd pick you?

[Arcbell]

Given that mafia is forced to kill, if he doesn't have the coin, he's in another "lynch town or lose" situation. So his best move there is to pretend he has the coin and is going to lead town.

So you think that if I wanted to kill a town I'd pick you?

Yeah, probably

[Arcbell]

I'm between mizery and luffy atm

[Arcbell]

luffy's treatment of me trying to chain-clear lag is weird

[Dragon D. Luffy]

luffy's treatment of me trying to chain-clear lag is weird

I just think it's a reach.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Tbh i still read Lag mostly town on tone I just think they seem like someone who would be able to make moves like that to seek "clears". I don't know Lag's wolf range so my paranoia won't go away.

[Mizery]

I'm between dragon and arc so arc being between me and dragon doesn't look so terrible to me except that everyone else considers dragon to be cleared (i still don't know why. I read things. I don't think he's cleared.)

[Arcbell]

Like, I'd believe Lag might make a sacrifice like that as wolf for towncred in a different situation like earlier when more mafia were alive or if Lag could just plan to kill porscha later but porscha was primo lim material for yesterday and today and now she's not so it's just too much -ev. Not saying it clears Lag but it puts me over the edge on feeling confident enough to declare them a strong townread

[Arcbell]

I'm between dragon and arc so arc being between me and dragon doesn't look so terrible to me except that everyone else considers dragon to be cleared (i still don't know why. I read things. I don't think he's cleared.)

Why me?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Like, I'd believe Lag might make a sacrifice like that as wolf for towncred in a different situation like earlier when more mafia were alive or if Lag could just plan to kill porscha later but porscha was primo lim material for yesterday and today and now she's not so it's just too much -ev. Not saying it clears Lag but it puts me over the edge on feeling confident enough to declare them a strong townread

But if Lag doesn't point it out, the chance someone else does is huge.

Catching up I felt like Porscha was sticking out like a sore thumb.