Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Oh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclearMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:07 pm Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.
I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.
You sleep at f4 not now ya werewolfian.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:08 pmOh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclearMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:07 pm Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.
I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.
Lucky for you I got my coin so.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:07 pm If mafia holters a kill just to help mac they are stupid and deserve to lose.
Abd if we do the same, we are stupid and deserve to lose.
Play to your wincon, not Mac's.
That said, we probably need to sleep once, sooner or later, since even numbers make it more difficult to find mafia. Then again, since there is one confirmed player, it probably doesn't matter either way.
Targeting you was pretty optimalMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:08 pm Anyway bring me all of your cases and conjecture and let's figure out who the rapscallion is.
I feel like it'd Arcbell but ya know I'm not gonna tunnel cuz the last mafia seems to want me to die over actual town. Such is the mighty threat that I am.
depends on how standoffs are resolved. on my home site its the side that wasn't last to kill is forced to, which is mafia now, but will be town if we lim nowMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:09 pmYou sleep at f4 not now ya werewolfian.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:08 pmOh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclearMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:07 pm Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.
I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.
I disagree lol.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:10 pmTargeting you was pretty optimalMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:08 pm Anyway bring me all of your cases and conjecture and let's figure out who the rapscallion is.
I feel like it'd Arcbell but ya know I'm not gonna tunnel cuz the last mafia seems to want me to die over actual town. Such is the mighty threat that I am.
Sleep at f4 and force mafia to make one final kill is how to play it out.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:11 pmdepends on how standoffs are resolved. on my home site its the side that wasn't last to kill is forced to, which is mafia now, but will be town if we lim nowMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:09 pmYou sleep at f4 not now ya werewolfian.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:08 pmOh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclearMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:07 pm Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.
I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.
Why ArcbellMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:08 pm Anyway bring me all of your cases and conjecture and let's figure out who the rapscallion is.
I feel like it'd Arcbell but ya know I'm not gonna tunnel cuz the last mafia seems to want me to die over actual town. Such is the mighty threat that I am.
does sleeping actually force mafia to kill on this site?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:12 pmSleep at f4 and force mafia to make one final kill is how to play it out.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:11 pmdepends on how standoffs are resolved. on my home site its the side that wasn't last to kill is forced to, which is mafia now, but will be town if we lim nowMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:09 pmYou sleep at f4 not now ya werewolfian.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:08 pmOh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclearMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:07 pm Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.
I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.
Not always but in this game it does. Sleeping is not always an option on this site but given that it is we play out til f4 before we sleep.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:14 pmdoes sleeping actually force mafia to kill on this site?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:12 pmSleep at f4 and force mafia to make one final kill is how to play it out.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:11 pmdepends on how standoffs are resolved. on my home site its the side that wasn't last to kill is forced to, which is mafia now, but will be town if we lim nowMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:09 pmYou sleep at f4 not now ya werewolfian.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:08 pmOh okay. Well we sleep anyways. If we lim now we end up with 1 extra unclearMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:07 pm Why would you waste a shot on me you scumbag lol.
I did get the coin though. So time for Arcbell to die now.
It's 7v1 not 5v1.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:14 pmBut if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?
It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).
Nah we're at 7v1 right now, with mac. if we lim we go to 5v1 without mac. We could sleep there, but sleeping at the 4 way doesn't workDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:14 pmBut if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?
It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).
Screen flipping town makes me probably just correct about how I read Arc day 1. My reads accuracy in this game has been very high so I've probably sussed the wolf somewhere. Which makes the POE Dizzy/Jack/Arc. Arc is being more appeasy.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:12 pmWhy ArcbellMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:08 pm Anyway bring me all of your cases and conjecture and let's figure out who the rapscallion is.
I feel like it'd Arcbell but ya know I'm not gonna tunnel cuz the last mafia seems to want me to die over actual town. Such is the mighty threat that I am.
I have felt weird about him all game. And I really hate this "lets help the 3P" crap do I might vote there.
He means next day phase.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:17 pmIt's 7v1 not 5v1.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:14 pmBut if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?
It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).
This isn't even up for debate lol.
Ah cool okay then yea we can keep mac today, sleep tomorrow.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:19 pm A clarification: factional NK is mandatory every night.
Sounds like your view boils down to self-pres.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:17 pmNah we're at 7v1 right now, with mac. if we lim we go to 5v1 without mac. We could sleep there, but sleeping at the 4 way doesn't workDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:14 pmBut if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?
It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).
Happy to keep mac around today if he isn't gonna spend all day tinfoiling me, and if the tie resolves our way after lim
I agree with taking porscha off the table. Lag probably wouldn't have gone to the trouble to elucidate porscha's derpclear as maf in this dire situation, that's my main reason to town read them atm, but their thought process also seemed pretty natural and unagenda'd throughout the gameMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:19 pm I want to take mizery, porscha and luffy off the table today. Sorry if wrong.
Nope my priority was making sure we don't end up with an extra un-clear by forfeiting the opportunity to stay ahead of mafia on kills, as u can see if you read my posts at all todayDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:20 pmSounds like your view boils down to self-pres.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:17 pmNah we're at 7v1 right now, with mac. if we lim we go to 5v1 without mac. We could sleep there, but sleeping at the 4 way doesn't workDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:14 pmBut if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?
It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).
Happy to keep mac around today if he isn't gonna spend all day tinfoiling me, and if the tie resolves our way after lim
[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine
How would you know I'd make that read?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:23 pm I would have elucidated that derp clear exactly to get the read you have if I were in Lag's position as a wolf.
I wouldn't but as a wolf I would try to say obvious things like that to make people think I'm being real. I wouldn't specifically expect you to bite it though, but it would be a general strategy.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:24 pmHow would you know I'd make that read?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:23 pm I would have elucidated that derp clear exactly to get the read you have if I were in Lag's position as a wolf.
Except if that happens we can just sleep at f4.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:22 pmNope my priority was making sure we don't end up with an extra un-clear by forfeiting the opportunity to stay ahead of mafia on kills, as u can see if you read my posts at all todayDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:20 pmSounds like your view boils down to self-pres.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:17 pmNah we're at 7v1 right now, with mac. if we lim we go to 5v1 without mac. We could sleep there, but sleeping at the 4 way doesn't workDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:14 pmBut if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?
It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).
Happy to keep mac around today if he isn't gonna spend all day tinfoiling me, and if the tie resolves our way after lim
[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine
So the thing is the porscha derpclear really was quite good, taking a pretty heavily fos'd towny to basically a clear, and it wasn't obvious either. You're saying as maf you'd point that out, saccing one of your ML-able townies just for the possibility of a second-degree townread?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:26 pmI wouldn't but as a wolf I would try to say obvious things like that to make people think I'm being real. I wouldn't specifically expect you to bite it though, but it would be a general strategy.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:24 pmHow would you know I'd make that read?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:23 pm I would have elucidated that derp clear exactly to get the read you have if I were in Lag's position as a wolf.
Yes I am aware of that now thanks to NANOOK. I didn't know NK is mandatory I come from far away lands. In my realm stalemate resolution works by forcing the team who didn't make the last kill to kill.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:27 pmExcept if that happens we can just sleep at f4.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:22 pmNope my priority was making sure we don't end up with an extra un-clear by forfeiting the opportunity to stay ahead of mafia on kills, as u can see if you read my posts at all todayDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:20 pmSounds like your view boils down to self-pres.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:17 pmNah we're at 7v1 right now, with mac. if we lim we go to 5v1 without mac. We could sleep there, but sleeping at the 4 way doesn't workDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:14 pmBut if the remaining guy is confirmed town what difference does it make?
It least with 5v1 we get an extra head to think (Mac's).
Happy to keep mac around today if he isn't gonna spend all day tinfoiling me, and if the tie resolves our way after lim
[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine
Yes.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:28 pmSo the thing is the porscha derpclear really was quite good, taking a pretty heavily fos'd towny to basically a clear, and it wasn't obvious either. You're saying as maf you'd point that out, saccing one of your ML-able townies just for the possibility of a second-degree townread?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:26 pmI wouldn't but as a wolf I would try to say obvious things like that to make people think I'm being real. I wouldn't specifically expect you to bite it though, but it would be a general strategy.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:24 pmHow would you know I'd make that read?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:23 pm I would have elucidated that derp clear exactly to get the read you have if I were in Lag's position as a wolf.
I care because if he doesn't have the coin he's going to vote and push his townreads.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:33 pm Real townies don't give a damn if Mac has the coin or not.
Mac is just one person and he doesn't know this game's solution anymore than you do. If you think he is right, sheep him. If you don't, don't sheep him.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:34 pmI care because if he doesn't have the coin he's going to vote and push his townreads.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:33 pm Real townies don't give a damn if Mac has the coin or not.
Yeah, probablyMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:37 pmSo you think that if I wanted to kill a town I'd pick you?
But if Lag doesn't point it out, the chance someone else does is huge.Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:04 pm Like, I'd believe Lag might make a sacrifice like that as wolf for towncred in a different situation like earlier when more mafia were alive or if Lag could just plan to kill porscha later but porscha was primo lim material for yesterday and today and now she's not so it's just too much -ev. Not saying it clears Lag but it puts me over the edge on feeling confident enough to declare them a strong townread
