The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:48 pm colonialbob - I have no reason to consider him a civilian.

DDL - I find it highly unlikely he is mafia if my premises are correct. Given the lack of drive I'm noticing, I would not rule out an independent role.

DH - Nothing from his posts looks fishy or phony to me. His interactions with others have been swift and made with a seeming disregard for any connections with others he may inadvertently be forging. His struggle regarding LC's story was similar to my own thought process. I would vote for DH only if presented with highly compelling reasons, of which I have seen none as yet.

Dom - I don't believe Dom is LC's teammate, but I believe there are two teams, and I don't have a strong reason to exclude him from the other. Dom remains therefore a secondary suspect. He is spouting poetry though, so I wouldn't be voting for him today even if he was a prime one.

Epignosis - I am eligible to run for President in six months.

nutella - Most of nutella's posts Day 6 and Day 7 have either been about her challenges or empty. I have no reason to consider her a civilian.

Quin - I still haven't fully wrapped my head around the math because every time I start to look at it something else arrests my attention. I am willing to believe speedchuck is convinced Quin is not mafia, and for today that's good enough for me.

speedchuck - The only way he is bad is if the hosts gave us untrue details, and I have no reason to believe they did.

sprityo - Ron Burgundy. The only way he is bad is if the mafia have a broadcaster, and traditionally, broadcasters are civilians. I would appreciate meatier content in the write-ups.

S~V~S- What I said about DH (minus the LC business) applies here. Her first role is neither here nor there for me. If she is bad now, that is scenario that will have to be judged on its own, but not today.

My vote is either going to colonialbob or nutella.

Out of the people on my list I was leaning C Bob as well. Right after I said, "Hey C Bob is quiet" he showed up and replied to me and said nothing else. But the way he reacted to Sprits vote sounded sincere. I see you went with Nutella, what was the decider for you? She is on my 50/50 list.

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:54 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:51 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:37 am That ^ makes me feel good things about Epi as well.

I agree it makes me feel good things about him, too. But I still think he was tired and needed to get some rest.

I don't want to vote for DDL, who should I vote for, Quin?

Somebody you suspect, I would hope.

I was seeking an opinion, not an existential crack, lol. Why did you vote for DDL?

linki @ Chuck I changed my mind, I can't even hit myself over the head enough. I just don't buy it. That mysterious info drop, where did that even come from? I know I won't get anyone to vote for someone who is guaranteed to flip civ, but I think what I think. I think you were LC's teammate. But I have to accept it and decided who else I think is bad.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:48 pm

speedchuck - The only way he is bad is if the hosts gave us untrue details, and I have no reason to believe they did.

Epi, that post with Speedchucks "role" didn't come from the host, it came from a player, you realize that, right? Hosts don't just randomly drop roles in the thread for shiggles, you know. Then again, as I said, I don't expect much traction on this.

But anyhow, I don't want to drop a third vote on Bob, that came out of nowhere, and I am not a fan of it. And Chuck started it

I am going to reread Nutella, especially the last few days, I should have time, she doesn't say much.

Ok I'll just give me raw thoughts. Most of them will be lame. I haven't really put all of my soul into this game so far. I'm sorry, but something about it just doesn't do it for me. Maybe it's the lack of deaths or the low player number but I keep getting bored and having to regain interest again later. maybe the merge will ignite my flame.

Cbob - his first role is anti-town in my book. It's meant to make town waste a day, and it makes the role survive in its first life for at least 6 days. That said, he could be town in the second life. I really suck at reading Bob.

Speedchuck - he is confirmed by the host? Either way that's enough for me not to want to touch him as long as the Day number is in the single digits. Next.

Sprityo - confirmed announcer. It isn't unheard of for the announer to be bad, but it's really rare. I mean, what's the point? An announcer in an open setup can at least use it to self confirm, inclosed setup is a distraction. A weak role like that is more likely found in the town than in mafia. So same thing I said about Speed.

SVS - her first role is mafia as fuck. Problem is that, like I said before, I can feel she has been acting unconfortable about the game since the start. And she never got voted which suggests she either didn't try to bait votes or failed spetacularly at it. So right now I'm leaning on a bastard civ role. Second role I have no read so far.

Nutella - she has been a blank for some time. She really is not doing much. Real life could explain it tho, she really is playing too many games.

Quin - I was reading him as super civ at the start. I even used that as a comparison to decide he was bad in FE, and look at that, it worked. Then the vote thingy happened. He hasn't done much so far, but put him in the double digits along with sprityo and chuck.

Epi - Ugh, you sure about it? Anyway Epi is one of the top scum players I know and nobody can read him. That said so far I've mostly felt good about him. He is really confident here compared to what I saw in FE, but could just mean that he is in the opposite mood to mine. Confirmation bias applies here, because he suspected me for decent reasons, and later defended me for decent reasons, both things that tend to make me feel good about someone.

Dom - Ugh again. I've mostly felt uneasy about him but in a way that could easily be attirubted to playing with someone you barely know. i've played once, maybe twice with Dom in the past and can't remember much. The LC lynch makes him look good.

I could vote for Bob, Nutella, and maaaybe Dom. Ideally I want to vote to save myself, but I'll be on my dancing classes during the last hour of the lynch. So I'll vote in the next few minutes after I process the image game night phase.

Oh yeah I forgot

DH - He really cares about this game. I was feeling good in the first few days. The LC lynch made me feel bad, but it was a punctual thing, that doesn't really warrant a long term suspicion. I could vote for him, but not feeling it that much.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:23 pm Oh yeah I forgot

DH - He really cares about this game. I was feeling good in the first few days. The LC lynch made me feel bad, but it was a punctual thing, that doesn't really warrant a long term suspicion. I could vote for him, but not feeling it that much.

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:47 pm Heading out shortly, but I voted [VOTE: DDL] aubergine.

Really? Without so much as stating one, two, three, or four?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:30 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:47 pm Heading out shortly, but I voted [VOTE: DDL] aubergine.

Really? Without so much as stating one, two, three, or four?

It's not that I don't have an open mind. Long Con's role says "upon death," and the host explicitly said speedchuck is still alive. That, to my mind, contradicts the notion that LC fiddled with speedchuck's role, because speedchuck didn't die.

You die twice in the game tho so he died once but is still alive for number 2?

Ok times up.

Gonna go with [VOTE: nutella] aubergine. I feel worse about her than Bob.

Wait what the fuck

Why am I voting for DDL

He's got like 4 lives and they're all the same role.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:33 pm

Spoiler: show

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:48 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:49 am S~V~S:

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:11 pm
Day 5 has ended. Long Con has been lynched. He was:

96: Michaelangelo, forger (Phenon). You may choose one player, and have them appear as any affiliation that you wish upon death. You may change the identity of that player at any time other than during the last hour of a phase. You are MAFIA and a member of the EVIL EVENS.

It is now night 5. It will last for 24 hours, meaning you have 22 hours to get your PMs in[/center]

Long Con's second role says "upon death."

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:44 am

Speedchuck's role and affiliation has been revealed. He is:

You are TOWN. You will win if all anti-town factions are eliminated.

You are 59: The Moon (Elemental). Each night, you will PM one element to the hosts (Light, Darkness, Gas or Dust) and one player to be targeted for any effect the element may have. If the Sun is in the game, they will also choose one element out of Light, Darkness, Gas or Dust. When you and the Sun are both in the game, your element choices will combine to form one effect. Each combined effect may only be triggered once. The Sun's target will get the benefit of any positive effect, while your target will suffer any negative effect. You may not choose the same element or the same target on consecutive days. You will not be informed of the effects of your elements.

He is still alive. Carry on.

This post indicates that speedchuck is still alive (and this is speedchuck's second role). If this was the work of LC, speedchuck would be dead, no?

I think you are just playing semantics here, now THIS reminds me of the Epi of yore! But as I said, I don't expect this to pick up much traction, tbh. I will vote for him now and then, and gloat my freaking face off when he winds up bad at games end. Or slink into a corner and die of embarrassment if he doesn't. But I think he will. That whole aggressive defense of LC combined with LC's role flip, and the mysterious appearance of his role in the thread? I don't buy it.

In any case, I have to pick a vote. I was thinking of C Bob but not sure why others are voting for him?

It's not that I don't have an open mind. Long Con's role says "upon death," and the host explicitly said speedchuck is still alive. That, to my mind, contradicts the notion that LC fiddled with speedchuck's role, because speedchuck didn't die.

The post the host made in the thread at the direction of a player, you mean?

I am never gonna get any of you to lynch Chuck, much less the merged thread. Hell, if they have more people than us, I will be lynched ASAP once they hear about my role, if they have not already. If they have, first thing they will say is, "Why haven't you lynched SVS??". I am toast ha ha. Again, not sure why I got that role, it was pretty much a death sentence.

So I expect that Chuck will win this game and I won't, and am OK with that. I just want it on the record how I feel about this.

None of this helps me make my mind up about today.

You know what sure

lets [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:51 pm You know what sure

lets [VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Wait what the fuck why are we voting for nutella she's going to blow up like....duh?

IDK who to vote for.

Fuck it I don't recall seeing anything from cbob that screamed civ to me [VOTE: cbob] aubergine

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:51 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:33 pm

Spoiler: show

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:48 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:49 am S~V~S:

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:11 pm
Day 5 has ended. Long Con has been lynched. He was:

96: Michaelangelo, forger (Phenon). You may choose one player, and have them appear as any affiliation that you wish upon death. You may change the identity of that player at any time other than during the last hour of a phase. You are MAFIA and a member of the EVIL EVENS.

It is now night 5. It will last for 24 hours, meaning you have 22 hours to get your PMs in[/center]

Long Con's second role says "upon death."

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:44 am

Speedchuck's role and affiliation has been revealed. He is:

You are TOWN. You will win if all anti-town factions are eliminated.

You are 59: The Moon (Elemental). Each night, you will PM one element to the hosts (Light, Darkness, Gas or Dust) and one player to be targeted for any effect the element may have. If the Sun is in the game, they will also choose one element out of Light, Darkness, Gas or Dust. When you and the Sun are both in the game, your element choices will combine to form one effect. Each combined effect may only be triggered once. The Sun's target will get the benefit of any positive effect, while your target will suffer any negative effect. You may not choose the same element or the same target on consecutive days. You will not be informed of the effects of your elements.

He is still alive. Carry on.

This post indicates that speedchuck is still alive (and this is speedchuck's second role). If this was the work of LC, speedchuck would be dead, no?

I think you are just playing semantics here, now THIS reminds me of the Epi of yore! But as I said, I don't expect this to pick up much traction, tbh. I will vote for him now and then, and gloat my freaking face off when he winds up bad at games end. Or slink into a corner and die of embarrassment if he doesn't. But I think he will. That whole aggressive defense of LC combined with LC's role flip, and the mysterious appearance of his role in the thread? I don't buy it.

In any case, I have to pick a vote. I was thinking of C Bob but not sure why others are voting for him?

It's not that I don't have an open mind. Long Con's role says "upon death," and the host explicitly said speedchuck is still alive. That, to my mind, contradicts the notion that LC fiddled with speedchuck's role, because speedchuck didn't die.

The post the host made in the thread at the direction of a player, you mean?

I am never gonna get any of you to lynch Chuck, much less the merged thread. Hell, if they have more people than us, I will be lynched ASAP once they hear about my role, if they have not already. If they have, first thing they will say is, "Why haven't you lynched SVS??". I am toast ha ha. Again, not sure why I got that role, it was pretty much a death sentence.

So I expect that Chuck will win this game and I won't, and am OK with that. I just want it on the record how I feel about this.

None of this helps me make my mind up about today.

We're on the same team, though, unless this is scum frustration. Why do you fear that you will lose just because you die?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:34 pm You die twice in the game tho so he died once but is still alive for number 2?

LC couldn't affect my alignment upon death because he didn't have that role when I died

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:58 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:34 pm You die twice in the game tho so he died once but is still alive for number 2?

LC couldn't affect my alignment upon death because he didn't have that role when I died

Likely story BUD

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:02 pm linki @ Chuck I changed my mind, I can't even hit myself over the head enough. I just don't buy it. That mysterious info drop, where did that even come from? I know I won't get anyone to vote for someone who is guaranteed to flip civ, but I think what I think. I think you were LC's teammate. But I have to accept it and decided who else I think is bad.

I have no idea whatsoever. If it's any consolation, I'm on my second life, I'm townfirmed, and I expect that scum will kill me for that. If I survive until the end of the game, then you would be right and people should lynch me.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:02 pm
linki @ Chuck I changed my mind, I can't even hit myself over the head enough. I just don't buy it. That mysterious info drop, where did that even come from? I know I won't get anyone to vote for someone who is guaranteed to flip civ, but I think what I think. I think you were LC's teammate. But I have to accept it and decided who else I think is bad.

Why lynch him though? If you are wrong, he's a prime target for a kill, because nobody is lynching him. If you are right, and there are two teams, he's a prime target for a kill.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:02 pm I see you went with Nutella, what was the decider for you?

Just a place to put my vote before I left from work in case a bridge fell on me on the way home.

If nutella is scum, it straight up proves 2 scumteams. (Not that her team thing wouldn't)

Up to this point, it could just be independents. But if nutella is scum, it's 2 scumteams. Otherwise niju never would have been nightkilled.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

I'd also consider DDL very, very town if nutella is scum.

Willing to give cbob another day.
[mention]colonialbob[/mention] To answer your question, I didn't see you doing much with your 'confirmed invincible civ' status, nor do I remember you campaigning for people not to lynch you. I feel like you've been riding on that role for 6 days.

Yeah. We really need to merge, we are running out of steam with the lack of input to some extent. Although I don't much see myself making it much past the merge, especially if INH was a civ in his curing role. If he was he will automatically find me bad.

And if we think Nutella is bad, then she won't blow up becasue her teammates answered her questions and she forwarded the PM to the host lol.

Linki @ Chuck~ even if you all aggressively defend me, if they outnumber us, not having seen my game, they will read that role and I will be lynched. You play the game you are handed, and if I am right, you have played it beautifully (LC, too). If I am wrong, I'm a spaz, which would not much surprise the people who know me

I think if you are bad, no one will lynch you or kill you and you and your team will win. If I am wrong about you, you will have my most abject apologies after the game.

Linki @ Epi, I just can't get past how aggressively he defended LC and tried to lynch the person LC said was bad, then dropped that suspicion as soon as LC was dead.

I don't want to vote for Cbob, I am gonna vote for Nutella with my awesome aubergine.

And Chuck you are so gracious, that is very appreciated.

Yall trippin' nutella's gonna blow tf up

The ONLY point I have for nutella is that her BTSC partner got nightkilled. As SVS has been saying, that's not even close to a townfirm in this game, or even a hint at townieness.

So I'm cool with this.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:07 pm Yall trippin' nutella's gonna blow tf up

Do we wanna do a 3-way tie?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:07 pm Yall trippin' nutella's gonna blow tf up

Do we wanna do a 3-way tie?

Fuck it

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:07 pm Yall trippin' nutella's gonna blow tf up

Do we wanna do a 3-way tie?

You will have one if you move back to C Bob.

Funky like gym socks to lynch Nut when she had to work so hard not to get blown up and might still blow up anyway.

She won't blow up if she's bad.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:11 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:07 pm Yall trippin' nutella's gonna blow tf up

Do we wanna do a 3-way tie?

You will have one if you move back to C Bob.

I mean I will vote to save myself if necessary so

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:16 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:11 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:07 pm Yall trippin' nutella's gonna blow tf up

Do we wanna do a 3-way tie?

You will have one if you move back to C Bob.

I mean I will vote to save myself if necessary so

I would expect nothing less. Who would you vote for it there was a three way tie?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:05 pm colonialbob To answer your question, I didn't see you doing much with your 'confirmed invincible civ' status, nor do I remember you campaigning for people not to lynch you. I feel like you've been riding on that role for 6 days.

How was I supposed to campaign for people not to lynch me when they were just voting for me because they thought I was the inevitable lynch? I said a few times "treat today like it's normal" but without info dumping I'm not sure what else I could've done?

(My activity level has been lower here than some other games but I also don't feel like it's been out of the ordinary, although it has dropped off the last couple of days for reasons I've already given. But that's a legit suspicion at least.)

Hng. Yeah, I'd feel kinda bad lynching Nutella after all of the work today.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:19 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:16 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:11 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:07 pm Yall trippin' nutella's gonna blow tf up

Do we wanna do a 3-way tie?

You will have one if you move back to C Bob.

I mean I will vote to save myself if necessary so

I would expect nothing less. Who would you vote for it there was a three way tie?

DDL

phone posting at work. Wanted to point out that nutellas first role gave positive effects to targets while nijuus gave bad ones (I think). Inclined to think first role was civ and have no reason to suspect her in this one.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:25 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:19 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:16 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:11 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:07 pm Yall trippin' nutella's gonna blow tf up

Do we wanna do a 3-way tie?

You will have one if you move back to C Bob.

I mean I will vote to save myself if necessary so

I would expect nothing less. Who would you vote for it there was a three way tie?

DDL

But you suspect him less than DH, so won't move unless you have to? Or am I reading into what you are saying.

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:29 pm phone posting at work. Wanted to point out that nutellas first role gave positive effects to targets while nijuus gave bad ones (I think). Inclined to think first role was civ and have no reason to suspect her in this one.

So you think the way a role sounds matters?

I feel worse about it now.

[VOTE: cbob] aubergine

If so, why aren't you voting for me?

That was at Quin, I got caught in linki.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:29 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:25 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:19 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:16 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:11 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:07 pm Yall trippin' nutella's gonna blow tf up

Do we wanna do a 3-way tie?

You will have one if you move back to C Bob.

I mean I will vote to save myself if necessary so

I would expect nothing less. Who would you vote for it there was a three way tie?

DDL

But you suspect him less than DH, so won't move unless you have to? Or am I reading into what you are saying.

Correct

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:31 pm That was at Quin, I got caught in linki.

I think to an extent we can read into roles for inspiration. Hosts will obviously want to keep as many roles alignment ambiguous as possible, but if all the mafia have town roles then that's just detrimental to their team.

I'm not voting off roles alone. And your role doesn't scream nad at me. Iy doesn't scream civ either.

also stop talking to me I'm supposed to be working right now

Quin, that was a pretty precise memory for phone. I just looked up the roles and I had to read them twice to be sure that what you said was correct.

And you are not voting for me off of a role that sounds horrendously bad, but you recall that vague nuance from two roles that were revealed days ago, and think it has enough bearing to make a make a difference in whether or not we vote for Nutella?

I dunno about that, Quin.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:43 pm Quin, that was a pretty precise memory for phone. I just looked up the roles and I had to read them twice to be sure that what you said was correct.

And you are not voting for me off of a role that sounds horrendously bad, but you recall that vague nuance from two roles that were revealed days ago, and think it has enough bearing to make a make a difference in whether or not we vote for Nutella?

I dunno about that, Quin.

Will you stop exclusively pursuing townfirms? For reeeeaaaal

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:45 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:43 pm Quin, that was a pretty precise memory for phone. I just looked up the roles and I had to read them twice to be sure that what you said was correct.

And you are not voting for me off of a role that sounds horrendously bad, but you recall that vague nuance from two roles that were revealed days ago, and think it has enough bearing to make a make a difference in whether or not we vote for Nutella?

I dunno about that, Quin.

Will you stop exclusively pursuing townfirms? For reeeeaaaal

Maybe if you stop calling people that in this ridiculous no info set up, I will

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:47 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:45 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:43 pm Quin, that was a pretty precise memory for phone. I just looked up the roles and I had to read them twice to be sure that what you said was correct.

And you are not voting for me off of a role that sounds horrendously bad, but you recall that vague nuance from two roles that were revealed days ago, and think it has enough bearing to make a make a difference in whether or not we vote for Nutella?

I dunno about that, Quin.

Will you stop exclusively pursuing townfirms? For reeeeaaaal

Maybe if you stop calling people that in this ridiculous no info set up, I will

Naw. I like POE. It wins games.

I suspect people based on their posts, not based on things that are impossible to know. To GUESS, to ASSUME, but not to know.

Linki, yes it does, when you KNOW THINGS ha ha.

We know nothing, Chuck Snow.

tfw you have no idea what the fuck to do in this game

an then remember there's a whole other half of the game you've not even played with yet.