First off, thanks to all of you again. This is perhaps now my favorite game that I've hosted of any I have thus far (and it has very stiff competition -- both Avant-Garde installments were great fun), and I look forward to my next venture (likely Fight Club, but we shall see), and hopefully will see many of you there.
FH, to answer your question regarding Bioshock Infinite, it is an incredibly massive undertaking and I'm not sure I plan on submitting it in the next game poll, so it might be quite a while. I really want to spend some serious time on it and I have a few other games that are much higher on the completion % that logically make more sense to host prior to that. That being said, I am prepping for it, and I am super psyched -- I think, like the original, Infinite lends itself perfectly to crafting a unique mafia experience.
I felt terrible for the ADAM Guardians when Epignosis was recruited and they were steamrolled on the infamous Night 8. That was insane; it was truly something else to watch them go from being on the top of the world to being crushed into oblivion. I've never seen a team fall THAT hard before so quickly, especially after the addition of Russtifinko. I also felt terrible for Gleam and A Person, but someone had to die early on, and I suppose it just turned out to be them.
To address my mechanic of the Hypnotize Big Daddy plasmid, only a few of those went around, and I predicted the chances of seeing one of them actually come into play was pretty small -- so I was pleasantly surprised when Epignosis sent in the kill for Nevinera. It was genius, Nevinera had picked up that plasmid, used it right away, and then started drawing attention to himself that night period, and it worked. As such, Epignosis, you became sort of a fluke, as the chances of any one player knowing that many other players' roles was pretty remote. It was interesting to see play out though, and I think you played an excellent game.
That said, the Guardians played such an amazing game, and managed to avoid suspicion for so long. I was actually starting to wonder how much they would dominate the game, but I knew there would be many other factors in play. I actually planned out a few mock Bioshock scenarios before the game started, and there was really so much variation that it was impossible to predict what could even happen this game at nearly any time (until the very end).
From the beginning of the game, there was speculation that the Plasmids would have some adverse effect, and I was pleased to see that even those who were familiar with the game's theme were split nearly 50/50 on whether taking and utilizing them would be beneficial or not. In reality, there were absolutely no side effects to them, but I didn't mind making people think there would be.
As to Devin's win, he definitively deserved it, and I was so glad to see him win his first game. While he played a great game, I have to say, he wins the game's most lucky son of a bitch award, because not only did he survive until the end, but he somehow did not even lose either of his two kill protects. For the first half of the game, he was targeted at night once, drew next to no suspicion for votes, and thereafter used his Target Dummy at the perfect time (ironically, this was the plasmid he won in Day 0, so he was full of all kinds of protection).
Speaking of which.... I forgot to post this earlier:
Day 0 Poll: Detail
Poll options:
- Sign me up! A free Plasmid is a free Plasmid!
- Root canal? Nah, I’ll pass.
- I already have all the Plasmids I need! (host, non-players)
Security Bots, Big Daddies, Little Sisters, and Dr. Suchong could receive a Plasmid, but will not be able to use it.
Player 1: Incinerate! 1 - birdwithteeth11
Player 2: Electro Bolt 1 - thellama73
Player 3: Telekinesis 1 - DharmaHelper
Player 4: Insect Swarm 1 - juliets
Player 5: Enrage - Matahari
Player 6: Target Dummy - DisgruntledPorcupine
Player 7: Security Bullseye - Nevinera
Player 8: Hypnotize Big Daddy - Elohcin
Player 9: Security Bullseye - Flyin' High
Player 10: Target Dummy - Devin the Omniscient
Player 11: Enrage - >SpaghettiEverywhere
Player 12: Insect Swarm 1 - Mongoose
Player 13: Telekinesis 1 - BoatsBoatsBoats
Player 14: Electro Bolt 1 - G.O.B.
Player 15: Incinerate! 1 - Snow Dog
Nevinera wrote:Spacedaisy wrote:Nev, as you coud tell from the end post we did not have our final picture yet. We could not win with you unless we had all four. We planned on voting for Devin in order to see that none of us got ynched and allowed us another day to search. We were down to three people left unchecked.
I totally didn't think I counted as a 'team' for the purposes of winning with you (LMS and all).
I have been running on an increasingly slim chance that I could kill one of you and then the other
once you'd wiped out all the competition. Yes, with my 10% attack. >.<
MP: Are we allowed to donate our wins? Because I still feel like I cheated Hedge out of the game :-\
To expose some details of my very odd game, I got a big-daddy hypnotize plasmid and snatched Epig with it pretty early. It appears that someone else stole him from me shortly before you lynched him (Mata I think?), but having btsc with him gave me access to a crazy amount of information, that suddenly became much less useful when Ryan died. At that point, knowing who the baddies all were (including Devin and Daisy) did me very little good directly, so I started trying to turn information into authority - next time I try to do that I'll be more circumspect and less info-dump-ey of course. Anyway, it apparently worked sufficiently well to keep me off the lynch docket through the end of the game.
No, you deserved every bit of this win, so keep it, though I understand and appreciate your humility. It's okay, you're still relatively new, and with every mafia experience there's something to learn, especially with regards to mafia etiquette (as you pointed out, I never explicitly said anything in the rules about "info dumping", something I'll have to do in the future). While Hedgeowl played an outstanding game and she did unfairly get taken out, sometimes these things happen in mafia, for any variety of reasons, and it would be impossible to go back in time to that very moment and undo your info dumping and re-play the entire set of circumstances.
Your move was ballsy and I'm surprised that it bought you some serious civvie cred. I didn't punish you because you had just barely not crossed that ever-elusive fine line, and given your level of experience (which is ever climbing), and that there really wasn't reason for me to do so. After Night 8, Hedgeowl's chances of winning were really close to 0%. Fortunately, she is a formidable player, so I'm certain she'll be winning a game here any day now.
Live and learn, so no worries.
Hedgeowl wrote:Oh and why were people not using their plasmids huh? Do you know how long it took me to get a vote? I dont think Bullz even had a vote when he died. I finally had two votes when I died. Thanks bea 2.0 and Mongoose (i looted you for ADAM the night were rezzed).
We didnt know what Snows gifts were, but we assumed plasmids. We were sending them later in the game to people we hoped to kill or lynch so they could use the plasmid so Bullz and I could search them for ADAM when dead.
This is a good question. I was surprised myself to not see more people using plasmids earlier on in the game; I definitely thought there would be more of a mad rush to utilize them.
That's exactly how I intended that portion of Snow's role to be played out; I figured you guys would catch on. Especially since Snow was immune to plasmids and the Daddies had solid protection, it would actually have benefited your team to have the maximum amount of plasmids going around, with LMS and other non-Guardians players killing each other off.
(All DF's kills were self defense).
I can't believe I survived so many kill attempts at night only to get lynched without a discussion at the end.
I can't believe my last guess worked!! You disciples were elusive bastards! 
who could ask for more fun than that?
