The Syndicate

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:45 am also, regarding the sean read, i already said i’ve been flip flopping for days on him

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:42 am idc if i die, game should be ez enough

macdougall been voting civillians 4 days in a row

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:06 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:42 am idc if i die, game should be ez enough

macdougall been voting civillians 4 days in a row

Untrue. I had my vote on Seanzie at multiple points.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:08 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:06 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:42 am idc if i die, game should be ez enough

macdougall been voting civillians 4 days in a row

Untrue. I had my vote on Seanzie at multiple points.

At EoD*

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:10 am Ignoring all the solving I've done. Ignoring the Seanzie spew. Just tunneling. Tunneling out of spite. I'm done with playing with you if this is a strategy you intend to continue. It's toxic.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:11 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:10 am Ignoring all the solving I've done. Ignoring the Seanzie spew. Just tunneling. Tunneling out of spite. I'm done with playing with you if this is a strategy you intend to continue. It's toxic.

i’ve never tunneled you in my life lol

you, on the other hand

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:34 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:11 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:10 am Ignoring all the solving I've done. Ignoring the Seanzie spew. Just tunneling. Tunneling out of spite. I'm done with playing with you if this is a strategy you intend to continue. It's toxic.

i’ve never tunneled you in my life lol

you, on the other hand

a very quick skim of your iso shows that was a lie

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:39 am it is a recurring thing within this game

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 11:54 am I have actually just played two other games that have ended in the last couple weeks where sean was also scum. One over on PerC, and another here (Beelzebub Mafia). Sean had me bamboozled in both of those games, in that I eventually had him townread, and it took some convincing from other players to read him otherwise.


Looking at those games, there is one thing I can see that is a pattern, sean seems to like have a set of 2-3 players he suspects where one of them is a teammate of his. In Beelzebub on Day 1, sean took a little heat, and called out esooa/hk for crappy votes, but in the end, let me get yeeted. HK was his teammate, esooa was not. Similarly in the PerC game, sean spent Day 1 having suspicions on Sonny (T) and Erika (M), albeit, he didn't push them and let another townie get yeeted.

Sean won Beelzebub, because hk flipped, giving sean credit to live to endgame. In the PerC game, sean was the first wolf to flip, so he never got the chance to get any credit for it.

I don't know if that pattern will hold as easily in this game, having only one teammate. It's possible this could happen. If there are players sean was suspecting but not pushing, that would be where to look. But I'd be more inclined to believe that sean either protected or ignored his teammate. I think ya'll have come to that conclusion about ted at this point.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 12:03 pm Oh good now the thread is back to normality. What do others think of the ted/mac spat? Kinda get the sense that last wolf is between those two.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:13 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:09 pm BoKnows-he made jokes so he's town
Dana-cat picture is cute so town
Esooa-opened with hello so mafia
falcon45ca-towny exclamation point
Gavial-hasn't scum slipped yet so town
JaggedJimmyJay-sloonei told me he's town
Justplayingitcool-towniest player alive
MacDougall-easy read town
Marmot-designated day 1 mislynch
Moghedien/Tedxtr-rwstfo
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME-confirmed town
Seanzie-scum claimed so town
TonyStarkPrime-always tunnel him so he's mafia to justify my reads

I specifically told you in wolf chat to keep quiet about my D1 Marmot mislunch plan!

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:09 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:06 pm full disclosure : mac is acting different from his other games and it may affect my read somehow, while it may be an NAI thing

push someone with full speed so i feel some type of way about you

Ooo! Ooo! @MacDougall, choose me! Come at me bro!

If you're town and truly think I'm scum, then come at me. So far you've avoided clashing with me much.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 11:57 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 11:54 am I have actually just played two other games that have ended in the last couple weeks where sean was also scum. One over on PerC, and another here (Beelzebub Mafia). Sean had me bamboozled in both of those games, in that I eventually had him townread, and it took some convincing from other players to read him otherwise.


Looking at those games, there is one thing I can see that is a pattern, sean seems to like have a set of 2-3 players he suspects where one of them is a teammate of his. In Beelzebub on Day 1, sean took a little heat, and called out esooa/hk for crappy votes, but in the end, let me get yeeted. HK was his teammate, esooa was not. Similarly in the PerC game, sean spent Day 1 having suspicions on Sonny (T) and Erika (M), albeit, he didn't push them and let another townie get yeeted.

Sean won Beelzebub, because hk flipped, giving sean credit to live to endgame. In the PerC game, sean was the first wolf to flip, so he never got the chance to get any credit for it.

I don't know if that pattern will hold as easily in this game, having only one teammate. It's possible this could happen. If there are players sean was suspecting but not pushing, that would be where to look. But I'd be more inclined to believe that sean either protected or ignored his teammate. I think ya'll have come to that conclusion about ted at this point.

Who would fit that mold d1 iyo

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:46 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:33 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:18 pm hmu, i'll sned yall sum mixtaps if u join my chat

what genre is it

I've decided that I am basing the entirety of my read on Marmot all game solely based on how he answers this question.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:18 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:39 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:37 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:36 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:35 am Is falcon itt rn?

if not, then can somebody explain if they got what was the spelling error that falcon referred to in seanzie’s post about a mislunch or something

I think it was mislunch should be mislynch, but sean said he intentionally spelled it mislunch (based on a cannibal themed mafia game he played once)

Maybe it's the 2:30am factor at work, but this near-verbatim recounting just made me laugh a lot

Glad to hear it. I do AIM to please afterall.

I know this is mountaineous, but Made, please make an exception and give me a vig shot. If this isn't punished right now, this whole game is going to be saturated with the same bad pun happening over and over again.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:20 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:40 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:35 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:31 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:30 pm Oh Sloonei isn't in this game


Hardclaim mason with Sean.

No man, I told you in Mason chat choose someone like Esooa.
Sean is one of the prime suspects remember?

Why do we suspect him? I don't remember.

He’s not loud enough.
Needs to come in and be more face screaming.

Oh okay, I'll work on that.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:25 am So, uh... is everyone targeting Marmot D1?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:31 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:25 am So, uh... is everyone targeting Marmot D1?

As fun as it would be, it probably wouldn't be the best use of the mechanic.

That said, I welcome any glitter directed my way.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:51 pm Marmot and I are talking about eating bugs in our chat, so uhh... yeah.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:16 pm What's your favorite thing about Seanzie, Marmot?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:26 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:16 pm What's your favorite thing about Seanzie, Marmot?

I liked your observation about him and his entrance earlier.

We also share a DM, and he voiced thoughts on the game there that I had already been thinking and agreed with.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 12:44 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 11:57 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 11:54 am I have actually just played two other games that have ended in the last couple weeks where sean was also scum. One over on PerC, and another here (Beelzebub Mafia). Sean had me bamboozled in both of those games, in that I eventually had him townread, and it took some convincing from other players to read him otherwise.


Looking at those games, there is one thing I can see that is a pattern, sean seems to like have a set of 2-3 players he suspects where one of them is a teammate of his. In Beelzebub on Day 1, sean took a little heat, and called out esooa/hk for crappy votes, but in the end, let me get yeeted. HK was his teammate, esooa was not. Similarly in the PerC game, sean spent Day 1 having suspicions on Sonny (T) and Erika (M), albeit, he didn't push them and let another townie get yeeted.

Sean won Beelzebub, because hk flipped, giving sean credit to live to endgame. In the PerC game, sean was the first wolf to flip, so he never got the chance to get any credit for it.

I don't know if that pattern will hold as easily in this game, having only one teammate. It's possible this could happen. If there are players sean was suspecting but not pushing, that would be where to look. But I'd be more inclined to believe that sean either protected or ignored his teammate. I think ya'll have come to that conclusion about ted at this point.

Who would fit that mold d1 iyo

That's two separate ideas I threw out
1) Sean interacted little with his partner
2) Sean shielded/townread his partner

ted - Sean had one shallow interaction with ted before stating a TR of him. There's also posts like this that push Mac away from ted. Fits the theory.
Nanook - Sean took a kind of "shade Nanook for keeping his cards close to his chest", which imo, is an easy way for a wolf to treat town-Nanook. Not a fit.
Mac - Sean had a bit of a defensive approach to Mac's Day 1 suspicions, which to me looked like someone trying to throw a townie off the trail, not distancing. Regardless, doesn't fit the above theory.
falcon - These two had a lot to say to each other. Falcon TR'd sean for his spelling mistake. Sean questioned a few people Day 1 about their TR's of falcon. Falcon himself was never a TR of sean though, so he doesn't fit.
JPIC - no meaningful interaction until Day 3 + sean gave him a TR on Day 1 + they targeted all the same people for BTSC. This is a fit.
TSP - a few interactions, voted TSP on Day 2. Not a fit.


So that leaves ted and JPIC based on the above theory.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 12:50 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 12:44 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 11:57 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 11:54 am I have actually just played two other games that have ended in the last couple weeks where sean was also scum. One over on PerC, and another here (Beelzebub Mafia). Sean had me bamboozled in both of those games, in that I eventually had him townread, and it took some convincing from other players to read him otherwise.


Looking at those games, there is one thing I can see that is a pattern, sean seems to like have a set of 2-3 players he suspects where one of them is a teammate of his. In Beelzebub on Day 1, sean took a little heat, and called out esooa/hk for crappy votes, but in the end, let me get yeeted. HK was his teammate, esooa was not. Similarly in the PerC game, sean spent Day 1 having suspicions on Sonny (T) and Erika (M), albeit, he didn't push them and let another townie get yeeted.

Sean won Beelzebub, because hk flipped, giving sean credit to live to endgame. In the PerC game, sean was the first wolf to flip, so he never got the chance to get any credit for it.

I don't know if that pattern will hold as easily in this game, having only one teammate. It's possible this could happen. If there are players sean was suspecting but not pushing, that would be where to look. But I'd be more inclined to believe that sean either protected or ignored his teammate. I think ya'll have come to that conclusion about ted at this point.

Who would fit that mold d1 iyo

That's two separate ideas I threw out
1) Sean interacted little with his partner
2) Sean shielded/townread his partner

ted - Sean had one shallow interaction with ted before stating a TR of him. There's also posts like this that push Mac away from ted. Fits the theory.
Nanook - Sean took a kind of "shade Nanook for keeping his cards close to his chest", which imo, is an easy way for a wolf to treat town-Nanook. Not a fit.
Mac - Sean had a bit of a defensive approach to Mac's Day 1 suspicions, which to me looked like someone trying to throw a townie off the trail, not distancing. Regardless, doesn't fit the above theory.
falcon - These two had a lot to say to each other. Falcon TR'd sean for his spelling mistake. Sean questioned a few people Day 1 about their TR's of falcon. Falcon himself was never a TR of sean though, so he doesn't fit.
JPIC - no meaningful interaction until Day 3 + sean gave him a TR on Day 1 + they targeted all the same people for BTSC. This is a fit.
TSP - a few interactions, voted TSP on Day 2. Not a fit.


So that leaves ted and JPIC based on the above theory.

ffs. look at when I dropped my vote from ted to TSP sean. Ted was on four votes to sean's two. I tied the wagons and would have bussed my partner pointlessly when it would have been heading to a misyeet if I was a wolf

Do you seriously believe we would target the exact same people three days on the spin?

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 12:51 pm I didn't say that I think you're his teammate, JPIC. I said that you fit the above theory that I posited about how sean would treat his teammate early on in the game.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 12:44 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 11:57 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 11:54 am I have actually just played two other games that have ended in the last couple weeks where sean was also scum. One over on PerC, and another here (Beelzebub Mafia). Sean had me bamboozled in both of those games, in that I eventually had him townread, and it took some convincing from other players to read him otherwise.


Looking at those games, there is one thing I can see that is a pattern, sean seems to like have a set of 2-3 players he suspects where one of them is a teammate of his. In Beelzebub on Day 1, sean took a little heat, and called out esooa/hk for crappy votes, but in the end, let me get yeeted. HK was his teammate, esooa was not. Similarly in the PerC game, sean spent Day 1 having suspicions on Sonny (T) and Erika (M), albeit, he didn't push them and let another townie get yeeted.

Sean won Beelzebub, because hk flipped, giving sean credit to live to endgame. In the PerC game, sean was the first wolf to flip, so he never got the chance to get any credit for it.

I don't know if that pattern will hold as easily in this game, having only one teammate. It's possible this could happen. If there are players sean was suspecting but not pushing, that would be where to look. But I'd be more inclined to believe that sean either protected or ignored his teammate. I think ya'll have come to that conclusion about ted at this point.

Who would fit that mold d1 iyo

That's two separate ideas I threw out
1) Sean interacted little with his partner
2) Sean shielded/townread his partner

ted - Sean had one shallow interaction with ted before stating a TR of him. There's also posts like this that push Mac away from ted. Fits the theory.
Nanook - Sean took a kind of "shade Nanook for keeping his cards close to his chest", which imo, is an easy way for a wolf to treat town-Nanook. Not a fit.
Mac - Sean had a bit of a defensive approach to Mac's Day 1 suspicions, which to me looked like someone trying to throw a townie off the trail, not distancing. Regardless, doesn't fit the above theory.
falcon - These two had a lot to say to each other. Falcon TR'd sean for his spelling mistake. Sean questioned a few people Day 1 about their TR's of falcon. Falcon himself was never a TR of sean though, so he doesn't fit.
JPIC - no meaningful interaction until Day 3 + sean gave him a TR on Day 1 + they targeted all the same people for BTSC. This is a fit.
TSP - a few interactions, voted TSP on Day 2. Not a fit.


So that leaves ted and JPIC based on the above theory.

Looking at those games, there is one thing I can see that is a pattern, sean seems to like have a set of 2-3 players he suspects where one of them is a teammate of his. In Beelzebub on Day 1, sean took a little heat, and called out esooa/hk for crappy votes, but in the end, let me get yeeted. HK was his teammate, esooa was not. Similarly in the PerC game, sean spent Day 1 having suspicions on Sonny (T) and Erika (M), albeit, he didn't push them and let another townie get yeeted.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:01 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Sean's explicit scumreads on Day 1 consist of JJJ, you, myself, and Mac. JJJ and myself were early scumreads that kinda fell off. Mac and you were scumreads that came up later in the day.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:37 pm so are you saying mac fits that pattern?

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:53 pm I'm 100% okay with Seanzie votes right now. Read his ISO. One thing to note is he's not W/W with Falcon because he asked for Falcons discord tag in thread because he couldn't get in contact with him for BTSC

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:37 pm so are you saying mac fits that pattern?