The Syndicate

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:57 am

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:42 am Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

Mac spewed me town when he tried to push me for my role in the storm chat

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:33 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:26 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:03 am So really, yesterday is on you guys, not me.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

You are either scum or a game thrower, i dont want you in this game.

Im parking on you, see you guys the next day.

How is it game throwing to force town to vote on your read? It was incorrect and yeah, people don't like fake checks, but it isn't game throwing.

I fucked up, but yeah, don't tell me you thought Dana was doing anything other than lolcating... That's what everyone except for the scum team would have perceived because she wasn't being towny. So no I don't see how that flipping town makes me an automatic target.

I made a play, it didn't work. Get over it and let's get scum today.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:02 am
TBH, if you guys just were better at forming wagons, I wouldn't have had to claim a red check. Both Sig and Dana could have defended themselves and didn't Ender defended himself, and I didn't pursue him further once I found him to be town. It's just my style to push with unrelenting pressure until / unless the person shows themselves to be OBVIOUS town, if they don't, then yeet them and shrug.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:11 pm Wow we got a Leafs fan playing @falcon45ca what is this?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:09 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:02 am
TBH, if you guys just were better at forming wagons, I wouldn't have had to claim a red check. Both Sig and Dana could have defended themselves and didn't Ender defended himself, and I didn't pursue him further once I found him to be town. It's just my style to push with unrelenting pressure until / unless the person shows themselves to be OBVIOUS town, if they don't, then yeet them and shrug.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:23 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:11 pm Wow we got a Leafs fan playing @falcon45ca what is this?

BK!


I'm as shocked as you are, but this is the world we live in now.





PS, are you scum?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:00 pm How is Axe still alive?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:00 pm How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:05 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:00 pm How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:06 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:05 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:00 pm How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:07 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:06 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:05 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:00 pm How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:07 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:06 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:05 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:00 pm How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:10 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:23 am Axe can get a free day, he’s weird but likely just town. The story is so bad that it cannot come from a wolf lol

Vote: Grogu
Obv wolf

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:07 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:06 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:05 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:00 pm How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:31 am Grogu's ISO is pretty villagery in the way they're off in their own world with sunshine and rainbows.

I am possibly getting pocketed by this, but I really do think it's towny.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:42 am Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:57 am

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:42 am Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

Mac spewed me town when he tried to push me for my role in the storm chat

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:24 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:07 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:06 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:05 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

No, don't even try "you'd be just as scummy as I am if you kill me". That is BS. You faked a red and didn't rescind. There is no reason for a townie to do that. If you are town here, your hero-check is gamethrowing and town deserves to lose, and you would deserve all the credit for that loss. More likely though you're just scum. Considering if we yeet you today, the deaths will be something like 7 town deaths to 2 scum deaths, I'd say y'all can afford to trade 1-1 here, especially if you have a low-utility role and it keeps higher utility roles alive.

This man is scum, kill them.

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:57 am

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:42 am Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

Mac spewed me town when he tried to push me for my role in the storm chat

This happened?

Felicis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:04 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:57 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:56 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:19 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:52 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:50 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:48 pm free town read to anyone who got a bison last night

Why do you send bisons? Can you explain plz

I send them b/c I care
It's like fruit vendor but I'm not target restricted (can send to the same person repeatedly if I want to) and it's a picture of appa (of my choosing, with no game text) instead of fruit

That's pretty slick. Do you choose who it goes to, or just random town?

I get to choose where it goes

Well, then shouldn't you know who got the bison?

Huh good point. Unless HK is trying to see if anyone fakes receiving a bison by asking who got it? Iunno

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm But I don't get why Axe is blaming us for it like an axehole about it.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:24 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:07 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:06 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:05 pm

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

No, don't even try "you'd be just as scummy as I am if you kill me". That is BS. You faked a red and didn't rescind. There is no reason for a townie to do that. If you are town here, your hero-check is gamethrowing and town deserves to lose, and you would deserve all the credit for that loss. More likely though you're just scum. Considering if we yeet you today, the deaths will be something like 7 town deaths to 2 scum deaths, I'd say y'all can afford to trade 1-1 here, especially if you have a low-utility role and it keeps higher utility roles alive.

This man is scum, kill them.

Sounds like policy kill, if you do that, you deserve to lose.

Fake red is a hero-play, yes. But by definition I think that makes it not gamethrowing, it's just that I took it upon myself to have sole input over the kill which is actually +EV because I'm town. Now given that (neither of us?) actually know how many mafia are in the game, to say it's gamethrowing or to even try to make a guess at the accuracy required to shoot correctly yesterday is impossible.

So yeah, unvote and try to gather yourself so that you can actually play the game.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:50 am Mac wasn't in the storm chat.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:31 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm But I don't get why Axe is blaming us for it like an axehole about it.

It was just in the spirit of being an entitled prick. But yeah, I view the red check yesterday as a missed vig shot. I'm not upset about it, but it's definitely not your guys fault. I understand why people would be upset, but to be honest, I view mafia as a single-player game.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:31 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:24 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:07 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:06 pm

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

No, don't even try "you'd be just as scummy as I am if you kill me". That is BS. You faked a red and didn't rescind. There is no reason for a townie to do that. If you are town here, your hero-check is gamethrowing and town deserves to lose, and you would deserve all the credit for that loss. More likely though you're just scum. Considering if we yeet you today, the deaths will be something like 7 town deaths to 2 scum deaths, I'd say y'all can afford to trade 1-1 here, especially if you have a low-utility role and it keeps higher utility roles alive.

This man is scum, kill them.

Sounds like policy kill, if you do that, you deserve to lose.

Fake red is a hero-play, yes. But by definition I think that makes it not gamethrowing, it's just that I took it upon myself to have sole input over the kill which is actually +EV because I'm town. Now given that (neither of us?) actually know how many mafia are in the game, to say it's gamethrowing or to even try to make a guess at the accuracy required to shoot correctly yesterday is impossible.

So yeah, unvote and try to gather yourself so that you can actually play the game.

No, this is garbage. Hero-play loses games plain and simple. If you are town, what you did is massively -EV. The WHOLE point of the game of mafia is that COLLECTIVELY we can root out scum. The WHOLE point of the damn game is it is an example of the village guessing the weight of the bull.

YOU taking it on yourself to decide the elim is majorly -EV for town. You should be killed. It isn't policy, it is that you decided to go 1-1, and now you're trying to go 1-0, and that is BS. The only way it is wrong to chop you here is if you're just a crap player.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:10 pmHere we are.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:33 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:31 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:24 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:07 pm

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

No, don't even try "you'd be just as scummy as I am if you kill me". That is BS. You faked a red and didn't rescind. There is no reason for a townie to do that. If you are town here, your hero-check is gamethrowing and town deserves to lose, and you would deserve all the credit for that loss. More likely though you're just scum. Considering if we yeet you today, the deaths will be something like 7 town deaths to 2 scum deaths, I'd say y'all can afford to trade 1-1 here, especially if you have a low-utility role and it keeps higher utility roles alive.

This man is scum, kill them.

Sounds like policy kill, if you do that, you deserve to lose.

Fake red is a hero-play, yes. But by definition I think that makes it not gamethrowing, it's just that I took it upon myself to have sole input over the kill which is actually +EV because I'm town. Now given that (neither of us?) actually know how many mafia are in the game, to say it's gamethrowing or to even try to make a guess at the accuracy required to shoot correctly yesterday is impossible.

So yeah, unvote and try to gather yourself so that you can actually play the game.

No, this is garbage. Hero-play loses games plain and simple. If you are town, what you did is massively -EV. The WHOLE point of the game of mafia is that COLLECTIVELY we can root out scum. The WHOLE point of the damn game is it is an example of the village guessing the weight of the bull.

YOU taking it on yourself to decide the elim is majorly -EV for town. You should be killed. It isn't policy, it is that you decided to go 1-1, and now you're trying to go 1-0, and that is BS. The only way it is wrong to chop you here is if you're just a crap player.

No, it's your reaction that's -EV.

You might say that your reaction is inevitable, but it isn't... You don't have to be this way. Martin brings up a good point though, Dana let herself die, so you probably shouldn't even be sad about it at all.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:32 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:31 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm But I don't get why Axe is blaming us for it like an axehole about it.

It was just in the spirit of being an entitled prick. But yeah, I view the red check yesterday as a missed vig shot. I'm not upset about it, but it's definitely not your guys fault. I understand why people would be upset, but to be honest, I view mafia as a single-player game.

No! It is not a missed vig shot. Vig shots don't take away the TK. If you're town, you REALLY need to rethink your play.

Kill this man.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:34 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:33 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:31 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:24 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:12 pm

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

No, don't even try "you'd be just as scummy as I am if you kill me". That is BS. You faked a red and didn't rescind. There is no reason for a townie to do that. If you are town here, your hero-check is gamethrowing and town deserves to lose, and you would deserve all the credit for that loss. More likely though you're just scum. Considering if we yeet you today, the deaths will be something like 7 town deaths to 2 scum deaths, I'd say y'all can afford to trade 1-1 here, especially if you have a low-utility role and it keeps higher utility roles alive.

This man is scum, kill them.

Sounds like policy kill, if you do that, you deserve to lose.

Fake red is a hero-play, yes. But by definition I think that makes it not gamethrowing, it's just that I took it upon myself to have sole input over the kill which is actually +EV because I'm town. Now given that (neither of us?) actually know how many mafia are in the game, to say it's gamethrowing or to even try to make a guess at the accuracy required to shoot correctly yesterday is impossible.

So yeah, unvote and try to gather yourself so that you can actually play the game.

No, this is garbage. Hero-play loses games plain and simple. If you are town, what you did is massively -EV. The WHOLE point of the game of mafia is that COLLECTIVELY we can root out scum. The WHOLE point of the damn game is it is an example of the village guessing the weight of the bull.

YOU taking it on yourself to decide the elim is majorly -EV for town. You should be killed. It isn't policy, it is that you decided to go 1-1, and now you're trying to go 1-0, and that is BS. The only way it is wrong to chop you here is if you're just a crap player.

No, it's your reaction that's -EV.

You might say that your reaction is inevitable, but it isn't... You don't have to be this way. Martin brings up a good point though, Dana let herself die, so you probably shouldn't even be sad about it at all.

Wtf? you kill a townie and then try to blame them and everyone other than you?

Sorry, I'm done. This shit just happened to me in another game, and I'm not going to sit here and let people do this shit. It is garbage.

Kill this man, I'm out.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:07 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:06 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:05 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:00 pm How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:26 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:31 am Grogu's ISO is pretty villagery in the way they're off in their own world with sunshine and rainbows.

I am possibly getting pocketed by this, but I really do think it's towny.

Zero worries from dababy.
I am town. Thanks for the observation but the rainbows have faded after the unfortunate flip of Dana. I thought the game was going to be very easy after the red check.

Talk to me about axe. I think he’s town here and I actually do not like guillo reaction as much.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:57 am

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:42 am Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

Mac spewed me town when he tried to push me for my role in the storm chat

This happened?

Mac was not in the storm chat

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:38 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:57 am

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:42 am Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

Mac spewed me town when he tried to push me for my role in the storm chat

This happened?

Mac was not in the storm chat

Why would falcon lied about this? Weird

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:31 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:28 pm But I don't get why Axe is blaming us for it like an axehole about it.

It was just in the spirit of being an entitled prick. But yeah, I view the red check yesterday as a missed vig shot. I'm not upset about it, but it's definitely not your guys fault. I understand why people would be upset, but to be honest, I view mafia as a single-player game.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:37 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:26 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:31 am Grogu's ISO is pretty villagery in the way they're off in their own world with sunshine and rainbows.

I am possibly getting pocketed by this, but I really do think it's towny.

Zero worries from dababy.
I am town. Thanks for the observation but the rainbows have faded after the unfortunate flip of Dana. I thought the game was going to be very easy after the red check.

Talk to me about axe. I think he’s town here and I actually do not like guillo reaction as much.