Re: Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [DAY 3]
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:20 pm
They really need to nerf colonization
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
They really need to nerf colonization
Again, Guillo voted Chelsea as his last post of the day and peaced out about 4 minutes after Manny indicated he voted for Guillo, and Chelsea in the poll voted Guillo after Manny, so by the time Chelsea and/or Raskol voted Guillo, Guillo was already in anti-spew like he had been caught and stopped responding to the thread
Wonder if this is just wolf-indicativeLe petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:00 pm @LordQuas You don't need too. I am dead tmr (beside I was a busy town this week end, that is all)
don't like this considering this was well after Guillo's wagon was gaining consistent traction
oops, apologies
ty, the snow one in particular was throwing meInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:34 pmoops, apologies
The ones who you'll see referred to by other names are:
risiinq- (Snow),
Le petit poussin (Raskol),
me depending on how you look at it (Inawordyes = Iawy)
DaughterOfOmega (DoOm)
I feel like as the person that started the CFD on guillotina I deserve at least a spot in the "not wolf" category
Well that doesn't quite make sense given the ordering of votes unless Manny changed his from and then back to Guillo at some point, or he voted Guillo a lot later than he stated in-thread
The poll isn't in order btw.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:42 pmWell that doesn't quite make sense given the ordering of votes unless Manny changed his from and then back to Guillo at some point, or he voted Guillo a lot later than he stated in-thread
hmm
Push me anyways tbh, I'm kinda on a hyper kick posting all over the thread instead of working on assignments that are due tomorrow IRL and I haven't even started yet, so if I am mafia then I kinda have a lot of control over the gamestate rn since I'm posting a lot and for the most part of the only one posting.LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:42 pm also i was gonna push for IAWY but then he came in and started posting exactly what I had be worried about overnight with Chelsea so I feel less keen about that
still not sure Chelsea is a wolf mind you, but her weirdness with guillo + her not dying makes me nervous. Wasn't planning on posting about it until she showed up though
the main thing that's pushing me towards believing it is it would be odd for town to have 0 kp in this setupInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:40 pm Is there any particular reason that Daughter's role is town moreso than mafia/3P?
I just realized that, which completely blows the majority of my Chelsea thoughts out of the waterSabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:43 pmThe poll isn't in order btw.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:42 pmWell that doesn't quite make sense given the ordering of votes unless Manny changed his from and then back to Guillo at some point, or he voted Guillo a lot later than he stated in-thread
hmm
I don't disagree, but throwing town a low-poster killer, when Mafia are more likely to not low-post, seems almost destined to end up killing a lot of lhf townies rather than ever catch legitimate mafiaLordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:44 pmthe main thing that's pushing me towards believing it is it would be odd for town to have 0 kp in this setupInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:40 pm Is there any particular reason that Daughter's role is town moreso than mafia/3P?
ngl starting to hate this gameSabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:43 pmThe poll isn't in order btw.Inawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:42 pmWell that doesn't quite make sense given the ordering of votes unless Manny changed his from and then back to Guillo at some point, or he voted Guillo a lot later than he stated in-thread
hmm
problem was I didn't have many reasons, I just thought you d1 felt very odd and didn't like the pushes you were makingInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:44 pmPush me anyways tbh, I'm kinda on a hyper kick posting all over the thread instead of working on assignments that are due tomorrow IRL and I haven't even started yet, so if I am mafia then I kinda have a lot of control over the gamestate rn since I'm posting a lot and for the most part of the only one posting.LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:42 pm also i was gonna push for IAWY but then he came in and started posting exactly what I had be worried about overnight with Chelsea so I feel less keen about that
still not sure Chelsea is a wolf mind you, but her weirdness with guillo + her not dying makes me nervous. Wasn't planning on posting about it until she showed up though
Us aligning on the topic of Chelsea doesn't invalidate all the other reasons it sounds like you have for suspecting me enough to advocate for a wagon push
sbpcbwweInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:45 pmI don't disagree, but throwing town a low-poster killer, when Mafia are more likely to not low-post, seems almost destined to end up killing a lot of lhf townies rather than ever catch legitimate mafiaLordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:44 pmthe main thing that's pushing me towards believing it is it would be odd for town to have 0 kp in this setupInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:40 pm Is there any particular reason that Daughter's role is town moreso than mafia/3P?
day commuters are funny, but yeah if you've ever watched Survivor, specifically S40, it's the Safety Without Power twist - leave the thread, cannot vote but also cannot be voted for. In a game where your vote and your voice are you biggest assets outside of any PR abilities you have, it's a pure self-pres move and I don't see why a day commuter would be more likely town when town really have nothing to hide and the only way a day commuter benefits Le Petit is if they were at risk of dying - but commuting means not being able to give content and reads as a townie, which seems counter-intuitiveLordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:46 pmproblem was I didn't have many reasons, I just thought you d1 felt very odd and didn't like the pushes you were makingInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:44 pmPush me anyways tbh, I'm kinda on a hyper kick posting all over the thread instead of working on assignments that are due tomorrow IRL and I haven't even started yet, so if I am mafia then I kinda have a lot of control over the gamestate rn since I'm posting a lot and for the most part of the only one posting.LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:42 pm also i was gonna push for IAWY but then he came in and started posting exactly what I had be worried about overnight with Chelsea so I feel less keen about that
still not sure Chelsea is a wolf mind you, but her weirdness with guillo + her not dying makes me nervous. Wasn't planning on posting about it until she showed up though
Us aligning on the topic of Chelsea doesn't invalidate all the other reasons it sounds like you have for suspecting me enough to advocate for a wagon push
Le poutit was actually my top wolf but I took the start of day post to mean they can't be voted for. Which honestly seems unusual for a wolf role so I might be wrong there too
This is what DeeZee (aka Dr. Zeus, another nameism if you come across it) posted earlier, which is the order that I was going off ofDeeZees wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:52 pm im going sleep, I think I outted bad mech w/e dont think it helps much
[8] Guillotine: Schiavetto, Sabiplz, Valentine, LordQuas, Manny, Chelsea, Le petit poussin, nutella
[3] Cape90: risiinq-, Creature, WindwardAway
[3] Creature: Mungbean, DeeZees, falcon45ca
[2] Valentine: IBA, ColinIsCool
[1] Chelsea: Guillotine
[1] DeeZees: DaughterOfOmega
[1] Le petit poussin: TheFloyd73
[1] LordQuas: Inawordyes
[1] Mungbean: Cape90
agree re busters, they did not try to save guillo at all.
Potential other lunches were Creature/Cape. Creature I still think could be wolf, and Cape's voters have two town imo.
Oh worth saying here, if we think the bus plan was in action do we think he ditches a vote with Chelsea like that who then votes him? Kinda wanna clear her for that
is that a keyboard mash or an acronym I don't understand?LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:47 pmsbpcbwweInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:45 pmI don't disagree, but throwing town a low-poster killer, when Mafia are more likely to not low-post, seems almost destined to end up killing a lot of lhf townies rather than ever catch legitimate mafiaLordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:44 pmthe main thing that's pushing me towards believing it is it would be odd for town to have 0 kp in this setupInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:40 pm Is there any particular reason that Daughter's role is town moreso than mafia/3P?
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:51 pmis that a keyboard mash or an acronym I don't understand?LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:47 pmsbpcbwweInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:45 pmI don't disagree, but throwing town a low-poster killer, when Mafia are more likely to not low-post, seems almost destined to end up killing a lot of lhf townies rather than ever catch legitimate mafiaLordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:44 pmthe main thing that's pushing me towards believing it is it would be odd for town to have 0 kp in this setupInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:40 pm Is there any particular reason that Daughter's role is town moreso than mafia/3P?
giving them an extra day for parity or bullshit is mildly annoyingInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:49 pmday commuters are funny, but yeah if you've ever watched Survivor, specifically S40, it's the Safety Without Power twist - leave the thread, cannot vote but also cannot be voted for. In a game where your vote and your voice are you biggest assets outside of any PR abilities you have, it's a pure self-pres move and I don't see why a day commuter would be more likely town when town really have nothing to hide and the only way a day commuter benefits Le Petit is if they were at risk of dying - but commuting means not being able to give content and reads as a townie, which seems counter-intuitiveLordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:46 pmproblem was I didn't have many reasons, I just thought you d1 felt very odd and didn't like the pushes you were makingInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:44 pmPush me anyways tbh, I'm kinda on a hyper kick posting all over the thread instead of working on assignments that are due tomorrow IRL and I haven't even started yet, so if I am mafia then I kinda have a lot of control over the gamestate rn since I'm posting a lot and for the most part of the only one posting.LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:42 pm also i was gonna push for IAWY but then he came in and started posting exactly what I had be worried about overnight with Chelsea so I feel less keen about that
still not sure Chelsea is a wolf mind you, but her weirdness with guillo + her not dying makes me nervous. Wasn't planning on posting about it until she showed up though
Us aligning on the topic of Chelsea doesn't invalidate all the other reasons it sounds like you have for suspecting me enough to advocate for a wagon push
Le poutit was actually my top wolf but I took the start of day post to mean they can't be voted for. Which honestly seems unusual for a wolf role so I might be wrong there too
could be 3p, but I'm not gonna set down that rabbithole rn
sort by postcount become werewolf expert for those not in the know generallyInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:52 pmOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:51 pmis that a keyboard mash or an acronym I don't understand?LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:47 pmsbpcbwweInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:45 pmI don't disagree, but throwing town a low-poster killer, when Mafia are more likely to not low-post, seems almost destined to end up killing a lot of lhf townies rather than ever catch legitimate mafiaLordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:44 pmthe main thing that's pushing me towards believing it is it would be odd for town to have 0 kp in this setupInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:40 pm Is there any particular reason that Daughter's role is town moreso than mafia/3P?
nvm it just clicked, disregard
There's another layer of it too, which is that the commute only happened during the day, not during the night. If it's applicable for the entire cycle or just until EoD, we won't know until it happens, but it's one thing for a townie to have a night commuter to prevent getting NK'ed, it's quite another for a townie to have a day commuter when again, town's biggest asset is their vote and voice, and saving yourself from a chop by just being absent is incredibly whelming as a townie ability when it doesn't prevent you from getting killed by the mafia overnight, whereas it protects mafia from getting chopped since they otherwise can't die overnightLordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:52 pmgiving them an extra day for parity or bullshit is mildly annoyingInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:49 pmday commuters are funny, but yeah if you've ever watched Survivor, specifically S40, it's the Safety Without Power twist - leave the thread, cannot vote but also cannot be voted for. In a game where your vote and your voice are you biggest assets outside of any PR abilities you have, it's a pure self-pres move and I don't see why a day commuter would be more likely town when town really have nothing to hide and the only way a day commuter benefits Le Petit is if they were at risk of dying - but commuting means not being able to give content and reads as a townie, which seems counter-intuitiveLordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:46 pmproblem was I didn't have many reasons, I just thought you d1 felt very odd and didn't like the pushes you were makingInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:44 pmPush me anyways tbh, I'm kinda on a hyper kick posting all over the thread instead of working on assignments that are due tomorrow IRL and I haven't even started yet, so if I am mafia then I kinda have a lot of control over the gamestate rn since I'm posting a lot and for the most part of the only one posting.LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:42 pm also i was gonna push for IAWY but then he came in and started posting exactly what I had be worried about overnight with Chelsea so I feel less keen about that
still not sure Chelsea is a wolf mind you, but her weirdness with guillo + her not dying makes me nervous. Wasn't planning on posting about it until she showed up though
Us aligning on the topic of Chelsea doesn't invalidate all the other reasons it sounds like you have for suspecting me enough to advocate for a wagon push
Le poutit was actually my top wolf but I took the start of day post to mean they can't be voted for. Which honestly seems unusual for a wolf role so I might be wrong there too
could be 3p, but I'm not gonna set down that rabbithole rn
tbh i wasnt assuming it would remove post & vote ability but regardless theres already been one strictly anti town town role flipped (the one that skips a day if killed)Inawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:55 pmThere's another layer of it too, which is that the commute only happened during the day, not during the night. If it's applicable for the entire cycle or just until EoD, we won't know until it happens, but it's one thing for a townie to have a night commuter to prevent getting NK'ed, it's quite another for a townie to have a day commuter when again, town's biggest asset is their vote and voice, and saving yourself from a chop by just being absent is incredibly whelming as a townie ability when it doesn't prevent you from getting killed by the mafia overnight, whereas it protects mafia from getting chopped since they otherwise can't die overnightLordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:52 pmgiving them an extra day for parity or bullshit is mildly annoyingInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:49 pmday commuters are funny, but yeah if you've ever watched Survivor, specifically S40, it's the Safety Without Power twist - leave the thread, cannot vote but also cannot be voted for. In a game where your vote and your voice are you biggest assets outside of any PR abilities you have, it's a pure self-pres move and I don't see why a day commuter would be more likely town when town really have nothing to hide and the only way a day commuter benefits Le Petit is if they were at risk of dying - but commuting means not being able to give content and reads as a townie, which seems counter-intuitiveLordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:46 pmproblem was I didn't have many reasons, I just thought you d1 felt very odd and didn't like the pushes you were makingInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:44 pmPush me anyways tbh, I'm kinda on a hyper kick posting all over the thread instead of working on assignments that are due tomorrow IRL and I haven't even started yet, so if I am mafia then I kinda have a lot of control over the gamestate rn since I'm posting a lot and for the most part of the only one posting.LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:42 pm also i was gonna push for IAWY but then he came in and started posting exactly what I had be worried about overnight with Chelsea so I feel less keen about that
still not sure Chelsea is a wolf mind you, but her weirdness with guillo + her not dying makes me nervous. Wasn't planning on posting about it until she showed up though
Us aligning on the topic of Chelsea doesn't invalidate all the other reasons it sounds like you have for suspecting me enough to advocate for a wagon push
Le poutit was actually my top wolf but I took the start of day post to mean they can't be voted for. Which honestly seems unusual for a wolf role so I might be wrong there too
could be 3p, but I'm not gonna set down that rabbithole rn
it's either a mafia or 3P ability, I don't see how it can be town without being a useless role that's counter-intuitive for what townies do in a game
I don't believe the role is wrong per se, I'm in the middle of reading their ISO and this postIBA wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:56 pm I just don’t believe the claimed role for Omega. It feels made up. I know there’s some wacky abilities in the game but it’s oppressively anti-town to put on town, and like, now what, it’s a rush to spam posts at eod? I mean I know people have this dumb idea that town are supposed to not care about dying, but, that’s dumb.
Makes the game borderline unplayable, I call shenanigans.
I do agree with. If Daughter is lying, then the kills have to be explained some other way. Not impossible thoughDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:42 pmSo I'm a backup who claimed low post killer.
Who then has killed the two low posters?
That would need to exist elsewhere
I've seen you sow seeds of doubt and mafia logic so far today
i've seen slank vigs for town beforeIBA wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:56 pm I just don’t believe the claimed role for Omega. It feels made up. I know there’s some wacky abilities in the game but it’s oppressively anti-town to put on town, and like, now what, it’s a rush to spam posts at eod? I mean I know people have this dumb idea that town are supposed to not care about dying, but, that’s dumb.
Makes the game borderline unplayable, I call shenanigans.
IBA can correct me if i'm wrong but i think IBA is saying thatInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:59 pmI don't believe the role is wrong per se, I'm in the middle of reading their ISO and this postIBA wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:56 pm I just don’t believe the claimed role for Omega. It feels made up. I know there’s some wacky abilities in the game but it’s oppressively anti-town to put on town, and like, now what, it’s a rush to spam posts at eod? I mean I know people have this dumb idea that town are supposed to not care about dying, but, that’s dumb.
Makes the game borderline unplayable, I call shenanigans.
I do agree with. If Daughter is lying, then the kills have to be explained some other way. Not impossible thoughDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:42 pmSo I'm a backup who claimed low post killer.
Who then has killed the two low posters?
That would need to exist elsewhere
I've seen you sow seeds of doubt and mafia logic so far today
Which is moreso to say, I don't believe Daughter is lying about their role so much as they are lying about their alignment
I have nothing of value to contribute via my role either, butDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:01 pm You can tell me revealing my walrus over this game says something about how engaging my role is
you said itInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:05 pmI have nothing of value to contribute via my role either, butDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:01 pm You can tell me revealing my walrus over this game says something about how engaging my role is
as stated twice already on this page
if townie, your power is in your vote and your voice, not your roles
so if you're not engaged in the game because of your role
aka, you're focusing more on your role than the content you could generate and the game-solving you can do
at best, it's having the wrong focus and a bad mindset for having WIM in this game
at worst, it's an unintentional self-tell that you're not town
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:06 pmyou said itInawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:05 pmI have nothing of value to contribute via my role either, butDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:01 pm You can tell me revealing my walrus over this game says something about how engaging my role is
as stated twice already on this page
if townie, your power is in your vote and your voice, not your roles
so if you're not engaged in the game because of your role
aka, you're focusing more on your role than the content you could generate and the game-solving you can do
at best, it's having the wrong focus and a bad mindset for having WIM in this game
at worst, it's an unintentional self-tell that you're not town
i vibe with that
"And considering you're reading along and lurking enough to know we're talking about you"Inawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:06 pm And considering you're reading along and lurking enough to know we're talking about you to conveniently pop in, then you can definitely contribute when your walrus reveal is done and you have time freed up, so I expect at least a readslist before I go to bed. Anything to show that you care about solving this game