Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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to be fair mac even us here on the syndicate used to do that, years agoMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:51 pmThe former.Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:44 pmIS that because you don't trust the logic that zenge would never accept an AM NKMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:08 pmreeeeally though? this is a dangerous read.potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:47 pmI specifically stated Zenge is clear from being the faction that killed her, whoever that was.santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:27 pmWhy do you assume AM was the nk to clear someone?potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:58 pmBecause recently, NKing AM on SDN is... I don't want to phrase it poorly but it's being seen as something of a dick move. She gets killed early all the fucking time and she's expressed frustration with it.
Zenge wouldn't stand for being part of a team that kills her night one. No chance, no way. It's just not happening.
I see 3 people dead
or
Because you aren't convinced AM was the NK?
Especially when killing AM might be optimal for the rest of your team.
If it advantages you why wouldn't you do it?
Imagine the entire wolf team wanted AM dead and Zenge is just there pouting like "nope not doing it I'm boss". Unlikely.
Moreover making reads predicated on "so and so would never" when the thing is canon literally gives that person 1 free win for doing that whenever they so please.
I don't think Zenge is mafia. I think it's a bogus reason to townread Zenge though.
Posts like this don't help.santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:41 pmSomeday you'll learn to read me correctly.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:24 pmSanty is probably a wolf because Santy is being sanctimonious and belabouring all the stuff he can that is "town 101" when as town he leaves all that shit behind and just goes ham on reads. Net outcome is town Santy gets heavily sussed and wolf Santy gets heavily townread.Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
Today is still not that day
I know but I still do them anyways because I know I'm rightMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:57 pmPosts like this don't help.santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:41 pmSomeday you'll learn to read me correctly.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:24 pmSanty is probably a wolf because Santy is being sanctimonious and belabouring all the stuff he can that is "town 101" when as town he leaves all that shit behind and just goes ham on reads. Net outcome is town Santy gets heavily sussed and wolf Santy gets heavily townread.Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
Today is still not that day
Hmm interesting, because currently i’m voting mayos so i’m curious what posts are making you worry about SDNers compulsively townreading each other. I feel good about Zenges and Santy but many SDNers are floating around in neutrals.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:00 pm One thing I worry about is that the SDN players seem to more compulsively townread each other which is causing an overemphasis on Syndicators who don't do that. Yesterday and today all viable wagons have been Syndicators. SDNers are over emphasising on Syndicators and Syndicators are ignoring SDNers due to no SDNers having strong pushes onto other SDNers.
SDNers need to make more effort to find the wolves in the other SDNers or wolf SDNers are gonna skate.
SDNers.
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
if santy is wolf here he's really hard to findsantygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:58 pmI know but I still do them anyways because I know I'm rightMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:57 pmPosts like this don't help.santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:41 pmSomeday you'll learn to read me correctly.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:24 pmSanty is probably a wolf because Santy is being sanctimonious and belabouring all the stuff he can that is "town 101" when as town he leaves all that shit behind and just goes ham on reads. Net outcome is town Santy gets heavily sussed and wolf Santy gets heavily townread.Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:28 pm I feel like there’s a lot of resistance to zenges push on falcons
Santy at least is approaching from a pretty strongly village trajectory by highlighting the need to reassess in the event Zenges is wrong and looking for other wolves that don’t depend primarily on falcons being a wolf
Today is still not that day
And if it's a 6 person wolf team and 5 want her dead he doesn't have a say so miss me with your pockety logic.potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:53 pmAgain. Then don't use that as your reason. I already said his tunneling of falcon puts him way in his village meta, not his wolf meta. And the syndicats don't have background on this. But yes, it's considered rude. He wouldn't do it, and I'm very confident on that. SoMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:51 pmThe former.Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:44 pmIS that because you don't trust the logic that zenge would never accept an AM NKMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:08 pmreeeeally though? this is a dangerous read.potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:47 pmI specifically stated Zenge is clear from being the faction that killed her, whoever that was.santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:27 pmWhy do you assume AM was the nk to clear someone?potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:58 pm
Because recently, NKing AM on SDN is... I don't want to phrase it poorly but it's being seen as something of a dick move. She gets killed early all the fucking time and she's expressed frustration with it.
Zenge wouldn't stand for being part of a team that kills her night one. No chance, no way. It's just not happening.
I see 3 people dead
or
Because you aren't convinced AM was the NK?
Especially when killing AM might be optimal for the rest of your team.
If it advantages you why wouldn't you do it?
Imagine the entire wolf team wanted AM dead and Zenge is just there pouting like "nope not doing it I'm boss". Unlikely.
Moreover making reads predicated on "so and so would never" when the thing is canon literally gives that person 1 free win for doing that whenever they so please.
I don't think Zenge is mafia. I think it's a bogus reason to townread Zenge though.
yes that's supportive of my point... keep up junior.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:55 pmto be fair mac even us here on the syndicate used to do that, years agoMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:51 pmThe former.Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:44 pmIS that because you don't trust the logic that zenge would never accept an AM NKMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:08 pmreeeeally though? this is a dangerous read.potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:47 pmI specifically stated Zenge is clear from being the faction that killed her, whoever that was.santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:27 pmWhy do you assume AM was the nk to clear someone?potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:58 pm
Because recently, NKing AM on SDN is... I don't want to phrase it poorly but it's being seen as something of a dick move. She gets killed early all the fucking time and she's expressed frustration with it.
Zenge wouldn't stand for being part of a team that kills her night one. No chance, no way. It's just not happening.
I see 3 people dead
or
Because you aren't convinced AM was the NK?
Especially when killing AM might be optimal for the rest of your team.
If it advantages you why wouldn't you do it?
Imagine the entire wolf team wanted AM dead and Zenge is just there pouting like "nope not doing it I'm boss". Unlikely.
Moreover making reads predicated on "so and so would never" when the thing is canon literally gives that person 1 free win for doing that whenever they so please.
I don't think Zenge is mafia. I think it's a bogus reason to townread Zenge though.
i remember my first game. me, alison and hally - all of us joined at the same time, at the same game
hally was the n1 kill
a lot of syndicators got cleared because "we would never kill a newcomer n1 on their first game, ever, that would be pretty rude"
I've forgotten what it was. But it was really dumb lol even if I believed it.
Everyone gets misyeeted from time to time.Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:01 pmPSV gets misyeeted all the time. I’ve been misyeeted recently too. I wouldn’t say we’re village read at baselineMayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:39 pmSARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:03 pmI just wanted to see you here because you not here was sus. Not like wolfy sus but just general sus if that makes sense?santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:58 pmHihi . Your only trouble or what pinged you me being missing? Nothing else ?SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:49 pm Oh good beetlejeuse worked. Welcome back Santy
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
I mean, I am pretty blank since I have read nothing of D1. How about you?
I have read probably 10% of D1 and focused mainly on the SDNers for now.
Not feeling mighty, maybe dy but I almost never play with her anyway. Nate, genny, and mayo next but feeling ok with them for now, just not as good as I feel about Zenge/PSV/Miranda
Isn't this just a ranking of the baseline sus of the SDNers (except maybe the noob)?
Zenge/PSV are village read at baseline
Mayo, Genny, Nate are some level of sus at baseline
Less posts more "syndicators are being wagoned near exclusively".Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:00 pmHmm interesting, because currently i’m voting mayos so i’m curious what posts are making you worry about SDNers compulsively townreading each other. I feel good about Zenges and Santy but many SDNers are floating around in neutrals.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:00 pm One thing I worry about is that the SDN players seem to more compulsively townread each other which is causing an overemphasis on Syndicators who don't do that. Yesterday and today all viable wagons have been Syndicators. SDNers are over emphasising on Syndicators and Syndicators are ignoring SDNers due to no SDNers having strong pushes onto other SDNers.
SDNers need to make more effort to find the wolves in the other SDNers or wolf SDNers are gonna skate.
SDNers.
neon both 1) forgetting her reads and 2) refusing to explain the ones she remembers (i bet she wont answer whats marmot's towntell she found) just keeps making her town. she doesnt have the guts to do this as scum
Is it gluten free?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:48 pmSuch good observations from you have a cookie!Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:39 pmSARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:03 pmI just wanted to see you here because you not here was sus. Not like wolfy sus but just general sus if that makes sense?santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:58 pmHihi . Your only trouble or what pinged you me being missing? Nothing else ?SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:49 pm Oh good beetlejeuse worked. Welcome back Santy
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
I mean, I am pretty blank since I have read nothing of D1. How about you?
I have read probably 10% of D1 and focused mainly on the SDNers for now.
Not feeling mighty, maybe dy but I almost never play with her anyway. Nate, genny, and mayo next but feeling ok with them for now, just not as good as I feel about Zenge/PSV/Miranda
Isn't this just a ranking of the baseline sus of the SDNers (except maybe the noob)?
Zenge/PSV are village read at baseline
Mayo, Genny, Nate are some level of sus at baseline
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:05 pmneon both 1) forgetting her reads and 2) refusing to explain the ones she remembers (i bet she wont answer whats marmot's towntell she found) just keeps making her town. she doesnt have the guts to do this as scum
Maybe I missed it, but did anyone make this particular case?miranda920 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:13 pm Okay I have limited time
I’m between creature and marmot
On my first read of Marmot, nothing stood out to me that would make me lean wolf/mafia there
But it appears I may be missing so important familiarity context and that marmot isn’t playing as they typically would
I’ve already discussed creature and how I felt some things there seem odd
I'm saying that one person saying trust our town reads immediately followed by another person saying town never wins kindof undercuts the argumentsantygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:50 pmMayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:48 pmsantygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:32 am I'm sorry but I remember the first time I played with falcon I also sussed them, took the insight of some Syndicate people that were kinda in the middle and just went into 'sure falcon is mafia' mindset ignoring other people calling them town and never really got out of there. Falcon was town there.
I think seeing the falcon wagon as PURE SDN and the peole from the same site that know him more calling them town should be a huge signal of that wagon being bad.
I know Zenge is tunneled . But I hope this is a wake-up call if you are town
@SARdoghandler @potentialsheltervet @mightyrunner7These two posts contradict each other. If mafia usually wins on this site, why would this site townreading falcon outweigh the sdn reads? Village wins very frequently there.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:21 am
you know what? good enough
if falcon is mafia here he can officially join the syndicate club of "be more towny as mafia than you are as town". about 70% of us syndicators are in this club, hence why mafia have won like 15 out of the 17 games played this year. but if it happens it happens. i think if u just go by simple logic - u townread falcon here
What
Are you saying people without meta have more accurate reads than people with meta?
Where exactly did anyone do this?potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:06 pm Hi can I make a suggestion/request
Can we do a little less splitting of site v site and focus more on town v mafia?
I just feel like saying SDN v syndicate isn't extraordinarily helpful. Obviously we all have meta on certain people and that's significant but the other stuff is getting tiresome.
Wow. Same group as marmot, creature, and falcon.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:06 pm Current reads no order
Town
Mayo
Miranda
Sloonei
Tutuu
SVS
Santy
Zenge
Wolves
Creature
Marmot
Falcon
PSV
Because Scotty's posts looked towny, but they didn't feel townie.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:35 pmSo because of what dya said, which is a reason not to apply a meta read not a reason to townread, you voted out Scotty, a strong player who wasn't all that wolfy?Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:46 amI didn't want to pry into personal lives, so I chose to accept it. I just assumed that dya knew something outside of the thread (not necessarily in scumchat, just from somewhere else) that made them say that.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:42 am@Marmot , how would this make you think that?
Marmot saidAre dyachei and Creature related that this remark would make you back off? I'm asking in seriousness, not being facetious.I'm probably going to move my vote off of Creature because it seems his lack of activity and commitment is out of his control atm.
That said, it is Day 2, and Creature hasn't done much that the leash he was given (at least by me, I dunno how many others voted the same way).
Why did you specifically vote Scotty?
You, specifically, saying SDNers aren't comfortable pushing each other.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:07 pmWhere exactly did anyone do this?potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:06 pm Hi can I make a suggestion/request
Can we do a little less splitting of site v site and focus more on town v mafia?
I just feel like saying SDN v syndicate isn't extraordinarily helpful. Obviously we all have meta on certain people and that's significant but the other stuff is getting tiresome.
What makes you thiiiiiiiink so, and what is causing so much hesitation?
Where would you put Dennis?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:06 pm Current reads no order
Town
Mayo
Miranda
Sloonei
Tutuu
SVS
Santy
Zenge
Wolves
Creature
Marmot
Falcon
PSV
i believe u that u arent mafia with all of thempotentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:07 pmWow. Same group as marmot, creature, and falcon.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:06 pm Current reads no order
Town
Mayo
Miranda
Sloonei
Tutuu
SVS
Santy
Zenge
Wolves
Creature
Marmot
Falcon
PSV
Maybe not a clear. It's definitely big points in his favor. I guess he can't control the whole pack. He would push pretty hard to avoid a NK on her D1. I think most packs would have been able to find another worthwhile N1K to appease him.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:51 pmThe former.Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:44 pmIS that because you don't trust the logic that zenge would never accept an AM NKMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:08 pmreeeeally though? this is a dangerous read.potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:47 pmI specifically stated Zenge is clear from being the faction that killed her, whoever that was.santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:27 pmWhy do you assume AM was the nk to clear someone?potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:58 pmBecause recently, NKing AM on SDN is... I don't want to phrase it poorly but it's being seen as something of a dick move. She gets killed early all the fucking time and she's expressed frustration with it.
Zenge wouldn't stand for being part of a team that kills her night one. No chance, no way. It's just not happening.
I see 3 people dead
or
Because you aren't convinced AM was the NK?
Especially when killing AM might be optimal for the rest of your team.
If it advantages you why wouldn't you do it?
Imagine the entire wolf team wanted AM dead and Zenge is just there pouting like "nope not doing it I'm boss". Unlikely.
Moreover making reads predicated on "so and so would never" when the thing is canon literally gives that person 1 free win for doing that whenever they so please.
I don't think Zenge is mafia. I think it's a bogus reason to townread Zenge though.
This is not how I interpret Mac's words.potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:08 pmYou, specifically, saying SDNers aren't comfortable pushing each other.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:07 pmWhere exactly did anyone do this?potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:06 pm Hi can I make a suggestion/request
Can we do a little less splitting of site v site and focus more on town v mafia?
I just feel like saying SDN v syndicate isn't extraordinarily helpful. Obviously we all have meta on certain people and that's significant but the other stuff is getting tiresome.
Outside of Creature being low impact did you have any reason to need to be saving him?Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:07 pmBecause Scotty's posts looked towny, but they didn't feel townie.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:35 pmSo because of what dya said, which is a reason not to apply a meta read not a reason to townread, you voted out Scotty, a strong player who wasn't all that wolfy?Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:46 amI didn't want to pry into personal lives, so I chose to accept it. I just assumed that dya knew something outside of the thread (not necessarily in scumchat, just from somewhere else) that made them say that.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:42 am@Marmot , how would this make you think that?
Marmot saidAre dyachei and Creature related that this remark would make you back off? I'm asking in seriousness, not being facetious.I'm probably going to move my vote off of Creature because it seems his lack of activity and commitment is out of his control atm.
That said, it is Day 2, and Creature hasn't done much that the leash he was given (at least by me, I dunno how many others voted the same way).
Why did you specifically vote Scotty?
Also he was the alternative to Creature.
Okay but you're acting like me and Zenge can just fuck around and get town read. We have to fight to get town read every game and I've still been misyoten at least 25% of the games I've played the past six months. You're right that you and genny are sketchy villagers and are treated as such but it's disingenuous to suggest me and Zenge don't get scrutinized.Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:03 pmEveryone gets misyeeted from time to time.Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:01 pmPSV gets misyeeted all the time. I’ve been misyeeted recently too. I wouldn’t say we’re village read at baselineMayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:39 pmSARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:03 pmI just wanted to see you here because you not here was sus. Not like wolfy sus but just general sus if that makes sense?santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:58 pmHihi . Your only trouble or what pinged you me being missing? Nothing else ?SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:49 pm Oh good beetlejeuse worked. Welcome back Santy
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
I mean, I am pretty blank since I have read nothing of D1. How about you?
I have read probably 10% of D1 and focused mainly on the SDNers for now.
Not feeling mighty, maybe dy but I almost never play with her anyway. Nate, genny, and mayo next but feeling ok with them for now, just not as good as I feel about Zenge/PSV/Miranda
Isn't this just a ranking of the baseline sus of the SDNers (except maybe the noob)?
Zenge/PSV are village read at baseline
Mayo, Genny, Nate are some level of sus at baseline
If you are trying to say that you and PSV don't get a village benefit of the doubt and Genny and I aren't perma-sussed by people who can't read us, then you are being disingenuous.
She said she wasn't caught up, so maybe the reads list will evolve. This list lacks authenticity.
If I wanted to make a Dennis read I'd have done so.santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:08 pmWhere would you put Dennis?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:06 pm Current reads no order
Town
Mayo
Miranda
Sloonei
Tutuu
SVS
Santy
Zenge
Wolves
Creature
Marmot
Falcon
PSV
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:43 pmYeah you're reading this the same way I am.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:17 pmSo, all three of you, Scotty and Creature were all there in the last five minutes. Creature, who you initially voted for but then moved off cause a third party implied he might be busy; Scotty, who was himself saying he had been to busy to be active in the thread~ who you said earlier had "technically townie posts", and you only voted him becasue "Ties bad", and you, ignoring both of them.
So I'm pretty OK with my vote.
Linki marmie
Twenty minutes before EOD
Between that and this, Creature made multiple posts. So did you, and Scotty came in, and you quoted him (I spoilered this cause this is getting long)
Spoiler: show
I get Marmot's argument for not wanting Creature to go over sorta.
But to dismiss the possibility that it was dya wolf shielding Creature is one tick against it.
Another is that it's no excuse to lazily vote the top wagon. Especially when it's Scotty, who I'd expect Marmot to over value the presence of and be very wary of miselimming day 1 over Creature. I doubt Marmot wouldn't try to at least curry up another chop, or try harder to explore Scotty's mindset and figure out his alignment.
yeah? same as what i said
How is that me saying SDN v Syndicate?potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:08 pmYou, specifically, saying SDNers aren't comfortable pushing each other.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:07 pmWhere exactly did anyone do this?potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:06 pm Hi can I make a suggestion/request
Can we do a little less splitting of site v site and focus more on town v mafia?
I just feel like saying SDN v syndicate isn't extraordinarily helpful. Obviously we all have meta on certain people and that's significant but the other stuff is getting tiresome.
No, that was literally the only reason.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:09 pmOutside of Creature being low impact did you have any reason to need to be saving him?Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:07 pmBecause Scotty's posts looked towny, but they didn't feel townie.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:35 pmSo because of what dya said, which is a reason not to apply a meta read not a reason to townread, you voted out Scotty, a strong player who wasn't all that wolfy?Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:46 amI didn't want to pry into personal lives, so I chose to accept it. I just assumed that dya knew something outside of the thread (not necessarily in scumchat, just from somewhere else) that made them say that.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:42 am@Marmot , how would this make you think that?
Marmot saidAre dyachei and Creature related that this remark would make you back off? I'm asking in seriousness, not being facetious.I'm probably going to move my vote off of Creature because it seems his lack of activity and commitment is out of his control atm.
That said, it is Day 2, and Creature hasn't done much that the leash he was given (at least by me, I dunno how many others voted the same way).
Why did you specifically vote Scotty?
Also he was the alternative to Creature.
So you irresponsibly killed a strong town who you have the most experience with of anyone and accidentally saved what looks to be an outed mafia.Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:10 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:43 pmYeah you're reading this the same way I am.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:17 pmSo, all three of you, Scotty and Creature were all there in the last five minutes. Creature, who you initially voted for but then moved off cause a third party implied he might be busy; Scotty, who was himself saying he had been to busy to be active in the thread~ who you said earlier had "technically townie posts", and you only voted him becasue "Ties bad", and you, ignoring both of them.
So I'm pretty OK with my vote.
Linki marmie
Twenty minutes before EOD
Between that and this, Creature made multiple posts. So did you, and Scotty came in, and you quoted him (I spoilered this cause this is getting long)
Spoiler: show
I get Marmot's argument for not wanting Creature to go over sorta.
But to dismiss the possibility that it was dya wolf shielding Creature is one tick against it.
Another is that it's no excuse to lazily vote the top wagon. Especially when it's Scotty, who I'd expect Marmot to over value the presence of and be very wary of miselimming day 1 over Creature. I doubt Marmot wouldn't try to at least curry up another chop, or try harder to explore Scotty's mindset and figure out his alignment.
This was a thing that I wanted to do because Scotty and Creature didn't feel like great options at the time, but given I'd missed a large portion of Day 1, I thought it would be irresponsible of me try to get someone else chopped one I didn't have a good grasp on the game.
