Game of Champions- Merged Thread [GAME OVER- SERIAL KILLER WINS]

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Davos
2
15%


Voters: DrWilgy, Epignosis

Delta
0
No votes


Voters: None

DrWilgy
0
No votes


Voters: None

Epignosis
0
No votes


Voters: None

leetic
1
8%


Voters: sig

sig
0
No votes


Voters: None

WindwardAway
2
15%


Voters: leetic, Davos

Unvote
1
8%


Voters: WindwardAway

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Davos waited about the mizzenmast.

He seemed to never make rendez vous with his contact. He would have like to be more useful, but drinking and wenching took so much time!

So much energy!

He never seemed to be around when his partner showed up, and things just never seemed to work out for them.

He looked ashore and saw a ruckus, took out his spyglass and spied a number of people fighting and waving pitchforks and torches.

"Arr", he said to himself, "I had best be getting meself out of here afore the mob comes a lookin' for me!".

But they saw his ship pulling away from the dock, and sent flaming arrows into his sails.

Davos has drawn his last breath

Spoiler: show

Davos was a sockpuppet, and was by default aligned with the Landlords.

It is Now Night *7*

Please get night actions in within 22 hours.

NOTE THE NIGHT POLL!!

We are considering going to 24 hour days, and are looking to see what y'all think of that.

[S~V~S]

There's alot more to sig than meets the eye.

Sig is probably the best natured person in any game he plays. Even mid yeet he's haha-ing and at people. He was deeper than he looked. And he never brought the drama, he always defused it. He deserved an award for his game in Scooby Doo; his baddie performance in in that game was spectacular.

He's always fair, and is willing to hear and discuss points in favor of the people he suspects.

From now on, anytime a couple plays a game, I'll be on the lookout for the Ika/Silverwolf maneuver, as should we all. Thanks sig, we hardly knew ye, even though you'd think that, by now, we all would.


Sig has died,

Sig:

Spoiler: show

JJJ’s bad first date- not his fault (JJJ’s Bad First Date Mafia):

You are town, and win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

You were a date that ended poorly when she informed JaggedJimmyJay that she had been tracked by the police for child endangerment charges.

It's now DAY 8. Per your vote, day will last 48 hours. You know what to do, you know how to do it.

[WindwardAway]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

You played a really good game, mate.

[WindwardAway]

To everyone else: you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us.

[WindwardAway]

I don't think I'm gonna stay up much longer tonight, but fortunately the day is still 48 hours so I have plenty of time to say my bit. I'll probably be more active in the last 24 hours, though.

[leetic]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Fairly sure this is the last wolf. Still, I will look at Epi and Delta since it's so late in the game

[WindwardAway]

Last night when looking through EoD again, I talked myself out of scumreading leetic. They moved their vote very reasonably when they saw that both Wilgy and I were voting Davos.

[leetic]

To everyone else: you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us.

Brad being Davos makes enough sense. I do think Wilgy is likely the remaining Arbiter though

[WindwardAway]

I don't really suspect Epi, either, because they moved their vote after I unvoted Davos, and I can't think of a reason why a wolf would rather flip a sock puppet than someone who's a mislunch.

[Epignosis]

To everyone else: you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us.

Why did you unvote after I voted you?

[WindwardAway]

To everyone else: you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us.

Brad being Davos makes enough sense. I do think Wilgy is likely the remaining Arbiter though

Ah shit, I forgot that the sock puppets might not die when the owners do
Isn't that kind of crazy, though, like if we yeeted all the remaining wolves out of the thread and ignored Davos, the landlords would just win by existing?

[WindwardAway]

To everyone else: you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us.

Why did you unvote after I voted you?

Because I wanted the Davos flip, but not more than I wanted whatever flip was going to be most informative for everyone else to solve the game. I wanted the flip for info, but I wasn't going to self-pres on a sock puppet.

[Epignosis]

To everyone else: you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us.

Brad being Davos makes enough sense. I do think Wilgy is likely the remaining Arbiter though

Where do you find this connection?

Been working all day, so I might be slow.

[WindwardAway]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Fairly sure this is the last wolf. Still, I will look at Epi and Delta since it's so late in the game

If Davos flipped landlord and you think Wilgy is an Arbiter, you think Davos counted as a whole mafia slot?

[Epignosis]

To everyone else: you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us.

Why did you unvote after I voted you?

Because I wanted the Davos flip, but not more than I wanted whatever flip was going to be most informative for everyone else to solve the game. I wanted the flip for info, but I wasn't going to self-pres on a sock puppet.

You dying over Davos was not going to be informative to me. Nothing here is. There are no more teams (I don't believe).

I did make leetic jump though, didn't I?

[WindwardAway]

To everyone else: you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us.

Why did you unvote after I voted you?

Because I wanted the Davos flip, but not more than I wanted whatever flip was going to be most informative for everyone else to solve the game. I wanted the flip for info, but I wasn't going to self-pres on a sock puppet.

You dying over Davos was not going to be informative to me. Nothing here is. There are no more teams (I don't believe).

I did make leetic jump though, didn't I?

Idk, I thought flipping a player slot rather than a puppet slot was at least a bit more useful lol

[WindwardAway]

I would definitely like to hear from Delta today, btw. It felt like they were sitting back during a lot of the discussion yesterday and letting it happen rather than jumping in and giving their opinion.

[Epignosis]

I thought leetic's jump on you when I made my 11th hour play against you was super suspicious. Thoughts?

[WindwardAway]

I thought leetic's jump on you when I made my 11th hour play against you was super suspicious. Thoughts?

I gave thoughts a couple posts ago. Leetic's PoE was very firmly only Wilgy/me, so I think pointing out that Wilgy and I were both voting Davos as a reason to jump off of Davos and onto me made sense in context.

The one thing that stuck out to me was that earlier, leetic was against voting Davos or at least avoiding the topic, but when arguing with Wilgy they voted Davos in a way that sounded like they were intimidating Wilgy to vote there, too. And that's probably the only thing that didn't make sense to me in Leetic's progression, but I don't know that it's enough to warrant suspicion.

[WindwardAway]

I thought leetic's jump on you when I made my 11th hour play against you was super suspicious. Thoughts?

I gave thoughts a couple posts ago. Leetic's PoE was very firmly only Wilgy/me, so I think pointing out that Wilgy and I were both voting Davos as a reason to jump off of Davos and onto me made sense in context.

The one thing that stuck out to me was that earlier, leetic was against voting Davos or at least avoiding the topic, but when arguing with Wilgy they voted Davos in a way that sounded like they were intimidating Wilgy to vote there, too. And that's probably the only thing that didn't make sense to me in Leetic's progression, but I don't know that it's enough to warrant suspicion.

I should clarify: the part that doesn't make sense to me is that leetic thought I was a wolf, then thought Wilgy was a wolf, but followed my vote onto Davos in order to make Wilgy vote there, and then voted me at EoD *because* both Wilgy and I were still on Davos. Like there's a gap in reasoning in between, but I don't think it's really alignment indicative?

[WindwardAway]

On an unrelated note, no event today?

[Epignosis]

I thought leetic's jump on you when I made my 11th hour play against you was super suspicious. Thoughts?

I gave thoughts a couple posts ago. Leetic's PoE was very firmly only Wilgy/me, so I think pointing out that Wilgy and I were both voting Davos as a reason to jump off of Davos and onto me made sense in context.

The one thing that stuck out to me was that earlier, leetic was against voting Davos or at least avoiding the topic, but when arguing with Wilgy they voted Davos in a way that sounded like they were intimidating Wilgy to vote there, too. And that's probably the only thing that didn't make sense to me in Leetic's progression, but I don't know that it's enough to warrant suspicion.

I should clarify: the part that doesn't make sense to me is that leetic thought I was a wolf, then thought Wilgy was a wolf, but followed my vote onto Davos in order to make Wilgy vote there, and then voted me at EoD *because* both Wilgy and I were still on Davos. Like there's a gap in reasoning in between, but I don't think it's really alignment indicative?

My interpretation was that leetic saw you as an easy "real person" kill once I moved and could thus leave Davos for Day 8.

[WindwardAway]

Anyway, idk what to make of Leetic's theory that Brad could've been Davos's owner. I still think Davos would've died if the owner died, or it would potentially lead to a weird XyLo situation.

[WindwardAway]

I thought leetic's jump on you when I made my 11th hour play against you was super suspicious. Thoughts?

I gave thoughts a couple posts ago. Leetic's PoE was very firmly only Wilgy/me, so I think pointing out that Wilgy and I were both voting Davos as a reason to jump off of Davos and onto me made sense in context.

The one thing that stuck out to me was that earlier, leetic was against voting Davos or at least avoiding the topic, but when arguing with Wilgy they voted Davos in a way that sounded like they were intimidating Wilgy to vote there, too. And that's probably the only thing that didn't make sense to me in Leetic's progression, but I don't know that it's enough to warrant suspicion.

I should clarify: the part that doesn't make sense to me is that leetic thought I was a wolf, then thought Wilgy was a wolf, but followed my vote onto Davos in order to make Wilgy vote there, and then voted me at EoD *because* both Wilgy and I were still on Davos. Like there's a gap in reasoning in between, but I don't think it's really alignment indicative?

My interpretation was that leetic saw you as an easy "real person" kill once I moved and could thus leave Davos for Day 8.

Hmm. So you think their last-minute vote swing was opportunistic, because it would give them a better chance of endgaming?

[Epignosis]

I thought leetic's jump on you when I made my 11th hour play against you was super suspicious. Thoughts?

I gave thoughts a couple posts ago. Leetic's PoE was very firmly only Wilgy/me, so I think pointing out that Wilgy and I were both voting Davos as a reason to jump off of Davos and onto me made sense in context.

The one thing that stuck out to me was that earlier, leetic was against voting Davos or at least avoiding the topic, but when arguing with Wilgy they voted Davos in a way that sounded like they were intimidating Wilgy to vote there, too. And that's probably the only thing that didn't make sense to me in Leetic's progression, but I don't know that it's enough to warrant suspicion.

I should clarify: the part that doesn't make sense to me is that leetic thought I was a wolf, then thought Wilgy was a wolf, but followed my vote onto Davos in order to make Wilgy vote there, and then voted me at EoD *because* both Wilgy and I were still on Davos. Like there's a gap in reasoning in between, but I don't think it's really alignment indicative?

My interpretation was that leetic saw you as an easy "real person" kill once I moved and could thus leave Davos for Day 8.

Hmm. So you think their last-minute vote swing was opportunistic, because it would give them a better chance of endgaming?

Precisely.

And I do not understand why leetic chimed in with "Brad was Davos."

There is no evidence whatsoever that I can see with my own two peepers that this specifically is the case.

[WindwardAway]

I thought leetic's jump on you when I made my 11th hour play against you was super suspicious. Thoughts?

I gave thoughts a couple posts ago. Leetic's PoE was very firmly only Wilgy/me, so I think pointing out that Wilgy and I were both voting Davos as a reason to jump off of Davos and onto me made sense in context.

The one thing that stuck out to me was that earlier, leetic was against voting Davos or at least avoiding the topic, but when arguing with Wilgy they voted Davos in a way that sounded like they were intimidating Wilgy to vote there, too. And that's probably the only thing that didn't make sense to me in Leetic's progression, but I don't know that it's enough to warrant suspicion.

I should clarify: the part that doesn't make sense to me is that leetic thought I was a wolf, then thought Wilgy was a wolf, but followed my vote onto Davos in order to make Wilgy vote there, and then voted me at EoD *because* both Wilgy and I were still on Davos. Like there's a gap in reasoning in between, but I don't think it's really alignment indicative?

My interpretation was that leetic saw you as an easy "real person" kill once I moved and could thus leave Davos for Day 8.

Hmm. So you think their last-minute vote swing was opportunistic, because it would give them a better chance of endgaming?

Precisely.

And I do not understand why leetic chimed in with "Brad was Davos."

There is no evidence whatsoever that I can see with my own two peepers that this specifically is the case.

Speaking of which, I'm going to go and check the East Facility to see if Brad and Davos both voted on D1 or not. That's about the only evidence I could think of that might point to that, even though leetic didn't have access to it AFAIK. And if double-voting is a thing then it doesn't mean much.

[WindwardAway]

Ok yeah, Brad never voted. I thought it was just because he was in antispew, though.

[WindwardAway]

Ok yeah, Brad never voted. I thought it was just because he was in antispew, though.

Davos voted Nutella that day. Lol

[Epignosis]

If leetic is caught on Day 8 because of an old fashioned slip in GOC 2024, that's fun shit right there.

[WindwardAway]

If leetic is caught on Day 8 because of an old fashioned slip in GOC 2024, that's fun shit right there.

I'm trying to determine why they'd ever feel the need to mention Brad in the first place if they're a landlord and knew who Davos was, though. Seems like it wouldn't be very well thought out, and I would like to think leetic is more conscientious than that? I mean if they blurt who they believe Davos to be, isn't it more likely it's from town (or Arbiter) who doesn't care if they drop information because they know it doesn't incriminate them?

[WindwardAway]

Idk, maybe it's just because flipped so easily without properly defending himself? But from what I hear, so did pyxxy. Only thing preventing Davos from being pyxxy is that pyxxy wouldn't have had thread view in the East. So I guess I can kinda see a reason there for it to be Brad. But Brad just... flips like that, as scum, even if he doesn't become a stump or control a puppet. I didn't read into his lack of defense more than that.

[WindwardAway]

Idk, maybe it's just because *Brad* flipped so easily without properly defending himself? But from what I hear, so did pyxxy. Only thing preventing Davos from being pyxxy is that pyxxy wouldn't have had thread view in the East. So I guess I can kinda see a reason there for it to be Brad. But Brad just... flips like that, as scum, even if he doesn't become a stump or control a puppet. I didn't read into his lack of defense more than that.

EBWOP

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

[Epignosis]

If leetic is caught on Day 8 because of an old fashioned slip in GOC 2024, that's fun shit right there.

I'm trying to determine why they'd ever feel the need to mention Brad in the first place if they're a landlord and knew who Davos was, though. Seems like it wouldn't be very well thought out, and I would like to think leetic is more conscientious than that? I mean if they blurt who they believe Davos to be, isn't it more likely it's from town (or Arbiter) who doesn't care if they drop information because they know it doesn't incriminate them?

It isn't very well thought out. That's why it's called a "slip."

[WindwardAway]

I swear I come in every day start, thinking I've got a solid lead, and then I just get less and less certain as the day wears on.

[WindwardAway]

Even if Davos really was Brad, though, why wouldn't there be another Landlord in play? Leetic's angle on Wilgy is that Wilgy is an Arbiter and the last wolf.

[Epignosis]

I swear I come in every day start, thinking I've got a solid lead, and then I just get less and less certain as the day wears on.

I have two late-breaking pieces of evidence against leetic:

1) Jumping on you at the 11th hour after I did (as a ruse), and
2) Declaring Brad as the controller of the poppet when there is no evidence that is the case.

Number 2 is stronger than number 1. Together, it's is a red damn flag.

[WindwardAway]

I swear I come in every day start, thinking I've got a solid lead, and then I just get less and less certain as the day wears on.

I have two late-breaking pieces of evidence against leetic:

1) Jumping on you at the 11th hour after I did (as a ruse), and
2) Declaring Brad as the controller of the poppet when there is no evidence that is the case.

Number 2 is stronger than number 1. Together, it's is a red damn flag.

Is there no chance leetic might "slip" that Davos info if they are a townie who found out through some means?

[WindwardAway]

I swear I come in every day start, thinking I've got a solid lead, and then I just get less and less certain as the day wears on.

I have two late-breaking pieces of evidence against leetic:

1) Jumping on you at the 11th hour after I did (as a ruse), and
2) Declaring Brad as the controller of the poppet when there is no evidence that is the case.

Number 2 is stronger than number 1. Together, it's is a red damn flag.

Is there no chance leetic might "slip" that Davos info if they are a townie who found out through some means?

I'm only saying this because I've gotten called out for infoslips as a town investigative. And unfortunately leetic isn't gonna be able to confirm or deny whether they are. But it is a thought that I have.

[Epignosis]

I swear I come in every day start, thinking I've got a solid lead, and then I just get less and less certain as the day wears on.

I have two late-breaking pieces of evidence against leetic:

1) Jumping on you at the 11th hour after I did (as a ruse), and
2) Declaring Brad as the controller of the poppet when there is no evidence that is the case.

Number 2 is stronger than number 1. Together, it's is a red damn flag.

Is there no chance leetic might "slip" that Davos info if they are a townie who found out through some means?

Why here and why now? Is that how that universe reads?

To everyone else: you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us.

Brad being Davos makes enough sense. I do think Wilgy is likely the remaining Arbiter though

[WindwardAway]

I swear I come in every day start, thinking I've got a solid lead, and then I just get less and less certain as the day wears on.

I have two late-breaking pieces of evidence against leetic:

1) Jumping on you at the 11th hour after I did (as a ruse), and
2) Declaring Brad as the controller of the poppet when there is no evidence that is the case.

Number 2 is stronger than number 1. Together, it's is a red damn flag.

Is there no chance leetic might "slip" that Davos info if they are a townie who found out through some means?

Why here and why now? Is that how that universe reads?

To everyone else: you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us.

Brad being Davos makes enough sense. I do think Wilgy is likely the remaining Arbiter though

Maybe leetic privately receives flip info or something, that's what I can think of. Definitely not a rolecop or adjacent.

[Epignosis]

Nope. Still doesn't check out.

leetic said this in RESPONSE to you saying, "you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us."

If leetic has civilian information, then leetic is breaking the rules, but the response doesn't make sense in that context as a reply to you.

I don't think that's the case. I think leetic flat out goofed.

[Epignosis]

Nevertheless, there's still plenty of time for leetic to sort this out as able.

[Epignosis]

I rescind my suspicion. I see my error.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

[Epignosis]

There is no unvote, so [VOTE: Delta] aubergine.

[Epignosis]

Saturdays are hell folks.

[WindwardAway]

Nope. Still doesn't check out.

leetic said this in RESPONSE to you saying, "you should ONLY vote within Wilgy/me today. Davos's flip should confirm to you that the Landlord is on the East side and can only be one of the two of us."

If leetic has civilian information, then leetic is breaking the rules, but the response doesn't make sense in that context as a reply to you.

I don't think that's the case. I think leetic flat out goofed.

I think leetic was just saying that Davos could've taken up a second landlord slot without being a separate player, though. Which I'm not sure I agree with, because then that would be 3 landlords and a puppet, which feels a little off.

[Epignosis]

^Nope, I'm just dumb.