The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:20 pm**

sig wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:
TheFloyd73 wrote:Glorfindel, you appear to have overlooked Sig's speculation around your Day One vote, since you didn't refer to it at all. Do you have anything to say about it?
Hi, Floyd I'm sorry, I have no recollection of Sig's speculation about my Day 1 vote and frankly had I not answered his question about it, I don't doubt for a second that I'd have heard about it. In any case the rationale for my vote on Day 1 was quite clear. I stated very clearly that at the time I voted that I would be unable to return before the EoD due to work commitments and I had to place my vote using my best judgement at the time I made it. At that time despite the relatively small number of votes cast, Zebra was clearly in contention for lynching. I considered her a significant asset to our cause at that time (and still do) and placed my vote accordingly on (from memory) either on the only other (or one of a couple) competing wagons. I hope that satisfactorily explains my motivation Floyd.

Glorfidnel what do you think of Floyd digging this up then not posting anything else?

I did question your Floyd vote, but your response was the same then as it is here.

I know this might sound a little niave but until you mentioned that there, but not a lot... If someone asks me a question, I'll do my best to answer as best as I can and that's what I did there. In isolation, I can see why Floyd asked (assuming she didn't bother to look at the explanation that I made in-thread at the time I voted) me to explain my vote. Looking more broadly however, I agree there is some cause for concern. They've made a total of four posts in what, something like 2K posts? Looking at the nature of those posts gives me cause for suspicion too. Some strange comment about the players on Arkham Night 0 being all bad, a promise to post thoughts around 48 hours ago and nothing of substance to follow - intriguing...

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:21 pm**

Turnip Head wrote:This lynch is such bullshit.

How?

linki: It doesn't sound naive I was just curious as to why you thought he brought it up or what reasons he may have.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:23 pm**

Knock knock.

Who's there?

Bullz

Bullz who?

Bullz, who is making a terrible mistake regardless of his alignment, but I still suspect him less then Scotty (who voted me out of nowhere) and Nero (who simply NOU'd me).

Linki

Knock knock.

Who's there?

sig

sig who?

sig, didja ever get around to ISOing me to see if I was bullshitting on run on sentences?

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:23 pm**

Well I don't think I'm gonna vote Matt but I have to say this might be the most frustrating experience of my mafia career.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:25 pm**

I'm more suspicious of MP right know then Matt, I'm also really not liking Floyd's posts.

For MP I don't like his reasons for voting and I also really don't like some of his posts.

For Mac him accusing BK then doing the same thing is strange, but I don't see how him inflating his post count would make anyone think he is civ. He is a high volume poster as both civ and mafia so I'm unsure about that.

linki: No I haven't Matt I'll do so know. How does everyone feel about an MP lynch?

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:25 pm**

sig wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:This lynch is such bullshit.
How?

linki: It doesn't sound naive I was just curious as to why you thought he brought it up or what reasons he may have.

Look at the votes for Matt and tell me they're made with any sort of discernment. "I don't know what's going on, so let's lynch Matt to find out what's going on" is not a great way to find a baddie.I think Matt is genuine so if he's civ all we're going to find out is he's not lying. That is not actionable info that we can use going forward.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:28 pm**

Voted for MP

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:29 pm**

@TH okay.

@Matt I see what you mean re run on sentences. Right know I'd be fine with a Matt lynch however, I'm not voting yet and am opened to voting elsewhere. I do like Enrique's case against him, and I disliked Matt saying Enrique/Nero are on the same team.

TH/DH who would you rather lynch today?

linki: nevermind DH

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:32 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:Voted for MP

DH, can you walk through your rationale on this?

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:35 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:My suspects thusfar, in no particular order:

SVS - I'm waiting for the shoe to drop on this one where I get accused of always doing this, or whatever, but I can't help legitimately finding the fact that she missed a vote after saying 10 minutes beforehand that she had to vote. Her explanations conflict with each other and don't make sense either. She got wrapped up in the Matt/Zebra conflict? OK ya sure. Except her "Better vote" post was her LAST POST before the 10 minute gap, her post following that was the one wherein she addressed her thoughts on Matt/Zebra. She had 10 minutes. Nobody'll follow me on this suspicion because I "always do this" or somethine lame but there you go. I probably won't vote for SVS today. I also intentionally put her at the top of this list after saying that it was in no particular order but that was only because I thought it was funny.

MP and Mac - For painting Scotty as confirmed civ and running with the Wilgy=Robin theory

Black Rock - TH's case covers this pretty well and it kind of bugs me she never followed through with a readthrough of me in particular because it's not like I'm buffing my post count or posting unnecessarily robust posts.

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:To add to that, if that's the case, then that means Scotty is a confirmed civilian. This is all assuming Wilgy made his rainbow list after the lynch was over... which I'll check now since I can't recall.
Correlation vs. Causation Mr. "Oh look at this terrific insight I came up with despite being hardly able to catch up to the thread lol"

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Re: sig, I get a nervous feeling from some of sig's posts, and I felt like he was dwelling a lot on the "why did Wilgy die?", seemed like unnecessary WIFOM to me. I also think Turnip Head's observation regarding why sig didn't mention the suspicion was an astute point.

Says the guy who's grand entrance into the thread was "What if Wilgy was Robin?"

OK guy

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:38 pm**

I feel like a giant asshole right now
and this is gonna hurt me a lot but it's kinda important
I highly encourage a sig or nerolunar lynch today. NOT MATT.

ffffffff

Don't let his lead get wider. I was wrong.

i cant believe im doing this im so so sorry and would understand if this got me lynched, but i gotta at least try.

Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:39 pm**

Enrique wrote:I feel like a giant asshole right now
and this is gonna hurt me a lot but it's kinda important
I highly encourage a sig or nerolunar lynch today. NOT MATT.

ffffffff

Don't let his lead get wider. I was wrong.

i cant believe im doing this im so so sorry and would understand if this got me lynched, but i gotta at least try.

Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.

Sweet now I have an excuse not to read 9 pages.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:40 pm**

Thanks, didn't mean to make you pull the posts- just refer me to your iso if you've already explained. I'm reading MP right now to see what I see too.

What the heck Enrique? I presume you cant tell us any more about this change of heart. It's ok, I wasn't voting Matt anyway.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:40 pm**

Enrique wrote:I feel like a giant asshole right now
and this is gonna hurt me a lot but it's kinda important
I highly encourage a sig or nerolunar lynch today. NOT MATT.

ffffffff

Don't let his lead get wider. I was wrong.

i cant believe im doing this im so so sorry and would understand if this got me lynched, but i gotta at least try.

Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.

Explain. I just cast my vote

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:41 pm**

juliets wrote:Thanks, didn't mean to make you pull the posts- just refer me to your iso if you've already explained. I'm reading MP right now to see what I see too.

What the heck Enrique? I presume you cant tell us any more about this change of heart. It's ok, I wasn't voting Matt anyway.

I found it easier just to quote the couple of posts I've made on the subject.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:42 pm**

Nerolunar wrote:
Enrique wrote:I feel like a giant asshole right now
and this is gonna hurt me a lot but it's kinda important
I highly encourage a sig or nerolunar lynch today. NOT MATT.

ffffffff

Don't let his lead get wider. I was wrong.

i cant believe im doing this im so so sorry and would understand if this got me lynched, but i gotta at least try.

Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.
Explain. I just cast my vote

THE PLOT SHE IS THICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:42 pm**

Enrique wrote:I feel like a giant asshole right now
and this is gonna hurt me a lot but it's kinda important
I highly encourage a sig or nerolunar lynch today. NOT MATT.

ffffffff

Don't let his lead get wider. I was wrong.

i cant believe im doing this im so so sorry and would understand if this got me lynched, but i gotta at least try.

Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.

Are you kidding me. Why ditch Matt, why even more so say I should get lynched?

@Juliets I found it very suspicious the way he acted in the beginning of the phase when I started to question him.
What about MP, why nero?

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:43 pm**

Enrique wrote: Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.

Are you being forced/cursed to do this?

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:44 pm**

Enrique wrote:I feel like a giant asshole right now
and this is gonna hurt me a lot but it's kinda important
I highly encourage a sig or nerolunar lynch today. NOT MATT.

ffffffff

Don't let his lead get wider. I was wrong.

i cant believe im doing this im so so sorry and would understand if this got me lynched, but i gotta at least try.

Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.

Knock knock.

Who's there?

Derp

Derp who?

Derp a derp, uh okay, yeah what Enrique said

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:45 pm**

Enrique wrote:I feel like a giant asshole right now
and this is gonna hurt me a lot but it's kinda important
I highly encourage a sig or nerolunar lynch today. NOT MATT.

ffffffff

Don't let his lead get wider. I was wrong.

i cant believe im doing this im so so sorry and would understand if this got me lynched, but i gotta at least try.

Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.

Why do we fall, Enrique?

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:45 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:..post will end anticlimactically.

Lol. I am rediculous. Lol. I don't even know where that train of thought was gping....

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:45 pm**

Enrique wrote:I feel like a giant asshole right now
and this is gonna hurt me a lot but it's kinda important
I highly encourage a sig or nerolunar lynch today. NOT MATT.

ffffffff

Don't let his lead get wider. I was wrong.

i cant believe im doing this im so so sorry and would understand if this got me lynched, but i gotta at least try.

Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.

How about instead of a silly panic post you chill and actually explain yourself?

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:47 pm**

Por que nos caemos

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:48 pm**

bea wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:..post will end anticlimactically.

Lol. I am rediculous. Lol. I don't even know where that train of thought was gping....

You forgot

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:52 pm**

Matt wrote:
Dom wrote:
Matt wrote:
bea wrote:I have to spend mafia time driving around the city for product.

Interesting point about BR TH.
Also interesting point about Mac dom.

Lots to think about and little time for posting.
I always worry that my
Knock knock.

Who's there?

Does anybody

Does anybody who?

Does anybody else think "I always worry that my" was supposed to go into a btsc chat instead of here?
How and why
Knock knock.

Who's there?

Well

Well who?

Well it looked like, to me at least, "Lots to think about and little time for posting." was a fitting end to that short post, and in addition, bea hasn't been back to clarify (however, I do acknowledge her work schedule, and whether that last part was supposed to be part of her message OR btsc, it's probable she doesn't have much time to post anyway), but nobody else sees this as a possibility?

It's not. I'm literally sitting in an illegal spot of my supply chain center picking up dough. I have two more stops to make. I believe I was going to say something about worrying about my late-night catch ups re black Rock but saw the time and just didn't back space far enough during my rush. Aaannnnd. Still be hind and time to hit the road....

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:54 pm**

bea wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:..post will end anticlimactically.

Lol. I am rediculous. Lol. I don't even know where that train of thought was gping....

Knock knock.

Who's there?

I

I who?

I suggest you vote me because I don't know if I can get over what I perceive to be a btsc "slip" and will probably move on you as soon as we can get Nero lynched and outta here (but I still love ya, bea!!)

Linki

Knock knock.

Who's there?

Hmmm

Hmmm who?

Hmmm

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:55 pm**

Enrique wrote:I feel like a giant asshole right now
and this is gonna hurt me a lot but it's kinda important
I highly encourage a sig or nerolunar lynch today. NOT MATT.

ffffffff

Don't let his lead get wider. I was wrong.

i cant believe im doing this im so so sorry and would understand if this got me lynched, but i gotta at least try.

Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.

Enrique are you urging us to vote sig or nero just because they have votes or is there something you want to add about their being bad?

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:58 pm**

This game's post-game is going to be fucking surreal lmao

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:05 pm**

Dom wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Knock knock. Who's there? Me. Me who? ME WANT MATT TO STOP POSTING LONGITUDINALLY SO IT IS EASIER TO READ THE 20 FUCKING PAGES I HAVE TO SIFT THROUGH IF I WANT TO MAKE AN EDUCATED VOTE THANKS BYE
Wait 'til you get to the page that's literally just mac padding his post count, as he accused Black Rock of doing.

Fuck this I'm out.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:07 pm**

DH, in MPs quest to get sig lynched he also brought up that he thought sig was saved in the prior lynch. I don't believe the voting supports this nor does it make sense since at the time the baddie teams were only made up of two people. How can one person initiate a save if there aren't others to follow him?

I agree with what you've pointed out as well and this puts MP on the list for me especially if Bass doesn't show up.

linki, Mac I hope that doesnt mean you are leaving the game.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:07 pm**

OK, when I looked in here last night, everyone was screaming Joker! Joker! becasue Matt was speaking in knock knock pokes even though knock knock jokes =/= insanification. I am not going to pretend I am totally caught up after having spent the weekend in bed (and going back there in a few), but I have no clue why anyone thinks Matt is bad.

I am gonna trust him & vote now for Nero just in case I don't make it back,although I probably will.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:08 pm**

This is insane. I don't know if something like Enrique's recent posting is genuine or forced, and it makes me paranoid either way.

I'm barely going to be around before deadline and definitely don't have time to keep up with all of the developments. I feel that it's kind of ironic that I'm in a position where I'm picking between Matt or Nero for my vote given they are in opposition to each other, but my vote comes down to 'do I trust Matt or not'.

I'm hoping to see at least a bit more to help make up my mind before deadline.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:08 pm**

Knock knock.

Who's there?

Can't

Can't who?

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I feel like I'm a goner even if I don't get lynched, and I'd almost feel better if peeps knew my role derp a derp (but that's me being selfish again, and if you're not bad/indy, I strongly suggest you don't vote me)

Linki

Knock knock.

Who's there?

Mac

Mac who?

Mac don't leave, I've been getting the vibe from Dom that he's intentionally being a db because he's bad/indy, so I wouldn't take his crack at you personally.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:09 pm**

Dom wrote:Does no one have any thoughts on Mac's 7 posts in a row (along with several other streaks of more than 3 or 4) and him telling BR to stop padding her post count?

The content of Black Rock's post that I quoted was directly relevant to me and it was about something that had been further addressed. I suggested she catch up before making reads lest someone complain that she is just padding her post count more out of frustration than anything. I also got criticised for it.

I get criticised for everything I do so why should this be anything different.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:10 pm**

@Golden what do you think about MP?

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:10 pm**

Dom wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:How difficult is it to say "Knock Knock, who's there, Methinks. Methinks who? Methinks in regards to MP and Mac painting Scotty as Robin that X is suspicious and Y is not suspicious and Z is true and A is false."
Same with Zebra's post from Thursday/Friday.

It is really weird how saccharine you are to DharmaHelper but so stone cold to everybody else. It's almost like you fear him.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:12 pm**

Oh so now SVS remembers to vote on time

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:14 pm**

Where are your posts harassing all the other people who missed the day one vote? Until I see those, shut the fuck up.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:15 pm**

Enrique I really wish you would explain why we shouldn´t vote for Matt. I already voted for him and it would suck so much if we happened to lynch an innocent person.

Explain please

linki Easy there SVS.

That goes for everyone. Don´t be mean if you don´t have to.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:15 pm**

sig wrote:
Enrique wrote: Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.
Are you being forced/cursed to do this?

No. Somebody said something that led me to read the early game more carefully. Sorry, I don't think I should be more specific than that.

juliets sig because he was my biggest suspect even before this whole thing and if it wasn't for my theory I would've spent today on him, and Nero because Matt seems to think we should (honestly I'm very confused if it was just because of me or what but I'll let him speak for himself). I would want one of them lynched even if they didn't have votes but the fact that they do helps me stress this to the thread. However you vote, please don't widen Matt's lead.

I don't blame the people who voted for Matt already (obviously, I was encouraging them). But seriously tho this was a massive fuck up and I'm glad I realized this with hours still to go.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:16 pm**

Shame on everyone who missed the Day 1 vote. Shame on you. A curse on your families and your cow.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:16 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:Correlation vs. Causation Juliets. I think it drastically reduces the theory that Wilgy was Robin, or at the very least drastically reduces the idea that the mafia figured out he could be Robin and killed him for it. As a result, I don't take any stock in "Scotty must be civ"

Yeah you have a point. I did question whether Wilgy was actually targeted by Two Face who was the one who was hit.

The wording that Wilgy actually used was "would not try to lynch him again". Interesting choice of words.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:18 pm**

Sabie is online. What are your thoughts on the stuff that has happened today?

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:19 pm**

Enrique wrote:
sig wrote:
Enrique wrote: Epignosis/LC you are cruel cruel people.
Are you being forced/cursed to do this?
No. Somebody said something that led me to read the early game more carefully. Sorry, I don't think I should be more specific than that.

juliets sig because he was my biggest suspect even before this whole thing and if it wasn't for my theory I would've spent today on him, and Nero because Matt seems to think we should (honestly I'm very confused if it was just because of me or what but I'll let him speak for himself). I would want one of them lynched even if they didn't have votes but the fact that they do helps me stress this to the thread. However you vote, please don't widen Matt's lead.

I don't blame the people who voted for Matt already (obviously, I was encouraging them). But seriously tho this was a massive fuck up and I'm glad I realized this with hours still to go.

Knock knock.

Who's there?

I

I who?

I'm wondering why you can't be more specific if this is thread related and not some sort of force on you, also LOL at SVS' comment to DH

(and Nero, give it some time, soon you will be cussing out other players too muahahahaha

)

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:20 pm**

15 pages to read? Really? 15+ pages per day is not what I signed up for.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:22 pm**

Matt I think it's better not to be. I could point at what I saw but it wouldn't be beneficial for the town. Just as long as you don't get lynched.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:22 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:15 pages to read? Really? 15+ pages per day is not what I signed up for.

Roughly a half a page per player lmao

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:23 pm**

S~V~S wrote:Where are your posts harassing all the other people who missed the day one vote? Until I see those, shut the fuck up.

So glad this is my last game.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:23 pm**

I see your not going to be more specific nice to know, you've 180 and are know trying to get me lynched. How about this then Enrique build a case on me or Nero? Instead of giving some vague reasoning. I don't believe you at all if you have something then share it especially after spending all phase trying to get Matt lynched. Also views on MP please.

Posted: **Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:24 pm**

Since when did people start thinking it's OK to tell your fellow players to "fuck off" (GoC), "shut the fuck up" (here), or calling people names? I just saw Enrique call Matt "dipshit". Seriously, guys, I know I'm not the MoD, but I am the admin of this site, and I'm severely disappointed how recent games we've seemingly become more and more OK with being crass to each other.

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