The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:59 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:42 pm
Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:36 pm and his recent defense of DDL’s role use
i don't remember reading how you felt about the narrowed down lynch pool. did it make you wary of ddl?

fair points on everyone. i think based on my understanding of daisy's personality, i can gleam how far she would go into inserting anger into a mafia game. what i saw was genuine anger and displeasure that i feel would be near impossible to replicate if she was just messing about with a teammate. i also can't see her bussing mac. his role was a powerful one. she's the one that set mac ahead of nutella; something she didn't have to do to stay consistent in her game play. the bussing, if it occurred, would have happened after mac was in the lead imo.

this is just my take on things. it's called tinfoil because it can be disputed, but i felt like expanding on why daisy is town in my eyes.

I made a post, I think, about DDL, or I may have canceled it. Sometimes, if two or three people just posted about something, all in agreement, and I’m working on a post saying the same thing, I’ll cancel my post. But I’ll look back. Wait, yes, I did. I was commenting on not liking the lynch being directed, but at the same time, I wanted to see a tie. I thought it was funny that I was wishing for a directed lynch (tie), but not liking DDLs directed lynch. I thought it might be another attempt at stalling a lynch to save the remaining mafia. I’ll still look to see if I made any other posts about DDL before adding him to my POE.

I still think Daisy is town, I was just trying to be realistic about her abilities as a wolf. The last time we were mafia together, Death Note, I think, she amazed me. I give her credit for being able to pull off anything.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:03 pm**

[mention]dunya[/mention]

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:15 pm @juliets it’s just that I’d like to see how people react to the possibility of a tie. How many times votes change, etc.
So this sounds very hypocritical, even though I’m in favor of playing around with the voting to help me out with my suspect list, I’m very opposed to the restricted poll. I’m having a difficult time believing there is anything town about that ability.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:05 pm**

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:15 pm juliets it’s just that I’d like to see how people react to the possibility of a tie. How many times votes change, etc.
So this sounds very hypocritical, even though I’m in favor of playing around with the voting to help me out with my suspect list, I’m very opposed to the restricted poll. I’m having a difficult time believing there is anything town about that ability.

i see it now, mata. sorry, i'm not focused on the game anymore. thanks for answering.

link: lol.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:14 pm**

Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:59 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:42 pm
Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:36 pm and his recent defense of DDL’s role use
i don't remember reading how you felt about the narrowed down lynch pool. did it make you wary of ddl?

fair points on everyone. i think based on my understanding of daisy's personality, i can gleam how far she would go into inserting anger into a mafia game. what i saw was genuine anger and displeasure that i feel would be near impossible to replicate if she was just messing about with a teammate. i also can't see her bussing mac. his role was a powerful one. she's the one that set mac ahead of nutella; something she didn't have to do to stay consistent in her game play. the bussing, if it occurred, would have happened after mac was in the lead imo.

this is just my take on things. it's called tinfoil because it can be disputed, but i felt like expanding on why daisy is town in my eyes.
I made a post, I think, about DDL, or I may have canceled it. Sometimes, if two or three people just posted about something, all in agreement, and I’m working on a post saying the same thing, I’ll cancel my post. But I’ll look back. Wait, yes, I did. I was commenting on not liking the lynch being directed, but at the same time, I wanted to see a tie. I thought it was funny that I was wishing for a directed lynch (tie), but not liking DDLs directed lynch. I thought it might be another attempt at stalling a lynch to save the remaining mafia. I’ll still look to see if I made any other posts about DDL before adding him to my POE.

I still think Daisy is town, I was just trying to be realistic about her abilities as a wolf. The last time we were mafia together, Death Note, I think, she amazed me. I give her credit for being able to pull off anything.

Awe shucks. That was the best game I’ve ever played honestly.

But dunya I don’t i sent anger as a fake. If I’m upset, it’s real and probably NAI. I can get upset as mafia or civ. I appreciate that you townread me for that, but i thought I should be clear. All I was less angry than frustrated earlier becauseJack’s argument was ridiculous imo, and ignored the point I favor if an invented reasoning.

However, my vote for Mac did put him in the lead. But a lot of votes came in around the same time so... I don’t expect a solid town read from that.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:18 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:41 pm Seems really boring to just abstain, but I don't see a good way to implement it at this point.
Hit me with it. I want to see what it does.

Why? It could screw up your ability.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:19 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:14 pm
But dunya I don’t i sent anger as a fake. If I’m upset, it’s real and probably NAI. I can get upset as mafia or civ. I appreciate that you townread me for that, but i thought I should be clear. All I was less angry than frustrated earlier becauseJack’s argument was ridiculous imo, and ignored the point I favor if an invented reasoning.

However, my vote for Mac did put him in the lead. But a lot of votes came in around the same time so... I don’t expect a solid town read from that.

of course you can, but i have very little ability to see you get genuinely upset at a teammate's "fake argument" that way lol. that was my point. the anger didn't clear you--the fact it was an interaction with a dead mafioso did.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:20 pm**

anger, frustration. whatever you wanna call it.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:26 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:18 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:41 pm Seems really boring to just abstain, but I don't see a good way to implement it at this point.
Hit me with it. I want to see what it does.
Why? It could screw up your ability.

Really?

I thought it was a post restriction.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:34 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:26 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:18 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:41 pm Seems really boring to just abstain, but I don't see a good way to implement it at this point.
Hit me with it. I want to see what it does.
Why? It could screw up your ability.
Really?

I thought it was a post restriction.

Ok, as long as it's not an overall communication restriction. That's what I was afraid of.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:58 pm**

Leetic, you were here. No post?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:59 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:34 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:26 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:18 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:41 pm Seems really boring to just abstain, but I don't see a good way to implement it at this point.
Hit me with it. I want to see what it does.
Why? It could screw up your ability.
Really?

I thought it was a post restriction.
Ok, as long as it's not an overall communication restriction. That's what I was afraid of.

I don't know, it's not my role

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:00 pm**

sure speedchuck why not. It shouldn't impact your other stuff as far as I know.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:24 pm**

Neato

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:26 pm**

Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:58 pm Leetic, you were here. No post?

leetic was here and had nothing to say? bad news.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:28 pm**

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] sorry if you said this and I missed it but who would you have voted for in the reduced poll and why?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:29 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:26 pm
Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:58 pm Leetic, you were here. No post?
leetic was here and had nothing to say? bad news.

He was here, left for a few minutes, then came back for a few. I don’t like that.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:30 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:28 pm @speedchuck sorry if you said this and I missed it but who would you have voted for in the reduced poll and why?

Leetic

I think he's been the least present? Not a whole lot to go on.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:32 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:19 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:14 pm
But dunya I don’t i sent anger as a fake. If I’m upset, it’s real and probably NAI. I can get upset as mafia or civ. I appreciate that you townread me for that, but i thought I should be clear. All I was less angry than frustrated earlier becauseJack’s argument was ridiculous imo, and ignored the point I favor if an invented reasoning.

However, my vote for Mac did put him in the lead. But a lot of votes came in around the same time so... I don’t expect a solid town read from that.
of course you can, but i have very little ability to see you get genuinely upset at a teammate's "fake argument" that way lol. that was my point. the anger didn't clear you--the fact it was an interaction with a dead mafioso did.

Ah I see what you’re saying.

You’re my tinfoil, lol so that’s why it worries me when you clear me so totally.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:33 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:30 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:28 pm @speedchuck sorry if you said this and I missed it but who would you have voted for in the reduced poll and why?
Leetic

I think he's been the least present? Not a whole lot to go on.

Ok thanks. I didn't like his shooing us away from the low posters. And he's evidently been here but not bothered to post. He may be my next vote.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:33 pm**

i mean, i appreciate all the votes of confidence (and tinfoil), but it isn't helping me die in this game.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:34 pm**

I don’t really think it’s worth making a case out of when someone comes and goes personally. I come ina Nd read without commenting sometimes because I am distracted or just don’t feel like I have something to add. I hope it doesn’t become the norm to be carefully watching when people come and go. We all have lives outside of mafia. And we all play differently.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:34 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:33 pm i mean, i appreciate all the votes of confidence (and tinfoil), but it isn't helping me die in this game.

If I had a NK you’d be dead already.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:36 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:34 pm I don’t really think it’s worth making a case out of when someone comes and goes personally. I come ina Nd read without commenting sometimes because I am distracted or just don’t feel like I have something to add. I hope it doesn’t become the norm to be carefully watching when people come and go. We all have lives outside of mafia. And we all play differently.

Yes but he has offered nothing of substance and I find his presence with no output concerning. If he is reading he knows he is close to the edge so do something, offer reads, defend, something.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:38 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:34 pm I don’t really think it’s worth making a case out of when someone comes and goes personally. I come ina Nd read without commenting sometimes because I am distracted or just don’t feel like I have something to add. I hope it doesn’t become the norm to be carefully watching when people come and go. We all have lives outside of mafia. And we all play differently.

Normally, I don’t look for that either. But it seems to be more important to me with the low posters this game. It might not really matter, I just noticed it and commented.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:39 pm**

I’m not defending leetic. I see no reason to believe he is good. I’m just commenting about a frequent conversation piece in this game that I’m hoping doesn’t become a trend

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:42 pm**

Since I am back to work, I have to extend the Night phase just a bit. Night actions are due by 7pm EST and that is when the phase will end.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:46 pm**

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:47 pm**

This implies that not all of the night actions are in yet?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:52 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:42 pm Since I am back to work, I have to extend the Night phase just a bit. Night actions are due by 7pm EST and that is when the phase will end.

Epi, when do you expect the lynch post to be?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:55 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:52 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:42 pm Since I am back to work, I have to extend the Night phase just a bit. Night actions are due by 7pm EST and that is when the phase will end.
Epi, when do you expect the lynch post to be?

About 7:10 pm EST.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:58 pm**

Thank you Epi! I think I'll nap.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:05 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:52 pm @Kites - why did you go with luna instead of niju in the end? you mentioned "something fishy" about luna, can you explain what that is? i thought you liked luna's take on your read list when she went after you?

yeah i liked that one single post but the other stuff inmentioned weighd more
i was okay with niju lynch too, kinda 50/50 on it. i posted some thoughts about it too i guess

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:13 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:33 pm i do not feel the most confident in kites based on the timing of his mac vote. he hasn't done a whole lot of tinfoiling on anyone. he seems disengaged and curiosity and genuine game solving are both missing in his posts that we saw in FE.

yeah i haven’t been very invested in this game tbh
in fire emblem i struggled with content too but there was game mechanics, open setup roles and shit i mostly speculated and talked about

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:11 pm**

lol, I just went over to the spectator chat for nutella's game and guess who's there posting? leetic!

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:13 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:11 pm lol, I just went over to the spectator chat for nutella's game and guess who's there posting? leetic!

LOL

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:14 pm**

I honestly don't think it's kosher to talk about the "who is online" names down there. Some people are invisible. Some people can see invisibles. I prefer to avoid bringing any of that up in games.

leetic can be bad for various other reasons though.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:14 pm**

Donald Fagen and Walter Becker looked at a jar of Vaseline.

And said "No."

novaselinever has been cut.

Spoiler: show

It is now Day 5. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:15 pm**

nova hit 3k posts :o

link:

thank you for protecting me nova

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:24 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:15 pm nova hit 3k posts :o

link: thank you for protecting me nova

??? I thought your role didn’t need protecting.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:25 pm**

Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:24 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:15 pm nova hit 3k posts :o

link: thank you for protecting me nova
??? I thought your role didn’t need protecting.

eh? what do you mean?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:25 pm**

Dang, I hate to see him go.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:26 pm**

[VOTE: Luna] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:26 pm**

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:26 pm**

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:27 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:26 pm-_-

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:28 pm**

Well would you look at that OP.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:28 pm**

[mention]dunya[/mention]
Didn’t you kind of role claim earlier? And you have asked to be killed several times. Maybe I assumed the wrong role for you?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:29 pm**

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:10 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:09 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:08 pm ugh RIP niju. I wonder if anyone on the poll was bad? Niju did look like a good choice (second to leetic).
lol teammates
lol, not.

anyway I was serious about this.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:32 pm**

Bye Nova. I am voting luna like I said I would if there was a kill this time.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:32 pm**

Lunalee experience at BTSC Night A: Wonderful. Juliets can choose to share Luna gold indeed, fine. Leetic less gold than Luna.

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