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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:01 am
by Scotty
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 10:23 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 8:13 am
AO
To note, I have tranq as a particular role, and then Wilgy as a particular role. I could be very off, but we’re getting to the part of the game where identifying roles will be the key
I have zero desire to do this. Explain why you feel it's important?
The population is thinning, and while the street continues to be as busy as ever, I can identify passersby based on clothing, frequency, voices. Part of the routine comes with knowing the constituents.
In laystreetlights terms, behavior is one thing, but identification will ultimately become our biggest strength. The bad guys are already using it- we must match it. It is a reason I think town lost last game
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:07 am
by Scotty
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 4:33 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 4:23 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 4:16 pm
[VOTE:
Epi] aubergine
Can you make the case or remind me where you made it? I only immediately saw your dubz case.
I'm not completely opposed to that wagon since I was making the push on D2. But to me LC and Epig sort of exist in the same space of being "wolfy," but for different reasons and nothing specifically pairing them with Nicole/Trek
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:05 pm
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 8:53 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 8:39 pm
gims wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 7:06 pm
Pyxxy has no reason to "truly think LC is just busy"
Yes im sure LC is busy, but what about his alignment? What if he is busy but also demotivated given how the game developed against the scum team? Anyway
The LC/pyxxy world is palpable so lets figure that out
No, gims is right, how is it that you can be confident Long Con is town?
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 8:41 pm
gims wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 7:06 pm
Also pyxxy not voting LC for self pres is kind of amazing
It's not. Um, didn't you vote someone else up until the last minute when you were getting wagoned in the Unhinged game?
in a vacuum (of which i have not seen on my streets as that’s an insular object), pyxxy’s defense of LC is probably the most thorough read he’s offered all game within the sphere of his roleplay. That feels notable and over-explainy.
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 9:37 am
I agree with Spurs. No need to speculate about who has which town role.
I still think there's a decent chance of pyxxy being the Ice Cream Man based on Michelle's roleblock.
@Tranq curious what you make of pyxxy’s claim here:
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 1:08 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:33 am
It would be really nice to know if LC is silenced or not as it clarifies if pyxxy or someone else may have been roleblocked
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:22 am
by Scotty
PIYO PIYO
I see Michelle targeted pyxxy N2. Can’t see any hint as to who she targeted N3 before dying, but seeing as there was only one kill and looks like everyone has checked in today (hence no silence) it’s prob a RB on someone not named pyxxy. Wish we could get a feel on who that was.
While I have you and the AO sign is on, why do we town read Jess again? I keep finding her towny based on votes and one or two posts she made relating to dead mafia but curious why everyone else does
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:37 am
by GoSpursGo
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:22 am
PIYO PIYO
I see Michelle targeted pyxxy N2. Can’t see any hint as to who she targeted N3 before dying, but seeing as there was only one kill and looks like everyone has checked in today (hence no silence) it’s prob a RB on someone not named pyxxy. Wish we could get a feel on who that was.
While I have you and the AO sign is on, why do we town read Jess again? I keep finding her towny based on votes and one or two posts she made relating to dead mafia but curious why everyone else does
I don’t really, she’s kind of in that secondary POE zone for me along with leetic and Rondo. The best look for her is that she was early on Trek’s wagon day 2 when there was basically no real pressure on him and then never wavered. You could consider if that was just distancing; I would need to go back and look at her activity that whole day
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:38 am
by gims
So the pyxxy thing
He was either lying abt not being roleblocked, or michelle was redirected
If Michelle was redirected, she didnt silence nor killed anyone so she roleblocked elsewhere
We know Michelle had to roleblock on N2 cause nobody died or was silenced
Is that all correct?
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:41 am
by GoSpursGo
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:38 am
So the pyxxy thing
He was either lying abt not being roleblocked, or michelle was redirected
If Michelle was redirected, she didnt silence nor killed anyone so she roleblocked elsewhere
We know Michelle had to roleblock on N2 cause nobody died or was silenced
Is that all correct?
Yes. It appears that one way or another, her ability resolved as an RB (or on N2 I suppose it could have been redirected to vivax who also died to the NK, though I’m not sure how or why that would have happened)
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:41 am
by gims
If Michelle was redirected, she was redirected away from pyxxy in a spot where she stated her target on N2
That does make sense as scum will try to protect a POE townslot from getting killed and redirect Michelle to a townie. But ofc theyll always redirect Michelle when pyxxy is mafia.
Are those all correct?
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:42 am
by gims
What was michelles n1?
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:43 am
by GoSpursGo
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:42 am
What was michelles n1?
Tranq, who was silenced (though unclear if by her or by some redirection of the mafia silencer)
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:44 am
by GoSpursGo
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:41 am
If Michelle was redirected, she was redirected away from pyxxy in a spot where she stated her target on N2
That does make sense as scum will try to protect a POE townslot from getting killed and redirect Michelle to a townie. But ofc theyll always redirect Michelle when pyxxy is mafia.
Are those all correct?
I don’t believe Michelle clearly stated her target before N2
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:45 am
by gims
I see
I dont think pyxxy needed to lie abt not being roleblocked but it is at least interesting that IC Man never targeted Michelle
Perhaps they used it n1
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:48 am
by gims
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:44 am
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:41 am
If Michelle was redirected, she was redirected away from pyxxy in a spot where she stated her target on N2
That does make sense as scum will try to protect a POE townslot from getting killed and redirect Michelle to a townie. But ofc theyll always redirect Michelle when pyxxy is mafia.
Are those all correct?
I don’t believe Michelle clearly stated her target before N2
Ok thats true, she states her target at the start of d3
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:53 am
by gims
Well
That feels very conjectural re: pyxxy anyway
I agree his overexpainy LC defense is bad tho + LC dropping from the game
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 12:07 pm
by GoSpursGo
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:45 am
I see
I dont think pyxxy needed to lie abt not being roleblocked but it is at least interesting that IC Man never targeted Michelle
Perhaps they used it n1
Hum.
I’m pondering your point about pyxxy
Possible if was used n1 but would’ve had to be redirected to mafia cuz I assume town would have shared
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 1:13 pm
by nutella
man idk about pyxxy and the mech stuff is confusing me
i could probably go leetic at this point i just have no idea
it just isn't epi lol
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 1:34 pm
by Duelist Mirage
Though I am not sure my dō-maru is protection enough to undertake this, especially after all the damage it has already taken, I will ask gims:
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 4:28 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:19 am
I find it unlikely a wolf nutella says she's cool with
"wolf, town, wolf" suggestions? personally
Agreed
My nutella wolf case kinda required leetic to be scum
gims wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:54 pm
we've been clearing nutella on the back of her nicole push on d1, but if leetic is also scum, she was maybe protecting a partner while pushing another partner there
not unlikely and we shouldnt expect scum not to distance
How does this make sense? Why would nutella only push Nicole as a wolf if leetic is yet another wolf? I have already made a case to the contrary. If nutella is one of the treacherous wolves stalking the halls of the court, leetic is even more likely to be town. It's as simple as nutella starting a Nicole wagon with the hopes of it not actually being successful at going through on Nicole there.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 1:46 pm
by gims
Bc leetic was also being pushed by nicole so If that was a s^s interaction shed have to just go ahead and take a stance
While if leetic is town she is flat out bussing Nicole when she had options like leetic
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 1:51 pm
by Duelist Mirage
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 7:35 am
I can go back and look later, but at least when I previously reviewed after the fact it felt very much like the meta case gave pyxxy an “excuse” to self prez after defending LC for so much of the day. Like I weigh his weak reasoning for defending LC in the first place, and that he was trying very hard to vote anywhere but long con, but I still have no idea how he came to the conclusion that long con was “just busy”.
It is possible that he finally decided Long Con wasn't going to show up at all to even vote and that's why pyxxy finally gave in and switched to attempted self-preservation. But it doesn't really match with him having been making the argument that Long Con was just gone before that point. I don't really know how to read it, it's messy. And maybe that makes it more likely town.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:00 pm
by Duelist Mirage
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 8:13 am
AO
To note, I have tranq as a particular role, and then Wilgy as a particular role. I could be very off, but we’re getting to the part of the game where identifying roles will be the key
Have a care about which you speak, Scotty-san. Shogun Ashikaga may find dishonor stemming from them.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:10 pm
by Duelist Mirage
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 9:37 am
I agree with Spurs. No need to speculate about who has which town role.
I still think there's a decent chance of pyxxy being the Ice Cream Man based on Michelle's roleblock.
I think it's more likely that it got redirected to Trekkie, given that you were the only one silenced on D2. Odds do not seem high that you ended up targeted by both the silencer and Michelle, or the silencer and Michelle got redirected elsewhere and blocked someone.
But there's lots of possibilities. Including that it hit a townie who just hasn't said so. I'm not even sure that they should say so, does it really help us when there's so much else unknown? They might not have even been the intended target and in that case, letting mafia know that it went elsewhere might affect something like their kill targeting.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:17 pm
by Duelist Mirage
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:38 am
So the pyxxy thing
He was either lying abt not being roleblocked, or michelle was redirected
If Michelle was redirected, she didnt silence nor killed anyone so she roleblocked elsewhere
We know Michelle had to roleblock on N2 cause nobody died or was silenced
Is that all correct?
I don't even take pyxxy's statement as a real claim, it doesn't seem like the sort of thing you're allowed to seriously post because it's about your role.
And Michelle could have resolved on Long Con as a silence, he never posted. Other than that possibility, yes it had to be a block.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:19 pm
by Tranq
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:07 am
@Tranq curious what you make of pyxxy’s claim here:
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 1:08 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:33 am
It would be really nice to know if LC is silenced or not as it clarifies if pyxxy or someone else may have been roleblocked
It's a lie?

What else is a roleblocked mafia going to say?
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:22 pm
by Tranq
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:10 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 9:37 am
I agree with Spurs. No need to speculate about who has which town role.
I still think there's a decent chance of pyxxy being the Ice Cream Man based on Michelle's roleblock.
I think it's more likely that it got redirected to Trekkie, given that you were the only one silenced on D2. Odds do not seem high that you ended up targeted by both the silencer and Michelle, or the silencer and Michelle got redirected elsewhere and blocked someone.
But there's lots of possibilities. Including that it hit a townie who just hasn't said so. I'm not even sure that they should say so, does it really help us when there's so much else unknown? They might not have even been the intended target and in that case, letting mafia know that it went elsewhere might affect something like their kill targeting.
Who got redirected to Trekkie?
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:28 pm
by Tranq
Mech aside, there is still Trekkie saying "Voting Pyxxy feels lame" and pyxxy's LC posts which i think are the stronger points against him.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:38 pm
by gims
[VOTE:
pyxxy] aubergine
Aleight
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:50 pm
by Duelist Mirage
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 1:46 pm
Bc leetic was also being pushed by nicole so If that was a s^s interaction shed have to just go ahead and take a stance
While if leetic is town she is flat out bussing Nicole when she had options like leetic
Perhaps my kabuto is too tight upon my head but these words do not generate meaning to me. What is 'taking a stance' and why does nutella have to do it? How did she not do it already? How likely do you think it seemed that Nicole would be exiled from court that day based upon nutella's simple comments about leetic and Nicole there?
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:52 pm
by Porscha
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 7:35 am
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 7:25 am
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 7:15 am
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 6:30 am
Pyxxy
Voters: gims, Epignosis, Michelle, Scotty, leetic
pyxxy voters at EOD
when pyxxy is town, I think this is likely to have both of them
I know I'm town, so epig/scotty/leetic
epig/leetic could be a solve
I’m open to the possibility.
Can you explain why pyxxy feels more pure than leetic? Like, clearly I’ve felt leetic has been “scummy” since the beginning of the game, but his frustration feels pretty earned from being a wagon basically every day. pyxxy may “vibe” better, but isn’t in large part due to his bit?
I Felt like pyxxy was legitimately swayed by DM's meta case against LC, while leetic seemed to be pushing pyxxy hard there for no reason other than to shield LC
I can go back and look later, but at least when I previously reviewed after the fact it felt very much like the meta case gave pyxxy an “excuse” to self prez after defending LC for so much of the day. Like I weigh his weak reasoning for defending LC in the first place, and that he was trying very hard to vote anywhere but long con, but I still have no idea how he came to the conclusion that long con was “just busy”.
Maybe I am more empathetic because I had a similar progression, but I also just dont really expect long con to be so lacking in influence and availability due to randing wolf or town. So to me I also assumed the activity was NAI. And when presented with a situation thats similar but long con DID slank, it made it more believable that my initial NAI read may be wrong (even if it did only end up being chance)
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:56 pm
by Duelist Mirage
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:22 pm
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:10 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 9:37 am
I agree with Spurs. No need to speculate about who has which town role.
I still think there's a decent chance of pyxxy being the Ice Cream Man based on Michelle's roleblock.
I think it's more likely that it got redirected to Trekkie, given that you were the only one silenced on D2. Odds do not seem high that you ended up targeted by both the silencer and Michelle, or the silencer and Michelle got redirected elsewhere and blocked someone.
But there's lots of possibilities. Including that it hit a townie who just hasn't said so. I'm not even sure that they should say so, does it really help us when there's so much else unknown? They might not have even been the intended target and in that case, letting mafia know that it went elsewhere might affect something like their kill targeting.
Who got redirected to Trekkie?
You're suggesting the Ice Cream Man could be pyxxy because we haven't seen a vanillaize action so he could have been trying to use that role and gotten blocked by Michelle. I'm saying that we also can't account for the lack of a second silencing from N1 and we KNOW that Silencer has to act, so there's actually a decent chance that the unaccounted for vanillaize action got directed to Trekkie and thus made his silencing action disappear.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:59 pm
by Porscha
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:22 am
PIYO PIYO
I see Michelle targeted pyxxy N2. Can’t see any hint as to who she targeted N3 before dying, but seeing as there was only one kill and looks like everyone has checked in today (hence no silence) it’s prob a RB on someone not named pyxxy. Wish we could get a feel on who that was.
While I have you and the AO sign is on, why do we town read Jess again? I keep finding her towny based on votes and one or two posts she made relating to dead mafia but curious why everyone else does
Thats the same reasons for me lol. Also she went out her way to not push me early when she easily could have
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:00 pm
by Porscha
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:38 am
So the pyxxy thing
He was either lying abt not being roleblocked, or michelle was redirected
If Michelle was redirected, she didnt silence nor killed anyone so she roleblocked elsewhere
We know Michelle had to roleblock on N2 cause nobody died or was silenced
Is that all correct?
To be clear, we cannot verify that long con was never silenced. He didnt post or vote at all
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:01 pm
by Porscha
I guess there is a world where pyxxy wasnt role blocked and michelle got redirected to long con who got silenced
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:02 pm
by gims
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:50 pm
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 1:46 pm
Bc leetic was also being pushed by nicole so If that was a s^s interaction shed have to just go ahead and take a stance
While if leetic is town she is flat out bussing Nicole when she had options like leetic
Perhaps my kabuto is too tight upon my head but these words do not generate meaning to me. What is 'taking a stance' and why does nutella have to do it? How did she not do it already? How likely do you think it seemed that Nicole would be exiled from court that day based upon nutella's simple comments about leetic and Nicole there?
Nicole was pushing leetic
I think some ppl were pushing leetic on d1 as well, I voted there etc
Nutella had leetic as maybe mafia alongside Nicole
When leetics wagon picks up she is like "well how is that wagon so big, cant we just move to Nicole instead"
If leetic is mafia, thats not rly relevant to her alignment cause she is pushing onto a s^s dynamic
If leetic is town, she is being protown for shielding town and pushing mafia
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:03 pm
by Tranq
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:56 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:22 pm
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:10 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 9:37 am
I agree with Spurs. No need to speculate about who has which town role.
I still think there's a decent chance of pyxxy being the Ice Cream Man based on Michelle's roleblock.
I think it's more likely that it got redirected to Trekkie, given that you were the only one silenced on D2. Odds do not seem high that you ended up targeted by both the silencer and Michelle, or the silencer and Michelle got redirected elsewhere and blocked someone.
But there's lots of possibilities. Including that it hit a townie who just hasn't said so. I'm not even sure that they should say so, does it really help us when there's so much else unknown? They might not have even been the intended target and in that case, letting mafia know that it went elsewhere might affect something like their kill targeting.
Who got redirected to Trekkie?
You're suggesting the Ice Cream Man could be pyxxy because we haven't seen a vanillaize action so he could have been trying to use that role and gotten blocked by Michelle. I'm saying that we also can't account for the lack of a second silencing from N1 and we KNOW that Silencer has to act, so there's actually a decent chance that the unaccounted for vanillaize action got directed to Trekkie and thus made his silencing action disappear.
Does it work like that though? Last game when i magikarped Golden on Night 1, he only lost the use of his role at the start of Day 2.
The Ice Cream Man somehow targetting Trekkie on Night 1 doesn't mean he wasn't able to Silence on Night 1.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:08 pm
by Porscha
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 1:34 pm
Though I am not sure my dō-maru is protection enough to undertake this, especially after all the damage it has already taken, I will ask gims:
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 4:28 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:19 am
I find it unlikely a wolf nutella says she's cool with
"wolf, town, wolf" suggestions? personally
Agreed
My nutella wolf case kinda required leetic to be scum
gims wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:54 pm
we've been clearing nutella on the back of her nicole push on d1, but if leetic is also scum, she was maybe protecting a partner while pushing another partner there
not unlikely and we shouldnt expect scum not to distance
How does this make sense? Why would nutella only push Nicole as a wolf if leetic is yet another wolf? I have already made a case to the contrary. If nutella is one of the treacherous wolves stalking the halls of the court, leetic is even more likely to be town. It's as simple as nutella starting a Nicole wagon with the hopes of it not actually being successful at going through on Nicole there.
Yeah my point is nutella is unlikely to day 1 make a pool of 3 with 2 wolf partners in it. Ergo if leetic is town, in that one specific instance, it would give nutella more wolf equity - not less
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:09 pm
by Porscha
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:10 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 9:37 am
I agree with Spurs. No need to speculate about who has which town role.
I still think there's a decent chance of pyxxy being the Ice Cream Man based on Michelle's roleblock.
I think it's more likely that it got redirected to Trekkie, given that you were the only one silenced on D2. Odds do not seem high that you ended up targeted by both the silencer and Michelle, or the silencer and Michelle got redirected elsewhere and blocked someone.
But there's lots of possibilities. Including that it hit a townie who just hasn't said so. I'm not even sure that they should say so, does it really help us when there's so much else unknown? They might not have even been the intended target and in that case, letting mafia know that it went elsewhere might affect something like their kill targeting.
TBF if it was a roleblock specifically - someone may not be aware depending on their role
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:10 pm
by Duelist Mirage
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:00 pm
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:38 am
So the pyxxy thing
He was either lying abt not being roleblocked, or michelle was redirected
If Michelle was redirected, she didnt silence nor killed anyone so she roleblocked elsewhere
We know Michelle had to roleblock on N2 cause nobody died or was silenced
Is that all correct?
To be clear, we cannot verify that long con was never silenced. He didnt post or vote at all
I wonder if that was intentional to give possible cover for where Michelle's action went? Like probably not but if he was really low activity anyway maybe he just sorta doesn't bother and considers that a possible fringe benefit? Eh
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY ONE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:17 pm
by gims
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:43 pm
gims wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 8:53 pm
@jess @nutella @Scotty tell me where to vote
Fine with any of nicole/vivax/leetic I think
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:44 pm
[VOTE:
epi] aubergine
Or this idk
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:45 pm
Huh when did the leetic wagon get so big
Maybe I'm not comfortable with that
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:49 pm
@gims I would prefer going back to nicole over leetic tbh
@Porscha notice how this only really looks clearing for nutella when leetic is town
when leetic is mafia, she was soft defending him a bit before (particularly FROM nicole) and her three people options gave her a 4th which was epig
so. context.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:18 pm
by gims
tbc i do not think nutella is a wolf
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:18 pm
by Tranq
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:01 pm
I guess there is a world where pyxxy wasnt role blocked and michelle got redirected to long con who got silenced
In that world i feel like someone should've said they have been Ice Creamed by now. Or the Ice Cream Man hasn't decided to use their power yet. I guess this is possible.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:20 pm
by gims
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:18 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:01 pm
I guess there is a world where pyxxy wasnt role blocked and michelle got redirected to long con who got silenced
In that world i feel like someone should've said they have been Ice Creamed by now. Or the Ice Cream Man hasn't decided to use their power yet. I guess this is possible.
its a one shot so it couldve been used on n1 by someone who is now a dead townie or smt
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:20 pm
by gims
well tbh
if im on a 5 player scumteam im using ice cream on n1, particularly if my slot looks flippable, so its not farfetched that this happened
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:21 pm
by gims
and then town has TWO redirects which might have given ice cream to another mafia
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:30 pm
by Duelist Mirage
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:02 pm
Nicole was pushing leetic
I think some ppl were pushing leetic on d1 as well, I voted there etc
Nutella had leetic as maybe mafia alongside Nicole
When leetics wagon picks up she is like "well how is that wagon so big, cant we just move to Nicole instead"
If leetic is mafia, thats not rly relevant to her alignment cause she is pushing onto a s^s dynamic
If leetic is town, she is being protown for shielding town and pushing mafia
I don't think I'd really say Nicole was "pushing leetic", she made like one comment about not liking a post then said she
could vote there but didn't do so for no discernable reason, then made an invalid show of voting leetic at EoD.
"being protown" is not a thing that makes people definitively not mafia ever, like I said, does nutella actually expect Nicole to go over from her comment saying "hey I'd prefer going back to Nicole"? She isn't even the one who actually voted first. Nicole was probably not expected to be endgaming, why would nutella definitely not take a chance to do some distancing there, with it seeming reasonably likely that leetic goes over D1? Is it the most likely thing to do? Probably not, but I don't find it absurd to even think about.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:32 pm
by GoSpursGo
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 2:19 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 11:07 am
@Tranq curious what you make of pyxxy’s claim here:
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 1:08 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:33 am
It would be really nice to know if LC is silenced or not as it clarifies if pyxxy or someone else may have been roleblocked
It's a lie?

What else is a roleblocked mafia going to say?
It was my original interpretation as well, but I’m realizing he could have been saying something else specific. If they were, they’re probably town but it’s not something verifiable
I’m more of a donkey Kong than Funky Kong. It’s why when these discussions turn to mech I defer to others more suited to solving that.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:34 pm
by Duelist Mirage
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:21 pm
and then town has TWO redirects which might have given ice cream to another mafia
Or even the bus driver could cause that, they don't know where their targets are going to be targeting
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:37 pm
by GoSpursGo
I wonder if I’ve roleplayed 10 times yet. I am but a simple man, like Mario, I just want to do good and have good outcomes for the good guys
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:38 pm
by gims
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:30 pm
I don't think I'd really say Nicole was "pushing leetic", she made like one comment about not liking a post then said she could vote there but didn't do so for no discernable reason, then made an invalid show of voting leetic at EoD.
"being protown" is not a thing that makes people definitively not mafia ever, like I said, does nutella actually expect Nicole to go over from her comment saying "hey I'd prefer going back to Nicole"? She isn't even the one who actually voted first. Nicole was probably not expected to be endgaming, why would nutella definitely not take a chance to do some distancing there, with it seeming reasonably likely that leetic goes over D1? Is it the most likely thing to do? Probably not, but I don't find it absurd to even think about.
nicole had like a single push on d1 and it was leetic
nutella should expect nicole to perhaps go over when I'm literally asking her 'so who are we voting' and she eventually shields leetic and says thats who she wants instead. I mean, thats what happened in the end.
nutella had no reason to keep shielding leetic nor reason to fuel nicole unless she was using that for leverage later on, and considering nutella is playing like a potato throughout to the point people suspect her, I don't know that I see that as a ploy
again I don't think nutella is scum either way but I see more worlds where she is scum if leetic/nicole were already trying distancing plays. when leetic is town, I think she was just town and having correct leans.
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:39 pm
by gims
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:34 pm
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:21 pm
and then town has TWO redirects which might have given ice cream to another mafia
Or even the bus driver could cause that, they don't know where their targets are going to be targeting
right
so yeah this will lead to a dead end re: pyxxy but I'll still flip pyxxy as my POE is pretty tight and other than leetic I have no good ideas
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:41 pm
by GoSpursGo
Btw, this week is one of the weeks where I’m in the hospital rather than the lab. So I’ll do my best like Slippy Toad to serve in a supporting role, but I look to gims and DM to be the Star Fox and Falco in this scenario
Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY ONE]
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 4:06 pm
by Porscha
gims wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 3:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:43 pm
gims wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 8:53 pm
@jess @nutella @Scotty tell me where to vote
Fine with any of nicole/vivax/leetic I think
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:44 pm
[VOTE:
epi] aubergine
Or this idk
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:45 pm
Huh when did the leetic wagon get so big
Maybe I'm not comfortable with that
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:49 pm
@gims I would prefer going back to nicole over leetic tbh
@Porscha notice how this only really looks clearing for nutella when leetic is town
when leetic is mafia, she was soft defending him a bit before (particularly FROM nicole) and her three people options gave her a 4th which was epig
so. context.
Idk i guess. Just sounds like a lot of unnecessary wolf on wolf violence for a day 1