The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:54 pm**

Ricochet wrote:Wait, I have to catch up on what Golden is trying to make us do.

I'm not trying to make anyone do anything, I want to be very clear about that.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:56 pm**

Bullzeye wrote:I wonder how many people will 'forget' to remove their votes from me and then blame Golden for my death...

I offered you a solution to that, and specifically asked you how you would feel about it. You have so far ignored it. You seem to want to play martyr, to me.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:58 pm**

Golden wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I wonder how many people will 'forget' to remove their votes from me and then blame Golden for my death...
I offered you a solution to that, and specifically asked you how you would feel about it. You have so far ignored it. You seem to want to play martyr, to me.

I didn't see this offer. I certainly don't want to be a martyr.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:03 pm**

I must say, I'm confused about the speculation surrounding me.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:03 pm**

Hey folks, let's not forget these:

MovingPictures07 wrote: 4. No role outing of yourself or anyone else. This includes all statements of fact that any player may see and thereafter deduct your or someone else's role, such as "I am Making Flippy Floppy", "Sloonei is Psycho Killer", etc. This game is open setup and incompatible with role outing, thus making it not fun when players engage in it. Absolutely don't do it.
5. No dumping information you received from the Host (whether role-related or not) into the thread. This includes statements that more often are seen as implications, rather than statements of fact (role outing). An example would be declaring that "I have reasons to believe Sloonei is Psycho Killer" without elaborating. If you suspect someone to be a certain role or alignment, use in-thread reasons to back up your assertion or speculation, even if your reasons are sourced from information you gained outside of the thread. If you are unsure if what you are about to say constitutes info dumping, please PM the hosts first before making the post. If you fail to do this and your post does violate information dumping, then you and your faction will be punished.

I realize there has been a situation that has prompted a discussion, and nothing has firmly crossed the line, but we've had recent discussion that is increasingly tiptoeing that line, so I wanted to remind everyone. Don't forget that regardless of whether the information being dumped or role outed is true or not, the perception of such is just as bad.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:11 pm**

Strawhenge wrote:Also placing my vote on Sorsha until I find someone more suspicious.

What exactly makes her suspicious?

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:12 pm**

Matt F wrote:Choutas - I see on Day 2, Choutas was the first to vote for Long Con on the day he was lynched. It's late and I have 20+ players left to go...based on this, overall gut check - CIVVIE

He was actually the second, behind me but I swapped off Long Con for a bit. It was an unexplained vote too which I'm still curious about although its so far in the past i might be beating-off a dead horse. Just want to know if it makes a difference to your read at all?

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:14 pm**

TheFloyd73 wrote:I must say, I'm confused about the speculation surrounding me.

You're participating in the game by placing votes, but not really by involving yourself in the thread. Why have you voted for Elohcin?

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:15 pm**

No probs bullz. I know it's annoying when people say you 'ignored' something you just didn't see. Even though I think you are bad, it would not be fair to you (or anyone else in the same situation) if a gambit was used to 'accidentally' lynch you. I would be incredibly suspicious of anyone who claimed to vote you for reasons other than suspecting you and then didn't change their vote.

@MP - for clarification. If people are speculating as to a person's role (correctly or incorrectly) based on things that have happened in the thread in the game, that is completely legitimate, yes?

@floyd - some people suspect you because they think you voting makes you look like you know more than you are letting on. I happen not to agree, though.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:16 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
TheFloyd73 wrote:I must say, I'm confused about the speculation surrounding me.
You're participating in the game by placing votes, but not really by involving yourself in the thread. Why have you voted for Elohcin?

I don't know, I can see it in their eyes (or rather... Text).
My lack of posts is from mental shit going on

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:17 pm**

To clarify:

I am currently mulling over whether recent events constitute too much tiptoeing or whether it is fully legitimate.

I'll be back with a final decision at a later time.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:18 pm**

TheFloyd73 wrote:
Strawhenge wrote:Also placing my vote on Sorsha until I find someone more suspicious.
What exactly makes her suspicious?

Here's some light reading:

Strawhenge wrote:Sorsha ★ Basement
Spoiler: show
1. Everything in my last read on her still sticks for me. Refer to that if you need to.

2. ...And then there's not much else, is there? Bit of skepticism about the Rico vote, and of JJJ, including some more suspicion of Golden, and, later, a halfhearted pledge to vote for Golden again.

I don't want to get on somebody's case for having a busy real life, since I have one too, so maybe that's the only factor. But my rating for Sorsha doesn't change.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:20 pm**

Strawhenge wrote:
TheFloyd73 wrote:
Strawhenge wrote:Also placing my vote on Sorsha until I find someone more suspicious.
What exactly makes her suspicious?
Here's some light reading:

Strawhenge wrote:Sorsha ★ Basement
Spoiler: show
1. Everything in my last read on her still sticks for me. Refer to that if you need to.

2. ...And then there's not much else, is there? Bit of skepticism about the Rico vote, and of JJJ, including some more suspicion of Golden, and, later, a halfhearted pledge to vote for Golden again.

I don't want to get on somebody's case for having a busy real life, since I have one too, so maybe that's the only factor. But my rating for Sorsha doesn't change.

Ah

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:52 pm**

Floyd, I have a question. How much of the game have you read?

And, to others, Floyd is not a replacement, correct?

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:55 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Just placed a vote on RUNDONTWALK then decided to move it to METALMARSH89.

Both of you should treat the vote as current.

I hate you.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:56 pm**

RadicalFuzz wrote:Floyd, I have a question. How much of the game have you read?

Do you mean the thread text?

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:01 pm**

Yes, Floyd, how much of the thread text have you read?

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:03 pm**

And I deserve to die...

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:10 pm**

RadicalFuzz wrote:Yes, Floyd, how much of the thread text have you read?

A decent amount, I've had heavy stuff going on in my life.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:14 pm**

Sorry to hear life has been dealing you some bad hands. Hope your situation improves.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:15 pm**

TheFloyd73 wrote:
RadicalFuzz wrote:Yes, Floyd, how much of the thread text have you read?
A decent amount, I've had heavy stuff going on in my life.

I hope everything turns out peachy keen, mate. We appreciate you trying your best to play with us despite the circumstances.

I think you'll find that many players will always find it suspicious when someone is not posting very much while voting on time each day. That indicates that you are at least staying attentive to the game's existence without involving yourself in the discussions that generate pressure. I know this is your first Mafia game though, and it has taken off at a torrent pace that must be difficult to keep up with.

Please understand that we all need to have a way to read what your alignment is. At the moment you're sort of a coin flip, there's just not enough information to make any fair judgments about you. You're doing better today though, and if you keep that up then that'd be awesome.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:16 pm**

Thank you, I appreciate that

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:16 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Just placed a vote on RUNDONTWALK then decided to move it to METALMARSH89.

Both of you should treat the vote as current.
I hate you.

Should I vote for someone else?

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:23 pm**

Bullzeye wrote:
bcornett24 wrote: Likely Scum
Bullzeye

Because Golden said so?

Golden does not formulate my opinions, the rainbow was my reaction to you based on reading the thread. The fact that you ended up where you did, mean I need to go through and do some analyzing of your content which, I will be doing shortly.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:24 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:And I deserve to die...

I thought you did die!

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:26 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Just placed a vote on RUNDONTWALK then decided to move it to METALMARSH89.

Both of you should treat the vote as current.
I hate you.
Should I vote for someone else?

Jimmy is Floyd! Let's get him!

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:55 pm**

Anyone wanna lynch Mac with me?

Also, #freemarmot

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:56 pm**

Mac is in my green reads on my rainbow list, which I should really do one of.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:00 pm**

Mac was possibly the best-looking in my LC interaction checks. Not lynching him.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:05 pm**

@ Rico - Your summary post of LC interactions was amazing. You must take very detailed notes as you read the thread. Anyway, I don;t have much to add that hasn't already been said, but I felt you deserved to be commended for your work.

linki: I will not be voting Mac anytime soon, I see him as civ as well.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:15 pm**

Matt F wrote:
bcornett24 wrote:
Matt F wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
bcornett24 wrote:Bullzeye
Diiny - something is off went from a
Sorsha - seems like scum but it also feels like she is being setup (this is a gut feeling)

Please finish your comment on Diiny.

I'm also curious how your read of Sorsha can be explained. Why does she seem like scum, and conversely why does it feel like a setup? That's an extremely important distinction and I think you need to pick a side immediately.
What he said about Sorsha.

So nobody else thinks it's odd about Devin not mentioning or speaking with EITHER of his CEO picks?

@ Roxy's vote
Has he given opinions on either player at any point of time within the entire thread?
I read him last night, and if I'm correct, he has not mentioned them, he has not spoken with them, NOTHING.

He actually hasn't mentioned much of anything.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:
rundontwalk wrote:Devin the Omniscient

you should have seen this coming
Yours is possibly the first vote on me to every make me a little upset. How could I have possibly seen your vote coming? I don't know you and I don't know why you're voting for me. Explain now, please.

I saw this coming from a mile a way.

Devin the Omniscient

I have an actual reason though for voting for you. Admittedly, my content has been relatively useless up to this point, as I have just caught up reading all this stuff, you on the other hand have 50+ posts and almost all of it is nothing. This I find to be scummy as f...

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:17 pm**

bcornett, now that you've "just caught up", would you kindly answer the question I've asked you multiple times? Why do you find Wilgy to be "probably scum"?

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:28 pm**

RadicalFuzz wrote:bcornett, now that you've "just caught up", would you kindly answer the question I've asked you multiple times? Why do you find Wilgy to be "probably scum"?

Chill

, I'm working on everything, one post at a time, from where I left for work which is on page 52 right now. I think your question was next or the one after.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:33 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:To clarify:

I am currently mulling over whether recent events constitute too much tiptoeing or whether it is fully legitimate.

I'll be back with a final decision at a later time.

This has been decided.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:33 pm**

Can I just die already? I deserve it.

Also, I'm still catching up, because there's oodles of stuff to catch up on. You guys post aloe.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:40 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:You guys post aloe.

It's so seldom I get to catch other people in typos

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:55 pm**

RadicalFuzz wrote:bcornett, I know you're finishing your post right now, but I have a question after you're completed. Why do you have Wilgy as "possibly scum?"

I also disagree with you on your suspicion of J3, at least regarding post count. Having more posts to analyze is always a good thing. It can definitely be tricky because there's so much information, yes, but you have that player's opinions and analyses on essentially everything.

For me, his suspicion is his massive amount of filler content, of the ~40 posts he has maybe ten with actual content, and nothing that is overly useful for making a read. Not until most recently with this post did I really find anything useful. This analysis is really in depth.

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote:~AceofSpaces: TheFloyd73 (4) 3%

~bcornett24: FZ. (19), Sorsha (21), Epignosis (26), bea (27), Golden (36), Long Con (38) 16%

~Devin the Omniscient: rundontwalk (7) 3%

~Diiny: Devin the Omniscient (6), thellama73 (24) 5%

~DrWilgy: Ricochet (23) 3%

~JaggedJimmyJay: Rbzmncaeaei (37) 3%

~Long Con: Choutas (12), sig (16), seaside (17), DrWilgy (18), motel room (31), bcornett24 (32),
JaggedJimmyJay (34), Russtifinko (35) 21%

~Matt F: Roxy (15) 3%

~Metalmarsh89: Bullzeye (20) 3%

~seaside: Metalmarsh89 (2), Strawhenge (10) 5%

~Sorsha: Matt F (25), Elohcin (33) 5%

~thellama73: MacDougall (13), Diiny (28), espers (30) 8%

<<<~~~~~>>>
Start: Votes required to 50% kill LC (3) { (brackets represent killing point)
MM puts Seaside at 1 *marker(2)*
-Where has MM been since?
-Votes to kill LC +1 (4)

Floyd ties it with AceofSpaces at 1 *marker(4)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +4

Devin ties it with Diiny at 1 *marker(6)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +4

RDW ties it with Devin at 1 *marker(7)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +4

Strawhenge gives seaside the lead at 2 *marker(10)*
-Votes to kill LC +1 (5)

Choutas is the 1st of final votes on LC *marker(12)*
-Votes to kill LC -1 (4)

MacDougall votes Llama *marker(13)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +4
Roxy votes Matt F *marker(15)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +4

Sig Seaside and DrWilgy give LC lead at 4 *marker(16,17,18)*
-Votes to kill LC -3 (1)

First vote for bcornett by FZ *marker(19)*,
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Bullzeye first vote for MM *marker(20)*,
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Sorsha for bcornett *marker(21)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Rico on me for 1 *marker(23)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Llama on Diiny *marker(24)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Matt F on Sorsha *marker(25)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +1

Epi and Bea on bcornett *marker(26, 27)*
-Votes to kill LC +2 (3)

Dinny and Espers on llama *marker(28, 30)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +3

Motel room and cornett on LC *marker(31, 32)*
-Votes to kill LC -2 (1)

Elohcin on Sorsha *marker(33)*
-LC is currently at a safe spot with +3

JJJ and Russ on LC *marker(34,35)*
-Votes to kill LC -2 (-1)
}
LC is no longer safe

Golden on Cornett *marker(36)* {
-Votes to kill LC +1 (0)

Zebra DOESN’T save LC at *(37)*
-LC is in danger at 0

LC tries to save himself… } End

Now, I created a point system to analyze this based upon my personal scumtells:

Increasing LC's survival number gets 1 scumpoint
Leaving LC on a + number without affecting it gets 2 scumpoints
Increasing LC's survival number from -1 to 0 gets 3 scumpoints
Increasing LC's survival number from 0 to 1 gets 4 scumpoints

leaving LC's survival number on 0 gets no points

Decreasing LC's survival number by 1 gets -1 scumpoint
Leaving LC on a - number without affecting it gets -2 scumpoints
decreasing LC's survival number from 1 to 0 gets -3 scumpoints
decreasing LC's survival number from 0 to -1 gets -4 scumpoints

Points are multiplied by a value determined by their timing, or marker number, here's the key:
Marker 0-5 = *1
Marker 5-15 = *2
Marker 15-25 = *3
Marker 25-35 = *4
Marker 35+ = *5
(greater value is non-inclusive, i.e. marker 5 would be ruled as *2)

Final scumpoint values without organization:
MM: 1
Floyd: 2
Devin: 4
RDW: 4
Strawhenge: 2
Choutas: -2
MacDougall: 4
Roxy: 6
Sig: -3
Seaside: -3
DrWilgy: -3
FZ: 6
Bullzeye: 6
Sorsha: 6
Rico: 6
Llama: 6
Matt F: 8
Epi: 4
Bea: 4
Dinny: 8
Espers: 8
Motel Room: -4
Bcornett: -4
Elohchin: 8
JJJ: -12
Russ: -20
Golden: 15
Zebra: 0

Now organized with color:
Russ -20
JJJ -12
Bcornett -4
Motel Room -4
DrWilgy -3
Sig -3
Seaside -3
Choutas -2
Zebra 0
MM 1
Floyd 2
Strawhenge 2
Devin 4
RDW 4
MacDougall 4
bea 4
Epi 4
Roxy 6
FZ 6
Bullzeye 6
Sorsha 6
Rico 6
Llama 6
Matt F 8
Dinny 8
Espers 8
Elohchin 8
Golden 15
Vote changed to Golden

I'm going to bed now... that took me afew hours...

There are like 5 comments were gives people hugs. I tend to have an issue with seeing 1/8th of a persons content being "/hug". I think it makes him suspicious and would probably place him on the lighter side of orange in a revised rainbow.

I will also say I understand how difficult it is to catch up, this thread is massive and has so much content, and it keeps generating more. A lot to remember, and even more to comprehend.

As I previously stated what I gave earlier was mostly gut reads, working on analysis, diiny is up next.

With regard to JJJ:

I agree, having more posts is generally better, but this is not to say that it could not be potentially used to dissuade reads. I am not saying that JJJ is doing this, I am saying that it is possible that he could be. Strategically speaking, it is a great idea, have so many posts that nobody wants to analyze it. I mean he has 7 pages of 50 posts, this is almost 300 posts and it is only day 4.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:09 pm**

I thought I'd take a look at DrWilgy, whose name I thought was DrWigly, so whose name shall be DrWigly henceforth.

DrWigly (you probably hate that oh my god i'm sorry i just) ★★★½ Facility

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:10 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Can I just die already? I deserve it.

That's the second time you've said this. Por quoi?

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:13 pm**

I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:26 pm**

bcornett24 wrote:
There are like 5 comments were gives people hugs. I tend to have an issue with seeing 1/8th of a persons content being "/hug". I think it makes him suspicious and would probably place him on the lighter side of orange in a revised rainbow.

I will also say I understand how difficult it is to catch up, this thread is massive and has so much content, and it keeps generating more. A lot to remember, and even more to comprehend.

As I previously stated what I gave earlier was mostly gut reads, working on analysis, diiny is up next.

With regard to JJJ:

I agree, having more posts is generally better, but this is not to say that it could not be potentially used to dissuade reads. I am not saying that JJJ is doing this, I am saying that it is possible that he could be. Strategically speaking, it is a great idea, have so many posts that nobody wants to analyze it. I mean he has 7 pages of 50 posts, this is almost 300 posts and it is only day 4.

His quirks in posting don't invalidate his other points. Do you legitimately have a problem with 7/8ths of his contribution just because the other 1/8ths is silly?

That relies on our laziness, and especially in such a large game, is an extremely risky gambit. I'm not saying that posting frequently makes him look good, just that it doesn't make him look bad. Strategically speaking it's a horrible idea, giving the opposing team more evidence to work with when information is our greatest asset.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:43 pm**

Simply because I saw his name on this very page of Mafia, I want to take a closer look at the marmot.

Metal Marsh LXXXIX Unrated

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:46 pm**

Strawhenge wrote: 2½. Lives in Eugene. Lynch the hippie!

In turn I invite any sort of rallying for my immediate lynching for being a hipster. It's okay. I deserve it.

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:30 pm**

MacDougall wrote:I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

Not tunneling, just asking and pointing out things of importance. Luv ya bruh <3

Ok then, lets set up a chain of events, based on Sorsha crumbs.

When Sorsha flips baddie, who would you vote the following day?

When Sorsha flips civ, who would you vote the following day?

Generating rainbow lists for both if Sorsha is bad or civ would be a good thing as well... Maybe abit much to ask for though.

Bcornett are you bad?

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:38 pm**

MacDougall wrote:I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.

Explain how me flipping civ is going to help anything?

Posted: **Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:46 pm**

MacDougall griveous went from greeniest infliction decompound decompound braaiiiinssss... to a officialism suspect sliky anaemia single post.

Posted: **Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:04 am**

Sorsha wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.
Explain how me flipping civ is going to help anything?

How does flipping town help? What will it reveal?

Posted: **Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:06 am**

bcornett24 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I think we really have to lynch sorsha. I feel like it's the key to breaking the game open today. She either flips scum and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail, or flips town and leaves behind a tasty breadcrumb trail. Trusting Golden again seems like a nice way to get another townie killed. We've got a scum dead inside the first four days in a large game. We can afford a tactical lynch. Sorsha is a good lynch candidate for up front scum play as well as being the best possible lynch from a tactical perspective. Short of someone saying "I am scum" my vote won't be changing today.

Sorsha's play being scum is well documented, you only have to look at her recent posts to get a sense of posting nervously as scum playing poorly with a lynch on them tend to do.

DrWilgy... Are you tunneling me because I said you were scum in that Jimmy's game? Oh my God, u suck brah.
Explain how me flipping civ is going to help anything?
How does flipping town help? What will it reveal?

That's what I'm asking him. What knowledge does he think he is going to be graced with when I flip town?

Posted: **Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:10 am**

....also changed my vote from bullz to Devin

Posted: **Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:24 am**

RadicalFuzz wrote:
bcornett24 wrote:
There are like 5 comments were gives people hugs. I tend to have an issue with seeing 1/8th of a persons content being "/hug". I think it makes him suspicious and would probably place him on the lighter side of orange in a revised rainbow.

I will also say I understand how difficult it is to catch up, this thread is massive and has so much content, and it keeps generating more. A lot to remember, and even more to comprehend.

As I previously stated what I gave earlier was mostly gut reads, working on analysis, diiny is up next.

With regard to JJJ:

I agree, having more posts is generally better, but this is not to say that it could not be potentially used to dissuade reads. I am not saying that JJJ is doing this, I am saying that it is possible that he could be. Strategically speaking, it is a great idea, have so many posts that nobody wants to analyze it. I mean he has 7 pages of 50 posts, this is almost 300 posts and it is only day 4.
His quirks in posting don't invalidate his other points. Do you legitimately have a problem with 7/8ths of his contribution just because the other 1/8ths is silly?

That relies on our laziness, and especially in such a large game, is an extremely risky gambit. I'm not saying that posting frequently makes him look good, just that it doesn't make him look bad. Strategically speaking it's a horrible idea, giving the opposing team more evidence to work with when information is our greatest asset.

I should have been more specific, 1/8th is hugs while another 3-4/8th if not more appears to be filler content in my opinion. I see a lot of off handed comments that don't really contribute in anyway.

I quite well understand this, and I doubt jay would be so careless, I've played all 5 games thus far with jay I don't think he has failed to break 200 posts in any of those threads. I remember that several were 500+ posts. I do agree with you though, more info is of course an asset. I just think in specific context to jay the amount of posts will need to be gone through and it will take considerable effort to do so. Whenever I see people latching on quickly to his statements, I become worried as he often appears to be one of the towniest players. I will also state that I have never played with scum jay. Because of the neutral-esque tone of his posts I assume it would be rather difficult to tell the difference.

@JJJ - What do you think Jay, how accurate is this?

I am more worried about people contributing only barely what they need to, even though they may be frequenting the thread such as RDW. His normal strategy is to go balls to the wall at several people to watch them squirm and then see what happens, his out of element behavior is bothersome. Or people I think are providing filler content. It is also harder to assess behavior compared to norms as I do not know well a bit over half of the players participating.

The Syndicate

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