Epignosis wrote:I don't understand the certainty surrounding birdwithteeth.
If you lynch birdwithteeth, and he's good, you done fucked up real good.
What do you think about BWT?
No clear opinion except that people like lynching him for some reason. One thing I believe that is a point in his favor is that he is posting as he catches up. That's hard to do if you are bad. Look at the machine gun nature of his posts when he was around.
A more specific question then - do you approve of a BWT lynch?
No. I don't think I do.
Another point in his favor is that even if he is bad, he's probably not the one doing the killing. His last post was Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:05 pm EST. That's five days.
Once again it's falling into the thinking of "I want to lynch him because he isn't doing what I want him to do" (i.e., post more and explain some things).
But if he isn't around, he isn't going to do what people want.
I've been screaming against terrible lynches this whole time. This feels like another one. Maybe I'm finally wrong, but I don't think I am.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
If birdwithteeth is a civilian with momentum against him, a solid mafia strategy would be to cast doubt on the 3J business, lynch bird, and then lament that we should have lynched 3J after all, oh gosh look he killed again come on lets get him
Epignosis wrote:And you still trust MM after it was clear he survived a lynch...adding to that the fact that a Night was skipped? One civilian role already skips a night by blocking all actions. Now there's a second night passed.
Do you still think it's reasonable that MM survived a lynch for a good reason?
I could get behind an MM vote. I am still wary of a BWT vote. He now seems like he disappeared, which is different from faking a silence--so we can hope for a replacement. I have questions about him, but I don't see him as a slam dunk like others seem to.
Epignosis wrote:If birdwithteeth is a civilian with momentum against him, a solid mafia strategy would be to cast doubt on the 3J business, lynch bird, and then lament that we should have lynched 3J after all, oh gosh look he killed again come on lets get him
Lorab, what's your opinion of that strategy?
That would be solid baddie strategy. But I can only speculate as to how the baddies are strategizing.
Personally, I don't think either are the right lynch. I have doubts about either. If it's a choice between the 2 of them, I think 3J is the better choice to lynch.
Epignosis wrote:And you still trust MM after it was clear he survived a lynch...adding to that the fact that a Night was skipped? One civilian role already skips a night by blocking all actions. Now there's a second night passed.
Do you still think it's reasonable that MM survived a lynch for a good reason?
Sorry, I missed this earlier, I'm assuming it was to me, and yes, I think I do.
I don't like G-Man questioning where he stood when he subbed in in terms of MP's reputation. Civ-minded folk don't care about that.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Epignosis wrote:And you still trust MM after it was clear he survived a lynch...adding to that the fact that a Night was skipped? One civilian role already skips a night by blocking all actions. Now there's a second night passed.
Do you still think it's reasonable that MM survived a lynch for a good reason?
Sorry, I missed this earlier, I'm assuming it was to me, and yes, I think I do.
Put a vote on MM for now. Mainly because I don't want to miss the vote, and I'm in the middle of dying my hair (oy, tht sounds so lame). I also don't think that's a bad place for the lynch to go. and, as I've said, I have doubts about the vote getters. 3J seems too obvious. BWT I have too many doubts about and I would like to see him replaced not lynched.
I also think good points have been brought up about GMan.
if BWT hasn't posted since Monday and isn't doing the killing, what about his partner?
If bwt is bad, then Epi is probably his partner.
Voting JJJ because too many people are decrying voting BWT. But see, he has had all this time to ask for a replacement and hasn't done it. If he looks bad, waiting for him to respond will only be an excuse for so long before it's just time to lynch him.
I would say the same for me if it came down to it and I hadn't responded to the mob
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Also I see Epi as a moderate mafia read now regardless. I don't think with the current mock-up of people left that the mafia wants the SK gone just quite yet. Throwing doubts on MM, and on BWT, is a very subtle way to appear baddie-hunting while not actually doing so.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Well, I do wonder why he hasn't voted... he's been around all afternoon and he knows votes are changeable. He's smart enough to know that withholding his vote and waiting until the last second will give him the appearance of baddie behaviour, so... not sure what to think.
Scotty wrote:if BWT hasn't posted since Monday and isn't doing the killing, what about his partner?
If bwt is bad, then Epi is probably his partner.
Voting JJJ because too many people are decrying voting BWT. But see, he has had all this time to ask for a replacement and hasn't done it. If he looks bad, waiting for him to respond will only be an excuse for so long before it's just time to lynch him.
I would say the same for me if it came down to it and I hadn't responded to the mob
Scotty wrote:if BWT hasn't posted since Monday and isn't doing the killing, what about his partner?
If bwt is bad, then Epi is probably his partner.
Voting JJJ because too many people are decrying voting BWT. But see, he has had all this time to ask for a replacement and hasn't done it. If he looks bad, waiting for him to respond will only be an excuse for so long before it's just time to lynch him.
I would say the same for me if it came down to it and I hadn't responded to the mob
No wait, fuck Laconic humor.
If you really believe bird is bad, you should still be voting him. Why aren't you? And why the hell are you saying I'm bad if he is? Man up and stick to your guns. Don't bitch out and make a little bullshit statement you can hold on to afterward regardless of the result.
Scotty wrote:if BWT hasn't posted since Monday and isn't doing the killing, what about his partner?
If bwt is bad, then Epi is probably his partner.
Voting JJJ because too many people are decrying voting BWT. But see, he has had all this time to ask for a replacement and hasn't done it. If he looks bad, waiting for him to respond will only be an excuse for so long before it's just time to lynch him.
I would say the same for me if it came down to it and I hadn't responded to the mob
Scotty wrote:Also I see Epi as a moderate mafia read now regardless. I don't think with the current mock-up of people left that the mafia wants the SK gone just quite yet. Throwing doubts on MM, and on BWT, is a very subtle way to appear baddie-hunting while not actually doing so.
Mafia always want the SK gone. The SK is the only one who can eliminate their numbers without convincing others to do it.
And I didn't throw doubts on MM. timmer did that. Nice try.
Epignosis wrote:If birdwithteeth is a civilian with momentum against him, a solid mafia strategy would be to cast doubt on the 3J business, lynch bird, and then lament that we should have lynched 3J after all, oh gosh look he killed again come on lets get him
Lorab, what's your opinion of that strategy?
Maybe it's Scotty's strategy that didn't work out.
timmer wrote:I haven't been throwing doubts on MM, I've been saying he's civ?
He said I was "throwing doubts" on MM and BWT. My opinion was that MM was bad and that BWT was good. I interpreted "throwing doubts" as saying it was a bad lynch.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
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Scotty wrote:if BWT hasn't posted since Monday and isn't doing the killing, what about his partner?
If bwt is bad, then Epi is probably his partner.
Voting JJJ because too many people are decrying voting BWT. But see, he has had all this time to ask for a replacement and hasn't done it. If he looks bad, waiting for him to respond will only be an excuse for so long before it's just time to lynch him.
I would say the same for me if it came down to it and I hadn't responded to the mob
No wait, fuck Laconic humor.
If you really believe bird is bad, you should still be voting him. Why aren't you? And why the hell are you saying I'm bad if he is? Man up and stick to your guns. Don't bitch out and make a little bullshit statement you can hold on to afterward regardless of the result.
I believe them both to be bad. You really are the most vocal I think in calling for us to not lynch BWT, so it just makes sense that you're throwing shade around.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
BWT as bad for disengeunous posting. Quin actually brought up a chunk of posts that I remember seeing but didn't go back to link to that were quite noteworthy, so thanks for that Quin.
I don't understand why JJJ seems to be the concensus SK but i voted there because everyone else seems convinced
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not screaming like the people in his car
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