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Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:10 am
by ts account
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:09 am Seems those Mac posts Life cereal just highlighted are compatible with him shooting ted in the ass
For the last time.
I.
Do.
Not.
Eat.
LIFE.
Cereal.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:12 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
ts account wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:10 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:09 am Seems those Mac posts Life cereal just highlighted are compatible with him shooting ted in the ass
For the last time.
I.
Do.
Not.
Eat.
LIFE.
Cereal.
That’s unfortunate. It’s my favorite. I like it, hey Mikey

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:13 am
by ts account
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:12 am
ts account wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:10 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:09 am Seems those Mac posts Life cereal just highlighted are compatible with him shooting ted in the ass
For the last time.
I.
Do.
Not.
Eat.
LIFE.
Cereal.
That’s unfortunate. It’s my favorite. I like it, hey Mikey
Weird flex, but ok.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:13 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Regular > Cinnamon

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:15 am
by ts account
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:13 am Regular > Cinnamon
I have to agree with you there. Unless you mean flavorless>cinnamon in general, in which case we are enemies again.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:15 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Hey ts account how come every time Turnip Head said mean things about your alignment and integrity you treated them like a wrongie instead of a baddie

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:18 am
by Sloonei
mikey reminds me of another wrinkle that's sure induce more headaches. funnygurl claims that ted was among the players targeting mac Night 1. Here is ted's role:
Misthios: You’re a hardened mercenary! This means that each night, you can either STRONGARM someone, which means they won’t be able to vote you the next day, or you can SELLSWORD, which will give you a neighborhood with someone the following day. You can use STRONGARM once per game (and not at MYLO or LYLO), and SELLSWORD twice per game.

You are a Righteous Warrior and win when all the Heathenous Spies have been eliminated.
I highly doubt ted would strongarm Mac after Day 1. Ted was a suspect, but Mac was one of his most vocal advocates in the thread. ted could have been worried about votes on Day 2, but Mac would not have been someone he'd have to worry about. This point is made even stronger by the 1-shot limitation.

Therefore, barring redirection, it is much more likely that ted would be targeting Mac with a sellsword shot. I tried to look for evidence that they'd have had BTSC on Day 2, but results were hard to come by. There were a few contentious moments between them on Day 2 that might be an indication that there was no BTSC. If there was no BTSC, that can be explained by Mac's pirate ship. But then we're back to "if Mac was on his ship, funnygurl should not have a report on him."

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:19 am
by Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:13 am Regular > Cinnamon
I recently found a box of strawberry life and it was much better than I expected.

that was before the quarantine. i'm not gonna venture out in search of it again for a while.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:22 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
In a closed setup I’m not sure temporary BTSC should imply the participants will be trustful of one another in the thread.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:25 am
by ts account
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:15 am Hey ts account how come every time Turnip Head said mean things about your alignment and integrity you treated them like a wrongie instead of a baddie
I really do not know. It is very unlike me to have a compatible partner, and yet I cannot deny that my interactions with turnip head are in line with how I interact with partners. All I can say is that I would have scum read them for lying about their character name. I am banking on us lynching a player that I am not compatible with before it becomes necessary to scrutinize me any further. Epignosis would fulfill this.
Back to Turnip Head, perhaps it was because of how gentle they were in accusing me. Most of the time, I skated right over their accusations of me because it was so minor, I did not see it ever turning into a real scum read. The few that I did respond to...
I am sorry, I just do not really have a compelling answer.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:32 am
by Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:22 am In a closed setup I’m not sure temporary BTSC should imply the participants will be trustful of one another in the thread.
They trusted each other on Day 1. But I agree with this, and that's what I meant when I said that "mac -> ted" is more interesting than "ted -> mac". If a temporary BTSC was set up then I think it would be more worthwhile to study how the player receiving the BTSC responds to the player initiating it. ted has no reason to assume anything about his targets. His targets can at least assess whether they think ted's role is town.

Either way, I'm still not sure what exactly would qualify as "evidence", but it felt like a good idea to look anyway.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:33 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
If you’re the casing sort, Michelangelo, then a dedicated case against Tony and/or Long Con would go a long way. Your world at present is simply impossible if those two are what I generally read them to be. You may not have such a case right now, but it’d be a stupendous direction to head while the avatars are available to interpret and assess.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:35 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Maybe ted said something nasty about Jimmy Garoppolo in BTSC.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:36 am
by ts account
At this point, it seems clear that Macdougall can be responsible for the shot on ted. I did not realize his opinion of the slot had changed. So, the question remains if this means Macdougall had used his ship power on Night 2 as well. As far as I can tell, that is the most likely way for his role to work, although the vagueness of the wording leaves it open to interpretation.
So, everyone targeting Macdougall Night 1 had done so successfully. Meaning, Epignosis was lying, and Funnygurl was telling the truth. That was all it took to convince me. I just was not sold on Macdougall being responsible for the ted kill at first.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:36 am
by Sloonei
Ignoring claim business:

funnygurl
tony
Long Con
ts account

speedchuck
epignosis

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:37 am
by ts account
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:33 am If you’re the casing sort, Michelangelo, then a dedicated case against Tony and/or Long Con would go a long way. Your world at present is simply impossible if those two are what I generally read them to be. You may not have such a case right now, but it’d be a stupendous direction to head while the avatars are available to interpret and assess.
The problem is, I cannot make a decent wolf case on either of these players. Most of their play has been baseline at best, and I am perhaps a bit worried I would walk away with a town read on the slots, and become further confused. It would be much easier to towncase myself, but ted already did a much, much better job of that than I could ever do on day 1.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:38 am
by Sloonei
ts account wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:37 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:33 am If you’re the casing sort, Michelangelo, then a dedicated case against Tony and/or Long Con would go a long way. Your world at present is simply impossible if those two are what I generally read them to be. You may not have such a case right now, but it’d be a stupendous direction to head while the avatars are available to interpret and assess.
The problem is, I cannot make a decent wolf case on either of these players. Most of their play has been baseline at best, and I am perhaps a bit worried I would walk away with a town read on the slots, and become further confused. It would be much easier to towncase myself, but ted already did a much, much better job of that than I could ever do on day 1.
If you develop town reads on them and get confused, at least you can start working your way out of confusion.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:38 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay
nutella


I don’t often get to break out the fabled purple.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:40 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
ts account wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:37 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:33 am If you’re the casing sort, Michelangelo, then a dedicated case against Tony and/or Long Con would go a long way. Your world at present is simply impossible if those two are what I generally read them to be. You may not have such a case right now, but it’d be a stupendous direction to head while the avatars are available to interpret and assess.
The problem is, I cannot make a decent wolf case on either of these players. Most of their play has been baseline at best, and I am perhaps a bit worried I would walk away with a town read on the slots, and become further confused. It would be much easier to towncase myself, but ted already did a much, much better job of that than I could ever do on day 1.
Even if you successfully sell yourself as a civilian, it doesn’t lynch mafioso #3. Gotta start somewhere lad

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:41 am
by ts account
I am going to bed now, and by that I mean finish listening to this Breath of the Wild medley, then play some video games while laying on the floor, and then cry myself to sleep.
My suggested course of action is lynching Epignosis, and assuming the game does not end in the night, always massclaim tomorrow. Today it is not as necessary since we are only ever lynching in two options, but I am always claiming at some point tomorrow, even if nobody else does. Please do not make me feel awkward.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:42 am
by ts account
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:40 am
Even if you successfully sell yourself as a civilian, it doesn’t lynch mafioso #3. Gotta start somewhere lad
GTH, Tony spent some time trying to lynch outside the dichotomy, which is a scum tactic, by the book.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:43 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
ts account wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:42 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:40 am
Even if you successfully sell yourself as a civilian, it doesn’t lynch mafioso #3. Gotta start somewhere lad
GTH, Tony spent some time trying to lynch outside the dichotomy, which is a scum tactic, by the book.
I’ve considered doing that too. :eek:

Anyway, I’ll do my own research too assuming folks don’t hammer us back to heaven too fast.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D1)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:45 am
by Sloonei
Sloonei wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:48 pm The Book of Mafia ought to be shredded.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:46 am
by Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:43 am
ts account wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:42 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:40 am
Even if you successfully sell yourself as a civilian, it doesn’t lynch mafioso #3. Gotta start somewhere lad
GTH, Tony spent some time trying to lynch outside the dichotomy, which is a scum tactic, by the book.
I’ve considered doing that too. :eek:

Anyway, I’ll do my own research too assuming folks don’t hammer us back to heaven too fast.
Tony's wonky behavior today reminds me of his campaign to hunt outside of Mac/sig in the middle of the GoC. He's an unconventional hunter.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:48 am
by ts account
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:43 am
ts account wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:42 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:40 am
Even if you successfully sell yourself as a civilian, it doesn’t lynch mafioso #3. Gotta start somewhere lad
GTH, Tony spent some time trying to lynch outside the dichotomy, which is a scum tactic, by the book.
I’ve considered doing that too. :eek:

Anyway, I’ll do my own research too assuming folks don’t hammer us back to heaven too fast.
Nah, because it leaves you with the same dichotomy tomorrow. And it is not like this is a particularly 50/50 dichotomy. I would say it is more like 100/0. It is very unlikely that Epignosis flips town, so I do not see the point in wasting time postponing the inevitable. I had a particularly Dragomir-y reaction when I was caught with this scumtell for the first time. To me, as scum, it seemed much more profitable to lynch outside the dichotomy. But what do I know? /shrug

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:49 am
by ts account
Two minutes left of the medley. It was alright, Breath of the Wild does not have my favorite music, but I love the main theme motif, and wish it got used more in the game.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:52 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
The worst crime by one of my civilian reads was Long Con’s hammer-that-wasn’t. Even if Epignosis is a mafioso that was bad.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:40 am
by Long Con
ts account wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:15 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:13 am Regular > Cinnamon
I have to agree with you there. Unless you mean flavorless>cinnamon in general, in which case we are enemies again.
I knew he liked it!!

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:42 am
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:52 am The worst crime by one of my civilian reads was Long Con’s hammer-that-wasn’t. Even if Epignosis is a mafioso that was bad.
I was aware that I was putting him within one vote of a hammer, not actually hammering him. Just a little fun thrust. No one jumped on the final hammer vote.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:45 am
by Long Con
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:18 am mikey reminds me of another wrinkle that's sure induce more headaches. funnygurl claims that ted was among the players targeting mac Night 1. Here is ted's role:
Misthios: You’re a hardened mercenary! This means that each night, you can either STRONGARM someone, which means they won’t be able to vote you the next day, or you can SELLSWORD, which will give you a neighborhood with someone the following day. You can use STRONGARM once per game (and not at MYLO or LYLO), and SELLSWORD twice per game.

You are a Righteous Warrior and win when all the Heathenous Spies have been eliminated.
I highly doubt ted would strongarm Mac after Day 1. Ted was a suspect, but Mac was one of his most vocal advocates in the thread. ted could have been worried about votes on Day 2, but Mac would not have been someone he'd have to worry about. This point is made even stronger by the 1-shot limitation.

Therefore, barring redirection, it is much more likely that ted would be targeting Mac with a sellsword shot. I tried to look for evidence that they'd have had BTSC on Day 2, but results were hard to come by. There were a few contentious moments between them on Day 2 that might be an indication that there was no BTSC. If there was no BTSC, that can be explained by Mac's pirate ship. But then we're back to "if Mac was on his ship, funnygurl should not have a report on him."
I didn't click the link, but if there was little interaction between them in the thread, I would say that is evidence that BTSC was occurring. They don't need to have thread interactions, unless they want to BTSC-signal, or something. Better to look for synchronous opinions, maybe?

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:56 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
An announcement:

A clarification has been made to Mac's role PM. This is a clarification that should have been included in his flip.

In addition, it has come to my attention that ship owners were not all notified that they own a ship. If you own a ship and were not notified, you have now been told that you do.

I sincerely apologize for both oversights.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:27 am
by speedchuck
Caught up mostly.

Hey funnygurl you got a ship now?

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:41 am
by Sloonei
Well that mostly nullifies the funnygurl theory.

Epi bad

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:47 am
by TonyStarkPrime
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:30 am Can someone give me their best synopsis of the general reception Epignosis has had in this game before Day 3?
“Meh”

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:50 am
by TonyStarkPrime
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:09 am Seems those Mac posts Life cereal just highlighted are compatible with him shooting ted in the ass
ted ain’t got no ship

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:56 am
by Funnygurl555
yeah i got a ship

AND AN EAGLE

i'm loaded

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:57 am
by Funnygurl555

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:01 am
by speedchuck
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:56 am yeah i got a ship

AND AN EAGLE

i'm loaded
Problem solved. :pirate:

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:02 am
by TonyStarkPrime
well I mean easiest lie in the world but I’m willing to accept it cause it solves the problems

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:02 am
by TonyStarkPrime
speedchuck wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:01 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:56 am yeah i got a ship

AND AN EAGLE

i'm loaded
Problem solved. :pirate:
who are u

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:04 am
by TonyStarkPrime
speedchuck wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:50 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:45 pm @speedchuck
Have you claimed a role yet? If not, please do.
Has everyone else? I'm not caught up but it still seems like a terrible idea
It’s 50/50. I just want character name, but if you have another info, feel free to share

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:10 am
by speedchuck
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:02 am
speedchuck wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:01 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:56 am yeah i got a ship

AND AN EAGLE

i'm loaded
Problem solved. :pirate:
who are u
No. I refuse.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:14 am
by Sloonei
Epi’s bad about 99 times out of 100 here, but I still don’t want to rush to a hammer.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:18 am
by speedchuck
[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] 1/3 of your posts D3 have been about getting people to flavorclaim. This is after we found out that Mac's protection in his role could be subverted by flavor (if he were only attacked or visited by characters with boats, probably from ACIV: Black Flag).

Tell me why we should empower all the roles that rely on flavor-related things, and I'll consider a flavor claim.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:20 am
by Sloonei
Someone photoshop Guy Fieri in an assassin’s robe please.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:23 am
by speedchuck
Image

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:24 am
by speedchuck
(I take no credit for the above picture)

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:28 am
by Sloonei
This game has taught me that sexy vegetables and assassin fieri both exist.

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:33 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:50 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:09 am Seems those Mac posts Life cereal just highlighted are compatible with him shooting ted in the ass
ted ain’t got no ship
so

Re: Assassin's Creed Mafia (D3)

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:34 am
by ts account
It looks like I did not miss much and yet I missed quite a lot. It is worth checking funnygurl, epignosis, and MacDougall character wikis for mentions of ships or aquatism or anything of the like, I think. I am also curious to know why Tony would like people to be character claiming.