The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:46 am**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:29 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:16 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:03 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 am
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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:54 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:51 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:38 am

I’m not telling you to read all of them.

How is the progression bad? Explain to me exactly.
I made some posts and asked about this thing, i don't remember you answering

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p637364

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p636264
Thank you so much.

I thought I answered the first one? I don't believe I answered the second. Admittedly it's been a long game.

I said I was pushing you because you were complacent, that does not mean you have been inactive. It means... when I looked in your ISO, I thought you seemed generally okay with whatever the yeet was, there was a lack of evaluation of players, at least fmpov. That was my interpretation of the body of work of your ISO, but particularly of your D3 posts, when I started pushing you during D3.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "A question is, why did you put me at the bottom of the list as being inactive?", is that basically the same as what I addressed above? If not, let me know.

As for "In the next reads you mention my name like you excuse yourself for the read (coloured text). Can you tell me why?", it was a statement that my reads on you and cobbler were outdated because I had spent more time on the other players in recent memory as of the time of that post, so I was intending on going into your ISO thereafter (which I did do on D3).

I hope this helps, but let me know.
cyan text
I was never happy with any lynch this is a lie.

yellow text: you prepared the post for the villa flip of me to show innocent while you are not
I'm not lying.

What do you mean by the second thing?
Then you honestly think i was happy with any lynch? Can you read my Iso? It's short.

The second is the paranoid thought that scum always insert hidden excuses for suspecting villagers and come back after mislynch to those posts.
I do apologize, I think we've been talking past each other pretty badly, and it takes two, so I realize I could have stepped away and tried to better understand you throughout the game, not just now. And that's on me.

I promise you that I'll take another look at your ISO and try to come to a fresh determination, at least as much of one as I can.

Oh, re: the second thing, I see what you're saying now. That's an understandable interpretation. I'd say I prefer for everyone to know where my reads are at due to transparency's sake, so I was trying to clarify that my reads on you and cobbler were less confident than my others, if that makes sense.

I understand now better. Thanks for clarifying it.
I won't answer at the other one, i read it and shows a nice mindset and means an advice for me for future games.

What do you think about Dizxy asking me why i gave you TR early in the game because you could post all those posts as wolf too?

Now i need to read a lot, see you in 10 hours, more or less ^^

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:48 am**

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:46 am Good night everyone! It was nice to actually engage with people instead of trying to go through endless posts :')

Bonne nuit Carotte, hope to see you in 10 hours too

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:02 am**

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:11 pm everyone seems to be ok with banishing michelle today should i be worried?

When we see where the votes land is when we see who's actually ok with yeeting who, which is the scary part.

But actually, question to everyone, who would you prefer if not Michelle? I think that is a needed question anyway

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:03 am**

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:13 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:11 pm everyone seems to be ok with banishing michelle today should i be worried?
I would be more worried about the traction of speed/jeraldoo. For Michelle, I don't see a world where I get off and consider other teams without her, I just can't see it

Wait? Traction for Speed in this day phase? Can you be more specific?

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:06 am**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:13 pmI understand, I'm just feeling rather angsty about the state of affairs. I know you have no intentions to cast aspersions, you just want to help. And I appreciate that.

MP, do you read Speed as town here or is this just a way of speech?

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:10 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:24 amDyslexicon - Dizzy is a magnificent scum player, nothing is outsude his scum range.

Michelle, this is an absurd statement. How did you get to this conclusion and what makes you qualified to make this statement? If I'm not mistaken, you've only experienced my scum game when I replaced into your scum team.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:10 am**

Also, why the MP vote? I thought you were gearing up for a vote on me or something.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:15 am**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:56 am Michelle is probably just town right now, there's no way she thinks this is her best way of getting her team the win.

Counterpoint. If she's scum and is getting yeeted anyway, she doesn't want to make anti-alignments. They only need one misyeet at any point.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:16 am**

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] Who would you prefer if not Michelle?

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:17 am**

I'm not sold on Michelle though.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:18 am**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:00 am Yeah, Michelle is town. This is townie. There's no way this is agenda.

How sure are you about this and why?

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:20 am**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:05 amIf Dizzy is also town, then the exact team is Carote/speed/1612. If we lose to that team because Michelle votes me, then uh.

This team, I guess I could see. It also wouldn't be out of question that Urist is in there. But if that is the case, then we're doing a balancing act right now.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:21 am**

[mention]Michelle[/mention] I don't understand where your reads or your game view is coming from? You seem to suspect me as scum, but why? Because "I have no scum range" which is so absolutely not true.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:25 am**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:24 am Addendum:

The reason that final post would make me feel like shit is that Dizzy and I have known each other for a decent while now, have never rolled town together in any game, and after all this time for me to have said everything I had to him and then make a post like that? I would feel like an asshole.

Aight. MP lock town for me.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:29 am**

I can't even be here right now. I'll be on before EoD, but I'm fully busy today. I'll probably vote whoever MP votes and follow her off whatever cliff we're on and hope we land on something soft.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:35 am**

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] I'm town, and I think you know that. Do you trust me? We need to be all town voting for scum today in order to win. Can you explain to me better why you think Michelle is town?

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:36 am**

Why are time zones and life a thing?

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:09 am**

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:02 am**

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:37 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:27 pm Even in the most tinfoily of situations, there's still a scum NOT in Dizzy/MP/Urist. I don't think I want to lynch there today. But I'm not ruling anything out until we get a scumflip.
Why not in these three? It's *exactly* my tinfoil team

Okay, maybe not in the MOST Tinfoily of situations...

But if that's the team, the game might as well be over, so I'm not considering it.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:05 am**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:46 pm I just skimmed 1612's ISO. I don't feel like voting there today. The effort in some of those posts makes me think that the many posts about 'sorry I'm not there' were genuine.

I don't have much reason not to vote Michelle.

I tinfoil MP7 over Dizzy, but it's hard to say. MP being inconsistent is pretty town meta for her.
What specifically, do you mind elaborating on this?

There's not much more to elaborate on. I glanced at 1612's ISO and saw a bunch of excuses for not playing.

A deeper dive showed me quite a few long, involved posts.

This is the light level of analysis I'm doing.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:07 am**

MP's self-analysis concurs with my observations of her. If she has an agenda, she isn't sticking with it very well.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:31 am**

Ooh yikes a vote

We might could vote No Lynch BTW guys, if we don't came to a consensus townread (tho it looks like MP will be it)

How sure are you of Michelle Urist? And why?

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:28 pm**

Majority has been reached and the thread is locked until we can get the post up. Moderators please do not post in the thread.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:41 pm**

Michelle has been banished.

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The Outlanders have reached majority.

Congratulations to the Outlanders on a full sweep!

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Many thanks to all the players and subs, and the MoDs *JJJ and sabie* and my lovely co-host, juliets who has made this my favorite hosting experience ever!

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:43 pm**

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:43 pm**

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:44 pm**

I literally just came back to the thread to find it locked.

Well played wolves. I’m just glad it’s over tbh. That sucked.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:45 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:44 pm I literally just came back to the thread to find it locked.

Well played wolves. I’m just glad it’s over tbh. That sucked.

Cursed univers confirmed. =(

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:46 pm**

I thought Michelle was obvious town after my spat with her. I don’t understand why that happened. I’m not happy.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:48 pm**

couldnt have done this without juliets, so if you felt like the game was running smoothly, please thank her because she's the one that makes things move smoothly every eod.

also many thanks to JJJ and sabie for helping us a ton BTS.

and thanks to everyone for playing, it was really fun to watch you all in action.

i wouldn't have wanted to be in anyone's shoes here.

highlight moment for me: tutuu's fake red peek on the godfather.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:48 pm**

Whatever, it’s over now. Either after Proto was modkilled or the Lavender yeet was the pivotal moment where we lost this game, pick one I guess.

I still had tons of fun playing with you all, even if I’m rather upset at the moment.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:49 pm**

Thank you so much for the game, [mention]dunya[/mention] and [mention]juliets[/mention]! As you know, I had a lot of fun with this game, despite randing scum! So thank you so much for hosting.

[mention]1612[/mention] You were and awesome teammate! You're such a joy to play with and I can't wait to play with you again! Thank you for all your hard work! <3

[mention]Carotenoid[/mention] GOAT. Thank you for bringing the energy we needed! And good job to [mention]cobbler[/mention] for giving us a great start on the slot, and to [mention]tedxtr[/mention] as well. <3

GG, town.
I'm sorry I had to be scum this game, cause town is my destiny, but also - Scar <3

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:49 pm**

Thank you everyone, was a great first forum game for me! Hopefully I roll town next time

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:49 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:45 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:44 pm I literally just came back to the thread to find it locked.

Well played wolves. I’m just glad it’s over tbh. That sucked.
Cursed univers confirmed. =(

It’s okay, it’s my fault, but to your credit you told me what I wanted to hear.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:51 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:48 pm Whatever, it’s over now. Either after Proto was modkilled or the Lavender yeet was the pivotal moment where we lost this game, pick one I guess.

I still had tons of fun playing with you all, even if I’m rather upset at the moment.

you literally had the team in the end, all three.

everyone scum read someone correctly, but for every correct read they had, they townshielded an outlander out of someone else's reads. i think that was the biggest problem in getting good banishes.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:51 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:49 pmIt’s okay, it’s my fault, but to your credit you told me what I wanted to hear.

I just try to copy my town meta when I rand scum, and I do my very best, or else the game would be no fun. Seems I only rand scum if you're in the game and have randed town. That is so unfair. I genuinely would be so happy to be town with you. But alas, maybe in a couple of years. Rip.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:53 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:51 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:49 pmIt’s okay, it’s my fault, but to your credit you told me what I wanted to hear.
I just try to copy my town meta when I rand scum, and I do my very best, or else the game would be no fun. Seems I only rand scum if you're in the game and have randed town. That is so unfair. I genuinely would be so happy to be town with you. But alas, maybe in a couple of years. Rip.

It’s alright, it’ll happen someday. You played well.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:53 pm**

[mention]dunya[/mention] thank you for letting me help you! And congrats to the wolf team [mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] [mention]1612[/mention] and [mention]Carotenoid[/mention]. Dizzy in wolf chat was amazing, just like they were in the thread.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:54 pm**

I crie evritiem

Good work scum! A well deserved win! You outplayed us for sure :P

Thanks [mention]dunya[/mention] and [mention]juliets[/mention] for hosting! Despite my uneappealing schedule I had a lot of fun playing

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:54 pm**

I’m just really tired of losing games like this.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:54 pm**

Thanks for hosting dunya and juliets, really, I’m glad the timing worked out.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:54 pm**

Literally never trusting Dizzy ever again though

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 pm**

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:54 pm Literally never trusting Dizzy ever again though

But I'm always town.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 pm**

Thanks for giving me time to get my feet wet -.-

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:57 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:54 pm Literally never trusting Dizzy ever again though
But I'm always town.

For 2 years I wanted to play against scum!you and never did lol. Turns out all I had to do was go offsite and now you're nontown every game lololol

RNG is such a troll tbh

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:00 pm**

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:57 pmFor 2 years I wanted to play against scum!you and never did lol. Turns out all I had to do was go offsite and now you're nontown every game lololol

RNG is such a troll tbh

All the rip in the world!
This is maybe the first time I've fully enjoyed being scum though. =p
I was not like I was in Mean Girls, doubting my every move. You almost had me though, and then you died somehow hmmm.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:01 pm**

Here is the spectator chat

https://discord.gg/tBfd4t

Here is wolf chat

https://discord.gg/jBtbwV

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:04 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 pm Thanks for giving me time to get my feet wet -.-

You were saved from the misery.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:05 pm**

GG mafia, you played well. Town was a total mess and you took advantage of it. Special mention to Dizzy for openwolfing with his votes at deadline, dunno why we let you get away with that.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:06 pm**

Changing the vote twice at DL was what lost us the game imo. The last-minute decisions are so so anti-town.

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