The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:16 pm**

I'm also leaving

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:18 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:15 pm Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first

Not sure if it still stands up but I thought Esooa's initial meta defence of Trans was honestly too bad to come from a partner and I think if she wanted to save him she could have tried to a lot harder without half-assing it.

Obviously she doubled down later on though and that's why I'm not confident it's still valid.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm**

wiml you literally came to the same conclusions

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions

Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm**

This is fine

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine

Do you still think Transcend is town?

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.

bro ur howling lmao

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine

It really is

No one will listen to the voices of truth so maybe they will tomorrow

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.
bro ur howling lmao

That's literally true lol.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
Do you still think Transcend is town?

I've read nothing between when I left thread last night and now so...yeah

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 pm**

what do you mean remember it being a half hearted save attempt

that's what you thought of it?

what's "fuck me" supposed to mean?

if you're town and came to the same conclusion you would recognize I simply compared the games and came to a reasonable but incorrect conclusion (this is even assuming transcend flips wolf) especially considering we read things similarly

instead you use it to shade me

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
Do you still think Transcend is town?
I've read nothing between when I left thread last night and now so...yeah

Oh dear lol.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
It really is

No one will listen to the voices of truth so maybe they will tomorrow

It doesn't usually work out that way lol

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
It really is

No one will listen to the voices of truth so maybe they will tomorrow
It doesn't usually work out that way lol

Perhaps not

But it works out a bit better than busting my ass to save myself only to have the same song and dance happen d2

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:31 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 pm what do you mean remember it being a half hearted save attempt

that's what you thought of it?

what's "fuck me" supposed to mean?

if you're town and came to the same conclusion you would recognize I simply compared the games and came to a reasonable but incorrect conclusion (this is even assuming transcend flips wolf) especially considering we read things similarly

instead you use it to shade me

As in, when you first brought up Transcend meta you just... brought it up and never tried to do anything about it? Like obviously you did later on but I'm more interested in that initial segment where your only explained reasons for Transcend town were honestly pretty bad and you never really pushed it further.

"Fuck me" is a very British way of swearing lol.

Yes I do... what are you trying to say?

And I'm not using it to shade you I'm using it to say that I don't think you have partner equity with Transcend even outside of my townread on you.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:31 pm**

Kristen you do realise that I was defending you right?

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:33 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:18 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:15 pm Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first
Obviously she doubled down later on though and that's why I'm not confident it's still valid.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:35 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.

also this makes no sense together

first post--unpartnered defense but double down makes you not sure

second post--partnered defense (can't be a half hearted save attempt unless we are) and then the double down makes it not?

these are opposite things

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:36 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:18 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:15 pm Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first
Not sure if it still stands up but I thought Esooa's initial meta defence of Trans was honestly too bad to come from a partner and I think if she wanted to save him she could have tried to a lot harder without half-assing it.

Obviously she doubled down later on though and that's why I'm not confident it's still valid.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:37 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:33 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:18 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:15 pm Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first
Obviously she doubled down later on though and that's why I'm not confident it's still valid.

Yeah that's me saying I'm not 100% confident on it being not w/w without looking back to check. I just don't think you'd half-ass a partner read like that lol.

I think you're town and I think you're loosely unpartnered with Transcend wtf lol.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:38 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:35 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:19 pm wiml you literally came to the same conclusions
Fuck me lol.

But in all seriousness I remember it originally being a very half-hearted save attempt before you doubled down much later on.
also this makes no sense together

first post--unpartnered defense but double down makes you not sure

second post--partnered defense (can't be a half hearted save attempt unless we are) and then the double down makes it not?

these are opposite things

I never ever ever called it partnered unless I've had an autocorrect issue somewhere.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:40 pm**

then what does "remember it being a half hearted save attempt" mean?

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:40 pm**

I'm confused about what you're even confused about lol.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:42 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:40 pm then what does "remember it being a half hearted save attempt" mean?

Ah.

Tl;dr I think you would take a firmer stance on a partner in matt's position than you originally took on him.

Originally, you made yourself look bad if he flipped but didn't actually really try to convince people not to flip him.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:53 pm**

1: I don't understand remembering it as a half hearted save attempt if you didn't think at that time it was a save attempt

2: I don't understand the need to point out apprehension to delegitimize your read when you came to the same conclusion so it's not such that I was lying about anything. I read it either as sloppy fake solving (which is why I think your reading of it changed in the second post) or trying to hold to your previous read while not trying to steer alison off me if transcend is a wolf

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:56 pm**

I’m not gonna have time to catch up did mac do his plan?

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:58 pm**

i don't think so

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:58 pm**

oh my god EOD is in an hour I didn't realize

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:58 pm**

I'll just park on Transcend and catch up tomorrow, w/e

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:58 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:53 pm 1: I don't understand remembering it as a half hearted save attempt if you didn't think at that time it was a save attempt

2: I don't understand the need to point out apprehension to delegitimize your read when you came to the same conclusion so it's not such that I was lying about anything. I read it either as sloppy fake solving (which is why I think your reading of it changed in the second post) or trying to hold to your previous read while not trying to steer alison off me if transcend is a wolf

Ok but I'm drunk and my word choices were bad. That's NAI unless you think I have TMI that you/Transcend arecw/w anywaym.

I'm apprehensive because it's really easy for my not w/w read to just be wrong and I never really paid much attention to it because I am heavily townreading you outside of that and just brought it up for the sake if one post?

Again, I'm literally defending you lol. It's very very obvious I'm not intending to push on you given my previous posts about you

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:59 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:15 pm Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first

Legacy is as follows.

If Transcend flips green re-evaluate everything obviously.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:06 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:56 pm I’m not gonna have time to catch up did mac do his plan?

yup

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:06 pm**

plan executed

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:07 pm**

Okay ig I’ll vote transcend

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:07 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:07 pm Okay ig I’ll vote transcend

Sadge

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:09 pm**

if transcend is a wolf I'm gonna be sad for having bad reads

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm**

Well I’m willing to swap off u onto tsp if u can get enough voters, I don’t even have any reason to believe he’s mafia but it’s probs better for the long run if he’s out

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:23 pm This is fine
It really is

No one will listen to the voices of truth so maybe they will tomorrow
It doesn't usually work out that way lol
Perhaps not

But it works out a bit better than busting my ass to save myself only to have the same song and dance happen d2

Yeah fair enough

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:09 pm if transcend is a wolf I'm gonna be sad for having bad reads

If Trans flips wolf do I get to be town?

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm**

I'd vote Mac over transcend but eh

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:11 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:09 pm if transcend is a wolf I'm gonna be sad for having bad reads
If Trans flips wolf do I get to be town?

shrug

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:11 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm Well I’m willing to swap off u onto tsp if u can get enough voters, I don’t even have any reason to believe he’s mafia but it’s probs better for the long run if he’s out

This is the quintessential tsp experience

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:11 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm Well I’m willing to swap off u onto tsp if u can get enough voters, I don’t even have any reason to believe he’s mafia but it’s probs better for the long run if he’s out

Probably the same can be said for Trans though tbh.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:12 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:11 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm Well I’m willing to swap off u onto tsp if u can get enough voters, I don’t even have any reason to believe he’s mafia but it’s probs better for the long run if he’s out
Probably the same can be said for Trans though tbh.

Nah, trans Atleast has shown that he’s playing the game

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:12 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm I'd vote Mac over transcend but eh

I would have but at this point I think Trans just always has to die tbh, if not today then later on.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:13 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:11 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:09 pm if transcend is a wolf I'm gonna be sad for having bad reads
If Trans flips wolf do I get to be town?
shrug

Wolfcase me or be a coward tbh.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:13 pm**

Nfi what tsp is doing and his only shield is an easy to replicate meta of what translates to doing the bare minimal when he’s town, which just means at best he’s gonna be ml bait for mafia later on

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:14 pm**

But yeah it’s upto trans to muster up the troops if he wants to go there

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:15 pm**

If you think I am mafia more than you think someone else is mafia then vote me. Jesus this game is not hard.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:15 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:09 pm if transcend is a wolf I'm gonna be sad for having bad reads

I'm town but you're still going to be dead cause any sane scum team would just kill u n1

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