fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:55 am
I don’t think most people would consider using personal friendship to emotional manipulate an example of good gameplay.
I’m not trying to make you feel guilty.
Breaks OP rules but not etiquette rules. I like it.
Omgusing this for you.
[VOTE:
Seanzie] aubergine
What about Seanzie is sus to you?
He‘s voting FS.
I wouldn‘t vote FS with what I‘ve seen.
Do you think I shouldn‘t be sus of Sean, conversely ?
What specifically have you seen from FS that doesn’t merit voting there?
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:15 pm
by Seanzie
I'd elim Golden here.
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:17 pm
by Scotty
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:15 pm
I'd elim Golden here.
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:42 am
The story of how I am certain I was the nightkill target.
I apologise for outing the doctor. I think you're outed anyway, because I think the mafia tried to kill you last night. Hope I'm right, I profusely apologise if you hate me for doing this.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:50 pm
I feel like Marmot and/or Golden are WKing me.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:51 pm
I guess Golden is probably more likely mafia WKing me since Marmot actually knows me well enough to have a townread on me.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:55 pm[VOTE:
Golden] aubergine
Robbie woke up to the sounds of morning life on the street. The light gradually crept into and spread across the room as he nursed his hangover with bananas and coffee. He stretched for a few minutes to work out the kinks from another night on a mattress that wouldn’t even cut it at a Motel 6 back home.
Once his head stopped pounding enough, he collected himself, took a piss, and pulled his money out of the nightstand. A good breakfast would do him wonders. It felt safe enough to venture out. Despite the hangover, the night was uneventful. That had to be a good sign, right?
He tied his shoes, put on his sunglasses, and opened the door. He couldn’t wait to get out of this place, but right now fresh air and a warm meal was all that was on the menu.
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IT IS NOW DAY 3. YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO ELIMINATE SOMEONE.
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:41 am
@Seanzie, what do you think of my thoughts so far today. Do you think I'm looking in the right directions, generally speaking?
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:43 am[VOTE:
Matahari] aubergine
Let's start down this road and see what comes.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:56 am[VOTE:
Matahari] aubergine
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:34 pm[VOTE:
splints] aubergine
I’ve been flirting with it for a while
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:52 pm[VOTE:
Fingersplints] aubergine
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:42 am
The story of how I am certain I was the nightkill target.
I apologise for outing the doctor. I think you're outed anyway, because I think the mafia tried to kill you last night. Hope I'm right, I profusely apologise if you hate me for doing this.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:50 pm
I feel like Marmot and/or Golden are WKing me.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:51 pm
I guess Golden is probably more likely mafia WKing me since Marmot actually knows me well enough to have a townread on me.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:55 pm[VOTE:
Golden] aubergine
Robbie woke up to the sounds of morning life on the street. The light gradually crept into and spread across the room as he nursed his hangover with bananas and coffee. He stretched for a few minutes to work out the kinks from another night on a mattress that wouldn’t even cut it at a Motel 6 back home.
Once his head stopped pounding enough, he collected himself, took a piss, and pulled his money out of the nightstand. A good breakfast would do him wonders. It felt safe enough to venture out. Despite the hangover, the night was uneventful. That had to be a good sign, right?
He tied his shoes, put on his sunglasses, and opened the door. He couldn’t wait to get out of this place, but right now fresh air and a warm meal was all that was on the menu.
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IT IS NOW DAY 3. YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO ELIMINATE SOMEONE.
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:41 am
@Seanzie, what do you think of my thoughts so far today. Do you think I'm looking in the right directions, generally speaking?
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:43 am[VOTE:
Matahari] aubergine
Let's start down this road and see what comes.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:56 am[VOTE:
Matahari] aubergine
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:34 pm[VOTE:
splints] aubergine
I’ve been flirting with it for a while
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:52 pm[VOTE:
Fingersplints] aubergine
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:47 pm
At the moment I expect Seanzie is upset with my post and look, I get it. SVS is too.
Wdym by upset. That's not an emotion that should influence decision making process though it's quite popular as of late.
Old school etiquette would say that I should never make the post I did about what I believe is evidence I was protected, because it paints a target for the mafia on who to kill.
My take is that this is appropriate in survive-to-win vote conditions, but that in ‘can win when dead’ games the rule should be different.
I can understand if I’m right but Seanzie, who in my view has played very well, feels like I’ve done something to compromise his game.
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:42 am
The story of how I am certain I was the nightkill target.
I apologise for outing the doctor. I think you're outed anyway, because I think the mafia tried to kill you last night. Hope I'm right, I profusely apologise if you hate me for doing this.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:50 pm
I feel like Marmot and/or Golden are WKing me.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:51 pm
I guess Golden is probably more likely mafia WKing me since Marmot actually knows me well enough to have a townread on me.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:55 pm[VOTE:
Golden] aubergine
Robbie woke up to the sounds of morning life on the street. The light gradually crept into and spread across the room as he nursed his hangover with bananas and coffee. He stretched for a few minutes to work out the kinks from another night on a mattress that wouldn’t even cut it at a Motel 6 back home.
Once his head stopped pounding enough, he collected himself, took a piss, and pulled his money out of the nightstand. A good breakfast would do him wonders. It felt safe enough to venture out. Despite the hangover, the night was uneventful. That had to be a good sign, right?
He tied his shoes, put on his sunglasses, and opened the door. He couldn’t wait to get out of this place, but right now fresh air and a warm meal was all that was on the menu.
--------------------------------
IT IS NOW DAY 3. YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO ELIMINATE SOMEONE.
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:41 am
@Seanzie, what do you think of my thoughts so far today. Do you think I'm looking in the right directions, generally speaking?
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:43 am[VOTE:
Matahari] aubergine
Let's start down this road and see what comes.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:56 am[VOTE:
Matahari] aubergine
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:34 pm[VOTE:
splints] aubergine
I’ve been flirting with it for a while
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:52 pm[VOTE:
Fingersplints] aubergine
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:42 am
The story of how I am certain I was the nightkill target.
I apologise for outing the doctor. I think you're outed anyway, because I think the mafia tried to kill you last night. Hope I'm right, I profusely apologise if you hate me for doing this.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:50 pm
I feel like Marmot and/or Golden are WKing me.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:51 pm
I guess Golden is probably more likely mafia WKing me since Marmot actually knows me well enough to have a townread on me.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:55 pm[VOTE:
Golden] aubergine
Robbie woke up to the sounds of morning life on the street. The light gradually crept into and spread across the room as he nursed his hangover with bananas and coffee. He stretched for a few minutes to work out the kinks from another night on a mattress that wouldn’t even cut it at a Motel 6 back home.
Once his head stopped pounding enough, he collected himself, took a piss, and pulled his money out of the nightstand. A good breakfast would do him wonders. It felt safe enough to venture out. Despite the hangover, the night was uneventful. That had to be a good sign, right?
He tied his shoes, put on his sunglasses, and opened the door. He couldn’t wait to get out of this place, but right now fresh air and a warm meal was all that was on the menu.
--------------------------------
IT IS NOW DAY 3. YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO ELIMINATE SOMEONE.
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:41 am
@Seanzie, what do you think of my thoughts so far today. Do you think I'm looking in the right directions, generally speaking?
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:43 am[VOTE:
Matahari] aubergine
Let's start down this road and see what comes.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:56 am[VOTE:
Matahari] aubergine
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:34 pm[VOTE:
splints] aubergine
I’ve been flirting with it for a while
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:52 pm[VOTE:
Fingersplints] aubergine
So you think that since Seanzie was sheeping you coming into D3, you were saved by him. Gotcha.
Plausible I guess
Also seems like something Maf could easily do, seeing their kill didn't go thru, and then they can fake it
This is a terrible plan. The doctor can rumble this.
They don't need to explicitly state that's why, it could be assumed, as you've done.
Why does Doc Sean save you, one of his SR's?
I dunno. But he did.
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:58 pm
by Golden
Chances of a Sean wolf going ‘you know what, i can use this as an opportunity to pocket golden’ and putting down doctor threads for me to see are astronomical. It’s far too risky.
The doctor dying would refute it.
It’s a million percent more likely that Sean just happened to sharply change his read and I misjudged why than that he’s deliberately wolf-pocketing me.
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:59 pm
by Golden
Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:50 pm
Not upset, confused. I don’t understand the purpose of such a post.
How so?
Your philosophizing about win conditions and what they mean to how specific roles are treated is lovely.
But if you are even right, I don’t see how the town benefits from this.
I don’t understand
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:02 pm
by Golden
You don’t think the town benefits from getting strong civs to stop tinfoiling other civs?
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:05 pm
by Kate
My misunderstanding is even more basic.
I don't see anything in roles that's explains how you could possibly KNOW you were protected. @Golden
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:06 pm
by Golden
Kate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:05 pm
My misunderstanding is even more basic.
I don't see anything in roles that's explains how you could possibly KNOW you were protected. @Golden
The posts by Seanzie did the work to tell me.
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:07 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
One theory I've been playing around with is... well is that Golden is mafia Sean is not and Golden is trying to get doc to CC.
I don't think I necessarily believe that though.
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:08 pm
by Kate
What is Cc?
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:08 pm
by Golden
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:07 pm
One theory I've been playing around with is... well is that Golden is mafia Sean is not and Golden is trying to get doc to CC.
I don't think I necessarily believe that though.
I made that post because you were tunnelling and wouldn’t listen or try to see. I was really trying to get you out of the tunnel.
The doctor can’t counterclaim though, nor can Seanzie confirm. All that can happen is that the thread state shifts.
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:13 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
: insert gif of pokemon character sipping tea here :
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:13 pm
by Golden
[VOTE:
falcon] aubergine
While everyone else is like ‘wtf’, he’s calmly laying out a countercase the mafia have had time to think about,
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:14 pm
by Golden
Neon, regardless of whether you believe me I hope you recognise the fact I made the post as a sign of respect for how good a player I think you are and damn I hope you’re town.
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:14 pm
by Vivax
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:59 pm
Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.
I see two of two unless you include the Disco.
What's making you so sure that Seanzie is town to the point of frustration?
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:59 pm
Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.
I see two of two unless you include the Disco.
What's making you so sure that Seanzie is town to the point of frustration?
Neon just took a ghost vote off Dennis and put it elsewhere.
Seanzie has been under fire literally every day this entire game for reasons that I thought were shit before day 3, and that I think are even more shit now that i believe he’s the doctor.
As the only person I feel I can confirm town with 100% certainty I’m determined to use my vote to keep him alive. Problematic when I’m the counterwagon.
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:59 pm
Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.
I see two of two unless you include the Disco.
What's making you so sure that Seanzie is town to the point of frustration?
Neon just took a ghost vote off Dennis and put it elsewhere.
Seanzie has been under fire literally every day this entire game for reasons that I thought were shit before day 3, and that I think are even more shit now that i believe he’s the doctor.
As the only person I feel I can confirm town with 100% certainty I’m determined to use my vote to keep him alive. Problematic when I’m the counterwagon.
So if Dennis, Seanzie, you are all town and this day isn't going swimmingly...
Who's scum? Why are they town?
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:59 pm
Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.
I see two of two unless you include the Disco.
What's making you so sure that Seanzie is town to the point of frustration?
Neon just took a ghost vote off Dennis and put it elsewhere.
Seanzie has been under fire literally every day this entire game for reasons that I thought were shit before day 3, and that I think are even more shit now that i believe he’s the doctor.
As the only person I feel I can confirm town with 100% certainty I’m determined to use my vote to keep him alive. Problematic when I’m the counterwagon.
So if Dennis, Seanzie, you are all town and this day isn't going swimmingly...
Who's scum? Why are they town?
Gonna backread in the meantime.
Well I think you are
But assuming you’re not - from most scummy tier to least
Roxy, Falcon (also the tier where I have you)
Fingersplints, scotty
Lucy, neon
And maybe the most tinfoil of tinfoil, a very outside shot it’s rondo and bea fooled me.
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:59 pm
Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.
I see two of two unless you include the Disco.
What's making you so sure that Seanzie is town to the point of frustration?
Neon just took a ghost vote off Dennis and put it elsewhere.
Seanzie has been under fire literally every day this entire game for reasons that I thought were shit before day 3, and that I think are even more shit now that i believe he’s the doctor.
As the only person I feel I can confirm town with 100% certainty I’m determined to use my vote to keep him alive. Problematic when I’m the counterwagon.
So if Dennis, Seanzie, you are all town and this day isn't going swimmingly...
Who's scum? Why are they town?
Gonna backread in the meantime.
Well I think you are
But assuming you’re not - from most scummy tier to least
Roxy, Falcon (also the tier where I have you)
Fingersplints, scotty
Lucy, neon
And maybe the most tinfoil of tinfoil, a very outside shot it’s rondo and bea fooled me.
I’m fully excluding Kate, svs, Dennis and Sean.
What about Scotty?
Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 4]
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:30 pm
by falcon45ca
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:13 pm[VOTE:
falcon] aubergine
While everyone else is like ‘wtf’, he’s calmly laying out a countercase the mafia have had time to think about,
