The Syndicate

I voted for Foxcatcher, because I haven't seen any of these movies, and catching foxes sounds cool, because foxes are cool.

Sorry DF, the baddies' trick worked like a charm on this sucker.

Made wrote:

Mongoose wrote:And now a word from Fritz Lang:

Reading back it is obvious to me now that few of the civilian lynches so far have been accidents. There is a malicious group of individuals functioning behind the scenes controlling and manipulating the votes, and when you examine the pattern there is little to no doubt as to who they are. Pay particular attention to what happened on days 5 and 6 and the night between and you shall discover the truth.

._. rip
Alright so (based on votes anyways) Fritz thinks it SVS and Roxy. Thoughts?

What is it that happened days 5-6?

Llama was also killed Night 5.

Was Llama a civ like a predicted?

Vompatti wrote:Was Llama a civ like a predicted?

We don't know. He was NK'd.

Ricochet wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Was Llama a civ like a predicted?

We don't know. He was NK'd.

Then I can only assume I was correct.

Vompatti wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Was Llama a civ like a predicted?

We don't know. He was NK'd.

Then I can only assume I was correct.

You could assume you're incorrect.

Dom wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Was Llama a civ like a predicted?

We don't know. He was NK'd.

Then I can only assume I was correct.

You could assume you're incorrect.

But I won't because I have great trust in my knowledge and intuition.

Vompatti wrote:

Dom wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Was Llama a civ like a predicted?

We don't know. He was NK'd.

Then I can only assume I was correct.

You could assume you're incorrect.

But I won't because I have great trust in my knowledge and intuition.

Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?

Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?

If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.

Dom wrote:I would like to vote Selma, but the Academy.

a-freakin-men

Vompatti wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?

If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.

Ouch. Careful, I have a severe copper allergy.

Canucklehead wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?

If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.

Ouch. Careful, I have a severe copper allergy.

Canucklehead wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?

If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.

Ouch. Careful, I have a severe copper allergy.

Well then it's a good thing American pennies are made of 97% zinc as of 1982.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?

If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.

Ouch. Careful, I have a severe copper allergy.

Well then it's a good thing American pennies are made of 97% zinc as of 1982.

And guess what the outside, the part that Ms. Canuckbleberry would touch is made of???

Dom wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Will you lend us your knowledge and intuition in catching the baddies?

If I had to toss a coin I'd mainly toss it at Roxy and Canucklehead.

Ouch. Careful, I have a severe copper allergy.

Well then it's a good thing American pennies are made of 97% zinc as of 1982.

And guess what the outside, the part that Ms. Canuckbleberry would touch is made of???

C O P P E R

Then let me take you back to 1943 where that won't be problem at all.

voted

Mongoose wrote:
"Someone's switched the prop blanks out for live rounds!" yelled A Person 2.0, in a rare display of outburst.

Blanks are still enough to cause serious harm or death at close range, silly canucklehead

RIP S~V~S

RIP SVS


Canuck, what say you?

Bass, do you have a specific team you think Rox might be on? Hacks, right? With MM?


I don't see Rox killing SVS like that.

Dom wrote:Bass, do you have a specific team you think Rox might be on? Hacks, right? With MM?


I don't see Rox killing SVS like that.

I not sure now. I was thinking hacks. I still think she is bad I mean she asked for a replacement and I don't think civvie roxy would do that I think she would have just rode it out.I think she was looking out for her team because she knew she wouldn't be able to be around.

Dom what are you thinking?

I'm thinking SVS might be right about Canuck.


I'd need some more convincing about Rox-- I don't see her killing SVS, but that's a WIFOM trap, plus she's been inactive lately.

Maybe, maybe not. MAybe Dom and Roxy are baddies together. RIP S~V~S.

I think I'll randomize my vote today.

Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!

Oscars.

Do I win a rezz?

thellama73 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!

Oscars.

Do I win a rezz?

Cheater. No rezz for you.

Dudes. I'm not bad. For realzies.

I think Rixy, or maybe LC, or maybemaybe old sabie/lizzy would be good for lynching today.

Mongoose wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!

Oscars.

Do I win a rezz?

Cheater. No rezz for you.

Since when is "knowing the answer" cheating?

I've been doing jeopardy wrong this whole time.

Canucklehead wrote:I think Rixy, or maybe LC, or maybemaybe old sabie/lizzy would be good for lynching today.

Why LC?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Rezz please

Me too, k?

thellama73 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!

Oscars.

Do I win a rezz?

Cheater. No rezz for you.

Since when is "knowing the answer" cheating?

I've been doing jeopardy wrong this whole time.

Technically, in Jeopardy you need to know the correct question

Dom wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:I think Rixy, or maybe LC, or maybemaybe old sabie/lizzy would be good for lynching today.

Why LC?

Why not?

Because I'm not bad, and several of you are.

Long Con wrote:Because I'm not bad, and several of you are.

I'm not bad, either, but the problem is I really don't know who is. I've been so wrong about everyone I suspected, that maybe it's time to start suspecting the people I've trusted. Maybe you? Mate Dom, who has done little but ask deflecting questions all game? Maybe the players who were replaced because their baddie teammates were desperate to drop the dead weight of no-shows? I dunno. I'm lost.


I know my head is on the chopping block today, but I'm a civ and ice played like a civ (i.e. blindly and without success) the entire game.

Canucklehead wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Everyone, guess what I'm doing right now? Guess! Guess!

Oscars.

Do I win a rezz?

Cheater. No rezz for you.

Since when is "knowing the answer" cheating?

I've been doing jeopardy wrong this whole time.

Technically, in Jeopardy you need to know the correct question

Not really though, because they never accept "what is written on the board under 'American History $100'" or similar as correct.

Baddies have been laying very low.

Ok, so Sabie had no real on-topic posts, and then was replaced by A Person, who has had basically one on-topic post, plus two more discussing how he doesn't know how the Uwe Boll lock works. His one post is "I had wanted to vote MM but the thread was locked I've felt he was fishy all game."

So that's a likely place to put my vote.

Lizzy had a handful of on-topics, casting some suspicion at Llama, and voting Metalmarsh with no real reasons stated. Made has been much more active, with some real analytical posts on DFaraday.

Made, why did you look at the votes on Days 5 and 6, and call out S~V~S and Roxy, but not Ricochet or Canuck?

R.I.P. SVS.

Catching up a bit:

Made wrote:

Mongoose wrote:And now a word from Fritz Lang:

Reading back it is obvious to me now that few of the civilian lynches so far have been accidents. There is a malicious group of individuals functioning behind the scenes controlling and manipulating the votes, and when you examine the pattern there is little to no doubt as to who they are. Pay particular attention to what happened on days 5 and 6 and the night between and you shall discover the truth.

._. rip
Alright so (based on votes anyways) Fritz thinks it SVS and Roxy. Thoughts?

Can you elaborate on how you read Lang's note, please?

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Not sure how I feel yet about a dormant baddie Roxy. The dormant baddie issue itself is thorny, because we've just had three players being replaced, and I don't want to rush and simply contrast Roxy's absence as more intentional, especially given her RL issues. I stopped having a read on her ever since the Vomps debacle made her look better (D4, I think) and then she caught up with a healthy input, but nothing more. I rather think the actives have been active and scheming all along and still are. The only potential dormant baddie I started to suspect was Spacedaisy, but she got then replaced with Made, who is now back to his active self. Vomps seems to have gone back to his usual self too and AP voted DF the other day without reasoning, which is something I can't even correlate, since we lynched him the first time before he could vote for anyone (his D1 self vote notwithstanding, that is).

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Dom wrote:Bass, do you have a specific team you think Rox might be on? Hacks, right? With MM?

I don't see Rox killing SVS like that.

I not sure now. I was thinking hacks. I still think she is bad I mean she asked for a replacement and I don't think civvie roxy would do that I think she would have just rode it out.I think she was looking out for her team because she knew she wouldn't be able to be around.

As far as I remember, her first ask for a replacement was because she wanted time off altogether after a bad GoC feud or something. Her second ask came amidst RL issues. While I am aware those RL issues affected you as well, I'm not quite convinced she would do it on purpose.

BTW, Bass, don't know if you noticed my question earlier, but

Ricochet wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Dom wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Dom who are you thinking about voting?

MetalMarsh, and you?

MeatalMarsh I would also be with Roxy and Rico in that order.

Bass, you are very consistent in naming your suspects, but not so much in reasoning for it. MM aside, I read back your posts and noticed just one instance of saying something about why you think Roxy and I are, on our own, suspicious. In my case, it's the ever-recurrent underestimating of my playing abilities in this game ("ooh he can't possibly have adapted this way / played this good without btsc"). So, would you please elaborate?
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So overall I think we now have two active (i.e. unresolved) WIFOMs based on NKs: SVS's and Llama's. The first one is easy: either Canuck is a Hack and together with her remaining teammate made an obvious kill, either the Hacks have took advantage of creating a WIFOM.
Regarding the second, I'd like to quote back my view of how Llama's NK can be interpreted, now updated after DF's flip:

Ricochet wrote:
L0 - LC is a Bro and killed (with his team, I mean) Llama to silence him
L1 - LC is not a Bro (i.e. Hack or civ), but the Bros seized the moment and killed Llama to make it look like LC is involved
L2 - LC was not involved in any way with Llama's kill, but DF is trying to push for it
L3 - LC is trying to frame DF as pushing it

and the Inception-like Level 4 of subtleness would be that the baddies are a completely different faction and they're trying to frame the both of them in some way for this.

So either LC framed DF and actually did make with his team an obvious Kill, or the Bros are framing him, just like they framed DF.

All in all, I see that the baddies are very keen to create WIFOMs, these two being the second and third after FZ's NK. They (the baddies) might want us now to see it as a diversion instead of an obvious kill, given that we were completely wrong the first time. But maybe it would still be best stick to the simple explanation.

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LC, by the way, is looking bad to me. Back-seat-taking for days now, yet sturdy to lynch DF throughout the same period. His comments also add up, because some of them can be really red in a baddie light. For instance, his latest

Long Con wrote:Sorry DF, the baddies' trick worked like a charm on this sucker.

He shouted that DF is framing him and supported his lynch for two consecutive days, yet now he sees him as a "sucker" who was lynched because of "baddies' trick". What?

Plus throwing in Dom* into the pool suspects just now, without reasoning. Plus other comments, all the way back to when Llama called him on his potential "geez wizz, TH, what a fine case you made, totally subscribe" attitude towards lynching Made (...after which the Llama kill happened).

*not that I don't trust Dom, either, right now


That's about it, right now. All fragments free to snip.

Dunno why my post had Night 8 in the title, probably from starting it by quoting Made's take on Lang's post.

Turnip Head wrote:Also, Birdman is going to win the Oscar. The Academy loves movies about the industry.

Called it!