Harry Stephen Keeler [ENDGAME]

#2751

I think I might need to re-read Epig. That post of his that LC pulled looks really different to me now that we know the second will was a fake one.

#2752

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I think I might need to re-read Epig. That post of his that LC pulled looks really different to me now that we know the second will was a fake one.

You can fool yourself

#2753

S~V~S wrote:I had forgotten about that. I was hoping at the time that Epi would explain his train of thought better when able to talk again. At one point, he said "creative Host (- the vowels). How would he know that? What would even lead him to speculate down that path? Of all the random things that a story could be, that it was an in thread role check?

I need to do some rereading.

Hold on, hold on
Wait, maybe the answer's looking for you
Hold on, hold on
Wait, take your time think it through
Yes, I can make it through

#2754

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Pgnss thnks Glrck trgtd smn t gv hs wll t. Th prsn h trgtd ws th Blnd Bst, Crl vn Trsslr.

*rl chck*

f Pgnss s rght, ppl shld lk fr sddn cs md gnst smn.
Epignosis thinks Gilrick targeted someone to give his will to. The person he targeted was the Blond Beast, Carl Von Tressler.

*role check*

If Epignosis is right, people should look for a sudden case made against someone.

So Epig, what was up with this post? Now that we know the will was a fake by the baddies... I don't knwo, something about using the Smiley there seems to imply that you know something. Maybe that's not the way everyone reads it, but that's the way I read it.

What your post here did was give everyone another option to consider that was very different from the first conclusion: that the Will was faked to give Zomba credit after S~V~S was killed. I'm sure it's nothing, but it really seems to me like you were trying to save Zomba, in a way.

And there you are
Making it up that you're sure that it is a star
When all you see
Is an illusion shining down in front of me

#2755

There are too many posting curses in this game. Blech.

#2756

Rest in peace DP. I am sorry to lose you and also genuinely confused as to why you were targeted.

Hey MM, do you believe me now that I've got your bottle?

#2757

Turnip Head wrote:Rest in peace DP. I am sorry to lose you and also genuinely confused as to why you were targeted.

Hey MM, do you believe me now that I've got your bottle?

Like the time I ran away
Turned around and you were standing close to me

#2758

Yes it is just like that time Epi.

Why do you think you keep getting hit with posting curses? Who's trying to shut you up?

#2759

Epignosis wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Rest in peace DP. I am sorry to lose you and also genuinely confused as to why you were targeted.

Hey MM, do you believe me now that I've got your bottle?
Like the time I ran away
Turned around and you were standing close to me

Wish the sun to stand still
Reaching out to touch our own being
Past a mortal as we, here we can be

#2760

If some of them aren't being faked. Although apparently that bottle really gravitates toward Epi. I'd like to sign up for Piffington Wainwright's class. Will there be a course on the differences/similarities of trade and transfer?

#2761

Turnip Head wrote:Rest in peace DP. I am sorry to lose you and also genuinely confused as to why you were targeted.

Hey MM, do you believe me now that I've got your bottle?

Yes I do.

Do you believe me now as to what the bottle does?

#2762

Yes I do, and I apologize for not believing you earlier.

#2763

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Rest in peace DP. I am sorry to lose you and also genuinely confused as to why you were targeted.

Hey MM, do you believe me now that I've got your bottle?
Like the time I ran away
Turned around and you were standing close to me
Wish the sun to stand still
Reaching out to touch our own being
Past a mortal as we, here we can be

Workings of man
Set to ply out historical life
Regaining the flower of the fruit of his tree
All awakening all restoring you

#2764

I'll take Yes over Kanye.

#2765

Turnip Head wrote:Yes it is just like that time Epi.

Why do you think you keep getting hit with posting curses?

I am a camera.
Camera camera.

Turnip Head wrote:Who's trying to shut you up?

Listen, your friends have been broken

#2766

LizKeen wrote:If some of them aren't being faked. Although apparently that bottle really gravitates toward Epi. I'd like to sign up for Piffington Wainwright's class. Will there be a course on the differences/similarities of trade and transfer?

Life is full of mysteries. That's what makes it worth living.

#2767

TH-- have you done some reflecting?

TBH I'm at a loss because I thought that DP was pretty bad. :/

#2768

TH, yesterday, you discussed my thoughts on Zomba and their evolution through the game-- why did you ignore what I said about her on Day 1?

#2769

Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I had forgotten about that. I was hoping at the time that Epi would explain his train of thought better when able to talk again. At one point, he said "creative Host (- the vowels). How would he know that? What would even lead him to speculate down that path? Of all the random things that a story could be, that it was an in thread role check?

I need to do some rereading.
Hold on, hold on
Wait, maybe the answer's looking for you
Hold on, hold on
Wait, take your time think it through
Yes, I can make it through

When I ask a question, I am looking for an answer in real time, that reflects someones current state of mind. That is why it annoys the living hell out of me when I ask a question, and get a response like, "Go look for it. I already answered this", or "I am not gonna look up posts for you". Yeah i know this was already answered. I saw it. I seek to compare answers and saying things like, go look for it makes me more suspicious of a person. It seems like evasion.

Now I know you cannot answer this, so I am not faulting you for that. That was a general statement, although were you not cursed, I imagine I might have gotten a similar answer to the one I did get. I am trying to decide why *I* think you keep getting targeted with these things. You have not been silenced, or killed. Just insanified. So is someone protecting you, or is someone shutting you up? It feels more like protecting you to me; this Mafia has a silence and they are not afraid to use it. So I have to ask who is protecting you? Civvies (I am guessing the Reptile gal is at least one of the roles insanifying people, and a good job she is doing, these are some fun curses!) or baddies?

That is the question I have to answer. Becasue it seems that every time people stop talking about the sudden lynch flavor du jour, and start talking about you again, you pop up with an affliction. TBH, I can make a case for it being either party. suspect?

Also at Liz Keen, who do you suspect right now? Just curious as you and I seldom seem to be on the same page.

#2770

LOL, sorry about that loose "suspect?" there, that was an artifact of an apparently bad edit. It should have been a whole question, but I guess the meaning is clear

#2771

I haven't felt good about Epi since I made that initial post about him. And tying up the vote between vompatti and zomberella didn't help.

#2772

S~V~S wrote:I am trying to decide why *I* think you keep getting targeted with these things.

Stake a Lizard by the throat.

#2773

LizKeen wrote:I haven't felt good about Epi since I made that initial post about him. And tying up the vote between vompatti and zomberella didn't help.

LizKeen wrote:At this point it just appears I've made myself an easy lynch target and that sucks. If that succeeds and you all have to start saying my bad I would be taking a long look at Epignosis, Juliet's Coffee and Elohcin, TH and Vomp.

LizKeen wrote:And Epi being insanified I would guess is a ploy to make me look bad. Possibly cooked up by him and his teammates.

Show me the strength of your
Singular eye.

#2774

I think we should lynch Epignosis today, regardless of curses. I actually feel a bit better about Dom after DP was NK'd. This will require some rereading though.

We now have three confirmed civs who want(ed) Epignosis lynched: blindfaeth, MM 1.0, and the poet.

#2775

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think we should lynch Epignosis today, regardless of curses. I actually feel a bit better about Dom after DP was NK'd. This will require some rereading though.

We now have three confirmed civs who want(ed) Epignosis lynched: blindfaeth, MM 1.0, and the poet.

MM does someone being a confirmed civvie make them know what he baddies are?

I'm not sure where I stand on Epi, but I am not sure that argument holds.

#2776

Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think we should lynch Epignosis today, regardless of curses. I actually feel a bit better about Dom after DP was NK'd. This will require some rereading though.

We now have three confirmed civs who want(ed) Epignosis lynched: blindfaeth, MM 1.0, and the poet.
MM does someone being a confirmed civvie make them know what he baddies are?

I'm not sure where I stand on Epi, but I am not sure that argument holds.

Yes it does actually.

#2777

MM I know Epi has been talked about here and there but what convinces you, to the point that you don't care what his side of the story is, that he is bad?

#2778

Dom, juliets, who are your top lynch prospects for today?

#2779

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think we should lynch Epignosis today, regardless of curses. I actually feel a bit better about Dom after DP was NK'd. This will require some rereading though.

We now have three confirmed civs who want(ed) Epignosis lynched: blindfaeth, MM 1.0, and the poet.
MM does someone being a confirmed civvie make them know what he baddies are?

I'm not sure where I stand on Epi, but I am not sure that argument holds.
Yes it does actually.

No it really doesn't.

#2780

S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think we should lynch Epignosis today, regardless of curses. I actually feel a bit better about Dom after DP was NK'd. This will require some rereading though.

We now have three confirmed civs who want(ed) Epignosis lynched: blindfaeth, MM 1.0, and the poet.
MM does someone being a confirmed civvie make them know what he baddies are?

I'm not sure where I stand on Epi, but I am not sure that argument holds.
Yes it does actually.
No it really doesn't.

In your opinion.

#2781

I have to do some back reading today before I can answer your question LC. Who is standing out for you beyond Epi?

#2782

would you believe me if i told you at least five (5) of his books have been translated into finnish butt the library doesn't have any of them .qm.

#2783

juliets wrote:I have to do some back reading today before I can answer your question LC. Who is standing out for you beyond Epi?

I'm a bit suspicious of Turnip Head - I was thinking that if he has the Bottle, and the Bottle was in Epig's safe... there's not that many ways he could have gotten it. I don't think he's the Safe Cracker... so maybe he killed the Safe Cracker for it?

#2784

rabbit8 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think we should lynch Epignosis today, regardless of curses. I actually feel a bit better about Dom after DP was NK'd. This will require some rereading though.

We now have three confirmed civs who want(ed) Epignosis lynched: blindfaeth, MM 1.0, and the poet.
MM does someone being a confirmed civvie make them know what he baddies are?

I'm not sure where I stand on Epi, but I am not sure that argument holds.
Yes it does actually.
No it really doesn't.

In your opinion.

Astute observation, Buns.

#2785

Long Con wrote:
juliets wrote:I have to do some back reading today before I can answer your question LC. Who is standing out for you beyond Epi?
I'm a bit suspicious of Turnip Head - I was thinking that if he has the Bottle, and the Bottle was in Epig's safe... there's not that many ways he could have gotten it. I don't think he's the Safe Cracker... so maybe he killed the Safe Cracker for it?

For a variety of reasons, I don't think DP or Golden was the safe cracker.

#2786

S~V~S wrote:
Long Con wrote:
juliets wrote:I have to do some back reading today before I can answer your question LC. Who is standing out for you beyond Epi?
I'm a bit suspicious of Turnip Head - I was thinking that if he has the Bottle, and the Bottle was in Epig's safe... there's not that many ways he could have gotten it. I don't think he's the Safe Cracker... so maybe he killed the Safe Cracker for it?
For a variety of reasons, I don't think DP or Golden was the safe cracker.

Well, we all have different opinions.

#2787

Well, the reason DP had the charm would be clear IMO based on a theory YOU proposed about why someone would steal that object from BR night one.

I happen to think that theory makes sense. And Golden was already dead iirc by then.

#2788

S~V~S wrote:Well, the reason DP had the charm would be clear IMO based on a theory YOU proposed about why someone would steal that object from BR night one.

I happen to think that theory makes sense. And Golden was already dead iirc by then.

You think DP is a civvie or indy?

#2789

rabbit8 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Well, the reason DP had the charm would be clear IMO based on a theory YOU proposed about why someone would steal that object from BR night one.

I happen to think that theory makes sense. And Golden was already dead iirc by then.

You think DP is a civvie or indy?

Well, the post said he was NKed by Van Tresser, aka the BBB. So yeah, I think he was civ or Indy.

My guess would be Indy since he had BRs charm, and that theory about why someone would want that item, makes total sense to me. IIRC LC posited on Day One that that charm could be one of the treasures of the orient. Plus there was a fairly spirited defense of him, considering that he is an infamous low poster who had said very little, tbh.

Both circumstantial, but it fits to me

#2790

Dom wrote:TH, yesterday, you discussed my thoughts on Zomba and their evolution through the game-- why did you ignore what I said about her on Day 1?

All I really did yesterday was compare your early vote for Zomba with your early vote for DP. I didn't go through the evolution of your thoughts on Zomba, but since you brought it up, I have now done so. And you have remained incredibly consistent. I find most of your posts about Zomba to be matter of fact, flat in tone and delivery. "We should lynch Zomba", "Zomba is bad", while when you're discussing other topics, you take on a more conversational tone with a degree of uncertainty. I don't know exactly what to make of this, but one explanation is that you are Zomba's teammate and you threw her under the bus after her bad reaction to BF's post, and you never looked back. I do think it's interesting that you made no mention of Zomba on Day 2 when Epi and I came out with a case against MM. You went along with the MM case and didn't mention Zomba's name at all. Then on Day 3 you went right back to suspecting Zomba.

But okay Dom, you thought DP was bad. He likely wasn't. Now where do you look? Was the DP case really the only thing you had?

Long Con wrote:
juliets wrote:I have to do some back reading today before I can answer your question LC. Who is standing out for you beyond Epi?
I'm a bit suspicious of Turnip Head - I was thinking that if he has the Bottle, and the Bottle was in Epig's safe... there's not that many ways he could have gotten it. I don't think he's the Safe Cracker... so maybe he killed the Safe Cracker for it?

Really now, is that what you think?

#2791

^^Watch out this guys a ringer.....

#2792

what's a ringer

#2793

Turnip Head wrote:what's a ringer

Just a joke on you being nominated to represent!!!

Ringer used as slang here, like Pool Shark etc....

#2794

Gotcha. :P

#2795

Vompatti wrote:would you believe me if i told you at least five (5) of his books have been translated into finnish butt the library doesn't have any of them .qm.

The only one of those I've read is Vaalea Peto, but honestly it's not one of his more interesting ones.

#2796

It should probably come as no surprise that I'm *voting Epig*.

#2797

juliets wrote:MM I know Epi has been talked about here and there but what convinces you, to the point that you don't care what his side of the story is, that he is bad?

I don't have a complete answer to this question, but I will try to give one to you when I can.

#2798

Long Con wrote:It should probably come as no surprise that I'm *voting Epig*.

You didn't though.

#2799

No, but fingersplints did. She must be silenced.

#2800

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
juliets wrote:MM I know Epi has been talked about here and there but what convinces you, to the point that you don't care what his side of the story is, that he is bad?
I don't have a complete answer to this question, but I will try to give one to you when I can.

Ok, I understand. I hope you can give me something before voting is closed.

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