The Syndicate

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

My beef is the same as yours.

Medium rare?

Meh, ok. vote Quin

Why?

Same as you.

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote: Basically. I put those reads in as I thought of them, and after the fact realized I forgot about 4 more peeps. I can't really remember Quin's content this game, hence the scum read.

What's your beef with him?

My beef is the same as yours.

Medium rare?

Meh, ok. vote Quin

Why?

Same as you.

I mean you seemed to trust me enough there to follow along in a vote that you've got no substantial reason to believe in, despite claiming to believe in it. You've also got no substantial reason to trust me, just a minute ago you were complaining that I haven't been active enough, and now I'm here and I'm throwing this bullshit in your face, so why are you listening to me?

Scotty wrote:Can someone else comment on my interaction with Sloonei? Am I missing something here? I'm getting the heebeejeebies right now

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:Can someone else comment on my interaction with Sloonei? Am I missing something here? I'm getting the heebeejeebies right now

I'm not sure what you'd be missing. You both seem to suspect Quin, which I don't really agree or disagree with. He's had less significant a presence in this game than usual which I suppose isn't ideal. I'm not sure why Sloonei associated you two as team mates, so he could talk about that. Hey! Sloonei!

Quin wrote:

Beck wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hey Beck, I hereby accuse you of using (trying to use) a fake random vote as a means of comfortably getting your feet into the scary cold water that is this game. I've done it before. What say you?

I say nay!

I voted for MP7 for one post in particular -- would be curios to see if you see what I see.

But let's say I did vote for MP7 to ease myself into the game, what does that make me?

(There's a right answer and a wrong answer, Jimmy.)

I'm looking at all of his four posts pretty intently, but I'm not seeing anything at all. The very most I can come up with is his 'I'll post more strategies later' thing and I'm pretty sure that's a political joke.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everyone else: I don't expect you to read our text walls. Once we've had our chat and I am satisfied with whatever conclusion I come to I'll summarize it.

My suspicion of you has grown, sir. Why wouldn't you expect people to read what you've posted and form their own opinions and instead rely on your summary?

I agree with this. But at the same time, what JJJ said about 'being satisfied with the conclusion' makes me feel good. It tells me he's not just trying to shake off the attention.

Scotty wrote:Sloonei, if you could vote anywhere else, where would it be? Since you have such little reason to be voting for Quin (I assume) as I do.

Sloonei wrote:The truth is I felt like your post of reads was one of those "substance for the sake of substance" posts, and your read on Quin came off to me as very forced and completely meaningless. So I decided to throw an accusation out there and goad you into acting on your "suspicion" of Quin, which you've done even though you have no reason to distrust Quin or trust me. How bogus is this?

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:The truth is I felt like your post of reads was one of those "substance for the sake of substance" posts, and your read on Quin came off to me as very forced and completely meaningless. So I decided to throw an accusation out there and goad you into acting on your "suspicion" of Quin, which you've done even though you have no reason to distrust Quin or trust me. How bogus is this?

What made you pick me and Quin as teammates out of all my reads?

I'm not liking this conscious effort to manipulate me, Sloonster. I'm sorry you don't like my reads. It's something new I'm trying.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd like to hear what you guys think of leetic's accusation of me. It looks to me like he just pulled it out of his arse, but I'm the target so bias and stuff.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think I like Scotty's attempt to get reads, even when he is uncertain of how to go about it. He's trying to expand his Day 1 repertoire and it appears mostly genuine to me. I also don't get the wrong vibes from Sloonei's interrogation tactic. He observed a specific thing (Scotty's read of Quin) that he found interested, and then harnessed that into a an exchange that stands a chance of producing a more complete read.

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think I like Scotty's attempt to get reads, even when he is uncertain of how to go about it. He's trying to expand his Day 1 repertoire and it appears mostly genuine to me. I also don't get the wrong vibes from Sloonei's interrogation tactic. He observed a specific thing (Scotty's read of Quin) that he found interested, and then harnessed that into a an exchange that stands a chance of producing a more complete read.

Sloonei came in saying he read Quin as bad "same as me" but then quoted examples after the fact, as if he stole cookies from the cookie jar and then replaced them with some pieces of cardboard he found in the garage so no one would know he ate the cookies preemptively.

What is your opinion of Quin, JJJ?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'd like to hear what you guys think of leetic's accusation of me. It looks to me like he just pulled it out of his arse, but I'm the target so bias and stuff.

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think I like Scotty's attempt to get reads, even when he is uncertain of how to go about it. He's trying to expand his Day 1 repertoire and it appears mostly genuine to me. I also don't get the wrong vibes from Sloonei's interrogation tactic. He observed a specific thing (Scotty's read of Quin) that he found interested, and then harnessed that into a an exchange that stands a chance of producing a more complete read.

Sloonei came in saying he read Quin as bad "same as me" but then quoted examples after the fact, as if he stole cookies from the cookie jar and then replaced them with some pieces of cardboard he found in the garage so no one would know he ate the cookies preemptively.

What is your opinion of Quin, JJJ?

I do not get this analogy. Also you never said a word about why you might suspect Quin, just that you did. Why should it be a mark against me that I am able to substantiate this read we supposedly share?

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think I like Scotty's attempt to get reads, even when he is uncertain of how to go about it. He's trying to expand his Day 1 repertoire and it appears mostly genuine to me. I also don't get the wrong vibes from Sloonei's interrogation tactic. He observed a specific thing (Scotty's read of Quin) that he found interested, and then harnessed that into a an exchange that stands a chance of producing a more complete read.

Sloonei came in saying he read Quin as bad "same as me" but then quoted examples after the fact, as if he stole cookies from the cookie jar and then replaced them with some pieces of cardboard he found in the garage so no one would know he ate the cookies preemptively.

What is your opinion of Quin, JJJ?

I do not get this analogy. Also you never said a word about why you might suspect Quin, just that you did. Why should it be a mark against me that I am able to substantiate this read we supposedly share?

By answering with "same as you" you are affirming that I am reading him bad because 'I can't remember what he said'. But then you come in backing it up after the fact, like you had a reason initially, you just lied about it.
It's Like me saying now that I'm suspicious of Quin because he killed my cat...I just chose not to mention that in my initial read.

Scotty wrote:What is your opinion of Quin, JJJ?

Scotty wrote:Hey Sloonei, want to vote Bass the Clever with me?

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:Hey Sloonei, want to vote Bass the Clever with me?

I do not. Why are you voting for him?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:If I've suspected you every game, good or bad, why did you suggest I'm forcing myself to suspect you?

The accusation you rendered bears that appearance. It was a negative assessment of my posts supported by no references to anything -- bad adjectives in a vacuum. If I don't know why you feel that way, I have ask myself whether you really suspect me or you're trying to suspect me.

I'm not sure yet whether "you suspect me every game good or bad" is accurate. The "bad" example was The Office, but you didn't speak ill of me until I was dead and I couldn't say anything. If you're bad now, I think this'd be the first example of you actually addressing me directly with fake suspicion. The scenario being imagined is that your tendency to suspect me when you're good has become frequent enough that it could be associated with your good self -- thus generating a reason to assume that posture when you're bad.

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:Hey Sloonei, want to vote Bass the Clever with me?

I do not. Why are you voting for him?

Lol

Yeah, I'm fine changing my vote from Quin based on this back and forth with Sloonei just in case I'm being bamboozled. Quin is one of 5 people I could vote for for almost interchangeable lack of content reasons. Let's move on to the one that JJJ has brought up better reasons for.

leetic

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You're leaving out what else I said about you.

I don't see the relevance of the other post you've restated here.

It's relevant because I'm trying not to do what I did the last time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Can you name which games?

Off-hand I can name five: Trees (both town), Battlestar Galactica (both town), Triskaidekaphobia (both town), and The Office (you bad, me independent), Economics (both town). Whether you suspected me in Bullets Over Broadway (you independent, me town) is debatable.

You didn't suspect me to my memory in Talking Heads or the 2015 GOC. I think that's all the games we've played in together.

If I've suspected you every game, good or bad, why did you suggest I'm forcing myself to suspect you?

The law of averages tells me that you're bad this time and I'm right.

What did you do last time?

Will you vote anyone to save yourself today?

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You're leaving out what else I said about you.

I don't see the relevance of the other post you've restated here.

It's relevant because I'm trying not to do what I did the last time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Can you name which games?

Off-hand I can name five: Trees (both town), Battlestar Galactica (both town), Triskaidekaphobia (both town), and The Office (you bad, me independent), Economics (both town). Whether you suspected me in Bullets Over Broadway (you independent, me town) is debatable.

You didn't suspect me to my memory in Talking Heads or the 2015 GOC. I think that's all the games we've played in together.

If I've suspected you every game, good or bad, why did you suggest I'm forcing myself to suspect you?

The law of averages tells me that you're bad this time and I'm right.

What did you do last time?

Will you vote anyone to save yourself today?

Is that your way of answering my question?

Scotty wrote:OH! I thought the day was over. Silly Scotty.

Sorry if my post caused you any confusion. As a host, I've been known to add mid-phase posts for the sake of the overarching narrative.

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Scotty wrote:Hey Sloonei, want to vote Bass the Clever with me?

I do not. Why are you voting for him?

Lol

Yeah, I'm fine changing my vote from Quin based on this back and forth with Sloonei just in case I'm being bamboozled. Quin is one of 5 people I could vote for for almost interchangeable lack of content reasons. Let's move on to the one that JJJ has brought up better reasons for.

leetic

Was there any reason to vote Bass, or were you just throwing a name out there to see how I would respond?

leetic wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everyone else: I don't expect you to read our text walls. Once we've had our chat and I am satisfied with whatever conclusion I come to I'll summarize it.

My suspicion of you has grown, sir. Why wouldn't you expect people to read what you've posted and form their own opinions and instead rely on your summary?

Why would we go to the trouble of researching something and forming our own opinions when we can get a nice tidy, completely unbiased five word long summary from FOX News or Breitbart that tells us how to feel about things?

You've given us very little so far other than to criticize the play of someone you have declared a town read for.

If you think my methods are unhelpful, then take a look in the freaking mirror dude. This is useless.

The latter part is CWAC (which stands for Contributing Without Actually Contributing btw). You're saying you won't do something, but not why. Others being unhelpful is no excuse to have said behavior.

insertnamehere wrote:So this is the post that has Leetic tied for first? Come on, attempting to defend me and attacking JJJ's gameplay without really throwing any legit shade on him does not a baddie make.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everyone else: I don't expect you to read our text walls. Once we've had our chat and I am satisfied with whatever conclusion I come to I'll summarize it.

My suspicion of you has grown, sir. Why wouldn't you expect people to read what you've posted and form their own opinions and instead rely on your summary?

I agree with this. But at the same time, what JJJ said about 'being satisfied with the conclusion' makes me feel good. It tells me he's not just trying to shake off the attention.

I'm uncertain what you mean by this Quin. Could you expand on how yellow leads you to orange?

Sloonei wrote:The truth is I felt like your post of reads was one of those "substance for the sake of substance" posts, and your read on Quin came off to me as very forced and completely meaningless. So I decided to throw an accusation out there and goad you into acting on your "suspicion" of Quin, which you've done even though you have no reason to distrust Quin or trust me. How bogus is this?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:Can someone else comment on my interaction with Sloonei? Am I missing something here? I'm getting the heebeejeebies right now

I'm not sure what you'd be missing. You both seem to suspect Quin, which I don't really agree or disagree with. He's had less significant a presence in this game than usual which I suppose isn't ideal. I'm not sure why Sloonei associated you two as team mates, so he could talk about that. Hey! Sloonei!

insertnamehere wrote:I side more with Epi and Rico than JJJ and Scotty, although I do agree with No True Scotsman that Sloonei has been pushing Quin a wee bit too hard for my liking.

Quin wrote:

Sloonei wrote:The truth is I felt like your post of reads was one of those "substance for the sake of substance" posts, and your read on Quin came off to me as very forced and completely meaningless. So I decided to throw an accusation out there and goad you into acting on your "suspicion" of Quin, which you've done even though you have no reason to distrust Quin or trust me. How bogus is this?

All I'm getting from this is that a significant part of why you are currently voting for me is because of Scotty's actions, and that is not ideal.

vote Sloonei

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

Beck wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hey Beck, I hereby accuse you of using (trying to use) a fake random vote as a means of comfortably getting your feet into the scary cold water that is this game. I've done it before. What say you?

I say nay!

I voted for MP7 for one post in particular -- would be curios to see if you see what I see.

But let's say I did vote for MP7 to ease myself into the game, what does that make me?

(There's a right answer and a wrong answer, Jimmy.)

I'm looking at all of his four posts pretty intently, but I'm not seeing anything at all. The very most I can come up with is his 'I'll post more strategies later' thing and I'm pretty sure that's a political joke.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everyone else: I don't expect you to read our text walls. Once we've had our chat and I am satisfied with whatever conclusion I come to I'll summarize it.

My suspicion of you has grown, sir. Why wouldn't you expect people to read what you've posted and form their own opinions and instead rely on your summary?

I agree with this. But at the same time, what JJJ said about 'being satisfied with the conclusion' makes me feel good. It tells me he's not just trying to shake off the attention.

I didn't really like these two posts from Quin, for the record. In the top one he makes sure to keep his distance from actually accusing MP of anything, but leaves the door open a crack, and in the second one he manages to take both sides of a case against Jay in consecutive sentences.

Scotty wrote:I gotta be horny, brothas and sistas. I skimmed right through those wallposts of semantics bw Rico and JJJ. I think I got the gist, but I just don't care really. It's like a couple of sea lions fighting over a rock. It's a rock- there are other rocks.

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Epi? He's Epi. I don't see anything out of the ordinary with Epi. Yet. Why does he have 2 votes?

MM- wow this guy I actually read...as good this game. I don't know what it is honestly. He's not as zany, he's more direct in his accusations. It's just atypical Mm day 1 behavior, and I'm liking it I think. Not that I don't like silly Mm behavior, but that I also like this guy as well. Enough so that I'm not gonn vote him today.

You don't know why I have two votes. MM is one of those votes, and you say he was direct in his accusations. Can you explain why MM voted for me?

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Epi? He's Epi. I don't see anything out of the ordinary with Epi. Yet. Why does he have 2 votes?

MM- wow this guy I actually read...as good this game. I don't know what it is honestly. He's not as zany, he's more direct in his accusations. It's just atypical Mm day 1 behavior, and I'm liking it I think. Not that I don't like silly Mm behavior, but that I also like this guy as well. Enough so that I'm not gonn vote him today.

You don't know why I have two votes. MM is one of those votes, and you say he was direct in his accusations. Can you explain why MM voted for me?

Well, not with reasons, no. But one of his first posts in the game:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:My first impressions.

Jay, Beck, MP are civilians.

Epignosis and Ricochet are mafia.

Inform me with his actions. I don't really know why he viewed you and Rick as bad, but he did, which i am thinking is more town-like than not.

Epignosis wrote:The law of averages tells me that you're bad this time and I'm right.

Scotty wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Scotty and Quin are scum partners.

Woah, I TOTALLY missed this.

Wtf?

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I voted for Epignosis.

I'm voting you for missing the draft.

Quin wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

Beck wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hey Beck, I hereby accuse you of using (trying to use) a fake random vote as a means of comfortably getting your feet into the scary cold water that is this game. I've done it before. What say you?

I say nay!

I voted for MP7 for one post in particular -- would be curios to see if you see what I see.

But let's say I did vote for MP7 to ease myself into the game, what does that make me?

(There's a right answer and a wrong answer, Jimmy.)

I'm looking at all of his four posts pretty intently, but I'm not seeing anything at all. The very most I can come up with is his 'I'll post more strategies later' thing and I'm pretty sure that's a political joke.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everyone else: I don't expect you to read our text walls. Once we've had our chat and I am satisfied with whatever conclusion I come to I'll summarize it.

My suspicion of you has grown, sir. Why wouldn't you expect people to read what you've posted and form their own opinions and instead rely on your summary?

I agree with this. But at the same time, what JJJ said about 'being satisfied with the conclusion' makes me feel good. It tells me he's not just trying to shake off the attention.

I didn't really like these two posts from Quin, for the record. In the top one he makes sure to keep his distance from actually accusing MP of anything, but leaves the door open a crack, and in the second one he manages to take both sides of a case against Jay in consecutive sentences.

1. I didn't accuse MP of being suspicious because I don't think he's suspicious. There was no crack, either. Not sure where you're looking

2. Fair enough.

linki: My reason for the voting is right there. You're basing your vote on me off of Scotty, not me. That's bad.

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Quin wrote:

Beck wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hey Beck, I hereby accuse you of using (trying to use) a fake random vote as a means of comfortably getting your feet into the scary cold water that is this game. I've done it before. What say you?

I say nay!

I voted for MP7 for one post in particular -- would be curios to see if you see what I see.

But let's say I did vote for MP7 to ease myself into the game, what does that make me?

(There's a right answer and a wrong answer, Jimmy.)

I'm looking at all of his four posts pretty intently, but I'm not seeing anything at all. The very most I can come up with is his 'I'll post more strategies later' thing and I'm pretty sure that's a political joke.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everyone else: I don't expect you to read our text walls. Once we've had our chat and I am satisfied with whatever conclusion I come to I'll summarize it.

My suspicion of you has grown, sir. Why wouldn't you expect people to read what you've posted and form their own opinions and instead rely on your summary?

I agree with this. But at the same time, what JJJ said about 'being satisfied with the conclusion' makes me feel good. It tells me he's not just trying to shake off the attention.

I didn't really like these two posts from Quin, for the record. In the top one he makes sure to keep his distance from actually accusing MP of anything, but leaves the door open a crack, and in the second one he manages to take both sides of a case against Jay in consecutive sentences.

1. I didn't accuse MP of being suspicious because I don't think he's suspicious. There was no crack, either. Not sure where you're looking

2. Fair enough.

linki: My reason for the voting is right there. You're basing your vote on me off of Scotty, not me. That's bad.

I do not understand how that would make me bad if it was true.

Sloonei wrote:I do not understand how that would make me bad if it was true.